Tea (Chinese/ Oriental/ Japanese /Green), Come share your experience
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 Apr 15 2010, 11:24 PM, updated 13y ago
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I heard tea is good but don't know much about it.
Any tea lovers here that can share their experience? What tea is good? Where is your fav tea shop? Edit: 19/05/2011  I have learned so much over the 1 year of tea adventuring but there are just so much more to learn and taste. I have posted my learning progress and some post may sound noobish (as I am one) so pardon me  Feel free to go through the pages and do share your experience too  This post has been edited by auhckw: May 19 2011, 10:10 PM |
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Apr 16 2010, 11:23 AM
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i *heart* tea...
which tea do u drink? |
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Apr 16 2010, 12:03 PM
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my dad's friends are all tea lovers. so i've got a tea spot in the house with everything required.
basically green tea / fresh tea (chinese = sok cha) under the chinese tea category is healthy. most helps to detoxify n keeps u alert. n some even helps on weight management. mostly, when u eat food that is oily, drinking tea helps to cleanse it up. making the throat feel better n fresher. |
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May 9 2010, 11:43 PM
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I like tea alot lol, teas like sen-cha, earl grey, lady grey...etc.
Last time tried camerion, not my cup of tea i guess, need to add milk and sugar?  but one of the problems for drinking tea is cant sleep at night if you drink it at the evening  |
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May 10 2010, 12:50 AM
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What kind of tea? Chinese tea? Japanese green tea? Boh tea?
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May 10 2010, 12:54 AM
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i just started drinking tea quite often. But it's more to chinese tea (poh lei) and japanese green tea. It helps detoxify and helps to wash/reduce the amount of oil u consume in ur tummy :/
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May 10 2010, 01:03 AM
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For green tea, try to cook it at 90 celsius, you can get that by leaving your tea pot open for about 1-2minutes before putting in your tea leaves and close it. However i still fail at noticing the taste different between 100 degree and 90degree.
Anyone like western tea here? |
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May 10 2010, 10:01 AM
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of course better for u is choose for a branded and affordable tea, with various funtion, such as burn fat, remove toxic to drink.
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May 10 2010, 07:14 PM
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I am a Japanese and Chinese tea lover. I usually take those teabags because more convenient. I've only tried Green tea, Jasmine tea, Pu Er tea, Oolong tea and Ti Kuan Yin tea.
Among all, I like most is Green Tea. Really don't quite like Pu Er and Oolong because they are dark and don't have that fresh, light taste. Can anyone recommend any tea that is similar to Green tea? I forgot how Ti Kuan Yin taste like. |
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May 10 2010, 08:10 PM
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I'm pretty much a Green Tea fanatic.
 Consume about 2 litres per day. But the way I'm brew it isn't with warm~hot water, instead I scoop 3 big table-spoon of the Green Tea leaves into a 2 litre flask, pour in about 1.8 litre of cold water and put it in the fridge for about 4+ hours. I like to drink it cold, it's very refreshing...but the main point I "cold brew" my Green Tea because the flavour tasted different than brewing it in hot water (below 90c), you can taste the earthy and organic note to it, plus I try not to compromise the nutrition of the tea, and I make sure I "brew" it long enough for the leaves to release it's oil and natural essences... About Green Tea compared to other teas ( Earl Grey, Oolong, Lipton, etc.) it gives more of this "feeling good" factor throughout the day... |
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May 10 2010, 09:08 PM
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Wow, so many tea drinkers. I have Earl Grey, English Breakfast, Chinese green tea (a few types, kept in the freezer), Ti Kuan Ying, and some Pu Er, which I bought for investment purpose and cheaper varieties for daily drinking. I generally consume more coffee (4 shots of espresso daily, with freshly roasted and freshly grind coffee beans) than tea (2x a week). |
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May 10 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(Oriental @ May 10 2010, 07:14 PM) I am a Japanese and Chinese tea lover. I usually take those teabags because more convenient. I've only tried Green tea, Jasmine tea, Pu Er tea, Oolong tea and Ti Kuan Yin tea. me too, i usually buy tea bag type for convenient's sake. Among all, I like most is Green Tea. Really don't quite like Pu Er and Oolong because they are dark and don't have that fresh, light taste. Can anyone recommend any tea that is similar to Green tea? I forgot how Ti Kuan Yin taste like.  lol to me ti kuan yin taste like its name, don't know how to describe though QUOTE(JoBigShow @ May 10 2010, 08:10 PM) I'm pretty much a Green Tea fanatic. May I know what brand are you drinking? and what is the price around? Consume about 2 litres per day. But the way I'm brew it isn't with warm~hot water, instead I scoop 3 big table-spoon of the Green Tea leaves into a 2 litre flask, pour in about 1.8 litre of cold water and put it in the fridge for about 4+ hours. I like to drink it cold, it's very refreshing...but the main point I "cold brew" my Green Tea because the flavour tasted different than brewing it in hot water (below 90c), you can taste the earthy and organic note to it, plus I try not to compromise the nutrition of the tea, and I make sure I "brew" it long enough for the leaves to release it's oil and natural essences... About Green Tea compared to other teas ( Earl Grey, Oolong, Lipton, etc.) it gives more of this "feeling good" factor throughout the day... QUOTE(newbie99 @ May 10 2010, 09:08 PM) Wow, so many tea drinkers. I have Earl Grey, English Breakfast, Chinese green tea (a few types, kept in the freezer), Ti Kuan Ying, and some Pu Er, which I bought for investment purpose and cheaper varieties for daily drinking. I generally consume more coffee (4 shots of espresso daily, with freshly roasted and freshly grind coffee beans) than tea (2x a week). What an amount  You sure know how to enjoy |
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May 11 2010, 01:13 AM
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i love drinking tea.. but when i drink it, i won't be able to sleep at night.. any solution for this?
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May 11 2010, 07:02 AM
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QUOTE(kenken85 @ May 11 2010, 01:13 AM) i love drinking tea.. but when i drink it, i won't be able to sleep at night.. any solution for this? When you drink it? Morning? If morning/noon, the effect won't last that long till sleep hours. |
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May 11 2010, 11:07 AM
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QUOTE(kenken85 @ May 11 2010, 01:13 AM) i love drinking tea.. but when i drink it, i won't be able to sleep at night.. any solution for this? Give it about 6-8hrs and the effect should wear off.. The other way is to drink tea like Pu Er, and u can sleep at night and wont get gastric problem. |
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May 11 2010, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ May 9 2010, 11:43 PM) I like tea alot lol, teas like sen-cha, earl grey, lady grey...etc. if u want to sleep at nite, try drinking the chinese fermented tea (also known as black tea). the effects are diff, very refreshing, doesn't get u hungry, n allows u to sleep.Last time tried camerion, not my cup of tea i guess, need to add milk and sugar? but one of the problems for drinking tea is cant sleep at night if you drink it at the evening just found out from someone that chamomile tea's good especially for ladies. i'm taking that a nite now. one bag (can't seem to find it loose.. pls do tell me where to get loose chamomile tea) for 2 cups. it also helps me to sleep at peace... nice smell n refreshing. day time, usually take chinese green tea. not only it helps u to detox, it also helps to clear the throat from oily food n etc. love it! |
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May 11 2010, 11:55 AM
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tea is good, good to burn your body fat, especially better for female, campare v coffe, tea is healthy
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May 12 2010, 06:35 PM
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Anybody drinks 竹叶青 before? It's from Si Chuan.
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May 13 2010, 02:13 PM
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i drink lots of chinese tea...love high class tie guan yin de most..=P and pu er..
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May 13 2010, 02:44 PM
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hey, anyone tried the Green Tea with Chamomile Flowers tea by Dilmah. Brought it from Giant just now with doubts.. but its great. refreshing, nice sweet scent n the there's this 'kam' taste that leaves ur tougue tingling for a short while (which i rarely find in english tea..usually the chinese tea only). its nice, i'd recommend this. also help for acne n detox =)~
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May 13 2010, 03:12 PM
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Tea lover reporting in
 I can't sleep if I drink too much of tea during dinner time...Especially with those "thick- thick" my favorite young" tiet kuan ying" & green tea.. |
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May 13 2010, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 11 2010, 11:08 AM) if u want to sleep at nite, try drinking the chinese fermented tea (also known as black tea). the effects are diff, very refreshing, doesn't get u hungry, n allows u to sleep. ohh i see, my first impression is that chinese black tea will disturb our sleep just found out from someone that chamomile tea's good especially for ladies. i'm taking that a nite now. one bag (can't seem to find it loose.. pls do tell me where to get loose chamomile tea) for 2 cups. it also helps me to sleep at peace... nice smell n refreshing. day time, usually take chinese green tea. not only it helps u to detox, it also helps to clear the throat from oily food n etc. love it! seldom drink chinese tea QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 13 2010, 03:12 PM) Tea lover reporting in ya lol, so i try to avoid drinking tea at evening I can't sleep if I drink too much of tea during dinner time...Especially with those "thick- thick" my favorite young" tiet kuan ying" & green tea.. |
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May 13 2010, 10:28 PM
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djcarmen-sorry what is black tea?
akira-yeap me too, I try to drink lesser u know most of when we makan at chinese restaurant they serve with chinese tea... |
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May 13 2010, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 13 2010, 10:28 PM) djcarmen-sorry what is black tea? Those Chinese tea are crap and they're getting more and more expensive for a glass.akira-yeap me too, I try to drink lesser u know most of when we makan at chinese restaurant they serve with chinese tea... |
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May 13 2010, 10:48 PM
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Which shop do you buy from?
You can consider 1 grade lower ... |
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May 14 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ May 13 2010, 09:03 PM) ohh i see, my first impression is that chinese black tea will disturb our sleep the other way around. green tea affects ur sleep. if u have insomia or u're stressed up, try chamomile tea. apparently the essence helps to calm people down and gives u good sleep. been taking it for a week, skin's getting a lil smoother and most of all, i can sleep the whole nite without waking up. seldom drink chinese tea ya lol, so i try to avoid drinking tea at evening QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 13 2010, 10:28 PM) djcarmen-sorry what is black tea? black tea are known as fermented tea. compared to green tea, i dont really enjoy the taste. its a lil darker n different taste compared to the chinese green tea.akira-yeap me too, I try to drink lesser u know most of when we makan at chinese restaurant they serve with chinese tea... QUOTE(David83 @ May 13 2010, 10:37 PM) Those Chinese tea are crap and they're getting more and more expensive for a glass. hahaha.. the longer u keep it the higher the price is. my dad's friend house have at least half a million dollars cost of tea alone (not including this teapots). |
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May 14 2010, 11:30 AM
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djcarmen sounds very experience in tea...
Should seek for more advice from you*if you dont mind* So is "O-long" consider as black tea? Where is the best place to buy tea?  |
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May 14 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 14 2010, 10:37 AM) black tea are known as fermented tea. compared to green tea, i dont really enjoy the taste. its a lil darker n different taste compared to the chinese green tea. Agree! I still prefer Green tea taste. Been trying to look for an equivalent..any recommendations? |
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May 14 2010, 02:15 PM
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I heard green tea will cause dehydration.. True?
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May 15 2010, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 14 2010, 11:30 AM) djcarmen sounds very experience in tea... u want to learn bout tea.. come to my place when my dad n his friend's around. they teach u from top to bottom on tea. i still can't figure the names of the tea.. only know black tea n green tea. LOL~ diff flavours n which is the ones i like most. =P Should seek for more advice from you*if you dont mind* So is "O-long" consider as black tea? Where is the best place to buy tea? black tea = cheng cha. green tea = sok cha. (if i'm not mistaken.  )QUOTE(Oriental @ May 14 2010, 12:41 PM) Agree! I still prefer Green tea taste. Been trying to look for an equivalent..any recommendations? chinese green tea or japanese green tea? its erm diff... but is there a outcome u're finding for in drinking tea? e.g.: detox, hormone control, doesn't get u hungry or sleepy when u drink at nite.. etc...QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 14 2010, 02:15 PM) I heard green tea will cause dehydration.. True? to a certain extend, yes. it detoxes ur body.. remember to also drink water though. its the most healthy drink u can ever find anyways. =) |
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May 15 2010, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 14 2010, 11:30 AM) So is "O-long" consider as black tea? Where is the best place to buy tea? Oolong is semi fermented tea. Tie Kuan Yin, Shui Xian etc belongs to this category. Black Tea is fully fermented. Puerh (ripe version) White tea is steamed. White Peony, Shoumei Yellow tea is stacked. Mengding Yellow bud Tea house will allow you to test the tea for FREE. No obligation. If you like the taste, then buy. You can find Chinese tea shop in Jln Petaling else in shopping centre, you can look for Purple Cane or Hojo at Gardens Mid Valley. |
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May 15 2010, 02:44 PM
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Hi all,
I love tea, and recently tasted one of the best green tea I have purchased, from Taiwan. Pretty expensive about RM 30 for 35 tea bags, but worth the money. Unfortunately I only purchased few, guess I have hunt whether it is eing sold in Malaysia. |
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May 15 2010, 03:26 PM
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Puerh can be cheap or can be very expensive. I like non-fermented puerh.
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May 15 2010, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 15 2010, 10:26 AM) chinese green tea or japanese green tea? its erm diff... but is there a outcome u're finding for in drinking tea? e.g.: detox, hormone control, doesn't get u hungry or sleepy when u drink at nite.. etc... Japanese green tea. No specific outcome..purely for taste since I enjoy drinking tea. But if I have to choose outcomes, I will go for detox. |
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May 15 2010, 09:12 PM
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I drink lipton tea plus milk in the morning
In the office, I will have hot japanese green tea love tea, but also love coffee  |
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May 15 2010, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 15 2010, 10:26 AM) u want to learn bout tea.. come to my place when my dad n his friend's around. they teach u from top to bottom on tea. i still can't figure the names of the tea.. only know black tea n green tea. LOL~ diff flavours n which is the ones i like most. =P Nope nope... very paisey my knowledge is only 1% or might be 0.1% very paisey to join your uncles black tea = cheng cha. green tea = sok cha. (if i'm not mistaken. )chinese green tea or japanese green tea? its erm diff... but is there a outcome u're finding for in drinking tea? e.g.: detox, hormone control, doesn't get u hungry or sleepy when u drink at nite.. etc... to a certain extend, yes. it detoxes ur body.. remember to also drink water though. its the most healthy drink u can ever find anyways. =) Can tell your knowledge is even better than me... Since when you started to pick up? I believe your dad must have setup a nice and cozy place for his "lim teh" session with your uncles.. QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 15 2010, 12:42 PM) Oolong is semi fermented tea. Tie Kuan Yin, Shui Xian etc belongs to this category. I like Tie Kuan Yin ,puuer, and green tea as well... Hahaha sorry limited knowledge Black Tea is fully fermented. Puerh (ripe version) White tea is steamed. White Peony, Shoumei Yellow tea is stacked. Mengding Yellow bud Tea house will allow you to test the tea for FREE. No obligation. If you like the taste, then buy. You can find Chinese tea shop in Jln Petaling else in shopping centre, you can look for Purple Cane or Hojo at Gardens Mid Valley. I heard of there are good greats of "cha wang" king tea *correct me if I'm wrong* I usually do my shopping at Purple cane, besides I will have my meal as well... |
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May 16 2010, 02:03 PM
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currently drinking NH detoxlim....trying to lose weight...kinda effective
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May 16 2010, 08:45 PM
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Where do you guys buy your Tea?
Any good / friendly shops in PJ/KL who are willing to teach newbies on which tea is good? ie tea testing, etc? |
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May 16 2010, 11:42 PM
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I usually grab mine from purple cane Mid Valley/Pudu..
