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Chaossisxy
post Jan 21 2011, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 21 2011, 10:39 AM)
Chinese greens and Japanese greens = I go Hojo. They have plenty of choices... expensive but nice.

For a casual chinese green tea, you can try their Yun Feng: http://hojotea.com/item_e/g08e.htm

For a casual japanese green tea, you can try their Karigane: http://hojotea.com/item_e/g16e.htm

For their premium... they have few. You can request to try some of those premium. But super premium, sometimes they may not allow to try cause too expensive.
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bro you seems know tacha for longs. need some advice from you if you dont mind to share.

i just get to know them 2 weeks ago and my friend bought a cheap teapot (below rm200) there.

we reach there quite late so did not manage to sit long time there. the spectacle guy (i guess is the booss) let us try few raw pu er.

To be frank, i'm still a newbie for chinese tea. right now they are doing promotion for rm999 (1tong raw tea + free a teapot). is this ok to buy?
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post Jan 21 2011, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 21 2011, 04:35 PM)
I don't know them for long, but I think they sell nice tea/teawares/environment, friendly people, knowledgeable and most important they are willing to share their knowledge. I learned a lot from them.

I have tasted that raw tea you mentioned. The taste was quite good but not of their highest grade. Quite worth a deal according to few of their customers who have been following them for years cause they say the teapot is quite good. I saw few of them buying when I was hanging out there. Yesterday, they have another promotion, 5 piece ripe tea + free a teapot.

If you intend to collect/stock up tea and enjoy over the years, then you can opt to buy 1 tong... but if you intend to drink many different types of tea, then no need to buy 1 toong but rather few pieces or even 1 piece. Of course it all comes to your financial la, if 1 toong price is nothing to you, then well go ahead smile.gif

They have many other teas, you can also opt to try more before deciding to buy. They don't rush you to buy... so don't worry.
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haha..nice reply from you. big thanks notworthy.gif

i financially not strong blush.gif , this is the 1st toong i wan to buy. i read some article said, if drink raw pu er, the fermented process can go up to 30-50 years shocking.gif .

if keep the tea properly, every 3month the taste also will chaging. that y i plan to try once.

tacha they are good, sharing alot of knowledge for tea. he told me about things like enzyme , tannic acid... rclxub.gif , and i feel what they taught me very scientific.

due to limited budget, i will not go to high grade tea. moreover, i still newbie, dont wan to spend too much before i know how to differential the good/bad taste first.

i read back your old post and found u bought the Dong Dao Ru Kiln from south city plaza. i just been there today (3hours ago).

what tea u drinking with that? i heard drink pu er should use zhi sa, because the air permeability is good. you use with oolong tea?

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post Jan 21 2011, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 21 2011, 05:28 PM)
i think in the end is not about how expensive of the tea(expensive is for show off), the most important is which tea you like.  Even for teapot, as long as it fits and you like to use it should be alright.
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agreed. drink tea is just a hobby.

for teapot (as a tool), 2 different material teapot really can make same tea different taste. i tested before.

definately, you need certain level of skill first. no point for newbie buy good tool if dunno how to utilize them.
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post Jan 21 2011, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 21 2011, 05:46 PM)
They (as in after listening from few people) say Raw puerh can be divided into 3 category of age.
1 to 10 - young
11 to 30 - old
30 and above - vintage

How fast the tea age really depends on the way you store it. If by proper storage in Malaysia, they say big change is every 5 years. There will be some charge in between, but mostly Ups and Downs of the tea. Some say during raining season, it is usually not so nice to drink... Unfortunately, there is no exact pattern of the is Ups and Downs...

If you have limited budget, then I advised you not to buy 1 toong. Save the money and buy 2 or 3 pieces. Drink/Sample it slowly. Then buy other types of tea and Drink/Sample it too. By doing this, you get to learn more and it can take a long time to finish it. 1 piece can even last you many years. Even just Raw Puerh itself, there are many types of taste profile. Don't dump all your money into 1 toong (if you have limited budget).

