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TSomega-lynx
post Apr 16 2010, 02:18 PM, updated 16y ago

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Hi everybody,

I've been using my current 15" Macbook Pro for about 2 years now, it gave me no problem whatsoever. But earlier this year, some problem started to crop up. Namely the screen's backlight starts flickering once in a while and after a few weeks my MBP cant detect it's own motion sensor. Then one fine day, my MBP fell dead on me. It just wont start when i pressed the power button. I tried to reset the SMC, but to no avail.

So i sent my MBP for servicing to Machines 1Utama because it's the closest Apple Service Center from my place. It was the 5th or 6th day of CNY when i went there. When i arrived at the Machines Plus counter, the person at the back was playing some CNY song VERY loud. As i was explaining the problems to him, he kept playing the song out loud from his Macbook, his face showed such indifference as though he was too lazy to layan me and he didn't notice that the loud noise made it hard for me to say anything without me shouting. Granted it was CNY, i can understand lah the festive mood and that there wasn't many customers that day. But professional courtesy la, when someone is talking to you make sure you look at him, NOT stare at your computer screen playing games or choosing songs or whatever ALL the time! And Machines is supposed to be an Apple "Premium Reseller"? Please laaaaaa shakehead.gif

But that was nothing compared to what happens next

After a week, someone from Machines called me to tell me that the problem has been fixed and all i need to pay was RM100 (which i thought it was lucky of me, since it was nothing to do with the logic board). I collected it, used it for a week and it died on me again. This time, i tried to press Command+Control+Power Button and my MBP manage to start back after a few tries. But now other problem starts to show, the fan runs on full speed all the time and the battery wont charge at all. Just like the first time, i sent it back to Machines 1Utama. After 5 days, i was sleeping when the service center called me and told me my worse fear, my Logic Board needs replacing. It cost around RM2400 for the Logic Board and since my battery and disk drive needs replacing, it would be another RM1000+ for those. Hey, i was asleep when he called me, my mind was still fuzzy and i cant make a decision on whether to replace everything or get a whole new MBP on the spot. So i told him i need to consult my computer guru first and i will give him a call the next day

Called the Machines Service Center the next day, asked the very lazy sounding receptionist to transfer my call to the one who serviced my MBP. The call went like;

Him: Hello (in a VERY cold way, as though i disturbed him in a middle of a date or something)
Me : You called me yesterday and told me that my MBP needs parts replacement (i gave him my service number so he knows which one in mine)
Him : Yes (still in a cold lansi way)
Me : So it's the Logic Board right? How much is it again? and how much will the battery and disk drive cost?
Him : I've already told you yesterday (in a VERY ANNOYED AND LANSI TONE! What's his problem anyway? insecure about the size of his man-parts?)
Me : Ok, since it's gonna be quite expensive, i think i'll wait for Apple to release the new MPB (and i still spoke to him in a very POLITE way!)
Him : Ok. We'll still need to charge you RM60 for cancellation of service (WTF, it's still under the last service warranty!)
Me : RM60? I thought it's still under your warranty from my last service (just a week ago)? Since it's the same problem as last time, could the one before be caused by the same faulty Logic Board? (Which means its the same problem, but cause me to send it back twice)
Him : I'm not the one who serviced your laptop last time (Again with the very annoyed tone)
Me : So do i still need to pay?
Him : No


What kind of 2 bit service center is this shakehead.gif !? I asked him in a very soft way and he treated me like crap! I've sent them an email requesting the company's stand on this matter and they had not replied me even after around 2 months. Hey, when you buy a RM7000++ laptop, you'd expect some professionalism! After all, we are the one who pays for their salary mad.gif ! I'll get more friendlier service if i buy a cheap 1000+ Acer laptop from Low Yat Plaza ok! "The Best Apple Reseller" my bottom!

The best part is (MY part that is tongue.gif ), i manage to make Machines lose some of it's customers. You see, i was always good at influencing peoples around me and i have quite a few friends working in the graphic design line. 1 of them is a founder and head manager of a graphic design studio company. Somewhere in August this year, she's doing a major revamp on their computer line. She's looking for around 10 units of 17" Macbook Pro and 3 units of iMac and 2 units Mac Pro and not to mention countless softwares for the new office and is searching for a single product and service provider. She has bought her personal iMac and iPod from Machines Mid Valley and is a long time customer of the shop and has shortlisted them to be her supplier. Guess who managed to change her mind brows.gif ? You see, they are not far sighted enough to see this. Just because they were arrogant with one customer, they have lost business for around RM120,000++ worth of hardware and about 5 years worth or servicing and consultancy fees rclxms.gif

Im looking to get a replacement for my 15" MBP, and now that the price has drop yet again, the time is ripe to get one soon. But rest assured im never doing business with Machines again