I like the food there as well... |
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May 17 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(Oriental @ May 15 2010, 09:05 PM) Japanese green tea. No specific outcome..purely for taste since I enjoy drinking tea. But if I have to choose outcomes, I will go for detox. if its english tea, my recommendation would be dandelion roots. chinese tea... would be the chinese green tea. d ones i like would have this 'kam' taste where there's a tingling taste in the bud after u swallow. helps to cleanse the throat from oil n etc. but i donno whats the name of that exact tea.. not that cheap too. kinda pricy.. got it from the tea shop in Summit USJ, but we took the last set. LOL~ QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 15 2010, 10:56 PM) Nope nope... very paisey my knowledge is only 1% or might be 0.1% very paisey to join your uncles lol. i only started learning somewhere end of last year when i was out of job. was joining my dad n his friends in tea shop n tasting diff types of tea. i'll state my thoughts in each after that n they'll explain things here n there. they even talk to my friends bout tea n etc... Can tell your knowledge is even better than me... Since when you started to pick up? I believe your dad must have setup a nice and cozy place for his "lim teh" session with your uncles.. yea, have a tea place in the house. but its kinda messy, since its the tv room n the office too. we usually end up elsewhere for tea instead of the house though. QUOTE(auhckw @ May 16 2010, 08:45 PM) Where do you guys buy your Tea? i know one. SS14, Subang Jaya. the guy that owns the place is called Uncle Lee. Next to a chicken rice shop called Kar Heong (forgot the name of the tea shop.. Zheng something i think). my parents are there most of the weekday afternoon with their friends. the owner's very nice n helpful... funny too!Any good / friendly shops in PJ/KL who are willing to teach newbies on which tea is good? ie tea testing, etc? |
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May 17 2010, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 17 2010, 09:40 AM) if its english tea, my recommendation would be dandelion roots. This is the exact taste I'm trying to look for but haven't come across any! Please let me know if u remember the name of the tea. chinese tea... would be the chinese green tea. d ones i like would have this 'kam' taste where there's a tingling taste in the bud after u swallow. helps to cleanse the throat from oil n etc. but i donno whats the name of that exact tea.. not that cheap too. kinda pricy.. got it from the tea shop in Summit USJ, but we took the last set. LOL~ By the way, I don't like English tea |
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May 17 2010, 11:11 AM
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I see, end of last year.. But at least you lots of "Sifus" around, so it should be easier for you to cope up
So did you manage to find your new job?? *Sorry a little out of channel personal question, are you really a DJ* *tune back to channel* Haha my knowledge is way too far from your dad & uncle, and even you(djcarmen) as well.. So nice they willing to share their tea knowledge with your frens? Think I pretend to be your fren someday and get to try with their tea as well.. |
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May 17 2010, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 17 2010, 09:40 AM) i know one. SS14, Subang Jaya. the guy that owns the place is called Uncle Lee. Next to a chicken rice shop called Kar Heong (forgot the name of the tea shop.. Zheng something i think). my parents are there most of the weekday afternoon with their friends. the owner's very nice n helpful... funny too! Is it this Kar Heong?http://feedmelah.com/restaurant/Subang/Chi...68/#resultFocus Same row as Mobil? |
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May 17 2010, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 17 2010, 11:11 AM) I see, end of last year.. But at least you lots of "Sifus" around, so it should be easier for you to cope up Maybe get more kaki here... then can have a TT (Tea but no Tarik) gathering. So did you manage to find your new job?? *Sorry a little out of channel personal question, are you really a DJ* *tune back to channel* Haha my knowledge is way too far from your dad & uncle, and even you(djcarmen) as well.. So nice they willing to share their tea knowledge with your frens? Think I pretend to be your fren someday and get to try with their tea as well.. |
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May 17 2010, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 17 2010, 11:15 AM) Maybe get more kaki here... then can have a TT (Tea but no Tarik) gathering. Buddy good suggestion  But have to make it on the weekend, bcos I'm not in KL... |
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May 17 2010, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 17 2010, 09:40 AM) i know one. SS14, Subang Jaya. the guy that owns the place is called Uncle Lee. Next to a chicken rice shop called Kar Heong (forgot the name of the tea shop.. Zheng something i think). my parents are there most of the weekday afternoon with their friends. the owner's very nice n helpful... funny too! In Subang area, there are another 2 shops selling tea. One in USJ Summit lower ground floor and another shop called Tea Impression located in those shops at the back of Taylor college. |
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May 18 2010, 11:31 AM
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japanese green tea nice as well, even juz normal smell, but a cup of hot tea good for health~
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May 18 2010, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(Oriental @ May 17 2010, 10:36 AM) This is the exact taste I'm trying to look for but haven't come across any! Please let me know if u remember the name of the tea. i'll ask my dad when he gets back from Cameron n Malacca (haven't seen my whole family members almost for a week due to my busy leisure schedule). =) i found a slight taste of that in Dilmah's Green tea with Camomile, but i dont think u're finding for that... will check for u. By the way, I don't like English tea QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 17 2010, 11:11 AM) I see, end of last year.. But at least you lots of "Sifus" around, so it should be easier for you to cope up 1) not a dJ. that nick came out bout 8 years ago. long story. lol So did you manage to find your new job?? *Sorry a little out of channel personal question, are you really a DJ* *tune back to channel* Haha my knowledge is way too far from your dad & uncle, and even you(djcarmen) as well.. So nice they willing to share their tea knowledge with your frens? Think I pretend to be your fren someday and get to try with their tea as well.. 2) am currently working but i think i'm gonna scout for a new job. i'm a workaholic and here, i sit down n rot 70% of the week at least. haven't done anything this week yet.. just forum, facebook n msn. LOL~ feeling like a pig! 3) my dad might be fierce looking, but he's willing to talk n teach anyone that's willing to learn. kinda ego too.. so, its hard to tell him when he's in the wrong. argued bout the origins of the word "MRR2" for 30 mins once.. n when i told him the exact meaning n etc.. he kept quiet. LOL~ 4) no need to pretend la. friendship is always welcome. =) hahaha QUOTE(auhckw @ May 17 2010, 11:13 AM) yessss.. just next to it =) quite yummy too *slurps*QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 17 2010, 10:27 PM) The shop called Zhong Hua Cha. I dunno if they got english name for it. Went there once. Uncle very accommodating. Brew some tea for me to drink and mentioned no buy is also no problem. yes yes. no english name. hehe. thanx for the info! uncle lee's really nice. In Subang area, there are another 2 shops selling tea. One in USJ Summit lower ground floor and another shop called Tea Impression located in those shops at the back of Taylor college. haven't been to the one in ss15. the one in USJ, the husband's quite ok. the wife's kinda freaks me off a bit. prefer going to SS14 one =) QUOTE(abbychan87 @ May 18 2010, 11:31 AM) japanese green tea nice as well, even juz normal smell, but a cup of hot tea good for health~ especially if u're a girl, try mixing a lil chamomile tea with green tea (especially nite time). helps with stress, insomnia n etc. i drink it in office nowadays... but mine's by Dilmah. love it cause of the 'kam' taste n the fragrance on the first two glasses =) |
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May 19 2010, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 18 2010, 11:39 AM) 1) not a dJ. that nick came out bout 8 years ago. long story. lol So you should divide your 70% of your time and have a sip of your tea 2) am currently working but i think i'm gonna scout for a new job. i'm a workaholic and here, i sit down n rot 70% of the week at least. haven't done anything this week yet.. just forum, facebook n msn. LOL~ feeling like a pig! 3) my dad might be fierce looking, but he's willing to talk n teach anyone that's willing to learn. kinda ego too.. so, its hard to tell him when he's in the wrong. argued bout the origins of the word "MRR2" for 30 mins once.. n when i told him the exact meaning n etc.. he kept quiet. LOL~ 4) no need to pretend la. friendship is always welcome. =) hahaha It's ok, elderly always have that kind mind set we young people don't know anything.. Same goes to my dad, just had an argument with him couple days ago about my new ride, I told him I might be changing Toyota instead of Hyundai, but he insist Hyundai car is good... In end I kept quiet and walk away... Same right??Hahaha me too just tender early of this month so I'm not assign with any projects so quite free since 2 weeks ago another week to rot.... Sure where do you usually drink?? Let's go TT... auhckw -So when is our TT session.. This post has been edited by th3_glove20: May 19 2010, 10:35 AM |
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May 19 2010, 10:43 AM
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i dun like some chinese tea, mostly are bitter taste.. mostly drink teh or teh tarik , but teh o ais and teh o laici are the best drink !
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May 19 2010, 10:59 AM
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But some tea are good for slimming as well..
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May 19 2010, 01:35 PM
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QUOTE(aishatosh81 @ May 19 2010, 10:43 AM) i dun like some chinese tea, mostly are bitter taste.. mostly drink teh or teh tarik , but teh o ais and teh o laici are the best drink ! i dun think most chinese tea haf bitter taste lor.. bitter taste sounds more like those chinese herbal med... |
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May 19 2010, 02:33 PM
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Ya can't think of any chinese tea that are bitter in taste.
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May 19 2010, 02:49 PM
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Was having BKT lunch at Puchong just now, and next to it got a Tea house.
Bought a Tea Cup (with filter on top to hold the tea leaves -> pour hot water -> wait 2 minutes -> press button -> water goes down). The Cup is RM45, free 1 big piece of Pu-erh tea. Quite handy cup for office use.   *must be some cheap Pu-erh This post has been edited by auhckw: May 19 2010, 03:10 PM |
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May 19 2010, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 19 2010, 10:35 AM) So you should divide your 70% of your time and have a sip of your tea i spend 70% of the time now in office drinking n sipping my tea la.. LOL~ i got no work but am required to stare at nothing till 5pm each day. LOL~ It's ok, elderly always have that kind mind set we young people don't know anything.. Same goes to my dad, just had an argument with him couple days ago about my new ride, I told him I might be changing Toyota instead of Hyundai, but he insist Hyundai car is good... In end I kept quiet and walk away... Same right??Hahaha me too just tender early of this month so I'm not assign with any projects so quite free since 2 weeks ago another week to rot.... Sure where do you usually drink?? Let's go TT... auhckw -So when is our TT session.. QUOTE(aishatosh81 @ May 19 2010, 10:43 AM) i dun like some chinese tea, mostly are bitter taste.. mostly drink teh or teh tarik , but teh o ais and teh o laici are the best drink ! if chinese tea is bitter, its because its brew too long n the amount exceeded what is required. the same as other tea.. the only diff with teh n teh ais is that they put milk (+ sugar) and teh o ais n teh o laici is with sugar. literally, it taste better la.. but i hate it. LOL~QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 19 2010, 10:59 AM) But some tea are good for slimming as well.. yeap. some chinese green tea. detox + slimming. Teh tarik bad for health.... teh tarik is bad because its brewed too long n too many times. not only u do not gain the nutrients, u gain unwanted 'nutrient's in there too. QUOTE(auhckw @ May 19 2010, 02:49 PM) Was having BKT lunch at Puchong just now, and next to it got a Tea house. try n u will know. i think i need to get that soon too.. i broke 2 of mine *ops* so gonna be killed.. LOL~Bought a Tea Cup (with filter on top to hold the tea leaves -> pour hot water -> wait 2 minutes -> press button -> water goes down). The Cup is RM45, free 1 big piece of Pu-erh tea. Quite handy cup for office use. P/S: anyone knows where to get the loose version of chamomile tea? i'm kinda scrolling everywhere finding for those... |
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May 19 2010, 03:49 PM
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auhckw I do have that in my office as well...It's easy & fast....
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May 19 2010, 04:00 PM
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For those that are interested on chinese tea, there is a Tea Art & Cultural Expo at Tropicana City Mall on June 18-27. Free admission
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May 19 2010, 05:33 PM
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ooo..maybe go see..
my cousin once bought a super high class tea.. change water whole day still got taste..  |
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May 19 2010, 10:50 PM
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Was browsing, and this seems to be very worth
 Source: http://shopping.purplecane.my/goods.php?id=87 Date: 19/05/2010 Time: 10:49PM If this is like Dell case would be good... Misprint, and ppl ordered.. they have to deliver. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 19 2010, 10:50 PM |
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May 20 2010, 12:32 AM
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Cool! You order it and can share with us here cause you can't consume 100KG
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May 20 2010, 10:54 AM
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I'm a member of Purplecane can purchase with membership discount...
Do you need help? |
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May 20 2010, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 19 2010, 03:49 PM) auhckw I do have that in my office as well...It's easy & fast.... i used to.. i broke it. now, office.. tea bags. easier! home.. that's when the loose ones comes..PS: i got my chamomile tea already. RM12 for 30gms in carrefour. haven't tried it.. will try it when i finish the teabags. |
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May 20 2010, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 20 2010, 11:03 AM) i used to.. i broke it. now, office.. tea bags. easier! home.. that's when the loose ones comes.. I broke the 1 at home as well, the layer of glass is too thin... I broke mine when I'm washing it luckily I didn't get cut PS: i got my chamomile tea already. RM12 for 30gms in carrefour. haven't tried it.. will try it when i finish the teabags. How much you bought yours? Mine was RM50+ *If I'm not wrong* |
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May 20 2010, 12:00 PM
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I bought some green tea @ Hojo
Will snap some photos tonight The green tea tasted like sea weed. Smooth. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 27 2010, 05:01 PM |
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May 20 2010, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 20 2010, 12:00 PM) I bought some green tea @ Hoji Hey sounds good... I love green tea... Gyokuro jap green tea http://hojotea.com/item_e/g04e.htm 100 gram @ RM240 Kangane jap green tea 100 gram @ RM88 Chrsanthmum 100 gram @ RM58 Will snap some photos tonight The green tea tasted like sea weed. Smooth. But I heard try not to drink too much of green tea.. True? |
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May 20 2010, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 20 2010, 12:08 PM) Hey sounds good... I love green tea... Well, i heard ppl advise b4...But I heard try not to drink too much of green tea.. True? However good it is, don't consume too much and consistently. Good can become bad... So now i got 4 types of tea... can diversify Added on May 20, 2010, 12:12 pmThe sales person at Hojo (Gardens Mid Valley) is very friendly. Gave many trial. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 27 2010, 05:02 PM |
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May 20 2010, 12:13 PM
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a common quetion, tea can replace water to drink ? drink daily..
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May 20 2010, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 20 2010, 12:10 PM) Well, i heard ppl advise b4... However good it is, don't consume too much and consistently. Good can become bad... So now i got 4 types of tea... can diversify Added on May 20, 2010, 12:12 pmThe sales person at Hojo (Gardens Mid Valley) is very friendly. Gave many trial. Unfortunately for me, the RM88 and RM240 tasted the same. I have not reached the level of differencing the quality of tea yet. May someday we can meet up and bulk buy... I do keep some stock in the office as well... QUOTE(aishatosh81 @ May 20 2010, 12:13 PM) a common quetion, tea can replace water to drink ? drink daily.. Yes you can depending on which kind of tea as well, like what we've mentioned green tea not good to consume daily..*I supposed, correct me if I'm wrong..* |
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May 20 2010, 12:33 PM
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then which brand can consume daily ?
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May 20 2010, 02:30 PM
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Some good read...
Green Tea Side Effects Warnings! Advice To New Drinkers http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/green-tea-side-effects.html Too Much Green Tea 3 Reasons Why It Is Harmful http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/drinking-...-green-tea.html How to Drink Green Tea Without the Side Effects http://www.wikihow.com/Drink-Green-Tea-Wit...he-Side-Effects Not sure whether it applies to all Tea, but guess like the site says... don't overdose yourself. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 20 2010, 02:32 PM |
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May 20 2010, 03:00 PM
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Thanks auhckw, time to do some homework...
 What tea are sipping today??  |
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May 20 2010, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 20 2010, 11:57 AM) I broke the 1 at home as well, the layer of glass is too thin... I broke mine when I'm washing it luckily I didn't get cut can't remember..but its been quite long ago. n since i stayed back in subang, i have all the items at home. so i dont really need that. How much you bought yours? Mine was RM50+ *If I'm not wrong* QUOTE(aishatosh81 @ May 20 2010, 12:13 PM) a common quetion, tea can replace water to drink ? drink daily.. its fine to drink daily but have a limit. some tea can dehydrate u instead.the amount i drink each day is a max of 6 cup between the morning to evening in office. that's green tea with chamomile or peppermint tea. n at nite, 2 cups of chamomile tea to help me sleep. weekends, rarely take tea at all except at nite. =P |
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May 20 2010, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 20 2010, 03:00 PM) Thanks auhckw, time to do some homework... Today, some green tea (from the tea testing) and few cups Pu-erh tea. What tea are sipping today?? Yesterday I drank about 6 cups of Pu-erh tea. The after taste effect lasted till this morning. And yesterday night do big biz also like greenish. Maybe Detox effect output gua  |
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May 20 2010, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 20 2010, 03:09 PM) can't remember..but its been quite long ago. n since i stayed back in subang, i have all the items at home. so i dont really need that. I see.. We only use that during office hour hehe faster and easier, as I don't sit in a room small cubicle only limited space so that's the fastest and easier way to get your tea ready and SIPPPP!!!!! Ahh... You drink during weekend with your dad? I usually drink alone while listening/watching movies at home alone...  QUOTE(auhckw @ May 20 2010, 03:21 PM) Today, some green tea (from the tea testing) and few cups Pu-erh tea. Yesterday I drank about 6 cups of Pu-erh tea. The after taste effect lasted till this morning. And yesterday night do big biz also like greenish. Maybe Detox effect output gua greenish effect!!! Hahaha it's good though detox your stomach..But my mug tend to turn greenish at the side after drinking green no matter how hard i scrub...  This post has been edited by th3_glove20: May 20 2010, 03:45 PM |
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May 20 2010, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 20 2010, 03:45 PM) I see.. We only use that during office hour hehe faster and easier, as I don't sit in a room small cubicle only limited space so that's the fastest and easier way to get your tea ready and SIPPPP!!!!! used to do that when i was working else where. now i have 2 tables + 1 set of drawers, its easier to do anything. kekeke... Ahh... You drink during weekend with your dad? I usually drink alone while listening/watching movies at home alone... yea. but not weekends only la. usually after meals at home or we'll go to the tea shop. but we use the chinese tea cups then.. wont be much la. |
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May 20 2010, 11:19 PM
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HOJO Japanese World Premium Tea
http://hojotea.com/indexe.html      Gyokuro - King of Japanese Green Tea http://hojotea.com/item_e/g04e.htm     |
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May 23 2010, 04:30 PM
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Went HOJO again, and this is what I bought:-
Tachi Masaki - Banko Yaki (Japan Purple Clay)  More photos here:- http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1432966&st= |
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May 24 2010, 10:05 AM
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Good morning to everybody
Buddy very nice tea set you have there... How much it cost you for the whole set and the tea? |
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May 24 2010, 10:14 AM
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~Removed~
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May 24 2010, 07:31 PM
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RM 880 pot? What a dear pot is that!
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May 24 2010, 07:36 PM
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purple clay pot is very sought after for chinese/jap tea.
i prefer tea bags and herbal tea. currently alternating verbena tea and lady grey tea and also drinking jasmine green tea everyday as it's good for health. |
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May 24 2010, 08:39 PM
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1) Purple Clay material = Makes the green tea / some other tea taste better. I compared side by side (same tea, same pot, same batch, one drink from purple clay cup and one normal glass), yes it differs.
2) Made in Japan 3) Hand made by Tachi Masaki (well known person for making it, hand made and not mass production). 4) 2 chop = tougher / more detail design This post has been edited by auhckw: May 27 2010, 04:58 PM |
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May 24 2010, 08:46 PM
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After some digging, seems like it is recommended to have 1 pot for 1 tea to max out the performance of the tea and pot.