Dong Dao Ru Kiln ah... didn't use them these days... more of a display item now... that is because I found out clay based teapots are nicer to brew and taste better. Previously us the dong dao mostly for Ripe puerh. Quite good and smooth.

Which type of clay is suitable for puerh and what is the outcome, I did a summary of my experiment at Tacha. We brewed same tea in different pots to test the result:-
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=37873927

Btw, I'm planning to go Tacha again tomorrow noon. PM me, if you wan to meet up there smile.gif
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i just thinking to buy only, still undecide yet. i just worry if i buy 2/3 piece, later find it good then hard to buy it again

right now i almost everyday also drink tea, one time can consume ~5gram, one piece 357g 3month also gone jor if fast drink.

i also drink others ripe pu er, oolong (mostly shui xian, da hong pao). raw pu er meant for keeping long, if i keeping when i young, so next time when i old jor, no need drink expensive tea. tongue.gif

the article i read liao also blur blur rclxub.gif still learning on the taste of good/bad tea. tools i wont touch it unless i think when im ready.

all my tool cheap pa lang one.. from qiu xiang, purple cane.... whistling.gif

sure. but tomorrow i dunno what time i free yet. lets depand on "yuen fan" , if we can meet then is good.

i will go complex selangor tomorrow also..regularly i visit there to drink oolong tea.
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post Jan 21 2011, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 21 2011, 05:54 PM)
Tacha is more targeted for season drinker cause their tea is of high premium quality which also means more expensive. For newbie, I would suggest go to Tea-Li cause they got more variety of tea and they are selling wholesale price for the famous brand.

Tea in general got no expiry date. The best tea for natural fermentation is Puer tea. If you got a chance to taste a 50 year old puer tea, then you will know why it is worth storing young puer tea for future consumption.

For teapot, in general, zisha is used for puer and zhuni is for oolong tea. However, there is no fixed usage. If you got only 1 teapot, then use it for all types of tea. Sometimes, I used porcelain gaiwan to brew as well.
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Tea-Li i been there before (serdang branch).

basically i found they are selling things cheaper then others. that day i bought one KamJove heater, compare other place charge 20-30% more. ohmy.gif

i only have one zhi sa teapot, all oolong tea still using gaiwan rolleyes.gif .
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post Jan 21 2011, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 21 2011, 06:16 PM)
Don't worry. There is always something better. Moreover, that piece you mention is good but not great  hmm.gif  So there are more choices... Anyway, up2u  nod.gif

I also buy puerh with the intention to keep for retirement in 20 years time. Then get to drink old tea without spending  rclxms.gif

If you see a guy at early 30s, with long hair... then that is probably me  whistling.gif
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oh long hair , i know liao..easy recognize icon_idea.gif

if you see a thin chinese with big eye, 30s that is probably me rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 21 2011, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 21 2011, 06:21 PM)
If you from USJ, you can go to Summit groundfloor. There is a tea shop there and the uncle is quite accommodating.
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oh good to know unsure.gif

i passing by few time but not dare to walk.

because im alone, and i dont plan to buy anything too. paiseh to go in lor blush.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 22 2011, 07:37 PM)
2007 - Dayi 0772 (701) - 400g x 9 beeng

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Not a drink now tea...


Added on January 22, 2011, 9:00 pmI learned something new about Dayi's product from a friend today. According to him, from the year 2006 onwards Dayi has sticker behind the back of the beeng to distinguish whether the beeng is genuine or not.

Beside that, it has another meaning. If you see the sticker is Green, it means that it is a repeat product (eg, 7542, 7532, etc etc). But if the sticker is Purple, it means that it is 1 time product (eg, 0772 above) which will not be released again
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sorry bro~ yesterday stuck with something so i din manage to go tacha. next week you free? else we can meet up chinese new year.

for the Dayi sticker, i did some research. lets share it here.
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according to internet, since 2006, Menghai start using national standard secure sticker. The protection line should be in red color.

mind to share yours? so we can learn how to identify the real product sticker.


