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auronthas	Sep 22 2010, 03:38 PM Return to original view \| Post #1
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Hi, found this interesting yet informative thread, I love chinese tea too. I started chinese tea since 12 years ago, following friends to tea shop and get 'hooked' lol. I started with Oolong tea (such as Tie Quan Yin, etc.) then Green Tea (Long Jing, Mei Jia Wu, etc.) and three years ago, started with Pu-Er. Like most of ppl, I do not like Pu-Er initially as was cheated with bad quality Pu-Er, after few years later, during one of the tea exhibitions, someone introduced me various type of Pu-Er like previous posts stated, young raw, old ripe Pu-Er, etc. I started with young raw Pu-Er as it is easy to get adapt, slowly I also start liking the old ripe Pu-Er. Two year ago, I have bought Xia Guan (下关）Duo Cha and Yi Wu （易武）spring young raw Pu-Er (three rolls, each roll with seven pcs), keep them in well ventilated space/clay pot (紫砂）for natural fermentation. Starting to learn to differentiate taste of different years of Yi Wu young raw Pu-Er. Just to share a brief story of my tea experience, there are lot more to learn and experience from this thread. Added on September 22, 2010, 3:42 pm QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 22 2010, 10:50 AM) ~Lesson from JYH~ My recent medical report showed that my ALT/APT (liver) are higher than the normal, could it be the cause of young raw Pu-Er tea? Usually I drink around 3 - 5 pm during weekend approximately 500ml. This post has been edited by auronthas: Sep 22 2010, 03:43 PM
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auronthas	Sep 22 2010, 05:31 PM Return to original view \| Post #2
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 22 2010, 04:16 PM) Glad to hear from you. So when the result showed higher ALT/APT (liver), what did the doctor say to make it stable? I have been on 1liter+ consistently daily for past 4 months. A little worry myself, but just couldn't resist to drink on. Is there any symptom of pain, etc? Sorry out of topic I have had the same problem 2 years ago, after taking some chinese medicine and have medical check, it's back to normal. However, the recent medical checkup, the ALT/APT went up again, there are many possibilities, fatty liver, toxic, hepatitis-carrier, etc. There's no symptom of pain as there's no nerves around liver, that's why ALT/APT is a precaution test on your liver condition. I have read some books and online, the best cure on liver is to have enough sleep/rest, exercise, as liver is our 'sewerage treatment plant'. Btw, I also consumed around 1 litre per day, I will cut down probably to 0.5 litre on young raw pu-er. I will go for further medical checkup by end of the year.
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auronthas	Oct 18 2010, 01:41 PM Return to original view \| Post #3
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	To share my tea collections to fellow tea lovers: Bought 8 pcs (1pc + 1 roll) of Yi Wu (易武）ripe tea during tea exhibition back in July 2008 which was held in Berjaya Time Square; tried one pc, personally I like the its taste, so as my family members who seldom drink tea, they also like the taste. I bought additional 2 rolls (14 pcs) the following year at one of the renowned tea shops. Early this year, I opened another pc of Yi Wu (2008), it tasted slightly different and towards aged raw, from the color and taste it tells, I believe it will taste even better as the time goes, I keep them in clay pot (紫砂). Also during Oct 2009, I bought additional roll of Pu-er tea (7 pc) from Wild Plant (2008) from the same tea shop as photo shown below, tasted it at the tea shop, it suits my taste well too. But haven't tasted it at home yet, will consume it soon after I finish the Yi Wu and other teas (very soon).
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auronthas	Oct 19 2010, 09:12 AM Return to original view \| Post #4
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 19 2010, 08:35 AM) Having factories pressing the raw material is fine, but they should not use the exact same packing and batch info. This is non ethical... but then from a country that can fake nearly everything... no comments la. I am also worry buying fake tea, that's why, after observing for long time, I only visit two or three local tea shops regularly. As my post earlier, I knew one of the local tea shops since 14 years ago, two years ago, they started their joint-venture with china tea factory on Pu-er tea such as Yi Wu, Qiao Mu, etc. According to the local tea shop owner, they shared their technical advise such as good and hygiene packing, etc. with chinese tea factory. At least, I rest assured their teas are not fake and their price also reasonable.
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auronthas	Oct 19 2010, 12:22 PM Return to original view \| Post #5
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 19 2010, 10:49 AM) Fake is 1 worry. Lesser quality minum tak apa... but another bigger worry, this year pesticides seems out of control, so meaning 2010 tea 'may' have problem. Not to buy tea for a year or two. Our worries are few unethical tea factories or tea seller may keep the 2010 teas and wrap with 2011 or 2012 labels then how to tell and differentiate ? Probably have to look for with quality control label and regular tea sellers which are trustable.