Didn't know that So, I went and bought this. Glassware. Neutral for all kinds of tea.  |
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May 24 2010, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 24 2010, 08:39 PM) 1) Purple Clay material = Makes the green tea / some other tea taste better. I compared side by side (same tea, same pot, same batch, one drink from purple clay cup and one normal glass), yes it differs. Seems like Hojo already increased the price. You are paying more for the artistic value of the teapot rather than the purple clay material. With that price, I can get at least 2 of the same quality but made in China 2) Made in Japan 3) Hand made by Tachi Masaki (well known person for making it, hand made and not mass production). 4) 2 chop = tougher / more detail design |
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May 24 2010, 11:26 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 24 2010, 11:03 PM) Seems like Hojo already increased the price. You are paying more for the artistic value of the teapot rather than the purple clay material. With that price, I can get at least 2 of the same quality but made in China At the near future, I doubt I will be buying a lot of pots, so buy 1 'artistic' wan enough lo.Today just drank Wild White Tea Bud. Got the samples, taste good and have after taste. If you like chrysanthemum, this tea has quite similar aroma. PS: Found an Informative Tea Class: http://www.teaclass.com/ This post has been edited by auhckw: May 27 2010, 04:57 PM |
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May 25 2010, 03:09 AM
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Purple clay Teapot is actually not recommended for brewing tea such as green tea, oolong etc because the material can actually absorb odour - good or bad. It may decrease the nice aroma if use with such teapot. It is best to use porcelain teapot.
Purple clay teapot is best use with puer tea which is a drink that I drank everyday |
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May 25 2010, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 25 2010, 03:09 AM) Purple clay Teapot is actually not recommended for brewing tea such as green tea, oolong etc because the material can actually absorb odour - good or bad. It may decrease the nice aroma if use with such teapot. It is best to use porcelain teapot. Hojo recommends it, and seems like many other on the net says the same wor Purple clay teapot is best use with puer tea which is a drink that I drank everyday Frankly, I tried comparing green tea with and without using purple clay. The difference is only very little to my tongue but with purple clay it goes smoother. Not sure whether it is a placebo effect cause people said it is better. My taste buds ain't that good yet. Maybe when learn how to drink more, hopefully will improve. |
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May 25 2010, 09:01 AM
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auhckw, you seem cash loaded. You paid more than RM 1k for the whole tea set!
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May 25 2010, 09:12 AM
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No la. 'Seem' only.
Actually, since I have decided to drink proper / good tea might as well do it nicely. I doubt I will buy many pots, so get a nice wan to collect/display while enjoying it. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 27 2010, 05:04 PM |
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May 25 2010, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 25 2010, 08:12 AM) Hojo recommends it, and seems like many other on the net says the same wor A good purple clay can enhance the water to make it smooth. Old tea cup can also have the same effect. I have tried with Qing and Ming dynasty cup and it is very obvious the water turns smooth when compare with newer tea cup. I think it is time you spend again Frankly, I tried comparing green tea with and without using purple clay. The difference is only very little to my tongue but with purple clay it goes smoother. Not sure whether it is a placebo effect cause people said it is better. My taste buds ain't that good yet. Maybe when learn how to drink more, hopefully will improve. |
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May 25 2010, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ May 25 2010, 10:20 AM) A good purple clay can enhance the water to make it smooth. Old tea cup can also have the same effect. I have tried with Qing and Ming dynasty cup and it is very obvious the water turns smooth when compare with newer tea cup. I think it is time you spend again Cannot liao (for this month). Kena yellow card from wife already. Today's sip: Rose Damascena A bit too flowerish... not my kind. Rose Damascena http://hojotea.com/newsletter/NL_malaysia_5.html » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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May 25 2010, 02:19 PM
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Wao... Now I get to know more about Purple clay tea pot... Thanks guys...
Someday we should have a small TT.. What is your say gurus? *auhckw you must be extra caution while washing your tea pot... |
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May 25 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE(th3_glove20 @ May 25 2010, 02:19 PM) Wao... Now I get to know more about Purple clay tea pot... Thanks guys... I'm ok on weekends, but we need to find a location also where to TT cause need to have space, electric for kettle to make hot water, need to bring 'proper' water not unfiltered air paip from tandas Someday we should have a small TT.. What is your say gurus? *auhckw you must be extra caution while washing your tea pot...  , kettle, etcSo any suggestion for a location? |
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May 25 2010, 05:56 PM
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Best water is to get from top hill or "mata air".
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May 26 2010, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 25 2010, 05:56 PM) Best water is to get from top hill or "mata air". Are you suggesting TT at Genting or Cameron? At times, I saw people put bottle at the pipe near the hill side collecting water. |
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May 26 2010, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 26 2010, 12:01 AM) Are you suggesting TT at Genting or Cameron? Cameron water is polluted IIRC. Last year, TV3 got exposed some real stories whereby the water source is polluted with human shit from those illegal foreign squatters. Not sure if this has been rectified. At times, I saw people put bottle at the pipe near the hill side collecting water. |
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May 26 2010, 09:32 AM
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clay teapots are good for green tea n fermented tea. it brings out a stronger fragrant n flavour from the tea.
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May 26 2010, 11:24 AM
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No choice guys, we have no choice to user filter water than...
Any good suggestion for venue? |
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May 26 2010, 04:05 PM
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First time making my own green tea (Karigane) = Failed.
I used my glass teaware, and the problem is, the green tea got stuck in the inner filter. Water won't flow out. Ended up with over brewed bitter green tea.  The glassware is so hot. Burnt my hand holding it while panicking why water wont come out. Nearly broke the glass. Another problem now is with the inner filter, there are a lot of small pieces of the greens in the hole and it wont come out. What a disaster... have to practice more and find the right tools to do the right tea. Now I am trying to brew 1 liter of cold green tea. Put 2 tablesppon of it in 1 liter of water. Hope this will be better for such a hot day these days. This post has been edited by auhckw: May 26 2010, 04:08 PM |
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May 27 2010, 12:03 AM
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never recommend anyone to drink cold tea.
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May 27 2010, 12:05 AM
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i just drink monkey tea
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May 27 2010, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 27 2010, 12:03 AM) never recommend anyone to drink cold tea. You meant those we can order from Chinese kopitiam? |
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May 27 2010, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 27 2010, 12:05 AM) You meant those we can order from Chinese kopitiam? any type of tea to be precise... |
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May 27 2010, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(djcarmen @ May 27 2010, 12:06 AM) any type of tea to be precise... I think ok to drink cold tea for such a hot weather these days... I tried google, but cannot find disadvantages / harm from drinking cold tea.The benefit of cold water brewing is tea can last for a whole day and the taste is refreshing with a natural sweetness. Thanks to the cold water extraction, the level of caffeine in tea is very low. You would not suffer from sleepless nights. Even kids can enjoy this tea. Source Cold Tea Vs Hot Tea Health Benefits How Long Can You Keep or Steep? http://www.amazing-green-tea.com/cold-tea.html# *info above is on green tea... not sure about other tea. |
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May 27 2010, 01:48 AM
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Tea that is cold is Ok to drink but don't add ice to it.
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May 27 2010, 07:37 AM
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>>>The benefit of cold water brewing is tea can last for a whole day and the taste is refreshing with a natural sweetness. Thanks to the cold water extraction, the level of caffeine in tea is very low. You would not suffer from sleepless nights. Even kids can enjoy this tea.
Like not accurate. Had the cold green tea after dinner about 9pm. It was very good. But me and wife couldn't sleep. Haha. |
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May 27 2010, 11:37 AM
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but normally after i drink tea, i cound'nt sleep at night.. even though caffein is lower but still enough to kill me..
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May 27 2010, 11:38 AM
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Just got this forwarded email.
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May 27 2010, 04:07 PM
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humm.. well, maybe no cold tea after during n after food. lolx.
but again, ppl like me that have issues wiht my lungs cant really take cold tea or any cold drinks to be precise (although i still do it sometimes, n suffer from the effects later..) i can drink any green tea n still sleep. *oink oink* |
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May 27 2010, 09:57 PM
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Was digging for more info on purple clay...
http://vnet.vn/Business/?v=2&b=5757&ProductID=25051 What is Purple clay Purple Clay can only be found in China, and almost all of that comes from Yixing, Jiangsu Province. A unique mineral resource of China, Purple Clay is deeply hidden in hillside strata. Its mineral compositions include Mica, Kaolin, Quartz and Iron. Scientific researches indicate that purple clay does not contain any elements harmful for human body and is a kind of purely natural soft clay, without environmental pollution. Application of Purple Clay Nowadays, Purple Clay is widely used in two main field, one is for tea brewing and the second is for cooking. So it is widely used in tea ware, teapot, tea mug, cooking pot, heating plate, rice cooker, slow cooker, soup pots, etc etc. Purple clay tea ware( teapot and tea mug) as superior to all other types of teapots for brewing tea. Because the teapot will retains the porous nature after firing, which is excellent at absorbing the flavor and aroma of the tea. After long term use, the teapot will enhances the taste, color and aroma of the tea. Legend has it that if a purple clay teapot has been used for a long time, one can simply pour hot water into the teapot to brew a cup of tea. Purple Clay cooking tools are widely used in daily cooking now, because of its perfect performance on transferring heat equally, anti-acid and anti-alkali, will not destroy the structure of food’s nutrition and will not have the chemical reaction between food and material of inner pot, so it can preserve the original tastes and nutrition of the food. Scientific research of Purple Clay From scientific research, purple clay does not contain lead, arsenic, cadmium, chromium, and other toxic materials which do harm to human healthy, whereas the research proves that purple clay contains SiO2, Al2O3, Fe2O3, MgO, CaO… these minerals are so good for healthy, such as control high blood pressure, limit complications of congestive heart failure,prevent diabetes complications and ease muscle cramps, aches and pains etc. Purple Clay has also been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), to be safe for use, and possess a high standard of quality. |
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May 30 2010, 01:34 AM
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The purple clay nowadays are not pure but rather mix with other clay since China already disallow the digging. That is why old purple clay teapot are highly desirable among tea drinker.
A good purple clay will have shiny glow if continuous using it and taking care of it. |
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May 30 2010, 04:21 PM
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Ya, nowadays a lot of not pure things. Have to be more careful when it is coming from China.
I was drinking my Pu-erh (free when buying my mug) and the coloring is quite brownish. Entah don't know got put coloring or not. That is why I am sourcing around for premium tea or trusted vendor... |
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May 30 2010, 04:59 PM
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Could it be recycled or fake Puerh?
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May 30 2010, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 30 2010, 04:21 PM) Ya, nowadays a lot of not pure things. Have to be more careful when it is coming from China. Ripe Puer is dark in colour. It is normal. If there are colouring, by the 3rd brew, the water probably turns white. I was drinking my Pu-erh (free when buying my mug) and the coloring is quite brownish. Entah don't know got put coloring or not. That is why I am sourcing around for premium tea or trusted vendor... Fake tea does not means it is not using tea leaves. Puer tea is from Yunnna province. Fake one could be mix with tea from nearby Laos or Myanmar as price is cheaper there. For famous brand, there are always chance you can get fake if you do not know how to spot them. |
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May 31 2010, 11:15 AM
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is the cigaratte tea make from nikotin ? look like a subsitute of cigrate
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May 31 2010, 04:29 PM
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are we talkin bout chinese tea or wat?
id sure like to try those cigarreteas |
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Jun 5 2010, 09:10 PM
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Drinking hot tea in cold weather is so enjoyable
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Jun 7 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ May 30 2010, 04:21 PM) Ya, nowadays a lot of not pure things. Have to be more careful when it is coming from China. From what I was told, most of the better/best/investment grade Pu-erh tea leaves were bought by two parties in Penang. The have been hogging the tea leaves for many years. They initially went around Malaysia and China to accumulate Pu-erh leaves (the better grade ones) when ppl still dont really keen on Pu-erh. Then a year or two later, one taiwanese doctor wrote in article that Pu-erh is good for the heart, and ppl started to rush to buy Pu-erh. They made millions from the tea by selling them back to China. One guy bought a house just to stock his Pu-erh tea.. Most of the Pu-erh sold in the market now are not the very expensive grade.I was drinking my Pu-erh (free when buying my mug) and the coloring is quite brownish. Entah don't know got put coloring or not. That is why I am sourcing around for premium tea or trusted vendor... According to Pu-erh sellers in China, Penang is the place to go if you want good grade Pu-erh. This post has been edited by newbie99: Jun 7 2010, 12:25 PM |
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jun 7 2010, 12:19 PM) From what I was told, most of the better/best/investment grade Pu-erh tea leaves were bought by two parties in Penang. The have been hogging the tea leaves for many years. They initially went around Malaysia and China to accumulate Pu-erh leaves (the better grade ones) when ppl still dont really keen on Pu-erh. Then a year or two later, one taiwanese doctor wrote in article that Pu-erh is good for the heart, and ppl started to rush to buy Pu-erh. They made millions from the tea by selling them back to China. One guy bought a house just to stock his Pu-erh tea.. Most of the Pu-erh sold in the market now are not the very expensive grade. There are much speculation and price of Puer tea reach its peak around 2006 and by 2007, the bubble burst and now price is back at where they are once before 2006. According to Pu-erh sellers in China, Penang is the place to go if you want good grade Pu-erh. Grading on puer tea is fairly complicated as it depends on the type of tree, estate, plucking season and blending. Besides this, famous tea factory such as Dayi will command higher price. As for me, I always look for tea leaves from arbor tree or tea cake with popular formula such as 7542. Price of puer tea will appreciate as time goes by as it will taste better with aging. So, it is not a surprise to know many people kept for future appreciation. I even know some rich businessman have a shipping container stuff with tea |
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Jun 10 2010, 02:45 PM
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I love tea .Must drink at least a cup of tea everyday.
Green tea,sencha, English breakfast tea and darjeeling tea are the best |
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Jun 10 2010, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(kenken85 @ May 11 2010, 01:13 AM) i love drinking tea.. but when i drink it, i won't be able to sleep at night.. any solution for this? try herbal tea like ROSE tea.... |
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Jun 10 2010, 09:04 PM
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I don't know whether it is coincidence or not, I took 1 liter of karigane green tea everyday for 1 week+. Ended up whole mouth full of ulcers. At least 5 biji. So painful. Have stopped for 2 days already, hope will recover soon
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Jun 11 2010, 08:07 AM
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I love Pokka Mango Tea & Lychee Tea ~ so so niceee ~
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Jun 11 2010, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 10 2010, 09:04 PM) I don't know whether it is coincidence or not, I took 1 liter of karigane green tea everyday for 1 week+. Ended up whole mouth full of ulcers. At least 5 biji. So painful. Have stopped for 2 days already, hope will recover soon You should take green tea in moderation. I do not recommend you drink them everyday. |
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Jun 12 2010, 01:24 AM
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Puer tea from Yuannan CHina and the famous tea from FUzhou !!
simple taste PURE.. and great taste |
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Jun 14 2010, 05:17 PM
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I am a big fan of tea. I like to mostly Lemon tea,green tea foe heath and brown tea. I always to take brown tea in the morning, I really like that test I am addict of this tea, I take green tea three time in a week. I like to eat lemon tea in the summer because its become very cool my summer day.
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Jun 15 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 10 2010, 09:04 PM) I don't know whether it is coincidence or not, I took 1 liter of karigane green tea everyday for 1 week+. Ended up whole mouth full of ulcers. At least 5 biji. So painful. Have stopped for 2 days already, hope will recover soon u must be drinking green tea n no water involved. LOL~haven't had that but i usually drink one or two normal cup or a pot or two with my dad at home. so thats the max i'd go. |
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Jun 15 2010, 12:04 PM
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5 days since I last post that. Today, almost 95% of the ulcers are gone. During the last few days took chrysanthemum, and today back to the green tea.
I got drink water also la At least 3 to 4 liters per day. So 1 liter of green tea is still less than water intake. |
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Jun 16 2010, 01:14 AM
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Darjeeling Tea and Pu'Er Tea lover here
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Jun 16 2010, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(JunWisewar @ Jun 16 2010, 01:14 AM) Darjeeling Tea and Pu'Er Tea lover here What teapot do u use to drink your Pu-Er? Zi sha? |
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Jun 17 2010, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jun 16 2010, 11:55 AM) What teapot do u use to drink your Pu-Er? Zi sha? Yup, way better than the porcelain/glass tea pot and tea cups. My zi sha tea pot and tea cups are kinda small though. Hope to get a bigger tea pot and tea cups when found a suitable replacement |
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Jun 17 2010, 09:24 AM
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QUOTE(JunWisewar @ Jun 17 2010, 01:32 AM) Yup, way better than the porcelain/glass tea pot and tea cups. My zi sha tea pot and tea cups are kinda small though. Hope to get a bigger tea pot and tea cups when found a suitable replacement Where did you get your zi sha tea pot from? Teashop? I just bought one, a 'muo luni', not for drinking, more as shelf-decoration type. Thinking of buying one to use everyday. |
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Jun 17 2010, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jun 17 2010, 09:24 AM) Where did you get your zi sha tea pot from? Teashop? I just bought one, a 'muo luni', not for drinking, more as shelf-decoration type. Thinking of buying one to use everyday. I got them from teashop and also from friends who are collectors. The tea expo starts tomorrow at Tropicana City Mall. Some nice teapot are for sale but in limited quantity. You can check them out here http://www.teaworld2u.com/ |
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Jun 17 2010, 12:40 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 17 2010, 12:03 PM) I got them from teashop and also from friends who are collectors. The tea expo starts tomorrow at Tropicana City Mall. Some nice teapot are for sale but in limited quantity. You can check them out here http://www.teaworld2u.com/ Thanks. Probably wont go there as it's too far from my house. I dont reside in KL. |
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Jun 17 2010, 01:31 PM
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Thanks for the reminder. Will go there see look see look.
