Hi im getting my projector from USA soon (Anyone want to join my bulk, can go here >> HD PROJECTOR BULK)

But i still wondering which projector have good price/performance
Im thinking of:

Optoma HD20 ---------- ($950)
Vivitek H1080FD ------- ($900)
BENQ W1000 ----------- ($999)
Mitsubishi HC3800 ----- ($1250 + Free bulb)
other brand/model?

edited:
ok lets make it specific.
HD projector <USD$1500 (US market price)
price/performance comparison

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geforce1999 - HD20
yltan - Sanyo PLV-Z700

This post has been edited by aindejeje: Apr 21 2010, 01:08 AM

Eh,

No panny ae4k?
Or only dlps nid apply?

D

i've seen the Vivitek H1080FD first hand and was VERY impressed with it!

thats different level i guess.
ultra high constrast 100k:1
high-end one

yes. most review conclude that H1080FD > HD20
but the lamp $300-$400
but i guess i change to other pj before <1000 hours
im not going to use it to its limit

You can get the Panny PT-AE 4000 for around RM6600. It's a great option for those who are "rainbow" sensitive.


fuad

seriously RM6600?

I'm using HD20 and with that kind of price tag, no complaint.

how much?
where did u buy it?
singapore have?

I am using Sanyo Full HD Projector, PLV-Z700.

This is very interesting. Where to get this? In Singapore, it's slightly below RM10K mark. I guess that this is a direct conversion by using US price

This post has been edited by aindejeje: Apr 20 2010, 08:48 PM

Haha..

At SGD3.5k, de ae4k is alrdy a bargain.. conisderin I bought my 720p epson tw700 for RM6k 3 yrs back..

D

come on guys..lets give him a benefit of a doubt

where did you get this price for the AE4000?

Yeah, I am waiting for him to let us know about it. Shall inform ar188 too about it since he is longing for one. Maybe we can do bulk purchase and save more.

me and junwei watches this thread with much interest

someone go pm him la
who know maybe he got lobang

This post has been edited by aindejeje: Apr 20 2010, 06:21 PM

For less than USD1.5k, I can only recommend Mitsubishi HC3800. Around USD1.2k. Although no iris, the native contrast is quite good near 2500:1. HD20 and Vivitek 1080FHD is entry level 1080p projector. Most reviewer would recommend top up a bit and get HC3800.

Seriously and see below.

Of course it's the direct conversion of a US price. The OP said he's going to do a bulk buy from the US (that's not counting delivery to Malaysia). What the OP didn't say is at what price is he going to sell after his markup.

The 4000 will sell here for around RM11-12k, as usually the practice when there's a new model comes out. Unlike the previous models, the 4000's light bulb is specific to this model only.

Projectors are not subject to Malaysian tax so if you want to buy one from the US, just get a mail forwarding company to send it to you. The extra cost would still be lower than the authorized dealer price here.


fuad

Imported from US for US$999. Singapore has it but US still the cheapest. I'm a easy man to please. May be when 3D projector goes to main stream then consider changing.

why so surprise AE4000 can be had for RM6600? plus Fedex only rm6880. and no need mail forwarding company.

Which e-tailer did you buy the PT-AE 4000 from?


fuad

ebay?

If AE4000 is below 7K, it will be a great deal. I will take one from whoever can offer hehe

For panasonic AE4000 If u r from pg or kl, buying from sg with 1 year sg local warranty it will be

Projector SGD 3,440 (or less now)
Airport to Adelphi SGD 9
Adelphi to Airport SGD 9
Sandwiches for lunch SGD 5
Tiger air return ticketsSGD 53
Total SGD 3,516 NETT

so when buying?

take bus and pack own food from KL...save another RM50 easy

just wanna ask your opinion (all of us)
is it worth to pay extra RM1k for the warranty?

still in dilemma to buy pj from the states or sg.

I would pay the RM1K extra for warranty. However, it depends on much of a risk taker u r.

I would pay too since pj is more sensitive if to compare to other display panels. If it does kick a fuss within the warranty period, then you still have peace of mind.

Will check out on the fhd pj when I go to Singapore.

sometimes it 1/3 up to 1x of the pj price.
if AE4000 US market price around 7k, sg can get for 8k so a bit ok la.
if HD20 US market price <4k, but here is 6k, so is it worth it?
i can insure for my pj with that extra money

BENQ W1000 is it available in sg?

