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General_Nic
post Oct 22 2012, 12:31 PM

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is using Mr. Surfacer enough, or need Mr. Primer Surfacer for priming purpose?
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post Oct 22 2012, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Oct 22 2012, 12:31 PM)
is using Mr. Surfacer enough, or need Mr. Primer Surfacer for priming purpose?
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Mr surfacer is actually enough for priming purpose just that Mr. Primer Surfacer is combination of Mr. Surfacer, Mr.Resin Primer and Mr.Metal Primer. Thus make this primer a multipurpose primer that you can use on any modelling material.



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post Oct 22 2012, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Khai62 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:29 PM)
You do need to mix with lacquer thinner (not sure if other type of thinner can) because out of the bottle the paint is quite rough. I usually mix about 1:2 ratio.
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post Oct 27 2012, 07:50 PM

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Just curios what kind of paint is good for hand painting, need some advice from sifu. I currently using lacquer paint but found it is not easy to apply which is when I apply 2nd layer it will remove the previous layer that I applied earlier... I think it is cause by leveling thinner or maybe my problem because I not familiar with hand painting sad.gif . Other than that I also don't like the glossy finish by lacquer paint
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post Oct 28 2012, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Oct 27 2012, 07:50 PM)
Just curios what kind of paint is good for hand painting, need some advice from sifu. I currently using lacquer paint but found it is not easy to apply which is when I apply 2nd layer it will remove the previous layer that I applied earlier... I think it is cause by leveling thinner or maybe my problem because I not familiar with hand painting  sad.gif . Other than that I also don't like the glossy finish by lacquer paint
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As for me i hand painted using both lacquer and acrylic and i find the latter is much more better for this since it don't feel thick but smooth on the brush but both need to be thinned properly about the consistency of mild milk as in not too watery and still feel thickness of the paint. As for painting by layer, you really need to wait for about a minute or 2 to dry before applying the next coat as the bigger the painted surface area the longer it will dry but lacquer tend to dry the fastest and you need to paint in one direction only to minimize brush strokes. As for the gloss it either get a flat topcoat and spray on your finish kit or get a flat coat in a bottle and apply it by brush after the paint have dried.
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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Oct 27 2012, 07:50 PM)
Just curios what kind of paint is good for hand painting, need some advice from sifu. I currently using lacquer paint but found it is not easy to apply which is when I apply 2nd layer it will remove the previous layer that I applied earlier... I think it is cause by leveling thinner or maybe my problem because I not familiar with hand painting  sad.gif . Other than that I also don't like the glossy finish by lacquer paint
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practice make prefect
i also do hand paint since i dont have AB.. i like to use lacquer paint because the finishing/surface is better than other type of paint

from what i make, you need to make different ratio for mixing lacquer thinner with different paint such as metallic paint and normal paint
slowly apply with hand brush,wait it for dry and reapply the layer if too thin


some motivation for you(this is my first hand painted kit)
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post Oct 28 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Khai62 @ Oct 28 2012, 12:53 AM)
As for me i hand painted using both lacquer and acrylic and i find the latter is much more better for this since it don't feel thick but smooth on the brush but both need to be thinned properly about the consistency of mild milk as in not too watery and still feel thickness of the paint. As for painting by layer, you really need to wait for about a minute or 2 to dry before applying the next coat as the bigger the painted surface area the longer it will dry but lacquer tend to dry the fastest and you need to paint in one direction only to minimize brush strokes. As for the gloss it either get a flat topcoat and spray on your finish kit or get a flat coat in a bottle and apply it by brush after the paint have dried.
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Thanks for your info. What ratio you use to thinned lacquer paint? My experience is while waiting the painted layer to dry, lacquer paint in tray also started to thicken up even with retarder. So I have to add thinner again?


QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 28 2012, 07:16 AM)
practice make prefect
i also do hand paint since i dont have AB.. i like to use lacquer paint because the finishing/surface is better than other type of paint

from what i make, you need to make different ratio for mixing lacquer thinner with different paint such as metallic paint and normal paint
slowly apply with hand brush,wait it for dry and reapply the layer if too thin
some motivation for you(this is my first hand painted kit)
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Looks nice but still too glossy on the gun tongue.gif But not a problem because can use flat top coat as Khai62 mentioned. Btw have you try enamel paint before? I heard it is good for hand painting also.
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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Oct 28 2012, 10:12 AM)
Looks nice but still too glossy on the gun  tongue.gif  But not a problem because can use flat top coat as Khai62 mentioned. Btw have you try enamel paint before? I heard it is good for hand painting also.
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i only try Tamiya enamel black for reverse washing..
not sure about other color..

it have a better thinner mix ratio so more easy to hand paint compared to lacquer paint
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post Oct 28 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(TheGreatBahamut @ Oct 28 2012, 10:12 AM)
Thanks for your info. What ratio you use to thinned lacquer paint? My experience is while waiting the painted layer to dry, lacquer paint in tray also started to thicken up even with retarder. So I have to add thinner again?
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It was like 1:3 or 1:4 ratio but usually my measuring stick for thinning paint was take a drop of the mixed paint and let it run on the side of the tray and see if it flow smoothly and still have some paint stick to it's side. It will take practice to find that sweetspot and if it was an old paint i will add more thinner than usual as they are much thicker. You do need to add some thinner again if it start to dry up especially with lacquer that tend to dry fast.
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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 28 2012, 02:11 PM)
i only try Tamiya enamel black for reverse washing..
not sure about other color..

it have a better thinner mix ratio so more easy to hand paint compared to lacquer paint
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Oh i see, thanks for your info biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Khai62 @ Oct 28 2012, 04:23 PM)
It was like 1:3 or 1:4 ratio but usually my measuring stick for thinning paint was take a drop of the mixed paint and let it run on the side of the tray and see if it flow smoothly and still have some paint stick to it's side. It will take practice to find that sweetspot and if it was an old paint i will add more thinner than usual as they are much thicker. You do need to add some thinner again if it start to dry up especially with lacquer that tend to dry fast.
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Today I tried out metalic red lacquer paint, the finishing not bad. I will practice more to make it perfect smile.gif
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Just arrive today biggrin.gif

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Just arrive today  biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 30 2012, 12:35 AM)
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RM 114+ excluded shipping sweat.gif

But after tried, totally no regret at all thumbup.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(Ah Fai @ Oct 30 2012, 09:02 PM)
RM 114+ excluded shipping sweat.gif

But after tried, totally no regret at all thumbup.gif
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share share abit the effect. hehe.
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post Oct 31 2012, 01:29 AM

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Wow that quite expensive, not sure want to since i have the Tamiya Sharp Pointed Side Cutter for Plastic which do quite well.

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okayyy so i'm thinking of starting some scratch building soon, so i'm wondering, what are the materials used and how are the parts molded? need a bit of tips and tricks to get me started so i don't fumble about like a headless chicken laugh.gif
any tips and advice are greatly GREATLY appreciated laugh.gif
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guys, how do u like quick wash the airbrush in between spraying different colour of paint?

And anyone here use Mr. Color GX100? Do we need to mix with thinner also? If so normally whats the ratio?
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QUOTE(htpkevin @ Nov 7 2012, 03:11 PM)
guys, how do u like quick wash the airbrush in between spraying different colour of paint?

And anyone here use Mr. Color GX100? Do we need to mix with thinner also? If so normally whats the ratio?
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You can looking for airbrush cleaning here:
http://www.airbrushguru.com/cleaning-your-airbrush.html


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post Nov 8 2012, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(htpkevin @ Nov 7 2012, 03:11 PM)
guys, how do u like quick wash the airbrush in between spraying different colour of paint?

And anyone here use Mr. Color GX100? Do we need to mix with thinner also? If so normally whats the ratio?
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here's my DIY cleaner if your in a budget for you to do some quick wash during painting.
Will cost you around RM2 to build.
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post Nov 13 2012, 08:16 PM

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hi guys, its me again, and i got a lot of stupid questions again>.< First time airbrush my gundam, but i screw up a bit on panel line part

1. Do we need to thin tamiya panel line accent? Or just straight apply?
2. Anyone use Mr colour GX100 clear? Coz from my seller, he said can be use as top coat, so i mix it with thinner and use it as top coat izzit ok? And when we spray when do we know its enough already(coz its transparent...)?
3. And what i did was spray Mr color GX100 clear, then i tried to apply tamiya panel line accent with wash technique, but when i tried to remove the excess ink i think i also remove the layer of paint underneath T_T. So anyone can point me out where is my mistake?

Any guidance is appreciated. Sorry for all the stupid questions

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