actually i second to that...it's only when people doing oc and said "my system is stable running at 3.5G"...they need some method to prove it to others...and the well accepted method is by using this P95...for personal use...stability should be based on what u r using la...

One question for all the expert oc guru. If i ran cpu:ram asynch would it effect the performance compared to running sync.

On intel, there is bottlenecking effect i notice, on AMD64 is it the same?. I heard about the pros and cons of the mem controller,
I was looking for answers at XS and Hardforum, but couldnt find any. So here is the question, AMD64 has bottlenecking effects?
I would be really glad if somebody could enlightened me with these. I plan to get AMD64 3800+ but since i have a bad RAM might as well i used dividers-so im glad if anybody can help me.
If the effect is quite serious, i would think of getting 3200+ coupled with a good pair of RAM.

Ive tried running with dividers, and gladly i can inform u that the effect is not significant. Running benchmark such as SuperPI give some sort of equivalent value...
So i have to say just go for it. The mem controller does help a lot in addressing bottlenecking issues. However since i have yet to test the configuration rigorously over this matter, maybe u can have a peek here later on for more feedback from members of this OC community...

btw, good question bro, i have not taken this matter into account for some reasons..maybe later if i got NBTD, i would enlightened u with benchies..but rest assured that as far as PI is concerned, the value i got is quite similar and havent shown any signs of bottlenecking effects..forgot to mention something, gaming also show no signs of lagging unlike those of Intels.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Apr 17 2005, 05:17 AM

my result at 312 fsb @ 2.5g. prime for 5 hours.. im using xp120 with delta 120mm fan for my cooling.


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dude, that's one high htt, congrats

too bad it's on divider

I dont think its much of a problem running high htt on dfi mobos..
dude, he's running that on 2-2-2-6 configuration..very sweet..summore prime stable-congrats.

yeah true but i'm more interested in 1:1 config

yeah...1:1 is every ocers dream..
TCCD might do it, but it might not beat the tight timing even though its running at 300htt, this is due to loose timing on TCCD's..ive read somewhere on XS comparisons between the OCZ VX at 260htt 2-2-2-6 beats the TCCD 300htt running at loose timing..
but as always TCCD is good for 24/7 systems becos of lower vdimm..

base on what u saying i'm looking at our local forumers in Super Pi ranking.
Evogenix and Sniper on the roof. both of them have almost the exact same setup
but differ in type of ram. sniper on TCCD and Evo on UTT.
Right now tight timing is leading the way on AMD setup.
So its a good example for all the AMD64 user either going for TCCD or UTT.

ello all....this is dun with fear n a lot of prayers....ahhahahahah



this is a little bit more gatal tangan.....



this really keng chow....There are with dividers..300HT..but who wanna see wan what....summore SuperPI can manage 40's jerk....where got kick....ahhh...juz show lar wiff dividers.....300HTT...jeng jeng jeng....




Stability Test...Prime95...running and temp below 50c.....



After stop prime....

p/s:thanks to PCcrazy for tips n tricks......can ask him for help...very helpfull guy....maklum ler noob like me needs teachers like PCcrazy....hahahahha...







note:i ran with only only sticks of kingston 512MB 400mhz KVR...2.85v...CPU 1.50 Adjust Percent 10.00%.....leceh la ini ejas� percent...why not make only voltage selector....haiuyaaahh...

The OCZ cannot do what this KVR can do....dunno why lar...mebbe voltage not enuff....

This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Apr 19 2005, 12:08 PM

Yeah...on SPI alone...TCCD at 2.5-3-3-6 needs an extra 100Mhz to keep up with UTT at 2-2-2-5

UTT better than TCCD???

btw what is both of them?? i still dunno oooOOoOo...

DDR,DDR2,DDR3 KVR,Corsair,DT/BT-D43,winbond bh-5/6 tau lar....but what is TCCD and UTT...

btw, juz tried my dt-d43
can 2.5-3-3-x at 240...
n my pie is 32sec



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eh why u faster than me....all same except u dual chan....mine single chan....is dual chan can gain as much like urs????

y i faster?
coz im on dual channel, using 200:166 deviders, n tighter ram timings

not really...
even utt win tccd on the same htt and divider, doesnt mean that its better

for example,
if benchmarking @ 250htt,
utt[ch5/bh5] can goes for 2-2-2-x and
tccd can goes for 2.5-3-3-x
In this situition, utt's[ch5/bh5] take some advantages on tccd due the low timings

but, dont forget, utt's[ch5/bh5] need high vdimm on higher speed[MHz] and normally they will max out around 250-260 MHz

if benchmarking @ 300htt,
utt[ch5/bh5] cant do 1:1 anymore, but only with divider, but
tccd still can do 1:1 with 1T @ 300htt @ low vdimm
In this case tccd will smoked out utt[ch5/bh5] far far away Edited : not very far la... still can see the smoke

UTT means Winbond's UnTesTed ram

Evogenix

This post has been edited by Evogenix: Apr 18 2005, 01:35 PM

single channel? why do u even bother to run sigle channel?
just teasin ya..i know its for benchies purpose only..
so how far can the RAM go at DC...im interested to know--OCZ tu..
put some voltage on to it---3.5v it will shines like a sun.
downclock the proc and up u go htt...show us some real OCZ power...

@Austin..thanks very much for the contribution....1.18v @ 2.2ghz? wow

@antonio---that is great clock...2.7 Ghz 1.6vcore only

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Apr 18 2005, 02:07 PM

greattt???....tiuuu....talak shiok maaa....heheheheh....

btw whats the max u guys ever heard in terms of 1:1 HTT on any rams???

OCZ???cannot lar tailor....mebbe have to use DDR booster....can't get timing like 3 3 3 8.... x 3 3 8 the x must not be 3 if 2.5 can....dunno why...voltage aledi habis at 1.85....summore 240 cannot boot...4x HTT u know....if 225 can boot wif 4X HTT...dun even bother go HTT 3x or play wif loose timing coz the OCZ wont boot.....

max i get last nite...was 233...HTT x4... 2.5 4 4 8...vdimm 1.85...cpu voltage same like the time o/c d43 wan...use OCZ cannot boot...tit tit tit...sumore malam lagik....tit tit tit...org mau tido pun cannot....

then change to KVR....wahlawwehhhh.....hihihihi....300 HTT x4 no hal...weh ada once maybe i hit 313....yahhh...i remember...got but no screen shot...divider 133 kots...ker 166 ntah....tapi loose timing kaw kaw....heheheheh.....


DC nie what does it means.????

This post has been edited by antonio_zth: Apr 18 2005, 02:22 PM

sorry man..its Dual Channel..
1.85vdimm? supposed to be 2.85vdimm..
yeahh but ocz is a great brand..ive seen ocz value doing 250htt 2-2-2-6..drool