This post has been edited by aindejeje: Apr 21 2010, 10:15 PM

Haha..

Wat u all talkin here in payin for 1k xtra for warranty - but warranty is valid in Sg.. so to me its not worth it .. jus imagine if [big IF] there is a prblm.. to go dwn there everytime.. I dunno abt u but I dont tink I ll be able to do tat..

If on d other hand if d warranty is here, then its definitely worth it..

But of cos its not..
D

And who says you cant get warranty from panasonic malaysia?

U can?

I remember a chap here who had a rather hard time gettin help for a sold in mal ax100.. he ended up wif an epson [like me] tw700 but I remember he had a major run ard b4 gettin wat he wanted..

N knowin Mal cos.. tis is wat I would expect..

U : I m hvin prblms wif my proj..
Co : Sir.. I cant seem to find ur serial no in our database..
U : O.. I got tis frm Sgp..
Co : U got tis frm Sgp n u wan us to chek up on it?? I m sorry but our co. policy states bla bla..

D

i think u cant get it here.. i call almost all the distributors n check abt 1 year ago (ae4000 not included) .. only epson with give warranty to imported sets of their old model tw1000 as epson used to have international warranty.... after tw1000 no more arrany for imported sets...

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Added on April 22, 2010, 12:08 pmit is likely they will repair for u but kena bayar lo...

as for sg warranty, i personally feel its no big deal sending to sg.. coz its the same for me coz my hometown is very ulu.. anything rosak i need to send to KL service centre anyway.. so sending it to sg or kl invloves the same trouble... but if u live in KL then diff story...

I think sg local set rm8220 and malaysia local set rm13,000 the diff of rm5000 is risking.. rm5000 can send to sg for repair many times jor hhehe

This post has been edited by mys_terious: Apr 22 2010, 12:08 PM

My experience is if the projector is a lemon, normally it will show within 3 months.

Knowing mal cos.. they will try their very darndest to dishonor warranty more so if u didnt buy it from them..
Havin to pay for repairs when rightfully it shld be under de privilige of being warrantied is not helpin at all.. it jus rubs salt on an alrdy festerin wound..
To me not hvin a local rep to do all de run ard is bad as I dont hv d time nor strength/ability to get de offendin unit up n runnin.. BUT of cos if its worth de risk [ meanin substantially cheaper] .. I will get de Sgp model ..

Who in d rite mind wil pay 50% more?
D

haha interesting.
my conclusion:
1) get pj from sg if your hometown in sg.
2) dont buy from local distri (not worth to pay extra money for the warranty)

hey anyone know how this thing works?
http://ucare.com.my/coverage/index_standard.html
its like we can insure our projector.
export set can?

i'll be going Sing tomorrow and be back on Sunday...

i will goto Adelphi and talk to the fellas selling Projectors there

hi
please check BENQ W1000 price for me

Look at this consolidated report of 30 1080p projectors in different price range.

http://www.projectorreviews.com/home-projector/index.php

Just took the first step into the world of projector by purchasing a Vivitek hfd1080. Like what HTkaki said, one you take these step, there is no turning back. Now, I watch my 46 lcd tv is like watching a 20 tv. The only thing I'm not satisfy is the dark background is not solid black more of greyish. Maybe still not get used watching projector, too use to lcd tv.

by air can claim back GST or not? bus also can ar?

Bus should be can't. GST refund counter only avaiable in Airport, right?

mind sharing bought where and how much?

gst can only be claimed when u travel by air.. a good dealer will deduct the gst for u when u buy it.. save u the trouble of claiming at the airport.. the sg gov will reimburse to them... but if u meet a lazy dealer then u just have to claim it from the airport.. no big deal.. these are sg officers who are there with a smile n ready to help u.. not the hand picked fXck head gov officers we have here to mislead n point u to the wrong way...

My friend would like to sell off his Optoma 720p HD66 3D projector used for less than 5 hours only. Looking at RM 2800. No 3D glasses included but you can get any glass that is DLP-Link compatible. He throw away the box as he is moving to his new house. Anyone interested just pm me and I'll pass his contact to you. Anyway, he bought this unit from US as Malaysia still don't have 3D projector.

Bought it in Ipoh and around 5.5 Ks. Not very happy with the screen. There are wrinkles at the side of the screen. When there is a panning shot, you can see wave on the screen. These is very distracting. My screen is draper luma motorised screen. Bought it secondhand. Got it for nine hundred bucks. A friend of mind recommend me using white screen. mine is a grey screen. I thought grey screen more suitable for dlp projector like mine.