TSomega-lynx
post Apr 16 2010, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(eddychstu @ Apr 16 2010, 02:20 PM)
sorry i never like Machines or Apple store services, hidden ego in them as they are selling some sort of 'special hi-end' products. Totally different experience when i'm shopping in other countries.
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Yup, you'll get politer reply when you asks for the price of the Ferrari at Naza Automall, while wearing a faded T-shirt and shorts biggrin.gif
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post Apr 17 2010, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Apr 16 2010, 02:51 PM)
Actually the problem is with Machines 1U, I have no issue on Machines on Medvalley and Gardens, their service is good as I bought most of my gadgets from there, then I was in 1U and decided to buy some case for my iphone so drop by at Machines, their face is so Lan Si and full of EGO, I called them to open the case and found some stratches not even put them on my iphone yet and they told me they cannot refund.... hello... I open the box in front of them and discover the scratch... and aftyer a few argument as I raise my voice they decided to refund to me... NEVER go to 1U Machines, my GF also BANNED the place... then I was in switch sri kembangan... their service is superb.... also Mid Valley Machines they offered superb service as well...
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Yup, the ones in MV & Gardens are a bit more politer. But my main problem is their main service center which is located in the office blocks within MV City. Even if i buy from them, whenever it needs servicing, will it end up in the same place and people.

QUOTE(wiraone @ Apr 16 2010, 02:54 PM)
For servicing, avoid Machines at all cost .. they are incompetence loads .. I've been happy with service given by Sapura (Sect.14, PJ) and VR Tech (Yap Kwan Seng near Australian Embassy).
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I agree. One of my boss last time always send his iMacs to VR Tech, fast service with very little hassle!

QUOTE(valcrist @ Apr 16 2010, 02:57 PM)
I suggest you send your MBP at the Gardens. The customer service there is quite good. They're quite nice people, well atleast to me they are.
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The shop's customer service IS good. But they will end up sending my MBP for servicing to the same place and to the same big-head-small-batang guy

QUOTE(akidos @ Apr 16 2010, 03:34 PM)
next time bring a gun along . a long parang will do too.
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I rather smash my car into the shop to be honest biggrin.gif

QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Apr 16 2010, 03:41 PM)
Machines has terrible service. I screamed at one of their technical support persons because of their incompetent -- 'don't really want to talk to you' service.

Your best bet would be to

1. Call Apple care and get a service ID from them
2. Go to Sapura (they are listed on the apple web site) in PJ (near Digital mall) and they will fix your laptop usually within 1 or 2 days. The guy you need to talk to is Chong See Khien, really nice guy -- he fixed the cracks in my laptop, and cleaned the inside of it as well.
3. Complain directly to Apple about Machines. Machines is a direct representative of Apple so their bad service puts Apple in a bad light.
4. Boycott Machines, and try out the other mac stores. Mac City had really good service but I don't know if they are still around.
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1. My Logic Board is a gone case. So i rather get a new MBP than servicing this one (Logic Board+Battery+Optical Drive= more than half the priceof a new 15" MBP)

QUOTE(jonest @ Apr 16 2010, 04:18 PM)
omega-lynx,

Perhaps you may posts your complaints at their facebook fan page. Should get enough attention!
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Oh, i WILL! I was planning to do that all this while. But since i know they might delete the comment, i think it's better the warm up LY forum 1st icon_idea.gif


QUOTE(rheza02 @ Apr 16 2010, 05:02 PM)
thanks god, i'm not the only one.  mad.gif
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Added on April 17, 2010, 3:52 am
QUOTE(aizad02 @ Apr 16 2010, 05:41 PM)
ya, me too i'd heard lots of positive comments for VR. From my experience, i bought mine from KLCC machines, so far so good, their service's nice. been there for few prob and they helped me. just make sure u talk politely and they'll respond politely.
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Even if i buy from the KLCC branch, they will still send it to their main service center in Mid Valley mah. There is no way im paying that SOB's salary vmad.gif !


QUOTE(jonrwg @ Apr 16 2010, 06:07 PM)
how bout mac city in one utama? beside haagen dazs..
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Yup, they're rather good with their customers. But im thinking of getting mine from Epicenter in Pavillion

QUOTE(skool87 @ Apr 16 2010, 08:31 PM)
actually if we get bad experience,from premium reseller we can complaint.las time i got apple training at their HQ at bkit damansara.their trainer press bout good service cos we are represent apple.its not easy to got deal to be premium reseller since its a premium item
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You know lah, Malaysians being Malaysians, once you've pass the test, you wont bother to keep up your good work mah

QUOTE(OmniAtlas @ Apr 16 2010, 11:37 PM)
Place a stop-order on your credit card? Hopefully you haven't paid for it already.

