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Raive93
post Jan 13 2013, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Noysan @ Jan 13 2013, 05:07 PM)

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i see, then i thin the primer/surfacer with water or thinner?

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post Jan 13 2013, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(Raive93 @ Jan 13 2013, 05:28 PM)
i see, then i thin the primer/surfacer with water or thinner?
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thinner.. I never tried water so i don't know if can.
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post Jan 13 2013, 09:34 PM

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hi all, im new to painting with airbush, can share how you transfer paint to cup ?
My way:-
1- direct from paint bottle to airbrsh cup.. Not efficient since too much paint melt at side of the bottle, what a waste.
2- using plastic dropper, also i feel like wasting since there are many left over on the dropper wall..
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QUOTE(nfsu230190 @ Jan 13 2013, 09:34 PM)
hi all, im new to painting with airbush, can share how you transfer paint to cup ?
My way:-
1- direct from paint bottle to airbrsh cup.. Not efficient since too much paint melt at side of the bottle, what a waste.
2- using plastic dropper, also i feel like wasting since there are many left over on the dropper wall..
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just keep doing the transfer from bottle to cup, you'll eventually get the hang of it.
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post Jan 14 2013, 09:41 AM

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Raive93,
Go check this website out, most of your questions can be answered here and some even with Video
http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=1202

I do understand you are starting this new hobby and you are curious about all of it so was i when i began.
I was told before without even trying yet asking too many questions might not help you. You need to experience it first to understand.
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post Jan 14 2013, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:41 AM)
Raive93,
Go check this website out, most of your questions can be answered here and some even with Video
http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=1202

I do understand you are starting this new hobby and you are curious about all of it so was i when i began.
I was told before without even trying yet asking too many questions might not help you. You need to experience it first to understand.
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yes, thank you for the link, it got many useful information in it.
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post Jan 14 2013, 04:23 PM

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Hi,

I do search about the Mr masking sol neo, but ppl complaint it ruin the paint when u try to take it out. sO need to coat a clear gloss coat bfore apply the masking sol neo. bside this, got any other way like wash the masking sol neo with water, so only the masking sol neo dropoff instead of paint?? Acrylic & laque paint included.

planing to get mR masking sol neo as i tired of masking tape.

Thank.
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post Jan 14 2013, 04:35 PM

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OK. i try to use Glue as masking, as it is water based. can wash by water. LOL
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post Jan 14 2013, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 14 2013, 09:41 AM)
Raive93,
Go check this website out, most of your questions can be answered here and some even with Video
http://gamerabaenre.com/?page_id=1202

I do understand you are starting this new hobby and you are curious about all of it so was i when i began.
I was told before without even trying yet asking too many questions might not help you. You need to experience it first to understand.
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a few dummy question,

1. if i am using gaia notes paint(lacquer), then can i prime with gaia notes or mr. color's primer? Because lacquer is very bad on ABS right? then if the primer is lacquer based then will it harm the ABS too? or primer is special one?

2. I know the reason for painting gloss black before painting the metallic colour, but why need to paint a darker tone before painting the main coat? wont lighter colour harder to stick at darker colour?

3. and do you know that any other hobby shop around sabah kota kinabalu that sells tools & paints? I only know that there is one at star city but they sell limited paint(tamiya, gunze & gaia only)

thx
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post Jan 16 2013, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 14 2013, 04:23 PM)
Hi,

I do search about the Mr masking sol neo, but ppl complaint it ruin the paint when u try to take it out. sO need to coat a clear gloss coat bfore apply the masking sol neo. bside this, got any other way like wash the masking sol neo with water, so only the masking sol neo dropoff instead of paint?? Acrylic & laque paint included.

planing to get mR masking sol neo as i tired of masking tape.

Thank.
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The old masking sol sux but the new one is just nice. I've never heard of the masking sol ruining the paint unless the person did some wrong steps.
After using the masking sol and paint your kit, try not to leave it for one day, it may harden therefore ruining the paint(maybe). I have never apply clear coat(gloss) just for masking sol. Even other modellers that i know do not have this problem.
masking tape once it dries, use tweezer or tooth pick to slowly peel it out.