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Jun 17 2010, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 17 2010, 12:03 PM) I got them from teashop and also from friends who are collectors. The tea expo starts tomorrow at Tropicana City Mall. Some nice teapot are for sale but in limited quantity. You can check them out here http://www.teaworld2u.com/ Sounds like a great place to be. I'll try dropping there if I am free tomorrow.Back to the topic. I'll usually drink Japanese Green Tea or either Taiwan Alpine Tea at least once a day and 6 times a week. It helps to cleanse my body since I'm working outside and am consuming lots of hawker stall food during lunch time. |
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Jun 17 2010, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(night @ Jun 17 2010, 04:27 PM) Sounds like a great place to be. I'll try dropping there if I am free tomorrow. Will be good if you can share where you buy your tea also Back to the topic. I'll usually drink Japanese Green Tea or either Taiwan Alpine Tea at least once a day and 6 times a week. It helps to cleanse my body since I'm working outside and am consuming lots of hawker stall food during lunch time. |
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Jun 19 2010, 05:47 PM
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Just came back from the tea expo... and wow... really a lot of tea vendors there... too many until don't know which to go
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Jun 19 2010, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 19 2010, 05:47 PM) Just came back from the tea expo... and wow... really a lot of tea vendors there... too many until don't know which to go Did you get any teapot or tea leaves? I am trying to get a zisha teapot for my PuEr. |
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Jun 19 2010, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(newbie99 @ Jun 19 2010, 08:53 PM) Did you get any teapot or tea leaves? I am trying to get a zisha teapot for my PuEr. Nope didn't buy anything nor try, was carrying baby. So just pass by see look see look. So many booths, don't know which to stop. So many teas, So many pots.I think I have to find time to go again... |
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Aug 1 2010, 08:39 PM
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Just stocked up today at Hojo today:-
Asahina Gyokuro http://hojotea.com/item_e/g04e.htm Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-er Produced: 2009 (spring)    A nice read about The Myth and Truth of Pu-erh http://hojotea.com/article_e/puerh_e.htm This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 8 2010, 11:01 PM |
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QUOTE(segaraga @ May 27 2010, 12:05 AM) i just drink monkey tea monkey tea??? what is that?? |
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Aug 2 2010, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 1 2010, 08:39 PM) Just stocked up today at Hojo today:- Goodness. That is way too expensive for fermented puer tea. No wonder Hojo could survive in Gardens.Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-er RM250 / 250g Produced: 2010 |
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Aug 6 2010, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 2 2010, 11:53 PM) Goodness. That is way too expensive for fermented puer tea. No wonder Hojo could survive in Gardens. I've emailed and asked more details about this tea:Question: Meng Ku is the factory name right? So, from which mountain is the tea leaves that I bought? Reply: You are right about Meng Ku being a mountain, it is located in the south west part of Yunnan in a area called Cang Lin Shi 沧临市, close to border next to Burma. Meng Ku is located at altitude 2200-2750m, considered one of the highest altitude that produces pu-erh tea. This place is known for its vast area of ancient wild tea trees grown all over the forest area. For this particular Meng Ku raw pu-erh, tealeaves are plucked from 150 years old tea tree(grown in the wild). |
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Aug 6 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE("kotapura") This store is selling new tea at wholesale price. http://tea-li.com/index.php Unfortunately site is in Chinese but navigation should not be a problem since they only carry a few famous brand. This will gives you an idea on the price that are going around in Malaysia. I have check on their Dayi and there are no fakes. I was introduce to this http://tea-li.com/index.php So I went to their Serdang branch today. Bought this:    They said this is promo price, selling below market price to attract people to come. Link: http://tea-li.com/goods.php?id=119 They have quite a lot of teas. They said they are doing wholesale. Their teas are cheap. Frankly I see the price I was like (err is this real?). They have 7542 year 2001 @ RM150 / USD47. If buy 2 pieces, free 1 piece. Took some samples   This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 8 2010, 12:09 AM |
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Aug 8 2010, 12:27 AM
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Aug 8 2010, 06:45 PM
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I will post the cover (original wrapper) of the Pu-erh later on.
I tested all 3 of em today and compared side by side. My humble/noobish review. All 3 were great, but if were to rate in sequence, Flavor (from highest to lowest) -Mi Di (2010 - spring) -Lao Ban Zhang (2005 spring - but packed in 2006) -Meng Ku (2009 - spring) After Taste (from highest to lowest) -Lao Ban Zhang (2005 spring - but packed in 2006) -Mi Di (2010 - spring) -Meng Ku (2009 - spring) I was asked to drink in the sequence from Meng Ku -> Lao Ban Zhang -> Mi Di. This is a good sequence. Menku was the lightest in terms of the flavor. It has good after taste. But after drinking Lao Ban Zhang, it was clear that LBZ flavor and after taste was better. Last was Mi Di, and it shows stronger flavor but after taste weaker than LBZ. I was served using Shigaraki Clay. They go through hot water from this clay into a glass pot. This clay is amazing. Just tasting the water itself from the Shigaraki Clay, the water was sweeter. |
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Aug 8 2010, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jun 10 2010, 09:04 PM) I don't know whether it is coincidence or not, I took 1 liter of karigane green tea everyday for 1 week+. Ended up whole mouth full of ulcers. At least 5 biji. So painful. Have stopped for 2 days already, hope will recover soon Reason found: I was told by the staff, that there is a baking with fire process for Karigane, maybe that is why it may be consider as heaty drink to my bodyPS: Seems like I syiok sendiri in this thread |
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Aug 9 2010, 02:06 PM
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2009 Spring – HOJO Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh
  2005 Spring (Packed in 2006) – HOJO Lao Ban Zhang Raw Pu-erh   2010 Spring – HOJO Mi Di Raw Pu-erh   |
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Aug 9 2010, 03:45 PM
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I was told there's going to be a teapot exhibition in KL this NOV. The theme is something like Old Teapots, before and during Republic Era. A lot of Ming and Ching old teapots going to be there.
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Aug 9 2010, 05:43 PM
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i'm looking for chinese tea art workshop in KL?
anyone know about that?? |
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Aug 9 2010, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(jasmineh2y @ Aug 9 2010, 05:43 PM) i'm looking for chinese tea art workshop in KL? You can contact Purple Cane. They should have classes. You can also try contact Jing Si cafe. Not sure if they still got classanyone know about that?? |
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Aug 13 2010, 04:28 PM
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2009 Menghai Da Yi Gong Tuo Raw Pu-erh tea tuo in box * 100 grams
     2010 Menghai "Da Yi Jia Ji Tuo" Raw Pu-erh tea tuo  2010 Menghai V93 001 Ripe Pu-erh tea * 500 grams bag  This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 13 2010, 04:28 PM |
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Aug 13 2010, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 9 2010, 09:39 PM) You can contact Purple Cane. They should have classes. You can also try contact Jing Si cafe. Not sure if they still got class thx dude |
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Aug 13 2010, 04:49 PM
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i am looking for a type of chinese tea that has a sweet aftertaste.. tasted a chinese tea at taiwan but forgot the name already... something like dan chong..anybody know about this..?
currently consuming ho yan hor, since it tastes good, doing well with my digestion, easy to get & can reuse the tea bag content for about 3 times.. |
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Just bought this:-
Bodum YoYo Double Wall Glass Personal Tea Set, includes YoYo Stainless Steel Infuser and 12-Ounce Glass http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Personal-Stain...e/dp/B0010NR7C0    *Photos above not mine.. In short, this is going to be so much stylish and convenient in office Highly recommended for 1 person usage. Added on August 15, 2010, 3:34 pmEdit: After giving it a try, the glass is firm, thick, heavy and nice to hold. You can feel a little heat from holding the glass, but not burning hot. It can retain heat quite well. I compared it with my Purple Clay cup (200ml) vs this Bodum glass, seem like Bodum can retain heat longer. Reason is most likely because it is much thicker than my Purple Clay cup. Initially I wanted to buy a Gaiwan, but seems like this can be an alternative. Love the the inbuilt stainless steel infuzer, so much convenient. This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 15 2010, 03:34 PM |
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Aug 15 2010, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 15 2010, 02:12 PM) Just bought this:- wow! it is elegant, how much is this? where i can buy it?Bodum YoYo Double Wall Glass Personal Tea Set, includes YoYo Stainless Steel Infuser and 12-Ounce Glass http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Personal-Stain...e/dp/B0010NR7C0 *Photos above not mine.. In short, this is going to be so much stylish and convenient in office Highly recommended for 1 person usage. Added on August 15, 2010, 3:34 pmEdit: After giving it a try, the glass is firm, thick, heavy and nice to hold. You can feel a little heat from holding the glass, but not burning hot. It can retain heat quite well. I compared it with my Purple Clay cup (200ml) vs this Bodum glass, seem like Bodum can retain heat longer. Reason is most likely because it is much thicker than my Purple Clay cup. Initially I wanted to buy a Gaiwan, but seems like this can be an alternative. Love the the inbuilt stainless steel infuzer, so much convenient. |
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Aug 15 2010, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(jasmineh2y @ Aug 15 2010, 10:02 PM) wow! it is elegant, how much is this? where i can buy it? RM159 (Discount from RM2xx)Live It Up. LG306 1Utama Shopping Centre (New Wing) |
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Aug 16 2010, 03:11 PM
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2010 Xiaguan Organic Old Tree Iron Puer Cake 400g
 *Photo not mine I think this is still too new to drink. Can even smell the smoke without drinking it. When drinking; smoke taste came first, followed by bitter, then with strong Hui Gan and can feel the dryness in the mouth/throat. On 3rd infusion onwards, it tasted better. Less smoky. Colour wise looks quite yellowish brown unlike other 2010 raw i've tried. |
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Aug 17 2010, 02:50 PM
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Nowadays I don't buy new raw puer tea anymore. Mostly collect 90s since less smokiness and another few more years I can enjoy nice tea
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Aug 17 2010, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 17 2010, 02:50 PM) Nowadays I don't buy new raw puer tea anymore. Mostly collect 90s since less smokiness and another few more years I can enjoy nice tea It is kind of expensive to buy 90s good puerh nowadays, so I planned to setup a Pu box (by the year).I plan to get a box, labeled by the year and buy the year's puerh (diff range, 1 or 2 pieces each) and put it in. Keep the box for years to come and drink when is age enough. Do that every year. Result of the box may or may not be good. But heck is much cheaper and should be ok if kept well. The box will worth much more then (10+ years time) |
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Aug 17 2010, 03:02 PM
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2010 Menghai Da Yi Gong Tuo Ripe Pu-erh tea tuo in box * 100 grams
     I would say this is quite a nice young ripe pu-erh. No smoky No bitter Tasted smooth After taste: Quite good / dry at throat. Tea leaves in small pieces and quite dark in colour. Tea colour quite dark brownish. Picture above is first infusion. Second infusion even darker. Couldn't even see the bottom of my cup. Worth the buy for drinking now. |
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Aug 17 2010, 03:20 PM
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pu er tea.
u dislike it at first. but u will fell in love later. or jasmine not bad also. u can plant jasmine in your house too. |
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Aug 17 2010, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 17 2010, 03:01 PM) It is kind of expensive to buy 90s good puerh nowadays, so I planned to setup a Pu box (by the year). Not expensive if you really search for it. Anyway, it definitely cheaper than what you get at HOJO.. I plan to get a box, labeled by the year and buy the year's puerh (diff range, 1 or 2 pieces each) and put it in. Keep the box for years to come and drink when is age enough. Do that every year. Result of the box may or may not be good. But heck is much cheaper and should be ok if kept well. The box will worth much more then (10+ years time) Your idea of getting a box to keep 1-2 new tea each year is great but as for me, I will buy bulk if I really like the tea. I seen some friends owned really great tea bought years ago but only got 1-2 pieces and not willing to drink |
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Aug 18 2010, 02:28 PM
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chinese tea, green tea...
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Aug 18 2010, 03:37 PM
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I went to a shop name Xiao Yao Teahouse (175, 1st Floor, South City Plaza, Seri Kembangan, Selangor)
They have many types of Ru Kiln ware such as Tea Pots, Cups, Gaiwan, Sets, etc. According to them, they are the distributer for KL area since early 2009. Info I got from them:- -Dongda is the company that produces the Ru Kiln. Their factory is originated at Taiwan. Recently they opened another factory in China. Both produce Ru Kiln, but price wise Ru Kiln from China is much cheaper even though both use the same material. Reason for it being cheaper is because the workmanship at China is much cheaper. -According to them, from the look of the Ru Kiln, you wouldn’t tell the differences. Only different is there is an extra red sticker on the Taiwan Ru Kiln (which is removable if you plan to use it). The shop doesn’t sell Taiwan Ru Kiln as they said it is harder to sell, so basically they are selling only China Ru Kiln. -I was offered to try a Ru Kiln cup vs Porcelain cup. According to them, Ru Kiln cup will make the drink smoother and reduces the bitterness. So they gave me raw Pu erh to try. Frankly, I cannot feel a big difference in both. Possibility is because I had some heavy black coffee before entering the shop. Anyway, they said clients of theirs have tried beer with Ru Kiln, and it obviously removes the bitterness. I think I may try it over the weekend. -When holding Ru Kiln it gives the feeling that it solid and heavy. I compared a few of them (of the same type) and I can see that there is slight different in all of them which makes sense as it is handmade. There are 3 colours of Ru Kiln in general, but even it is supposed to be of the same colour, there is slight different as burning process differs. When used over time, there will be nice vein noticeable. -They also said that the price for Ru Kiln increases about 10% every year from the manufacturer. |
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Aug 18 2010, 03:37 PM
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Gaiwan Ru Kiln Sunflower Shape Gaiwan Set-Bluish white
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Aug 18 2010, 03:38 PM
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Aug 18 2010, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE The Host Ru Kiln Precious Ru Kiln is the best in the world. Observing the color of glaze you can find it is just like the sun shines again after rain, mile and ancient as well as simple: touching its surface, you can feel smooth and exquisite just like beautiful jade. The 10 th century A.D.(Song Dynasty ). A morning star is rising in Chinese porcelain history-Ru Kiln Amount of treasures of Ru Kiln which can be handed down from ancient times is less than 70pcs, which are all rare treasures. The host Ru Kiln shows its amazing beautiful by its meteoric, graceful and peaceful features as well as natural beauty without any flowery decoration. Dongdao Ru Ware, the No. one Kiln in the world. Dongdao tea tool (pots and cups etc.) are well received for its simplistic design, elegant appearance, a combination of simple aesthetics and noble character, looking from a distance you are amazed. However, coming closer, they are attractive and approachable. Its color reminds of the clear sky after a rain. They feel like jade ware, smooth and fine. The heritage of the noble character and ingenuity exhibited in Dongdao tea tools. Make the Dongdao tea tools objects of collection by the connoisseurs. Dongdao Ru Kiln ware tells people of a legendary history. The First of Celadon & Ringleader Ru Kiln Ru kiln porcelain had been listed on the top five famous Kilns ( Ru,Jun,Guan,Ge,Ding) in Song Dynasty, which had been praised as “The first of Celadon & Ringleader Ru Kiln” and keep the same until now. Ru Kiln is in the first position among all porcelain with exquisite base, stiff structure and glossy glaze color. Starting from Song, Yuan, Ming, Qing Dynasty, Ru Kiln had been used in royal court, and kept in royal court warehouse being considered as treasure, which can compare with sacrificial vessels in Song Dynasty and ancient cooking vessels of Zhou Dynasty. It was also said that no matter how many treasures you have, it still can not compare with a piece of Ru Kiln porcelain. Shape—simple and exquisite, pure and substantial Shape of Ru Kiln porcelain is grand and generous, anciently simple and graceful, the base cliff, pretty and stylish. Exquisite techniques and making with charms Being eminent above all others of the same kind Ru Kiln breaks new ground for the future in the Chinese porcelain history. It is eminent above all other of the same kind, which creates new style of celadon porcelain culture, builds up a good sample for the porcelain of simple color in Ming and Qing dynasties and erects monument for the development of porcelain ware. Ru Kiln has elegant and quiet beauty like mild jade, which is solid, generous and lenient, which is exceedingly beautiful, solemn and quiet, simple and generous. Being polished again and again, coming up with excellent product finally The firing techniques of Ru Kiln are very complicated. The porcelain base is made with more than 10 kinds of mines after being filtered by tambours of 80meshes and 120meshes, sucked all the irons by magnetite and tagged into slop, then slop being put into mold. After being dried, the porcelain base shall be polished for 3 times to make it smooth, thereafter, being fired for 10 hours at the temperature of 800’c, later being polished for 2 times. It will be finished after putting glaze on porcelain base and being dried, then fired for 13 hours; the detailed procedures are 18 steps. The main procedure of firing is the procedure of oxidation reduction under 1260’C high temperature and get rid of oxygen atom from silicate. But the rate of finished product is just 17%, as for the excellent product, even fewer. Color---cyan like sky, surface like jade Ru Kiln porcelain uses carnelian into glaze, which has beautiful quality, graceful, clean and simple with soft color full of water sense. For the light glaze color, it is like broad sky which is called “sky cyan” : for the dark glaze color , it is like the sunshine after rain, which is called “pink cyan” : for the white glaze color, it is like shinning star which is call “moon white”. Crackle---silk like chaeto, quality like gold Since the separation of glaze materials (carnelian crystal), the ware surface appears beautiful small crackle like scale, the pearl shape crystal is around the bubble, just like morning stars, it is very unique. Textural Quality---smooth like skin, feel like fat Ru Kiln porcelain is soft and smooth, feel like Chi with transparent and fruit juice. When being watched, it is like the green of mountain full of trees, having the beautiful of jade. The host Ru Kiln is ancient, simple and elegant, with average smooth sense, taking the excellent technique of Ru Kiln and soul of changing of glaze color, which continues the great reputation of No.1 porcelain. Notice on Collection and Appreciation of Ru Kiln Product: [ Fostering of Ru Kiln porcelain] 1. When appreciation Ru Kiln porcelain, you shall wash the inner and exterior of Ru Kiln clearly to avoid any oil contacting with it: 2. When using it, you can use fostering pot brush to moisten the surface of Ru Kiln by tea liquid, then appreciate the changing of cicada wing like lines(for the host Ru Kiln ware used for long period, the appearance of tea lines is normal, it show ancient charms ). 3. After finishing using it, you shall clean all the tea-leaf and wash by clean water and dry it. 4. Before the Ru Kiln is used, it can be put in dry and clean room. [Collection of Ru Kiln Porcelain] 1. Ru Kin shall be put in a room which is well ventilated, dry and clean room. 2. After being fostered and appreciated, the host Ru Kiln will show its unique wise, the changing of its cicada wing like lines varies from each, which also makes each one the unique in the world. It is the best artwork which is worthwhile to be collected. 3. The Ru Kiln porcelain shall not be keep without being used for long period. Feel the function of enjoying while using to appreciate its texture and tea mixing together showing the art sense. 4. The person who collects it can feel the soul of culture by heart: making mud forever, tasting the great sample of art. |
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Aug 18 2010, 10:57 PM
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Review:
I just tried Gyokuro in the Ru Kiln. Used a glass tea pot to brew the tea and then pour it into the Ru Kiln cup. Seems like the first two infusion which usually has a little bitter when I drink it in Banko Yaki (Purple Clay) cup has gone down / nearly none. I think Ru Kiln gives stronger aroma (smell) and flavor. On the 3rd infusion, I compared Ru Kiln cup side by side with Banko Yaki (Purple Clay) cup. Ru Kiln seems to give more flavor, but very much less After Taste compared to Purple Clay. The cup is quite hot to hold, but still bearable. My only issue is, need to get use with this smaller (100ml) cup. Been using 200ml cup all the while. |
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Aug 19 2010, 12:01 AM
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You may want to get old teacup if you want smoother water taste. It is more obvious than these new Ru Kiln.