Next time it might be better to order direct from Apple, or from stores with stock.

Boycott Machines?
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Boycott! Jangan tak boycott! mad.gif


QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Apr 17 2010, 01:46 AM)
That's why i never ever have a slight interest of buying from authorized dealers like those mentioned. I don't deny that some provide really good service, but it's like a 50-50 chance simply because that our personal shopping experiences depend too heavily on the hands of sale representatives that served us.

No offense, but i can't help to notice most of sale representatives can be very judgmental on a customer's pocket. It's wayyyy too different from the service i got from flagship Apple Store in 5th Avenue, speaking from a POV of a foreigner that speaks broken English in the middle of huge crowd, in the midst  the launch of new iMac
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True, thats why whenever i go to KLCC or Pavillion after work or for lunch, i'll always bring along my blazer biggrin.gif . If you wear them, you'll be treated like a millionaire, which is quite shallow of them shakehead.gif But still, i've already bought a 7000+ laptop, dont you think i at least deserved a fair treatment from them?


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TSomega-lynx
post Apr 17 2010, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Apr 17 2010, 12:23 PM)
just put the blame on the government. Msia per capital income* is so low ($13,551) compared to Sg ($49,433). Almost 4X lower. A Bangla in Sg earn almost as much as a bank officer in Msia  rclxm9.gif  . A lot of ppl still can't afford a Mac in Msia. In Sg ? even my kid carry a Macbook white and she's only in Primary 4  rclxms.gif ..so it's nothing to brag about owning a Mac here.

* based on International Monetary Fund (2009)
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I did not bring this topic up to make it into a political and social status one. Just because on average sg earns higher, doesn't mean malaysians are all dirt poor. We have a lot more rural populations in our country and that alone can pull your Per Capita (not Capital like you wrote) Income down. Our GDP is higher than yours, but since our population are higher than yours too, it's just simple logic that our average are lower than yours. But that doesn't mean there are much much less well-to-do malaysians than singaporean.

And why the need to brag about your kid carrying a Macbook? Did she paid for it herself? There are many parents here who sends their kids to private schools who can afford stuffs much more expensive than you la. My dad gave me an RX8 for my 19th birthday, but thats hardly anything to brag about here, since i've already have vehicles of much higher calibre now than im making my own money rclxms.gif
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post Apr 17 2010, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(power911 @ Apr 17 2010, 09:33 PM)
ahaha bad service lol
it's true too tongue.gif
wanna try iPhone but look at me with a face called (ah you little kid obviously won't get a chance to own one)

anyway I love Apple products
except the customer services available in Malaysia tongue.gif

no hates pls icon_rolleyes.gif

ps: luckily my iMac still working fine till now. it's sweet


Added on April 17, 2010, 9:35 pm

haha same here  laugh.gif
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It's so true! But its very short sighted of them, because there are a huge number of iphone & ipod users who are teenagers. Just because they're not working, doesn't mean they cant afford them.

Btw, why need to brag oso? last time whenever i go out with friends, i tend to use a Gen2 instead. If i drive the RX8, there will be a lot of "you belanja lah" calls whenever we go out makan hahaha biggrin.gif
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post Apr 17 2010, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 17 2010, 09:54 PM)
well about the 'judging people' part i think all of us did that at one point or another..

i remember once i saw this high school kid i think...arnd that age lah. his style very 'kampung' one.. worn out clothes, tshirt with stupid graphics, dirty jeans, worn out slipper, hanging out with similar folks like him... then some1 called, and from his pocket he took out an iphone sad.gif

i think my clothes all more expensive than him, but i still use a SE dumbphone.. haha
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hahaha i think all of us are guilty of that to some degree. But at least they're not paying our salary, so we can say or judge what we like muahahaha brows.gif

There was this one time, i saw a family at a parking lot, the husband was wearing a faded t-shirt with a cheap looking shorts, the wife was wearing something similar too. It just crosses my mind at that time that they might not be very well-off la, might be driving a Saga or a Wira or some very old japanese car. Wrong, they went into a brand new 5 Series. As i got into my own car i started to laugh my @ss off for being such a biased jerk rclxms.gif
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post Apr 18 2010, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(yeahs4.1 @ Apr 17 2010, 08:37 AM)
btw TS, is your MBP covered by ACPP still? the logic board replacement is kinda scary
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No, it's not. I didn't apply for ACPP in the first place. Quite silly of me really sweat.gif

For the amount they're asking for a new logic board, and with the stuffs that needs replacing, it would amount to just a shade under 4k. So it's just more economical to buy a new laptop since the logic board only comes with a 3 month warranty

 

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