QUOTE(Raive93 @ Jan 14 2013, 05:03 PM)
a few dummy question,

1. if i am using gaia notes paint(lacquer), then can i prime with gaia notes or mr. color's primer? Because lacquer is very bad on ABS right? then if the primer is lacquer based then will it harm the ABS too? or primer is special one?

2. I know the reason for painting gloss black before painting the metallic colour, but why need to paint a darker tone before painting the main coat? wont lighter colour harder to stick at darker colour?

3. and do you know that any other hobby shop around sabah kota kinabalu that sells tools & paints? I only know that there is one at star city but they sell limited paint(tamiya, gunze & gaia only)

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1. Gaia and Mr color are lacquer base. Both can be mix. Both primers can be used. Lacquer does not harm ABS, as far as i know enamel does. Enamel will weaken it and make it brittle. Primer does not harm any parts of your kit.

2. i think this is for shading. Usually shading 1st layer is dark tone then only lighter tone to achieve the shading effect(AB only). If you use AB, lighter color can be covered over darker color if you spray it properly.

3. Try Agent man in pain(forgot the proper nickname). He is from sarawak or sabah(forgot) OR order online from Tkting
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:46 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 16 2013, 11:38 PM)
1. Gaia and Mr color are lacquer base. Both can be mix. Both primers can be used. Lacquer does not harm ABS, as far as i know enamel does. Enamel will weaken it and make it brittle. Primer does not harm any parts of your kit.
Ā   And there I thought I read an article somewhere that it is the thinner used for lacquer paint that harm the ABS? HERE

2. i think this is for shading. Usually shading 1st layer is dark tone then only lighter tone to achieve the shading effect(AB only). If you use AB, lighter color can be covered over darker color if you spray it properly.
Ā   So if I am planning to hand painting all then I shouldn't do the pre shading stuff?

3. Try Agent man in pain(forgot the proper nickname). He is from sarawak or sabah(forgot) OR order online from Tkting
Ā  Ā  He is from Sabah, I knew his store, I am asking just in case for he didnt sell that type of paints or etc
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post Jan 17 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Jan 16 2013, 11:38 PM)
The old masking sol sux but the new one is just nice. I've never heard of the masking sol ruining the paint unless the person did some wrong steps.

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r u refer to Masking sol NEO or Masking sol R??
wat the diference??

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post Jan 17 2013, 10:17 AM

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1. Gaia and Mr color are lacquer base. Both can be mix. Both primers can be used. Lacquer does not harm ABS, as far as i know enamel does. Enamel will weaken it and make it brittle. Primer does not harm any parts of your kit.
  And there I thought I read an article somewhere that it is the thinner used for lacquer paint that harm the ABS? HERE

2. i think this is for shading. Usually shading 1st layer is dark tone then only lighter tone to achieve the shading effect(AB only). If you use AB, lighter color can be covered over darker color if you spray it properly.
  So if I am planning to hand painting all then I shouldn't do the pre shading stuff?

3. Try Agent man in pain(forgot the proper nickname). He is from sarawak or sabah(forgot) OR order online from Tkting
    He is from Sabah, I knew his store, I am asking just in case for he didnt sell that type of paints or etc
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Raive93
1. If you read the comments, most of them didn't encounter the problem and everyone prime first. the guy who had the problem didn't prime.
2. pre shading cannot be achieve by hand painting but there's another method which is like light "weathering". Let's not get into that first. Master your fundamentals first.
3. In that case, order online. Save your trouble.

QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 17 2013, 09:30 AM)
r u refer to Masking sol NEO or Masking sol R??
wat the diference??
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i'm refering to sol R, sol Neo is the old formula.. both are the same, one is old formula, one is new.. sol R is a new formula and so much better to use.

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post Jan 17 2013, 10:39 AM

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OK Thank.