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Aug 19 2010, 03:16 PM
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Couldn't resist... Got myself another full set
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Aug 19 2010, 11:42 PM
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Found this in my store room. Belongs to my dad. No idea what pot is this or who is that dude (as I don't know how to read chinese)
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Aug 20 2010, 01:25 AM
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dude just a normal teapot maker. China got too many of them. The teapot seems nice. Should use it rather than store it in the room.
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Aug 20 2010, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 15 2010, 10:14 PM) RM159 (Discount from RM2xx) thx ya Live It Up. LG306 1Utama Shopping Centre (New Wing)  |
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Aug 22 2010, 11:23 PM
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Just got Shigaraki Kyusu today.
Mr Hojo was there in the store. He taught me how to taste water/tea. Basically, your upper lips should not touch the cup. Your lower lips to be intact the the cup. Suck the water/tea directly into the end of your tongue. The water/tea should bypass your teeth and front tongue. Once the water/tea is at the back of your tongue, let it flow into your throat. Don't swallow it. Not an easy task... Burnt my tongue and choked cause sucked too hard. Need a lot of practice Unboxing Shigaraki Clay Teapot (Kyusu) - Tachi Masaki           |
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Aug 23 2010, 12:49 AM
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Wow. I don't think that you should get too serious on how to do a proper way to taste tea.
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Aug 23 2010, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 23 2010, 12:49 AM) Wow. I don't think that you should get too serious on how to do a proper way to taste tea. According to Mr. Hojo that is the proper way to identify the quality of the tea. He said if you just swallow the tea you will not accurately identify the after taste which is the most important to determine the grade of tea ie RM30 and RM250 kind of tea. The same method of tasting can be applied to water, wine, etcI doubt I will be doing that extreme whenever drinking tea, but would be good to learn how to properly do the tasting. Mr Hojo is in KL till Oct, Weekdays after 7pm and weekend after 2pm. Visit him if you interested to hear from his experience regarding tea, clays. He has a diff concept about storing and aging pu erh. |
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Aug 23 2010, 08:37 AM
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currently i just into tea. Randomly bought Lipton Green Tea at Giant. I drink it in the morning before breakfast and feel full whole day. LOL
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Aug 23 2010, 10:37 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 07:36 AM) According to Mr. Hojo that is the proper way to identify the quality of the tea. He said if you just swallow the tea you will not accurately identify the after taste which is the most important to determine the grade of tea ie RM30 and RM250 kind of tea. The same method of tasting can be applied to water, wine, etc There are many ways to identify quality of tea but I would be more interested to know how to determine whether that particular tea is suitable for aging. Maybe you can pose this question to Mr Hojo I doubt I will be doing that extreme whenever drinking tea, but would be good to learn how to properly do the tasting. I have drunk liu bao tea stored here for more than 50 years and I must say it is better than some of the similar aged puer stored elsewhere. Added on August 23, 2010, 10:39 am QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 23 2010, 08:37 AM) currently i just into tea. Randomly bought Lipton Green Tea at Giant. I drink it in the morning before breakfast and feel full whole day. LOL Full for whole day?? First time I encounter such statement This post has been edited by cuebiz: Aug 23 2010, 10:39 AM |
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Aug 23 2010, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 23 2010, 08:37 AM) currently i just into tea. Randomly bought Lipton Green Tea at Giant. I drink it in the morning before breakfast and feel full whole day. LOL If you are satisfied with Lipton, wait till you try proper green tea, full whole week QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 23 2010, 10:37 AM) There are many ways to identify quality of tea but I would be more interested to know how to determine whether that particular tea is suitable for aging. Maybe you can pose this question to Mr Hojo He did explained it to me, and if I recall correctly (don't quote what I said about what he said)... I have drunk liu bao tea stored here for more than 50 years and I must say it is better than some of the similar aged puer stored elsewhere. He said people at China (ulu ulu ppl that makes tea) don't drink aged tea. He said after being there and interviewing them himself, he claimed that those ppl in china's town, hk, tw are the ones that goreng the concept of aging tea. He said after taste will not change regardless new or old tea, and only the character (flavor / aroma) will change. Based on his standard, after taste should be what to hunt for and not strong flavor / aroma / old taste. He said you can easily find strong flavor / aroma even in new tea. Regarding vacuum pack the pu erh, he said it is the best way to store in our weather condition based on his research. Mr. Hojo also offered (on my next visit) to let me taste an oolong which is sealed 7 years in a vacuum pack and he said it tasted amazing. |
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Aug 23 2010, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 10:58 AM) He said people at China (ulu ulu ppl that makes tea) don't drink aged tea. He said after being there and interviewing them himself, he claimed that those ppl in china's town, hk, tw are the ones that goreng the concept of aging tea. He said after taste will not change regardless new or old tea, and only the character (flavor / aroma) will change. Based on his standard, after taste should be what to hunt for and not strong flavor / aroma / old taste. He said you can easily find strong flavor / aroma even in new tea. Regarding vacuum pack the pu erh, he said it is the best way to store in our weather condition based on his research. Mr. Hojo also offered (on my next visit) to let me taste an oolong which is sealed 7 years in a vacuum pack and he said it tasted amazing. As for aged taste, I suggest you purchase, drink them and then you can make up your mind whether it is worth to keep a tea for aging. I have tasted oolong stored in a tin box for more than 20 years and it taste great. However, you should understand that oolong tea is semi fermented and also there are light and heavy roasted version. Vacuum pack may work for oolong but may not for puer. There is 2 good english book on Puer tea by Mr Chan Kam Pong. It tells the history, types of puer, how to interpret the code (7542) etc. You can find them for sale on Purple Cane. Recommended. His blog http://www.cloudsteacollection.com/ |
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 23 2010, 11:37 AM) Mr Hojo got it half right. Places like Kunming drinks raw Puer due to the weather there. There is no market for cooked or aged tea. Certain places in China do not drink Puer at all. Concept of aging tea is a very old tradition that is started out long time ago in HK. Thanks for the link and reference. Will do more digging.As for aged taste, I suggest you purchase, drink them and then you can make up your mind whether it is worth to keep a tea for aging. I have tasted oolong stored in a tin box for more than 20 years and it taste great. However, you should understand that oolong tea is semi fermented and also there are light and heavy roasted version. Vacuum pack may work for oolong but may not for puer. There is 2 good english book on Puer tea by Mr Chan Kam Pong. It tells the history, types of puer, how to interpret the code (7542) etc. You can find them for sale on Purple Cane. Recommended. His blog http://www.cloudsteacollection.com/ Since I'm quite new, I've not tasted anything before 2001 yet. Will have to visit few other tea shops to sample/learn. |
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Aug 23 2010, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 23 2010, 10:37 AM) Full for whole day?? First time I encounter such statement QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 10:58 AM) If you are satisfied with Lipton, wait till you try proper green tea, full whole week wow really? proper green tea as in how? what are the brands?This post has been edited by Celest-Lee: Aug 23 2010, 02:59 PM |
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Aug 23 2010, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 23 2010, 02:58 PM) wow really? proper green tea as in how? what are the brands? My craze over tea started thanks to the guy below QUOTE(9th @ Oct 13 2009, 03:23 PM) If u all like green tea so much why dont try high quality tea which available at 3rd floor The Garden mall besides Mid Valley Megamall...the shop called HOJO Tea. I purchased my 1st and 2nd tea from there...certainly most of them are expensive BUT you'll experience the true high quality taste of Japanese Green as well as Chinese tea. Don't be hesitated to enter the shop and ask for 'tea testing'. You can test from the lowest quality Japanese tea Shizuoka Sencha up to the highest quality the Gyokuro tea. Here is the link u all would like to make further searching http://hojotea.com/indexe.html p/s: you'll know what is the quality comparing with the one in supermarket/hypermarket. QUOTE(9th @ Oct 19 2009, 11:05 PM) if u all have time, plz consider to taste japanese or chinese tea using different kinds of tea pots which made of different kinds of materials. I had only tried japanese tea using ceramic tea pot and clay teapot...surprisingly different. the taste by ceramic is quite "sharp" just like u are using glass tea pot compare to clay tea pot which is mellow and sweet... there are also "Purple Clay Tea Pot" and "Red Clay Tea Port". I never have chances to try that due to its expensive price... |
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Aug 23 2010, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 23 2010, 08:37 AM) currently i just into tea. Randomly bought Lipton Green Tea at Giant. I drink it in the morning before breakfast and feel full whole day. LOL Speaking of Lipton, check out how the test their teahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CezYHsqzW0w |
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Aug 24 2010, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 04:33 PM) My craze over tea started thanks to the guy below QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 23 2010, 06:18 PM) eh eh.. like that to test tea de ha... lipton green tea good onot de ma? hehehehe.. i also wanna try other tea got my health! |
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Aug 24 2010, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 24 2010, 01:31 PM) eh eh.. like that to test tea de ha... lipton green tea good onot de ma? hehehehe.. i also wanna try other tea got my health! I tried before, lipton's green tea is like |
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Aug 24 2010, 05:40 PM
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Just tasted the below. Both has good flavor, strong aroma and has the fruity taste. Nonetheless, DHP is better if compared side by side. Couldn't decide, ended up bought both
Da Hong Pao (2010)   Tie Luo Han (2007)   |
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Aug 24 2010, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(akira de aimbuster @ Aug 24 2010, 03:27 PM) I tried before, lipton's green tea is like hehehe i know the taste but for health xD |
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Aug 24 2010, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 10 2010, 12:50 AM) What kind of tea? Chinese tea? Japanese green tea? Boh tea? I like all sorts of tea - Chinese tea, Korean tea, Japanese tea, teh tarik, Boh Tea, Earl Grey with milk and sugar, Egyptian mint tea. |
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Aug 25 2010, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Celest-Lee @ Aug 24 2010, 07:42 PM) hehehe i know the taste but for health xD Why don't I suggest you try puer? The tea is the choice of Victoria Beckham to maintain her weight. |
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Aug 25 2010, 11:14 AM
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Jessica Simpson Vegan and Pu-erh Tea Diet With Master Wang
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/jessica-si...ng-2634779.html |
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 25 2010, 10:29 AM) Why don't I suggest you try puer? The tea is the choice of Victoria Beckham to maintain her weight. i donwan be skeleton!!! hahahaha she is too skiny le baQUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 25 2010, 11:14 AM) Jessica Simpson Vegan and Pu-erh Tea Diet With Master Wang that is better... nice figure.. where to buy this kind of tea?http://www.nowpublic.com/health/jessica-si...ng-2634779.html |
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Aug 26 2010, 03:16 PM
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2004年 401批中茶易武野生大叶熟茶
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Aug 26 2010, 08:42 PM
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7572 is a famous ripe puer formula. The one I got is year 2006 with red ribbon!
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Aug 26 2010, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 26 2010, 08:42 PM) 7572 is a famous ripe puer formula. The one I got is year 2006 with red ribbon! Is red ribbon more premium? How much you bought it? |
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Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:22 PM) Is red ribbon more premium? How much you bought it? Not sure. I guess it meant for export to Taiwan or elsewhere. It taste good. I bought 1 basket (84 pieces). So special price for me |
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Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM) Not sure. I guess it meant for export to Taiwan or elsewhere. It taste good. I bought 1 basket (84 pieces). So special price for me  That is real lot... |
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Aug 26 2010, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM) That is real lot... |
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Aug 28 2010, 04:53 PM
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Dragon Pole - Menghai Dayi Pu-erh Tea 2009 Ripe
14+1 Beeng (box set)  This ripe Dragon is so good. No smoke, Not bitter. Not dry. Smooth. Deep coloured. Indeed premium category. At the shop, I asked them to let me compare an older ripe puerh of the same price with it. They compared it with a 5 years old Ripe (can't remember the recipe), but this dragon even though 2009 (dec production - less than 1 year aging), is much better in terms of flavor, aroma and smoothness. |
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Aug 29 2010, 10:36 AM
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Aug 29 2010, 11:17 AM
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Aug 29 2010, 07:41 PM
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i dont like pu-er , too "colour-ish"
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Aug 30 2010, 12:54 AM
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wow.. for a newbie tea like me, i learn alot.. cool!
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Aug 30 2010, 09:26 AM
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An old articles about the pu erh crisis
EMBARGO: In once-booming tea region, a bitter reality http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/as...30756.html?_r=1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 30 2010, 09:39 AM |
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Aug 30 2010, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 30 2010, 09:26 AM) An old articles about the pu erh crisis Those buying at the peak 2006-2007 paying 2-3 times more. After the price crash, you can find many cheap new tea. However, prices of aged tea never come down.EMBARGO: In once-booming tea region, a bitter reality http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/as...30756.html?_r=1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Aug 30 2010, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(djronzai @ Aug 29 2010, 07:41 PM) i dont like pu-er , too "colour-ish" Same here, but girls typically like it cuz they say it's a slimming tea. |
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Aug 30 2010, 07:31 PM
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Year of Tiger - Menghai Taetea Puer Tea 2010 Raw
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Aug 30 2010, 10:41 PM
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Having tea tasting for nearly 5 hours, about 9 types of teas... I am seriously having the drunk feeling and hang over.
Basically from the 3rd hour onwards... I couldn't tell the difference of the tea (same category) any more. Added on August 30, 2010, 11:36 pmJust want to share what I’ve learnt today from a tea seller. This guy claimed he used to be a tea lover before becoming a tea seller. He has about 15 years of experience and has sampled many many teas (he threw mountain names, trees names, etc that he has sampled). Here is his advice for a noob like me:- - First, learn how to drink water. Drink different types of water, drink water at a different temperature (hot, warm, cold, ice) and drink water in different clay/pots. If you can tell the difference of water taste, it will be easier for you to taste tea. - When tasting tea, best NOT to use influential water and clay/pots. - Drink all kinds of tea. Cheap. Bad. Expensive. Good. Young. Aged. - Don’t look at the price before drinking tea. Expensive tea does not mean good. Price is influential. Usually people would think that expensive means good. So, rely on your own taste to decide whether is it worth the price and whether you are financially capable of buying it. - Don’t listen to what the tea seller says about the character and flavor of the tea. When one listen to what the tea seller says, the brain will somehow influence your taste. - Buy tea based on your preference. Let your taste decide. No point buying something that people says nice, but you don’t enjoy it. - What do you seek for when buying tea? Health? Investment? Taste of Luxury? Show off? - Experiment on different brewing timing based on your preference. Sometimes soaking it longer may give better taste but lesser health benefit. So what is your preference? - Learn to identify what kind of bitter is good. Not all bitterness is bad. - Usually when you first taste a new kind of tea, you may not like it. Learn to drink a few more rounds before concluding. - Learn to feel the taste at the tongue, mouth and throat. Different types of tea will give different after taste. What kind of after taste you like? Some people like dryness, some people like sweetness, some people like bitterness, etc etc. Is all up to your own preference. - Learn to identify from taste what is wet storage and dry storage. Decide which you like. Wet doesn’t mean bad. Dry doesn’t mean good. - Always observe how tea sellers brew the tea. What kind of parameters, etc. Did they put a lot of tea leaves vs water? - When investing on young puerh, since nowadays puerh is done in mass production… will the price increase like how it used to be in the future? - He said one can easily find an aged raw in the future, but not many will keep cook as people tend to drink cook straight away. This post has been edited by auhckw: Aug 30 2010, 11:36 PM |
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Aug 31 2010, 12:14 AM
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Drink 9 types of tea in one sitting is kinda too much. Normally, I taste 1-3 types and take sample for the rest. Sometimes I also buy 1 piece to sample at my home. If I identified the tea is good, I will buy in bulk. Identifying a good puer tea takes much experience. The only way is to read more, go to tea shop to sample and of course, learn from experienced tea master. Fortunately, many tea master in KL is willing to share information provided you asked the right questions.