Get fix screen. Pull down screen will always had wrinkles.

yes, esp the 'v' formation after some time.


At RM5.5K, it's a very good deal IMHO. On my next trip to Ipoh, am I welcome to your elite HT room?

best is to have a fixed screen. How's the pj performance thus far?

Grey screen is better in side ambient light rejection but some material have a lower gain. You need a bright projector to match with grey screen. Traditionally, DLP is the brighter projector thus the recommendation of grey screen.

for Vivitek, grey is better since it's a bright projector and also vivitek isn't as black (but details are good).

There is a 46" lcd tv on the wall. So, can't use fix screen, bro.

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Added on April 26, 2010, 7:12 pmYou are right about the "V" formation on the screen. That is risk buying secondhand screen. You know these is my first time into projector.
Mine is not an elite setup like yours . More of a peasant setup. No problemo. You are welcome,bro.

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Added on April 26, 2010, 7:22 pmSo far so good. Good picture depth. Nice skintone and good colours. For me, I think it is better than the Optoma hd20 @ first glance.

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Added on April 26, 2010, 7:38 pmYeah! you are right about the picture detail. The screen is distracting me to enjoy the full potential of the Vivitek. The wrinkle at the side and the dirt stain on the top of screen. How to wash off those stain? Went to another hifi shop nearby my place to check for screen. The boss recommend me OS screen. He said it is made in Japan and more thicker than my draper screen. Not easily wrinkle. He also recommend me to let my screen down for one week and not roll it up. He said these might get rid some of the wrinkles on my screen.

This post has been edited by moviebuff: Apr 26 2010, 07:41 PM

pm me his contact
why he want to sell it?

Cause he don't play 3D games and glasses now is quite expensive around USD 150. Hopefully next year with mass adoption will drop to around USD 50. I had pm you the contact.

This post has been edited by pierreye: Apr 27 2010, 08:24 AM

the last time i checked OS screen cost a BOMB even for a pull down screen.. how much and what model was recommended?

Aiya, too late , i already paid deposit to buy HD65 else sure i will get this HD66 from your friend.

Even if you buy new screen the "V" might form later in future. That's why fixed screen is best. But in your case, with LCD TV behind hard to use fixed screen.



OS screen is quite expensive if I'm not mistaken. Not easy to wrinkle, but will it happen eventually?

Tab tensioned pull down screen eliminates the 'v' problem but at a price. I mean hefty price.

I always figured that the best way to integrate a flat panel with a projector within the same room was to have the fixed screen start right from the ceiling, then the center channel speakers are placed right underneath it and then the flat panel TV. The flat panel TV is on a bracket that can horizontally stow it when you're using a projector (either stow it in front with the rest of the HT equipment or you stow it inside the wall).


fuad

Some idea you can consider. You can flip up the screen to the ceiling when not watching projector.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread....0037&highlight=

I was quoted two prices for the OS screen. One is thousand eight. The other one is two Ks plus. both also manual pulldown screen.Don't know what model.

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Added on April 28, 2010, 9:15 pmOS screen is not that expensive compare to one more screen that hifi shop boss recommend to me. It is call Screen Research and cost around thirty Ks. Really out of my budgets . As for wrinkles, he dare not guarantee there won't be any wrinkles but it is much better than Drapers. He said ninety percents of draper screen will wrinkle after being use a while. If I'm not mistaken, you are also using projector too. what screen are you using,bro?

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Added on April 28, 2010, 9:35 pmI did think about getting tab tensioned screen. Art audio boss told me that those tension screen not worth getting because of its' price. He did recommend china made tension screen. But, he said, after being use a while, those string to tension the screen will become loose. If I do go fix screen. what good screens do you recommend that doesn't cost an arm or a leg, bro?

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Added on April 28, 2010, 9:43 pmThanks for the link, bro. Very innovative. Will check it out if it would work for me. Again, thanks.

This post has been edited by moviebuff: Apr 28 2010, 09:43 PM

try amscreen, a local company in Subang. IIRC, a 92" fixed screen is around RM1.2K.

If you are into DIY, then you can just buy the screen online from US and build your own frame. If not, send to photo frame maker or carpenter to do it.

If u need good screen that won't cut your arm or leg, you can PM me.
I'm selling full HD 3M screen fixed,motorized or manual.

junwei, let me know when the new 80" screen is hanging on your wall! I come see

In deep south got some good bargain for Panasonic AE-4000. For those that interested, check it out http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=76599.0

So when are you getting one?