Added on January 23, 2011, 11:42 am
QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 23 2011, 11:06 AM)
It is behind Jln Alor. It is located besides a hotel I think called Radius. The boss is known as queen of shui xian cause she got lots of aged shui xian at her stall. Very nice lady cause she will brew anything that you wanted to try and will answer anything that you asked..Of course, you go there drink the aged shui xian tongue.gif


Added on January 23, 2011, 11:15 am

Ya. I also know about it. I heard that some shops says that their tea is the pirated version but I have checked and it is not. So good for us since their wholesale price is one of the cheapest.

USJ uncle got many teas that he sometimes did not display cause he do not want to sell at low prices. If you know him better, he might sell them to you. He got quite a few 4-5 years Dayi that I think still cheap to get now.
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nice share nod.gif i also like shui xian alot. have to visit after CNY liao~~

i get to know Tea-Li from internet search. they selling low/mid range tea. btw, i though selling expensive pirated tea only make money? low grade no need to fake gua.

one of my friend told me that what they doing is to speed up the fermented process. they put the tea on the high building which have very good air flow.

from time to time they pour water on the tea. and then selling you at higher prices as old tea. shakehead.gif

looks like USJ uncle selling good staff also.. what is the the cheapest thing in his shop? wakaka..so i go in buy cheap thing and cheat tea to drink. whistling.gif



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post Jan 23 2011, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 23 2011, 11:44 AM)
No problem... I was not at Tacha either, bump into a friend in Tea-Li (Kepong). So hangout there. Next weekend I'm in KL, so yeah we can meet up. Tentative should be Sat. If you want, we can have lunch first before going tea visiting in Jln Kepong.

I am not expert in identifying real or not, but I do take this person's post as a guideline..

Distinguishing between fake and real 2009 Menghai 7572 901
http://community.livejournal.com/puerh_tea/242928.html
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really impressive guide. good to learn and sharing.

set. next sat i will be free. let meet up around tacha area to have lunch before we go there.

i pm'ed my contact number to you so u can sms my where to meet up.
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post Jan 23 2011, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 23 2011, 12:07 PM)
Most of the pirated tea out there are usually Dayi and Xiaguan cause they are branded and can command higher price compared to other brands. Small tea producer will capitalise on the profit by using these 2 brands wrapping. Tea-Li sells a lot of Dayi and Xiaguan at lower prices and probably pissed off the big boys here.

There are many ways to make a tea to ferment faster. If you are experince drinker, you can easily know once it is in your mouth. Msia tea community is very small. If there is a shop selling fakes, I can assured you it will tapau very soon cause word of mouth is very powerful here.

USJ uncle is a friendly chap. No need to buy anything also can. Just go in look see at his stuff and he probably ask you wat tea you want. If you are new to him, he probably ask you to try his 'own' brand tea which is shuang tian and it is quite a good tea.
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thanks for sharing nod.gif i will sure go to USJ uncle when i free.
QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Jan 23 2011, 12:25 PM)
Just sharing. For genuine Dayi tea, this is how the sticker should look like under UV light:

user posted image  user posted image
But again, u probably won't carry a UV light wif u nor will the shop provide it, right? tongue.gif

Anyway, I think it's trickier to identify those produced before 2006.
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cool rclxm9.gif never know UV light can do that. i can buy 2006 later tea without kena tipu liao tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2011, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 23 2011, 05:20 PM)
Yeah I'm looking forward to meet up with you all SIFU. So next week where and what time? Btw I thought pu er tea can store for long time, other tea have expiry date. For example tik kuan yin normally valid for 2 years after packing. Msn anyone kuekwee@hotmail.com
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welcome to join.. but i not sifu blush.gif i also just start lately nia.


QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 23 2011, 07:01 PM)
Fake money people also can do, so Fake sticker you think people cannot copy? 

I heard that 2006 and 2007 have a lot of fake cause that time it is Puerh's peak. Then it stables down in 2008 onwards (which doesn't mean don't have fake).