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auronthas	Nov 28 2010, 06:22 AM Return to original view \| Post #6
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Went to Mines Exhibition for the Sixth SEA Pu-Er Trade Fair yesterday and bought myself 1 carton (10pcs) + 2 pcs 2010 Lincang raw Pu-er (临沧永德大雪山原生茶) and also 2pcs of 2003 Yaole raw Pu-Er (攸乐古茶) Here about Linchang raw pu-er article (in chinese) - http://www.lctea.gov.cn/plus/view.php?aid=526 I have had chance to test Lincang raw Pu-er for an hour. The 2010 Lincang raw Pu-er's taste is not as good as 2008 Yihu raw Pu-er when you first taste it, but the after taste (韵味) is really good (甘甜) This post has been edited by auronthas: Nov 28 2010, 06:27 AM
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auronthas	Nov 28 2010, 04:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #7
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 9 2010, 09:35 PM) Got myself some puerh boxes and rearranged my cabinet. In the picture are my Unopened stocks. Opened stocks are kept separately in the living room and some in office. Though my cabinet has got raw and ripe, but it is separated in the shelf and there is no smell in it. So raw and ripe shouldn’t influence each other. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1st shelf: ->2009 – 7542 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2008 – 7532 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2007 – 8582 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2007 – 0712 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2010 – Year of Tiger – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2006 – Lao Ban Zhang Raw Pu-erh – 400g Beeng x 1 piece ->2010 – Mi Di Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 1 piece ->2008 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 1 piece ->2010 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 1 piece 2nd shelf: ->2007 – Chen Yun – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 400g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2009 – Gong Tuo – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 100g Tuo x 24 pieces ->2010 – Golden Ribbon XY – Xia Guan Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->Hojo’s Vintage 30 years Oolong ->Hojo’s Ali Shan Cha Oolong ->Empty toong box 1 ->Empty toong box 2 3rd shelf: ->2009 – 7572 – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 10 pieces ->2010 – Royal Court Gong Ting – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 200g Beeng x 8 pieces ->2010 – Gong Tuo – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 100g Tuo x 2 pieces ->90s (Early) – Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh – 1kg Loose x 1 box ->2007 – Yunnan Chi Tse Beeng Cha Yellow Stamp – Guoyan Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 15 pieces ->2006 – 7581 – Kunming Ripe Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 2 pieces ->Empty toong box 1 4th shelf: ->2009 – Dragon Pole – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 15 pieces ->2009 – Taetea Golden Brick – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 1kg Brick x 1 box ->Hojo’s Shi Feng Long Jing ->Empty beeng boxes (many) Correct if I am wrong, i.e. Pu-er (especially raw one) should be stored in an open, well ventilated (odorless environment), no direct sunlight. Also if you store them in boxes, you should remove them from box so that it can speed up the fermentation (especially the raw one). I stored mine in open bookshelves, just stacked them according to their types, years, it's good to reshuffle quarterly (every 4 months) within the stacks. It's time to enjoy my regular afternoon tea during weekend, i.e. Yihu raw 2008, cheers ! This post has been edited by auronthas: Nov 28 2010, 04:56 PM
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auronthas	Nov 30 2010, 06:16 PM Return to original view \| Post #8
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:47 AM) Hi there. From what I've learned, it's not good to expose the tea with too much air. While it may age faster, this type of aging is not what we desire. The tea will lose its flavor more quickly as oxidation is ongoing instead of fermentation. For me I just store my teas in the cardbox that came along when I bought them and open the box once every few weeks to "swap" out the air inside. QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 30 2010, 12:02 AM) Usually, I do not open the box if the tea is for aging. I just place it in a room away from sunlight. Those bricks or toucha I place it lowest on the rack to 'absorb' the earth qi and to speed up the aging since fermentation is hard due to its tight compression. I break up those that I want to drink and place it in a canister. I will bring it to along with me whenever go out makan outside and ask the waiter to brew them. Thanks for sharing your method of storing Pu-Er. Previously I stored my Pu-Er at ground floor (next to staircase) in paperback until I read some articles and advise from teashop (during my recent visit to Tea exhibition) saying the Pu-Er should be stored in open, well ventilated, away from direct sunlight best to store at 1st floor to prevent moisture at ground floor (my house is quite cooling at ground floor even though during hot day). The teacakes are still wrapped in original paper. For those opened teacake, I store them in a clay (ZhiSha) pot as most of you do There are many ways of storing depends on your method and room conditions; most crucial is stay away from wet area, odor area, hazardous area. Cheers.