Tats definitely not d best deal ard..

Yeah OS has several different screen materials. You can refer here: http://hk.os-worldwide.com/products/surfac...rial/index.html



I'm using a Carada screen: http://www.carada.com/ Import directly from USA since no dealers here.

Me? Not so soon as my next projector upgrade will be 3D projector Unless my entry cheapskate projector kaput early lah, then will be another story

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Added on May 21, 2010, 1:08 pmOic, I don't really know the actual retail price for that model. Tot it is cheaper so just share with all.

This post has been edited by geforce1999: May 21 2010, 01:08 PM

same here. Still relying on my HD65

Hahaha, great minds think alike mah Just wondering if 5 years later 3D projector will be become main stream or not? I'm pretty sure 3D TV will...

I think the time is near for a full HD1080p pj in ur showroom....

No worries..

AFAIK.. SGD3.5k clean deal [no trade ins] shld be quite ez to cum by.. I heard sum places offerrin even lower.. thou'..

Prblm is upgrdng pj's is tat ur ol one is almost always obsolete n prcd as one.. so I mean its almost a full start up to go get a new one - trade ins even if avlbl wil be almost always insignificant.. n unless ur ol one is kaput .. well ..

Jus my 2cts
D

This is the future of 3D projector.. whuaa ha ha ha ha




This post has been edited by tracktion3: May 22 2010, 07:34 AM

Sifu, thinking of getting a projector for my living room. Either Vivitek H1080HD or Benq W1000. Which would you guys recommend?

Anyone here has tested the Benq before ?

I'm ordering the Mitsubishi HC3800 from USA.
But I need someone else to group buy with me as shipping alone will be quite expensive.
PM me or check my bulk thread.

Vivitek H1080FD
RM4030

Optoma HD20
RM4260

Mitsubishi HC3800
RM5290

pm me
anyone just pm me if got any projector for sale
with the price of cause

Ugpm

Hi caerulln,

OptomaHD20 is only US950 after discount in US. Lets say its (US990xRM3.3=RM3267)
There is no tax for computer and projector items. Is it cause about RM1000 for insurans and shipping? Incase if got tax also the price wont be such a high.
Revised your price bro, so that more people will consider to buy it.

Maybe he wanna have some profit margin leh..

Yeah shipping is around that.
I was quoted USD269 by an ebay seller.
There is 10% sales tax on projectors.
Locally I was quoted RM6k+ for HD20 which is insane. Probably due to its popularity.

I'm just trying to help people order.
I place a fixed price so I'm taking a risk if somehow there is any hidden fees etc.
I guess u can consider it as service fee.
If u find it cheaper to order yourselves, I have no problem with that

A&L 5.2k for 2 yrs warranty

Cash and carry? Bro, IIRC the 2yrs is on parts only. The bulb itself is less than that.

card also can but 2% if not mistaken . yeah onli parts , bulb is like 3 or 6 months cant remember. But at least i got a killer deal for replacement bulb
didnt know rick now work for harvey norman

btw i am not sure if Dell US electronic coupon for small business still works now but i got my HD20 for 20% off frm USD999 .

This post has been edited by Synco: Jun 7 2010, 02:45 AM

Rick is with Unicorn now. He is manning the hi-fi outlet in HN Curve. I call him as Mr Cyrus now

AE4000 SGD3210 with GST!... pretty good buy now (RM7704)!
or
AE4000 US$2195 x 3.4 RM7463

Tempting but seriously low on $$$

Why are those screen so expensive? I ended painted one side of my wall white. so much cheaper.

The effect is different!..

Yo guys, today i went down to Adelphi and saw the panasonic AE4000 selling for ~SGD3499, not sure whether is a good buy anot?

All the bros and Sifus here can advise?

Boss, the anwer is just a a couple post above your post only

This post has been edited by geforce1999: Jun 20 2010, 08:05 AM

how diffferent??

Projection screens have optical coatings that enhance their reflective properties. White walls don't. You can certainly use a wall if you want to, and you will get a watchable image. However, compared to the image you'd get with a screen, highlights will not be as brilliant, contrast and color saturation will be reduced, and (depending largely on the texture of the wall) sharpness will be reduced as well. You will end up with an image that is not as good as your projector is capable of delivering.

now I have to get a screen .... Mine is a PT-AE900E