Tea-li and JDX carries new genuine Dayi and have yet to hear people complain of fakes. But their other products... diff story. Still have to be careful for those non branded or claimed to be older pu.

I have a friend who is Dayi expert. I am learning Dayi from him... Next time can introduce you guys to him. He is available after CNY.
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good to know expert..so next time can ask him teach us stuffs. smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 25 2011, 04:11 PM)
The shop has the 9 pumpkin from big to small that can stack up.

150kg for RM15k. He said haven found some rich guy / dato to carry it home yet...
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got picture ?? hmm.gif
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post Jan 25 2011, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 25 2011, 06:11 PM)
Why you want see picture, when this Sat I can show you the real thing. The shop is a walk away from Tacha.
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doh.gif yahor.

this saturday i might bring another friend but he totally new to tea. he not confirm yet whether wan to join me or not.

just one only... because i ffk last week that wan to bring him go drink tea sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2011, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 26 2011, 03:28 PM)
after CNY lou sang + bkt + tea
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sweat.gif lou sang jor go bkt ..jia beh liao la
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post Jan 27 2011, 01:24 AM

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Added on January 27, 2011, 1:27 am
QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 26 2011, 09:06 PM)
Hot selling tea... Have to prebook, upon arrival went out of stock in a flash...

2010 - Yue Chen Yue Xiang - Dayi - 357g x 10

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How is the taste? I don't know, the shop didn't have samples as it was so hot... till they cannot even open up one for sample. I don't know when I will taste this...  yawn.gif
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branded stuffs wo.. brows.gif buy for investment~

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post Jan 29 2011, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 29 2011, 07:22 PM)
Just came back from tea tour today with Chaossisxy and kuekwee... nice hangout guys smile.gif

Next round... after CNY smile.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif nice to meet up with you guys
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post Jan 31 2011, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 30 2011, 10:14 AM)
This is pro.


Added on January 30, 2011, 2:20 pmmy new pot hor i try to use it.. the leave keep blocking the teapot..not nice when puring, wate volume and speed is damn low.  is it normal?


Added on January 30, 2011, 3:20 pmJust finish my ripe pu erh, gong ting I think. With the new pot and boiler, aroma and taste seems stronger. I start 6gram, look very little compare to how I brew previuoly. I bet the boiling eater or the pot is working well.  Now drinking ripe 2007 dayi pu erh, damn I think my mind still with  2003 bulang. After bittersweet feeling is not as strong as that, as what u say for this kind of price is damn good already.
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i heard before from the tacha lady boss, you need to shake the teapot at proper angle to avoid tea leaf stuck on the whole. maybe ur kungfu not good enough. next time when u visit them, you can learn some proper technic from them.

there is no "best" tea, but always there is a better when you have comparison. nod.gif

QUOTE(kuekwee @ Jan 31 2011, 04:40 PM)
tray is working fine. just is for fun only...will only get teapet if i can found something that really catch my eye haha..
btw rm8 for a teapot is very good already...with hot water it's still in proper form..very good quality..
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ppl will keep demanding one..now plastic tray, later on bamboo tray..then good quality wood...pre-order tea table ..bla bla bla whistling.gif
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post Feb 7 2011, 01:47 PM

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just came back from hometown~~ wish all happy chinese new year~~

during CNY i almost everyday also drink chinese tea blink.gif

most ppl like oolong because the smell, my nephew and niece (7&10yeras) like it alot and ignore my pu er. doh.gif

my mum also same..have to replenish my tea after this CNY~
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post Feb 8 2011, 11:52 AM

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i don't have XO >.<
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post Feb 15 2011, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Feb 14 2011, 11:01 PM)
2003 Qiu Xiang Raw - 500g Beeng

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My Zhuni teapot after 3 months of usage...
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your pot looks very familar la...from tacha..?? lol i think my friend also got one

i just finish 3gram of old tree shuixian @@ now cannot sleep

the 2009 pu er i told you also got smokiness taste ..i ask then how come, they say some ppl like it wo.. hmm.gif

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