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auronthas	May 24 2011, 06:15 AM Return to original view \| Post #9
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ May 23 2011, 10:59 PM) Got so tempted to buy this 2 years old modern zhuni 3 legged teapot. Size is just right for 1 or 2 person. Love at first sight but... Someone has used it before and didn't clean the teapot well. There are some tough stains on the outside. I tried to use water and rub it with my fingers. Couldn't get it off... so decided to pass as it is not cheap either. Try to use Magic Sponge to remove the tough stain. You can find Magic Sponge at Jusco, Isetan, mostly from Japan.
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auronthas	Jun 25 2011, 02:44 AM Return to original view \| Post #10
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 23 2011, 10:08 PM) A gift from a SG friend. Thank you if you are reading this 80s Factory #1 Teapot - quite a rough workmanship (in a good way back then). Can someone identify what clay is this? A lot of blink blink... Di Cao Qing? Colour a little off in the photo » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « The blink blink may be quartz, I have two green clay teapots bought from China, Wuxi Province, Yixin City. (See photo below). If you understand Chinese, there's name for both green teapots. 最左边茶壶为＂一片清心＂（绿砂，工艺师－周才军）最右边茶壶为＂水上漂＂（绿砂）此二茶壶购于中国无锡宜兴，帅元紫砂艺苑 I was told this type of teapot is best to brew half-fermented tea such as Tie Quan Yin, Wu Long tea. For Pu Er tea, purple clay pot is the most suitable, the darker for the ripe Pu Er. This post has been edited by auronthas*: Jun 25 2011, 02:46 AM
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auronthas	Jun 25 2011, 01:54 PM Return to original view \| Post #11
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	Green Tea，Hangzhou Mei Jia Wu (杭州梅家坞） This post has been edited by auronthas: Jun 25 2011, 01:55 PM
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auronthas	Jun 26 2011, 11:28 AM Return to original view \| Post #12
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 25 2011, 07:04 PM) 2005 Liu Bao (Golden Award from Tea Expo) - This is one out of the forty blind tasting samples sent out to participants interested to try before the Expo. It eventually won the gold award after being voted by hundreds of tea drinkers. It is the only Liu Bao that won the gold award. I was with a senior today, and he was saying he don't want to try/buy cause it will be just another Liubao and he has plenty (young and very old). Eventually we went to try. And we were suprised how good it is at the price. The taste is very good for a young liubao. Very warm feeling when drinking. Strong aroma and deep flavored. As it gets lighter from many infusions, it remains sweet. It gives a very longlasting overtaste. The booth that is selling this is crowded with people and most of them are all praising it. Eventually we bought it » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « How much is Liu Bao per kg? I bought 1 basket Liu Bao (Guangxi Wuzhou, 'Three Crane' brand) approx. 5.6kg for RM 200 My humble Pu Er tea collection (左起）云南易武生茶（2008)，云南千家寨乔木生茶(2008)，云南永德生茶(2009) From left: Yihu raw 2008, QianJiaZhai Wild Plant raw 2008, Yongde raw 2009 新购云南永德普洱熟茶2006年（左) Newly bought Yongde ripe 2006 (left) This post has been edited by auronthas: Jun 26 2011, 01:51 PM
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auronthas	Jun 26 2011, 01:53 PM Return to original view \| Post #13
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 26 2011, 01:06 PM) It depends on age and grade. I think you bought at good price. 3 cranes brand are more expensive liu bao tea. The puer tea you got also quite good. I bought at RM 200 per basket actually after recalculated, my mistake. Anyway, thanks for the compliment
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auronthas	Jul 1 2011, 05:07 PM Return to original view \| Post #14
AudiOphiL3 Senior Member 1,346 posts Joined: Sep 2007	QUOTE(auhckw @ Jul 1 2011, 02:51 PM) If you rub with oil, after pouring with hot water.. the shine will go away.. not to mention whether you will get poisoned from drinking the tea from it.. hehe But if you sand paper it, you can still brew the tea safely. The shine will be a little artificial but some people like it. Always after last brew of tea, pour tea surrounding the teapot, then rub with cloth, occasionally you can use tea leaves to rub. After long time, your teapot will look shine naturally shine. Really enjoy the evolvement of teapot from raw clay to a shiny clay
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