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Aug 31 2010, 03:52 PM
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Today went for another round of tea tasting. 3 hours, 6 tea (2 ripe, 4 raw). This time, I sampled only few cups per tea, so didn't get drunk
Managed to sample a 80s Raw Pu. The young raw taste has gone. It is smooth, but tasted nothing great. That cake is about RM1k. |
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Sep 1 2010, 10:23 AM
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2010-08-26
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/china_world.../00178_011.html 昆明檢逾五萬個假普洱茶餅 除了假果汁，茶葉大省雲南也發現大批假普洱。昆明警方根據舉報，破獲該市西山區一個假茶工場，繳獲假普洱茶餅五萬多個，茶原料數十噸。 據了解，假冒最多的是雲南勐海普洱茶廠、雲南中茶茶業有限公司生產的各種品牌的普洱茶。當局表示，工場中的假冒茶葉是直接放在地上發酵，大腸桿菌含量嚴重超標，對身體有害。 Google Translate Kunming seized more than 50,000 fake tea cakes In addition to false fruit juice, tea, Yunnan province also found a large number of false Pu'er. Kunming police report, the city uncovered a fake tea factory Xishan District, seized more than 50,000 fake tea cakes, tea, dozens of tons of raw materials. It is understood that most counterfeit MENGHAI Yunnan tea plants, Yunnan Chacha Limited production of various brands of tea. Authorities said the plant in the fake tea is fermented directly on the ground, E. coli, found excessive harmful. |
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Sep 2 2010, 12:06 AM
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2008 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh
Finally decided to open this. My first purchased raw pu.    I bought this when I first started my venture into pu. Initially I thought I was a raw guy, but in the midst of the venture, I found out that I am a ripe pu guy. Drinking this reminds me why I liked raw at the first place. Though it is still a young raw, but there is not much of the young solid taste. I have tasted quite a few young raw pu and mostly are strong or has the smoky smell or bitterness or spikiness for me. This on the other hand is very much drinkable and smooth. I enjoyed it. The smell of the pu is good. The after taste is real long lasting (maybe partially because I am brewing it with Shigaraki Kyusu). There is some sweetness in my throat from 2nd infusion onwards.  5g : 120ml water Rinsing - 10 seconds  Picture: 1st infusion - 60 seconds 2nd infusion - 15 seconds 3rd infusion - 30 seconds 4th infusion – 45 seconds  Picture: 5th infusion – 60 seconds. Taste and colour of the tea didn’t change much from the 1st infusion till the 5th infusion.  |
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Sep 2 2010, 10:48 PM
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2010 Mi Di Raw Pu-erh
    5g : 120ml water Rinsing - 10 seconds  Picture: 1st infusion - 60 seconds - don't like 2nd infusion - 15 seconds - still dont' like 3rd infusion - 45 seconds - gave up Tasted dry with light bitterness aftertaste. If I recall correctly, it shouldn't be this kind of taste when I bought it. Kind of not my preference. I won't be drinking this anytime soon. Hope aging will make it better.  |
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Sep 3 2010, 04:21 PM
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CNNP - Meng Hai Lang He Tea Factory 2000 raw
   10 years old. Dry storage. Liquor has become thicker and quite smooth.  Colour of the tea above is 1st infusion. Aroma and Taste is quite ok. Still have Pu smell. A little dry. A little bitter. Maybe this used to be bitter but bitterness has gone down from the aging. Acceptable bitterness. Not much aftertaste. The taste only lasted in mouth/tongue but not much in the throat  This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 3 2010, 04:35 PM |
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Sep 3 2010, 11:20 PM
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2006 Lao Ban Zhang Raw Pu-erh
I was told that this is premium spring grade. Leaves were from 2005 spring. Beeng compressed in 2006.   Though it has been 4 years, this Pu seems relatively young in terms of taste and colour. Doesn't have smoke smell/taste. No bitter. Most likely dry storage.  8g : 200ml water Rinsing - 10 seconds  1st infusion - 60 seconds -Taste like normal grade Pu, Nothing great. The taste seems weak. No aftertaste feel yet.  2nd infusion - 15 seconds -Taste improved. Can start feeling the aftertaste in the throat.  3rd infusion - 30 seconds -The joy starts from here. Aftertaste quite deep in throat. Taste spread throughout the mouth, but also feeling a little dry.  4th infusion – 45 seconds -Same feeling as 3rd infusion. Quality didn't drop.  5th infusion – 60 seconds -Still feels good, but slight drop in taste. I think it has reached its peak and is heading downward if I were to continue brewing. Stopped here.  Overall, this is a good premium LBZ. Even after 50 minutes, I can still feel the nice aftertaste in throat/mouth. Now the question is, does the taste justify the price? Was it really that good for the price it is? I definitely didn't regret buying this, but price vs quality ratio, I think LBZ may be over hyped. |
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Sep 4 2010, 12:55 AM
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LBZ is famous now because it is believe that the aged tea are mix with tea leaves from that area and now it turned to vintage tea. Harvest of LBZ is limited due to the small area size. Most LBZ tea cake on the market I believe just contains less than 10% LBZ material and the rest makes up with arbor tea leaves.
I have never even bought 1 LBZ tea cake due to the high price for a new tea. With the same price, I can get a 10 year old tea. |
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Sep 4 2010, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 4 2010, 12:55 AM) LBZ is famous now because it is believe that the aged tea are mix with tea leaves from that area and now it turned to vintage tea. Harvest of LBZ is limited due to the small area size. Most LBZ tea cake on the market I believe just contains less than 10% LBZ material and the rest makes up with arbor tea leaves. There are many LBZ out there. I've seem some at RM10 and some at >RM1k... even for young raw. So unless the seller/buyer is educated enough, they may sell/buy the mixed LBZ Pu at the wrong price.I have never even bought 1 LBZ tea cake due to the high price for a new tea. With the same price, I can get a 10 year old tea. I took the risk and bought something in between the price. I was told the one I bought is premium. I have not tasted other premium LBZ before, so couldn't tell whether it is premium or not. The least I can do is set the LBZ I bought as a benchmark for future LBZ tasting. Reasons why 'real/premium/unmix' LBZ is expensive (summary info I got):- -generally considered as the King of raw pu-erh in chinese market due to its unique good quality, strong sweed aftertaste and strong flavor -high up mountain, small location, limited quantity of tea leaves, -the village has a history that can be traced back to 1476, and the tea production history also commenced in the same year. -starting from 2007, 陈升茶厂 factory signed a contract with most of the LBZ villagers to get a certain bulk out of the production. However, there are still some families which did not sign the contracts which they still their own materials -due to the claimed domination and exclusive sales of 陈升茶厂, nowadays the LBZ tea is sold at very high price. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 4 2010, 08:47 AM |
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Sep 4 2010, 10:11 AM
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LBZ for RM10? Haha...I guess it is just BZ. Adding the L can makes a price difference. Serious connoisseur usually do not touch LBZ. At least, those experienced teamaster told me they themselves do not recommend it.
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Sep 4 2010, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 4 2010, 10:11 AM) LBZ for RM10? Haha...I guess it is just BZ. Adding the L can makes a price difference. Serious connoisseur usually do not touch LBZ. At least, those experienced teamaster told me they themselves do not recommend it. Yes, I would agree. It is nice, but does not justify the price ratio. I mean the LBZ I bought is expensive about 10x more than dayi-7542 (901) but taste wise is not 10x better than it.LBZ is indeed good but not super 'great', and for the price it is, I think I can get better non LBZ tea. Eg, the mengku I posted earlier is a also very good. I would prefer the mengku over lbz. Price wise mengku is 1/2 of the LBZ. As for the tea leaves, it is indeed doesn't look great for the price. Initially I have doubts too. I even questioned the seller a few times, but after getting some justifications about the genuinity of the LBZ that I bought, I have only got to rely on my taste to determine it. After sampling it yesterday, I would say it should be ok and tasted above average for a young raw. But then, my experience in Pu is not that long... I would one day seek out some tea master that I've met recently for opinions. That would at least educate me better. I think LBZ is in a way, supply and demand + hyped. That said, good to have bought it... and move on for next tea... |
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Sep 4 2010, 07:12 PM
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Lao Ban Zhang - The Story Behind The King Of Raw Pu-erh
Source/Credit: http://www.facebook.com/notes/hojo-tea/lao...125284497520601 by Hojo Tea on Saturday, September 4, 2010 at 6:01pm In China tea market, Lao Ban Zhang (老班章) is famously referred as the King of Raw Pu-erh tea. Its flavor is uniquely strong with bold, complex taste. In Kunming, tea connoisseurs often describe the taste of Lao Ban Zhang as “霸” (superiorly dominant). This is why they crowned Lao Ban Zhang as “The King”. Lao Ban Zhang is named after the village that produces this tea. Lao Ban Zhang Village is located in Bulang Mountain (布朗山)at Menghai (勐海) county, Xishuang Banna (西双版纳，South West Yunnan). The earliest record on the village’s tea production can be traced back to 1476. Lao Ban Zhang Village is resided by minorities known as The Bulang tribe. For generations, the Bulang people planted tea trees and produce tea in the mountains. Today, there are 117 Bulang families residing in Lao Ban Zhang Village. The village is situated at 1700-1900m high mountain area. Such high altitude is rare in tropical part of South Yunnan. The average temperature yearly is 18.7C. For half of the entire year, this mountain village of Lao Ban Zhang is covered in thick fog. Lao Ban Zhang’s tea plantation is located close to the borders of Burma. It covers 310 hectares of land. It was estimated that there are 78,555 tea trees aged more than 100 years old, 70,866 tea trees that is more than 200 years old, 37,076 tea trees aged more than 500 years old and 9,412 tea trees more than 800 years old. The trees grow in the jungle, they co-exist with other jungle plants, and therefore they are not polluted by pesticide or any chemical fertilizer. The Bulang farmers manage and take care of these trees with their own original method. Until today, they still produce Lao Ban Zhang tea by following the traditional processing method passed down from their ancestors. In 1950s, this tea was selected as tribute tea to Chairman Mao, who was known as a tea maniac. In the past, Lao Ban Zhang was a secluded, peaceful village, very few visitors go there. But from 2000 onwards, especially since 2004 during the pu-erh boom in China, many tea merchants and collectors often visited Lan Ban Zhang village. They competed to buy this tea because of its genuine good quality and fame. Most of these tea merchants let the Bulang people produce the raw material by themselves, but the merchants buy over the loose tealeaves and bring back to their factory. They then compress the tea into cake size and package it under their own label. As a result, nowadays we see a lot of Lan Ban Zhang tea exist in the market with various kind of labels and packaging. In 2007, Chen Sheng Tea Factory （陈升茶厂） seized an opportunity to dominate the tea supply in Lao Ban Zhang village so that they could control the supply and market price for Lao Ban Zhang tea. They signed a contract with the villagers, from then onwards became the major buyer of Lao Ban Zhang tea raw material. Since then, most of Lao Ban Zhang tea, whether compressed into cake size or bricks, were manufactured and branded by “陈升茶厂” (Chen Sheng Tea Factory) . However, out of 117 families that produce tea in Lao Ban Zhang village, there are still 28 families who did not sign the monopoly contract with Chen Sheng Tea Factory. These few families can still sell their own raw materials to other tea merchants. Due to the domination by Chen Sheng Tea Factory, nowadays genuine Lao Ban Zhang tea are sold at a very high price in the market. In general, the following factors make Lao Ban Zhang’s price very high: 1) Good quality, sweet and strong aftertaste, bold and rich flavor. 2) Historically famous. Was once a tribute tea for top leaders in China. 3) Limited supply and production quantity. 4) Supply of raw materials is partly monopolized by one factory.  tea leaves plucked in early spring makes the most superior quality Lao Ban Zhang |
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Sep 4 2010, 11:42 PM
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Asahina Gyokuro
After few days of consistently drinking pu erh, time to have a break. So here I am brewing Gyokuro. Gyokuro is so refreshing and tasty at a different level. The aroma smells good. The taste is delicious. That said, some people may not like it as it may taste grassy or seaweed.  5g : 160ml Boiling Water poured into Shigaraki Kyusu, keep the water for 2 minutes, then pour water into glass pot for brewing.  1st infusion -30s -strong aroma but only decent taste  2nd infusion -3s -stronger taste, liquid seems thicker, some sweetness  3rd infusion -6s -even stronger taste than 2nd brewing  4th infusion -15s -colour looks darker. taste maintain  5th infusion -30s -colour similar to 4th infusion. taste maintain  6th infusion -60s -colour drops a little. taste drops a little too but still good Couldn’t proceed… almost full  Today's brewing was quite a success. No bitterness and managed to maintain the taste for quite a number of infusions. Too bad not much aftertaste in the throat, but mainly aftertaste in the mouth. |
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Sep 5 2010, 05:46 PM
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Just had this 'Shi Feng Long Jing'... and I have to write the joy I had.
 *Picture not mine At the shop, before tasting Long Jing, I was tasting few puerh which was very good. The aftertaste in my mouth and throat was with the puerh. But after tasted Long Jing... I have a new definition of what is call good tea. It basically overwrites the puerh I had earlier. If Gyokuro is good, Long Jing to my definition is one step above. It has some 'similarity' taste of Gyokuro, but stronger flavor and sweetness. Not to mention stronger and longer aftertaste. First 5 brewing has strong flavor and tasted sweet in mouth and throat. Then we continue to brew for another 5+ times, the flavor goes down per infusion, but the sweetness remains. I was then told not to waste the Long Jing leaves. It can be used to make soup, or mixed with other drinks. So, I was then given to try Coffee with the used Long Jing. There is some slight improvement in the taste of the coffee but not much. Actually, by then anything I drink is actually with the Long Jing sweet aftertaste. I tasted the earlier puerh again, it was diff. The puerh tasted sweeter. I tried plain water, it was also sweet. The good sweet aftertaste lasted about 3 hours+ The joy... Now for the ouch part... 50g = 380.00 MYR = 121.939 USD Per serving at about 3g@150ml = 25.00 MYR = 8.02233 USD This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 5 2010, 06:54 PM |
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Sep 5 2010, 11:09 PM
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Was digging youtube for Longjing... found some interesting videos
How to distinguish a good Longjing tea http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTBAz5I6NFw Brewing Longjing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETU6jq-i66Y |
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Sep 8 2010, 11:06 PM
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My opinion for keeping puerh for aging...
The question you should ask yourself when buying puerh for aging is, what is the objective of aging the puerh? Is it for your investment or consumption? For investment:- -I've seen/spoken to people who buy in boxessss of toong for keeping. These people will usually go for those big factories ie Dayi, XiaGuan. -It is a volume game and these people normally buy current year puerh as it is cheaper. -Diversify the range of recipes when buying. As long it is standard recipe it 'should' be ok for the future as it is well recognized. Eg. 7542 y2010 - in 10 to 20 years time, it 'should' be still sought after. -Buying in bulk requires you to choose trusted suppliers cause there are fakes out there and profit margin for suppliers are very high. So find trusted suppliers and those that is willing to give good discount. I've seen young puerh which was markup 300% (could be more) if you were to buy in few pieces and good discount was given if were to buy in toong and even more discount if were to buy in boxes. -For the recent years, puerh are produced in mass production. Will there be oversupply in future? Will the return of investment as good as it used to be? You need a magical crystal ball to tell you :mrgreen: For consumption:- -Sample and choose those that you really like now and 'hope' that it will age well. There is no guarantee. Personally, I don't buy puerh for investment. So I tend to choose better grade puerh for aging, as chances of better grade puerh 'should' be better in future. Again there is no guarantee but 'hope'. -Better grade now doesn't mean it will turn out good in future. Cheaper grade now doesn't mean it will not turn out good in future. So diversify when buying. -Since you are buying for the future, I would suggest you to buy raw and ripe now. Even though you may like raw now, it doesn't mean in the future you may not like ripe. So buy a little of both and when you are 'aged' too, your taste may change. Especially when our body gets older, some people make move towards ripe or aged raw then. -Not sure it is just me, another thing I've found out is, as when you have tasted better and better quality tea, your expectations will go up. I have currently some puerh that was tasted good back then, but after tasting more high end puerh, those that was bought previously have actually become not that good to me. So drink premium puerh at your own risk :mrgreen: This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 8 2010, 11:11 PM |
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Sep 9 2010, 11:40 PM
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Was having another tea session with another tea master.. here is what he has to share...
Why are some young raw puerh bitter? If brewing parameters are right, high chance the puerh is not from spring leaves. Spring leaves are of the better quality and should have no bitterness. Bitter young raw puerh is not good for health too. Don’t consume too much if you are on empty stomach. Either brew it at a lower temperature or let it age for some time, the bitterness ‘may’ go down. Why is ripe puerh not as health either? Ripe Pu-erh tea is made by fermentation of mold. If mold is not controlled well, it may be harmful to our body. How to smell tea (as in the brewed liquid form)? Higher quality tea’s aroma will smell like it is going down. Where normal/lower quality tea’s aroma will stay on top and the aroma is like going up. Why are aged puerh expensive? It is really good? ‘One’ of the reasons why aged puerh are expensive is because of the material it was made. Back then, demands are not a lot, most puerh uses good material from old trees. The better the material used then, the better it is and the more expensive it is now. Unfortunately, this is not the case now. Big factories have to target volume and delivery consistent quality; therefore they will mix up few different grades of leaves. If one were to buy puerh for aging… take lower grade leaves to age will not create miracle. Lower grade leaves will still be lower grade in the future. Where are all the high quality young puerh now? These days it is difficult to find good quality young puerh in big factories as the raw material they use is of average mix. High quality puerh must come from very old tree (from hundreds to thousands of age) planted at high latitude. These quality puerh are limited. Hardcore puerh hunters and collectors will usually purchase them. Some may even book ahead. Also, the local government will purchase these high quality puerh as part of their gift exchange culture. Therefore, quantity is not enough for export. Not to mention not many sellers willing to purchase expensive young puerh as it may be difficult to clear stock. Is loose young puerh better than compress? In order to compress, steam (heat and water) will be used upon the leaves. This will decrease the natural quality of the leaves. So loose puerh is in a way better as it is un-steamed. People have no choice but to compress puerh for convenient sake. Why is puerh from some of the famous mountain not worth to buy? Not because due to overpriced by demand. Not because of limited quantity. It is because the quality is not it supposed to be. In order to produce quantity from the demand for these famous mountain, some factories will apply fertilizer to increase output of the leaves. Some will even chop off the middle part of old trees so that leaves will start growing faster on the outer side of the tree, which makes it not the same old tree any more. When a famous mountain becomes commercial, quality will usually drop. Good news is, there are still many mountains in china. Added on September 9, 2010, 11:57 pmAccording to people from China who do tea business, many tea sellers are actually just businessmen. Many sellers do not know how to really taste good quality tea. Some may even buy at a cost they want regardless of what quality they may get so long the factory is willing to produce. Problem is not only with the sellers. There are many tea drinkers who are incapable of identifying what is good tea. This may be because:- -they were not taught how to taste properly -they may not have tasted better good quality tea to compare -they may be under the influenced of what other people says -they are just incapable of identifying the difference. Some people unfortunately falls under this category This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 10 2010, 10:54 AM |
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Sep 10 2010, 10:15 AM
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Sep 12 2010, 05:03 PM
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Had another day of tea marathon... 10 types of tea... lucky not tea drunk
3x puerh 1x yunnan black tea 1x yun feng (chinese green tea) 1x gyokuro 1x 7 years old vacuum pack oolong 1x li shan cha oolong 1x gold rush (scented tea) 1x white chrysanthemum (taste spicy, smells like those flower used for chinese praying) This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 12 2010, 07:09 PM |
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Sep 14 2010, 02:35 PM
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'Hand Leg Pu-erh' is direct translation from chinese which means 'Tampered Pu-erh'
My friend got this Ripe Tampered Pu-erh from a tea seller. According to the tea seller, someone from China gave this sample to him asking him to taste and if good to sell. This is actually young ripe, but tampered to look and taste at least 5 to 7 years old. For 250g, cost price is about USD2 and suggested selling price is about USD10. The tea seller didn't give the wrapping for the puerh, so I couldn't post the cover. Here are some photos.    From an inexperienced me, the material and colour of the tea looks fine. Aroma is not that strong but flavor is quite similar to my other 5 years old CNNP ripe. Smoothness and thickness is quite good compared to my 5 years CNNP. If one is not careful, and if wasn't informed. I think can be easily cheated by this. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 15 2010, 07:23 AM |
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Sep 14 2010, 07:47 PM
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What makes you think this tea has been tampered?