I buy 1 to try try first.
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post Jan 17 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Jan 14 2013, 04:23 PM)
Hi,

I do search about the Mr masking sol neo, but ppl complaint it ruin the paint when u try to take it out. sO need to coat a clear gloss coat bfore apply the masking sol neo. bside this, got any other way like wash the masking sol neo with water, so only the masking sol neo dropoff instead of paint?? Acrylic & laque paint included.
No, masking sol wont hurt your paint. Unless the paint applied wrongly n as a result being extremely weak or so. Even then, shouldnt blame on masking sol, anything would have spoil it.

For gunze, there r masking neo n R. Neo, is better u thin it with water first asĀ  it proof to be quite thick and adhesive power being very weak. Without thinning, it's very hard to do precision masking with it. Pro: very easy to peel off. Con: adhesive power very weak, hence cannot alter the shape by cutter after cured.

Masking sol R, is the opposite. thinner and strong adhesive power. pro: thin and can be cut by blade after cure. suitable for precision masking. Con: strong adhesive power, if u r the no-patience type, peeling off likely end up with scratching your paint.

Tips: do not leave masking sol on a spot too long before peeling. how long exactly? i dont know. my experience is 2+ weeks, n i realised the masking sol start melting again and created a whole lot mess


As u mention, u use glue. not sure which type of glue u use. but glue works like masking sol, just that those can be melted again normally do not have guarantee on 100% being water/paint proof. if u r using PVA glue (white glue) basically it is the same as masking sol but the negative point being enhanced: very strong adhesive power and kinda hard to achieve precision masking



planing to get mR masking sol neo as i tired of masking tape.
huhu, normally people will use both. The irregular shape that requires precision, masking sol. straight lines, masking tape.


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QUOTE(Raive93 @ Jan 14 2013, 05:03 PM)
a few dummy question,

1. if i am using gaia notes paint(lacquer), then can i prime with gaia notes or mr. color's primer? Because lacquer is very bad on ABS right? then if the primer is lacquer based then will it harm the ABS too? or primer is special one?
I ve read a few time u mentioned about lacquer being bad on ABS... Actually, as Z3r0717 said, not really. Yes, all thinner attacks all sort of plastic; even the soft PC plastic. But lacquer thinner's harm on abs is pretty minimal, unless u soak the whole part into strong thinner n leave it for days.

Maybe u ve mistake it over tuppertine or enamel thinner. That is the thinner that will give u almost instant (15~20 minutes) effect on PS and ABS



2. I know the reason for painting gloss black before painting the metallic colour, but why need to paint a darker tone before painting the main coat? wont lighter colour harder to stick at darker colour?
lighter color stick the same as any other colors on top of dark color.

As for the reason for black behind metallic, if u want, i can explain as i understand. this ll solve many of your other questions too about frosting, pearl color, coating, mixing, metalizer etc. i dont write coz i realized not many read them nor interested to understand it. lemme know if u keen.

So the standard internet answer for your question is: the black undercoat will make your metallic looks shinier.




3. and do you know that any other hobby shop around sabah kota kinabalu that sells tools & paints? I only know that there is one at star city but they sell limited paint(tamiya, gunze & gaia only)
If u keen, i can intro u to a group of sabahan modelers. not sure u already know them. Recently they just had an event in KK (i think in some comic fest or something). Or keep a close eye on the local hobby magazine, HobbiMax. I think it covers the event; n u might find some local modeling friends there. smile.gif



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This post has been edited by rayloke: Jan 17 2013, 11:28 AM
limfreelance
post Jan 17 2013, 11:37 AM

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Thank for the sharing tips.

appreaciated. smile.gif
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post Jan 17 2013, 02:56 PM

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Anyone has idea where can polishing or lapping tool around?

Thank you.
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QUOTE(dr.who1977 @ Jan 17 2013, 02:56 PM)
Anyone has idea where can polishing or lapping tool around?

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sorry, dont quite understand what u mean

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need help here, how to make own panel line like these rezel here? what tool they use?

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post Jan 23 2013, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(Naskah @ Jan 23 2013, 12:33 PM)
need help here, how to make own panel line like these rezel here? what tool they use?

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maybe this will be relevant to your questions. happy trying!

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