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Sep 14 2010, 08:18 PM
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Sep 14 2010, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(C-Note @ Sep 14 2010, 08:18 PM) You nearly made me ban 'Tea Tarik'  but after reading it, seems like it only disable the full potential of tea and is not harmful. |
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Sep 14 2010, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 14 2010, 07:47 PM) What makes you think this tea has been tampered? Cause tea seller admits it himself and he doesn't intend to sell. So he gave it to my friend as an 'education' |
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Sep 15 2010, 12:31 AM
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Shi Feng Long Jing
Brewing method: Boiling hot water poured into Shigaraki Kyusu. Left the water in it for 3 minutes to cool down. Then from Shigaraki Kyusu poured the water into a glass teapot for brewing. Tea Drinkers: Only me  3g : 150ml  First infusion: 1 minute Review: Colour of the tea is quite light. I somehow relate the aroma and flavor to Gyokuro but it doesn’t have the ‘soup’ and ‘seaweed’ taste of Gyokuro. Flavor is deeper and smoother compared to Gyokuro too. Upon drinking, I can immediately taste the sweetness on my tongue but only slight sweetness aftertaste in the throat. Second infusion: 10 seconds Review: Stronger flavor. Sweetness increased. Very obvious aftertaste in the tongue area but still not much in the throat area. Third infusion: 20 seconds Review: Flavor remains like the second infusion but started feeling strong aftertaste in my throat. The sweetness has gone to the throat. When I swallow my saliva, can feel sweetness too.  Fourth infusion: 30 seconds Review: Colour of the tea has gone down. Flavor and sweetness didn’t drop. Still tasty and good aftertaste in throat. Fifth infusion: 40 seconds Review: Flavor has gone down, but sweetness remains. Felt a bit tea drunk already. Sixth infusion: 50 seconds Review: Flavor quite similar to fifth infusion and the sweetness aftertaste in throat didn’t drop. I think by now anything I drink also will be sweet.  Seventh infusion: 60 seconds Review: Colour of the tea is quite similar to fourth infusion. Flavor drops quite a lot but sweetness didn’t drop a bit, but this may not be accurate. I tasted plain water, and it too tasted sweet. I think I have to stop here, nearly full… RAT problem!!! Took me 20 minutes hunting down the rat. Lucky managed to chase it out from the house. Eighth infusion: 80 seconds Review: Not much flavor. Light sweetness aftertaste in throat. Ok, enough infusions. Didn’t want to waste the leaves, so brewed this:  2 minutes : 250ml per infusion till the bottle is full. Going to put it in the fridge and try out cold brew the next morning.  Remaining Leaves Overall I’m very happy about this.Tasted plain water again, and it has sweetness. Not many teas can give me this kind of long lasting sweet aftertaste in the throat… |
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Sep 15 2010, 01:53 PM
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Longjing tea
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Sep 15 2010, 02:33 PM
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QUOTE(in Style @ Sep 15 2010, 01:53 PM) Longjing tea Indeed it is nice~ QUOTE(auhckw) 2 minutes : 250ml per infusion till the bottle is full. Going to put it in the fridge and try out cold brew the next morning. Ok, feedback on the left over brew. No more Long Jing flavor. Very light flavor, which I can't relate to Long Jing. The aftertaste sweetness in throat reappears from drinking this. Drinking plain water after 30 minutes also gives some sweetness in throat. |
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Sep 17 2010, 09:49 AM
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Copper-Tin Teapot
Some new lovely teapots in store @ Hojo. This is their upcoming new teaware after Shigaraki Kyusu.    QUOTE Beaten copper-tin teapot is the traditional hand craft of Nigata. This teapot was made from one single piece of copper plate laminated with 99.99% of tin, and beaten repeatedly until it forms the shape of a teapot. I tried it side by side with their Shigaraki Kyusu, and this Copper tin Teapot is somehow similar. Both are good but I couldn't feel a big difference in both only slight difference in character of the water that came out. Thanks to the tin on the inside layer, this material makes dramatic changes to the taste of tea. Taste of tea is much smoother and flavor intensified. Price wise for this Copper tin Teapot is not that cheap. You can check in in their online store. Nearly double the price of the Shigaraki Kyusu. Will I buy? Yes unless I am a teaware collector who has plenty of money. Unfortunately I am not, so I wouldn't purchase since Shigaraki is already very good to me and I love the clay design more. |
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Sep 17 2010, 10:29 AM
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I don't think it change the taste of tea. Rather it changes the taste of the water.
It is much better off to buy a good mineral water or collect spring water yourself. Copper teapot is useless if you do not have quality water to begin with. |
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Sep 17 2010, 10:46 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 17 2010, 10:29 AM) I don't think it change the taste of tea. Rather it changes the taste of the water. Correct. I have recently found out a problem.It is much better off to buy a good mineral water or collect spring water yourself. Copper teapot is useless if you do not have quality water to begin with. Whenever I am at the teashop the tea there always tasted better, but I couldn't get the same kick at home. So I did an experiment. I brought along my water and my brewing equipments to the teashop. Upon testing, we concluded that the equipments seems fine, but the water is the problem. Side by side comparison showed that the tea brewed using my water is somehow less tasty/flavoring. So what water system am I using at home? Outside the house: http://www.diamondmasterfilter.com/diamond_master_filter.htm In the kitchen, this is the water filter I use for drinking/boiling: http://www.diamondmasterfilter.com/diamond_energy_water.htm Quite disappointed with the outcome of the filter, but what can I do... |
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Sep 17 2010, 11:19 AM
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It is said that Spring Puerh is of the best quality compared to other seasons. But the question is how do you determine it is from Spring???
Here are some info I got from a tea seller:- 1) Spring Puerh does not carry bitterness. If it is bitter, it is not spring Puerh 2) The date printed on the packing of the Puerh does not necessary mean it is from Spring. The date is referred to packing date. This makes it even harder to identify 3) Packing of some small factories are totally ridiculous and non standardized. I have experience seeing Puerh of the exact same packing and dates but was told that the inner Puerh is of different season. Price range is so much different. 4) It has to come down to tasting the Puerh. Problem is, how are you sure by tasting it even with no bitterness it is Spring? So what is your opinion? How do you select? |
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Sep 17 2010, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 10:46 AM) Correct. I have recently found out a problem. If you got budget, you can go to purple cane teashop and see how they stored the water.Whenever I am at the teashop the tea there always tasted better, but I couldn't get the same kick at home. So I did an experiment. I brought along my water and my brewing equipments to the teashop. Upon testing, we concluded that the equipments seems fine, but the water is the problem. Side by side comparison showed that the tea brewed using my water is somehow less tasty/flavoring. One less expensive way is to stored your water in the porcelain jar for a couple of days. Buy bamboo charcoal and put in the water. The water will taste better this way. |
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Sep 17 2010, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 17 2010, 09:26 PM) If you got budget, you can go to purple cane teashop and see how they stored the water. Any idea where to buy bamboo charcoal in PJ/KL area?One less expensive way is to stored your water in the porcelain jar for a couple of days. Buy bamboo charcoal and put in the water. The water will taste better this way. |
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Sep 17 2010, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 11:19 AM) It is said that Spring Puerh is of the best quality compared to other seasons. But the question is how do you determine it is from Spring??? After finish drinking, pour the tea leaves in a bowl. Now check how many tea bud can you find. Summer tea leaves are very coarse. If you find many broken tea leaves, this also shows poor quality of tea leaves.Here are some info I got from a tea seller:- 1) Spring Puerh does not carry bitterness. If it is bitter, it is not spring Puerh 2) The date printed on the packing of the Puerh does not necessary mean it is from Spring. The date is referred to packing date. This makes it even harder to identify 3) Packing of some small factories are totally ridiculous and non standardized. I have experience seeing Puerh of the exact same packing and dates but was told that the inner Puerh is of different season. Price range is so much different. 4) It has to come down to tasting the Puerh. Problem is, how are you sure by tasting it even with no bitterness it is Spring? So what is your opinion? How do you select? Added on September 17, 2010, 9:38 pm QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 17 2010, 09:30 PM) Any idea where to buy bamboo charcoal in PJ/KL area? Last time I bought it from Popular Bookstore. Some supermarket also sell them. Just ask around.This post has been edited by cuebiz: Sep 17 2010, 09:38 PM |
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Sep 17 2010, 10:34 PM
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My father is a heavy smoker, now in his 80s, started smoking when he was 11 as he came from fishing village. He drinks Chinese tea his whole life. One thing that I always believe is that by drinking Chinese tea, it helps to neutralise the smoking effects and helps prolong his life. Although I can't say he is perfectly healthy at his age.
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Sep 17 2010, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 17 2010, 09:33 PM) Last time I bought it from Popular Bookstore. Some supermarket also sell them. Just ask around. Last place I would look for it, but thanks for pointing the direction. Will ask around there.QUOTE(stacko @ Sep 17 2010, 10:34 PM) My father is a heavy smoker, now in his 80s, started smoking when he was 11 as he came from fishing village. He drinks Chinese tea his whole life. One thing that I always believe is that by drinking Chinese tea, it helps to neutralise the smoking effects and helps prolong his life. Although I can't say he is perfectly healthy at his age. I once asked a doctor why some people heavy smoker / liquor drinker but still no problem at such old age.He said, everyone has cancer cells. If you have the cancer that relates to smoking or drinking, it will activate the cancer cells faster even if you take in little volume. So if you don't have that cancer cells, it will be lower chance to get problems even if you take a lot. |
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Sep 19 2010, 09:56 PM
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Today went tea shop and managed to sample few aged raw and ripe puerh.
20+ years Raw puerh: USD 650 / beeng: Old is Old. Tasted old. Flavor is old. Very little aftertaste. Smooth. 15+ years Raw puerh: USD 250 / beeng: Tasted less old. Has light smokiness. This pu when it was young has strong smokiness, but over the years has gone down. Dry. Very little aftertaste. 15+ years Ripe puerh: USD 200 / beeng: Little flavor. Smooth. Very little aftertaste. I probably shouldn't rule out in general, but for today's puerh tasting, the impression that aged puerh gives me is that I don't like it. Aged puerh has less flavor, lacks aftertaste and tasted like dirt. I think this is very much an acquired taste. |
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Sep 20 2010, 01:30 AM
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You must be very lucky to sample aged tea. Usually, tea owner will not brew them unless they know you very well.
I have tried an early 80s 7542 cake and I must say there are still bitterness. Still can keep for aging. To really appreciate aged tea, it must at least be more than 30 years ++. Here, we are lucky that we can still buy and drink aged liu bao tea at affordable prices. |
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Sep 21 2010, 09:38 PM
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Just bought this...
Xia Guan Golden Ribbon Puer Tea 2010 357g Raw     Usually I don't fancy young xia guan puerh cause it tend to have their signature smokiness. But this Golden Ribbon XY is made from a different person / modified formula. There is no smokiness and it is easy to drink being a young raw. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 21 2010, 10:28 PM |
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Sep 22 2010, 10:49 AM
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My opinion on how to start the puerh journey...
QUOTE("auhckw") I categorized puerh in these categories:- Young Ripe (cheap) Young Ripe (expensive) Young Raw (cheap) Young Raw (expensive) Aged Ripe (5 to 15) Super Aged Ripe (15 and above) Aged Raw (5 to 15) Super Aged Raw (15 and above) Puerh is somehow an acquired taste (especially for aged puerh), so sample in categories and see which one you fall into. Sometimes it may take awhile before you will acquire the liking for puerh, so take your time. Once you have identified which category and specific type of puerh you like, then it is easier for your selection. Not everyone likes aged. Not all young raw are hard to drink. So sample sample sample. For puerh, there is a Up and Down in terms of its character/taste. When it is Down it will lose its flavor and taste, but it doesn't mean that piece of puerh is gone. It 'may' still go Up but this may take from days, weeks or even years. So don't throw away your puerh when it is Down. Keep it aside for future tasting. When tasting, always go for ripe first then only raw. Preferably you drink in sequence of grade too, from low to high. Reason, raw taste is stronger than ripe. So if you tasted raw first, you cannot fully enjoy the ripe. Same goes for grade sequence, higher grade will overwrite the lower grade. For a start, go for Big Factory Puerh such as Menghai-Dayi then Xia Guan then explore the rest as you go. These days it is 'safer' to buy from big factories be it genuine or cleanliness. If you are lost and don't know where to start, go for standard recipe such as Dayi's 7542 (raw), 8582 (raw), 7452 (ripe), 7572 (ripe). Then you can venture into their more special/premium editions. Next venture can be more specific to which mountain you like too. But take note when they say eg, Bulang mountain, this mountain area can be very very big. Not all quality are the same. But in general, if the leaves are from very old trees (hundreds to thousands of years old) and is at high altitude then it 'should' be better. Don't be surprise with the price difference when it come to these criteria. Also, first batch puerh are usually better. You can identify the batch by the number on the packing. Eg. Year 2009's first batch will be labeled 901, Year 2010's first batch will be labeled 001, and so on... Another thing to look for is, Spring tea is usually better than other season's harvest, but this can be hard to identify especially when it come to big factories where they usually mix the leaves. I don't buy tea online, but here are some places i look for puerh reference:- http://www.yunnansourcing.com/store/ http://stores.ebay.com/Dragon-Tea-House A chinese seller for new products and price reference: http://goodtea114.taobao.com I don't know how to read chinese, but looking at the pictures and google translator helps |
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Sep 22 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE A tea seller was sharing his experience with me that back then young raw can be very hazardous to drink. He knows some other sellers who has actually admitted into hospital because of the tasting too many young raw. Can be damaging to liver and if serious lungs. ~Lesson from JYH~The good news is that these days younger raw are easier to drink, but here are his advise:- 1) Don't drink young raw with empty stomach 2) If you drink young raw, compensate back by the same amount of water 3) Drink age raw or ripe |
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Sep 22 2010, 03:38 PM
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Hi, found this interesting yet informative thread, I love chinese tea too.
I started chinese tea since 12 years ago, following friends to tea shop and get 'hooked' lol. I started with Oolong tea (such as Tie Quan Yin, etc.) then Green Tea (Long Jing, Mei Jia Wu, etc.) and three years ago, started with Pu-Er. Like most of ppl, I do not like Pu-Er initially as was cheated with bad quality Pu-Er, after few years later, during one of the tea exhibitions, someone introduced me various type of Pu-Er like previous posts stated, young raw, old ripe Pu-Er, etc. I started with young raw Pu-Er as it is easy to get adapt, slowly I also start liking the old ripe Pu-Er. Two year ago, I have bought Xia Guan (下关）Duo Cha and Yi Wu （易武）spring young raw Pu-Er (three rolls, each roll with seven pcs), keep them in well ventilated space/clay pot (紫砂）for natural fermentation. Starting to learn to differentiate taste of different years of Yi Wu young raw Pu-Er. Just to share a brief story of my tea experience, there are lot more to learn and experience from this thread. Added on September 22, 2010, 3:42 pm QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 22 2010, 10:50 AM) ~Lesson from JYH~ My recent medical report showed that my ALT/APT (liver) are higher than the normal, could it be the cause of young raw Pu-Er tea? Usually I drink around 3 - 5 pm during weekend approximately 500ml.This post has been edited by auronthas: Sep 22 2010, 03:43 PM |
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Sep 22 2010, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Sep 22 2010, 03:38 PM) Hi, found this interesting yet informative thread, I love chinese tea too. Glad to hear from you.I started chinese tea since 12 years ago, following friends to tea shop and get 'hooked' lol. I started with Oolong tea (such as Tie Quan Yin, etc.) then Green Tea (Long Jing, Mei Jia Wu, etc.) and three years ago, started with Pu-Er. Like most of ppl, I do not like Pu-Er initially as was cheated with bad quality Pu-Er, after few years later, during one of the tea exhibitions, someone introduced me various type of Pu-Er like previous posts stated, young raw, old ripe Pu-Er, etc. I started with young raw Pu-Er as it is easy to get adapt, slowly I also start liking the old ripe Pu-Er. Two year ago, I have bought Xia Guan (下关）Duo Cha and Yi Wu （易武）spring young raw Pu-Er (three rolls, each roll with seven pcs), keep them in well ventilated space/clay pot (紫砂）for natural fermentation. Starting to learn to differentiate taste of different years of Yi Wu young raw Pu-Er. Just to share a brief story of my tea experience, there are lot more to learn and experience from this thread. Added on September 22, 2010, 3:42 pm My recent medical report showed that my ALT/APT (liver) are higher than the normal, could it be the cause of young raw Pu-Er tea? Usually I drink around 3 - 5 pm during weekend approximately 500ml. So when the result showed higher ALT/APT (liver), what did the doctor say to make it stable? I have been on 1liter+ consistently daily for past 4 months. A little worry myself, but just couldn't resist to drink on. Is there any symptom of pain, etc? |
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Sep 22 2010, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 22 2010, 04:16 PM) Glad to hear from you. Sorry out of topic So when the result showed higher ALT/APT (liver), what did the doctor say to make it stable? I have been on 1liter+ consistently daily for past 4 months. A little worry myself, but just couldn't resist to drink on. Is there any symptom of pain, etc? I have had the same problem 2 years ago, after taking some chinese medicine and have medical check, it's back to normal. However, the recent medical checkup, the ALT/APT went up again, there are many possibilities, fatty liver, toxic, hepatitis-carrier, etc. There's no symptom of pain as there's no nerves around liver, that's why ALT/APT is a precaution test on your liver condition. I have read some books and online, the best cure on liver is to have enough sleep/rest, exercise, as liver is our 'sewerage treatment plant'. Btw, I also consumed around 1 litre per day, I will cut down probably to 0.5 litre on young raw pu-er. I will go for further medical checkup by end of the year. |
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Sep 22 2010, 09:37 PM
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Many teamaster will not recommend their customer to consume young raw puer especially if it is from the bush plantation. This also true for Oolong and green tea. You just have to practise moderate drinking.
I know of a teamaster who do to his work nature, have to test numerous young raw puer and later got stomach complain. After that, he could only eat porridge for almost a week in order to heal. |
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Sep 22 2010, 11:39 PM
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Few days ago I was having some aged puerh and wasn't so satisfied with it. Today, I managed to try this and it blew me away.
Early 90s Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh This is >15 <20 years old. The seller couldn't tell the exact year as the original keeper couldn't remember. This is sold in loose form.  The box is not the original packing. Given free.  Looks old and has strong old aroma from the dry leaves.  First infusion (30s). Colour looks quite brownish red. Taste is quite unique. It does not have the strong young ripe flavor. Flavor was light but smooth. It has the oldness taste but not dirt taste. It has a little chinese herb kind of flavor. Quite good aftertaste in the throat (sweetness). Smooth. No smokiness. No bitterness.  Sixth infusion (3mins). Colour has gone much lighter. Flavor has done down, but the good oldness taste is still there.  The leaves. Overall I'm quite happy with this. I only bought 150g, if this keeps getting as good as today's session, I may purchase more. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 28 2010, 09:45 PM |
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Sep 22 2010, 11:45 PM
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 For years I have been eating mooncake without tea. This is the first time and I am quite impressed that it blends so well. Mooncake is very sweet and it makes puerh goes even smoother in the throat. Getting HIGH on sugar and a good aged ripe puerh This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 22 2010, 11:46 PM |
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Sep 26 2010, 09:38 PM
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2010 – Royal Court Gong Ting – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh - 200g
*This may not be the proper english name for this puerh, I just roughly guess the translation      Had some samples b4 buying. Very 'ooomp' kind of taste. Flavor is very strong. Can feel the aftertaste in throat on the first cup itself. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 26 2010, 09:39 PM |
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Sep 26 2010, 09:40 PM
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2009 – Taetea Golden Brick – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh - 1kg
    Why oh why is the packing so nice... This is the first time production for this recipe. No samples to try, but I'm buying this for collection and in future a gift (i'm thinking this as 1 of the wedding gifts) for my son (currently 11 months+) when he is big enough to appreciate This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 26 2010, 09:42 PM |
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Sep 27 2010, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 26 2010, 09:38 PM) 2010 – Royal Court Gong Ting – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh - 200g Hi there. "Gong ting" means palace, in this case it means "imperial grade puerh". When u see this term being used, normally the tea uses shoots as primary material, that's why the strong flavor. But from what I heard, puerh using gong ting material will lose its flavor faster because of its finer buds that's why it's not meant for long term storage.*This may not be the proper english name for this puerh, I just roughly guess the translation <images> Had some samples b4 buying. Very 'ooomp' kind of taste. Flavor is very strong. Can feel the aftertaste in throat on the first cup itself. |
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Sep 27 2010, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Sep 27 2010, 03:50 AM) Hi there. "Gong ting" means palace, in this case it means "imperial grade puerh". When u see this term being used, normally the tea uses shoots as primary material, that's why the strong flavor. But from what I heard, puerh using gong ting material will lose its flavor faster because of its finer buds that's why it's not meant for long term storage. Correct. I heard the same too.I bought some early 90s Gong ting puerh that uses the same kind of leaves. Not sure how it tasted when it was young, but after all the years the flavor is still good just not strong. |
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Sep 28 2010, 09:44 PM
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Last week I bought this:-
Early 90s Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh - 150g » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « No brand, Unknown maker... but the taste is superb. Couldn't resist and so... 2KG  *Box is not the original box. The original box is just ordinary cardboard box  This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 28 2010, 10:13 PM |
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Sep 28 2010, 10:14 PM
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6th infusion already diluted. Not really high quality tea leaves.
Get ready your bullets, the 6th Malaysia Puer tea fair is on Nov |
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Sep 28 2010, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 28 2010, 10:14 PM) 6th infusion already diluted. Not really high quality tea leaves. 2 tea sellers told me b4 that the older the ripe puerh tea gets, the faster it get diluted.Get ready your bullets, the 6th Malaysia Puer tea fair is on Nov Added on September 28, 2010, 10:29 pmPuerh fair... nice but i think i have to slow down my purchase. Space getting limited. Wife getting angry Added on September 28, 2010, 10:32 pmSpeaking of non diluted puerh, I had some 90s Lao Cha Dou. Those are in chunks. The seller said he tried brewing it for 30 infusions and it never gets diluted. I sampled it, but the taste was average only so didn't purchase. 1/2 the price of the one i purchased above. This post has been edited by auhckw: Sep 28 2010, 10:32 PM |
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Sep 29 2010, 07:36 PM
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I think around 6 infusions is normal for gongting material. Gongting material is made up of highest grade (youngest) tea leaves, its contents are normally less compared to those of lower grades. Also due to its finer size its contents are more easily released hence its strong flavor and easily diluted.
The number of infusions, I think it really depends on the amount of tea leaves used. If u brew it under normal circumstances, I don't think 30 rounds without getting diluted is achievable... Also, lao cha tou are basically leftovers from the wodui process, whether it's clean enough to be consumed or not really depends on the wodui environment. I'd suggest only going for big factories or at least reputable ones for lao cha tou. This post has been edited by PSG-1: Sep 29 2010, 07:41 PM |
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Sep 30 2010, 05:40 PM
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Coming from Green Tea, Puerh Tea... this is my very first time tasting Earl Grey - Ceylon tea.
First impression on the smell of the dry tea leaves is, what a weird strong smell. After tasting it, the smell and taste gave me goose bumps. I tried to finish my glass, but just couldn't... it tasted very alien.     |
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Sep 30 2010, 09:55 PM
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I prefer Darjeeling when comes to ceylon tea
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Oct 1 2010, 09:43 PM
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I was planning to do experiment on expressing the crack of my celadon gaiwan. So I decided to soak it with Ripe Puerh.
This is the Ripe Puerh beeng. I took a big chunk and dump it into a cooking pot...  After boiling it...  While I was playing around with the leaves...  Here is what I found among the leaves...  |
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Oct 2 2010, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 1 2010, 09:43 PM) I was planning to do experiment on expressing the crack of my celadon gaiwan. So I decided to soak it with Ripe Puerh. Can u give a front cover screenshot? Well, it happens at times, especially in unknown factories. I have had the same thing before but what I found is a nail. This is the Ripe Puerh beeng. I took a big chunk and dump it into a cooking pot... <pic> After boiling it... <pic> While I was playing around with the leaves... <pic> Here is what I found among the leaves... <pic> This post has been edited by PSG-1: Oct 2 2010, 02:46 AM |
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Oct 2 2010, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Oct 2 2010, 02:46 AM) Can u give a front cover screenshot? Well, it happens at times, especially in unknown factories. I have had the same thing before but what I found is a nail.  *Not my photo, but is the same cover. Understandable that these kind of things happens. Lucky is not some insect ie Lizard, Cockroach, Spider, Beatles, etc. Would be more disgusting. My only consolation is hopefully the hair pin belongs to some sexy lady Anyway, I'm leaving that beeng aside and won't be consuming it anymore... |
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Oct 2 2010, 11:46 AM
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Well, for this brand "Chinatea", there are a lot of imitation products in the market. In fact, fake ones outnumber genuine ones.
One should be careful when purchasing teas of this brand especially those which are claimed to be produced before 2006. |
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Oct 3 2010, 12:21 AM
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In the old days, there are no QS. So it is not surprised to get extra special gift in the cake.
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Oct 3 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Sep 30 2010, 05:40 PM) Coming from Green Tea, Puerh Tea... this is my very first time tasting Earl Grey - Ceylon tea. First impression on the smell of the dry tea leaves is, what a weird strong smell. After tasting it, the smell and taste gave me goose bumps. I tried to finish my glass, but just couldn't... it tasted very alien. I have been drinking Earl Grey since a long time ago. It is an acquired taste meaning either you like it or you don't. It is actually ceylon tea infused with bergamot ( a citrus like fruit ). Many of my friends, when I serve them Earl Grey, they say it tasted like soap powder .  I drink chinese tea or green tea very sparingly unless I am eating Bak Kut Teh as I find chinese tea kind of cleanses the heavy oil that I absorb. As for ceylon tea, I take it quite heavily. When I was staying in Cameron Highlands, the tea that I bought there tasted so much nicer than here in KL even when I bought the same packing and brand! Probably their freshness. That's why when I visit CH, I used to visit the Palas plantation and buy lots of them back. I missed those days when I used to have dinner under the stars ( lo teen ) in Tanah Rata. When the cold wind is blowing and you are cupping yours hands over a HOT glass of teh-O, tasted like heaven Not even expensive tea can give me a feeling like that.This post has been edited by etigge: Oct 3 2010, 09:46 AM |
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Oct 3 2010, 09:46 AM
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I tot they are the same since it is packed in cans. Only in CH you can get it much cheaper from the shops
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Oct 4 2010, 10:04 PM
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Dong Dao Ru Kiln Lucky Pot (Sky Green)
According to the seller, this is Tiger (Chinese Zodiac) year Teapot. Limited to 2,000 units only. Size about 140ml / 5oz. Surprisingly, the water flow out is smooth. Cover is fit on nicely. I tried positioning the pot about 100 degrees and the cover still didn't show sign of falling off. When pressed on the hole on the cover, the water will stop flowing.    http://www.gzhengfu.com/info_content1.jsp?bar_id=7&id=24989 Added on October 4, 2010, 11:15 pmGoogle can be confusing...  东道汝窑吉壶 East Road Ruyao Ji pot 虎形壶钮和龙口形壶把。壶钮上的老虎造型一改传统的威武雄壮样貌， Tiger-shaped pot-shaped pot the button and Longkou. Tiger on the pot button changed the traditional shape of magnificent appearance, 一脸天真烂漫，品茶间难免莞尔一笑。 Look innocent, tea rooms inevitably smiled. 采用露胎处理（即不上釉），素雅釉色与粗矿泥料对比， Treatment with exposed tires (ie, not glazed), elegant and coarse mineral mud glaze contrast, 突出釉色的质感及泥料的质朴感。 Outstanding texture and glaze the simple sense of mud. 壶身圆润饱满，手感极佳，恰似能容天下难容之事的大肚， Royal Coffee Pot rounded and full, feel good, like the capacity to accommodate the world of things difficult for Tatu, 谦让包容，天下太平为“吉”。 Humility, tolerance, peace and harmony as "Kat." Added on October 5, 2010, 8:05 amThese are the other 2 special edition teapots that the shop has too, I decided to choose the tiger cause this is Tiger year (the year I started having tea as hobby) and it looked cute to me.  http://www.gzhengfu.com/info_content1.jsp?bar_id=7&id=24987  http://www.gzhengfu.com/info_content1.jsp?bar_id=7&id=24988 This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 5 2010, 07:33 PM |
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Oct 5 2010, 05:23 PM
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Earl Grey is caplang tea. For teas from the Subcontinent, I would stick to unflavoured teas. Darjeeling and Assam are good as are some of the Ceylonese ones like Nuwara Eliya or Kandy. Nepal produces some interesting teas as well. My favourite is Ilam. Unique flavour.
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Oct 5 2010, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 4 2010, 10:04 PM) Celadon Ru Kiln Tiger Teapot I think you been misled. Where got limited to 2000? China population is so huge and it won't arrive here if it produces only limited units.According to the seller, this is Tiger (Chinese Zodiac) year Teapot. Limited to 2,000 units only. |
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Oct 5 2010, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 5 2010, 07:11 PM) I think you been misled. Where got limited to 2000? China population is so huge and it won't arrive here if it produces only limited units. Haha... Correct. I wasn't taking what they say bout that seriously.But they do have a Limited edition teapot+2 cups set. It is serialized on the teapot +cup and comes with a wood certificate stating the same serial number... Added on October 5, 2010, 9:10 pmHere is the photo of the limited edition. Photos not mine   This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 6 2010, 10:30 PM |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:30 PM
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Just got this today
Dong Dao Ru Kiln Sunflower Drinking Cup (Moon White)  |
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Oct 6 2010, 10:42 PM
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Finally got myself a Tea Pet
Dong Dao Ru Kiln Good Fortune Ox Tea Pet Heng Fu (Sky Green)  |
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Oct 7 2010, 11:51 PM
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Oct 8 2010, 02:45 PM
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I was at a tea shop and the owner said there is some serious problem with tea in China and the government has prohibited the selling of tea. The owner said there will be definitely shortage of tea soon.
So I came back and start digging.... here is the news:- Excessive pesticide residue found in tea products: Taipei http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/local/t...e-pesticide.htm Updated Tuesday, September 7, 2010 3:24 am TWN, CNA TAIPEI -- Three out of 36 tea products tested in the capital contained excessive pesticide residue, according to results of the Taipei City government's latest food safety checks released on Monday. The substandard products include Jinxuan Oolong from Teatalker on Changchun Road, oolong from the Bade teahouse on Bade Road and oolong from the Taiwan Handicraft Promotion Center chain store at the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall, the Taipei City Department of Health report showed. The products were all found to have excessive amounts of residue of pesticides including fenpropathrin, imidacloprid, methomyl and fipronil. The city has pulled the products off shelves, prohibited businesses from selling them and launched an investigation into the sources, health officials said. Chiang Yu-mei, a senior technical specialist at the city health department, said pesticide residue in tea can cause nausea and vomiting, while increasing the risk of liver problems. She suggests consumers use hot water that is at least 80 degrees Celsius to make tea and to avoid drinking the first round of tea because most pesticides used by local farmers are water soluble. The local government conducts annual safety checks on randomly selected tea products in the city. In 2008 and 2009, no samples were found to contain excessive pesticide residue, according to city health officials. Media reports, however, prompted the city to conduct a special test on oolong tea sold at the National Palace Museum souvenir shop in 2009, and the tea was discovered to contain pesticide residue. |
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Oct 8 2010, 03:18 PM
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2006 Kunming 7581 Ripe Pu-erh Tea Brick
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Oct 8 2010, 05:42 PM
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'Tea bubble' brews in China
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...s-in-China.html Published: 9:00PM BST 01 Oct 2010 Chinese financial speculators are caught in a buying frenzy for a variety of tea that has seen its prices soar to levels only rivalled by the finest wines. The rare tea made from bushes from the tea gardens of the Ming Dynasty emperors has become the latest craze for wealthy Chinese investors with their sights on a quick profit. Prices for the Dahongpao tea, which is only grown in a small mountainous area of east coast province of Fujian, have increased tenfold since the middle of last year with online tea traders selling a single kilo for more than £1,000, the country's state media has reported. "I never thought it would get so expensive," a tea producer, Wu Zongyan said. "It's one price one day, another price another day. Between when we pick the leaves and when it's ready to sell, the price has already gone up." Chinese traditionally prize tea as the symbolic heart of national culture and believe that in varieties and taste differentials rival that of wine. China is prone to extreme speculative bubbles as opportunity-starved investors seek a home for their cash outside the traditional venues of the stock and property markets which are themselves notoriously volatile and speculative. In the past year auction houses in China and Hong Kong have all reported fetching record prices for everything from Imperial artwork to French claret and, most recently, Communist-era stamps as speculators search for an outlet for their money. CCTV, the state broadcaster has reported that the classic signs of a bubble were already evident in the Dahongpao tea trade, with the number of shops selling the tea in Wuyi, the town where the tea is produced, leaping from 200 to 1,500. As with fine wine, dealers are also reporting fake teas are starting to appear on the market in another sign that the bubble might be about to burst. An online tea trader told the The Daily Telegraph said prices had risen on he back of demonstrably absurd rumours – including that all Dahongpao tea came from just six bushes. In reality, genuine Dahongpao is said to come from bushes propagated from six trees that were originally planted to serve the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644) emperors. This is not the first time China has had a 'tea bubble'. In 2008 prices of Pu'er tea, a dark blend from southwestern Yunnan province suddenly spike to several thousand pounds a kilo. Investors believed prices would be kept buoyant by a report that China's Olympic Games committee would put a tin of Pu'er tea on every competitor's bed – but prices soon crashed back down to earth. But the level of interest in teas for investment is likely to rise as wealth levels increase. Chinese diplomats fondly recall President Richard Nixon's dismay that Chairman Mao Tse-tung offered him an official gift of 100 tea leaves on his ground-breaking visit to China in 1972. It fell to another Chinese leader to explain that the quantity represented half the wealth of China. |
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Oct 9 2010, 10:46 AM
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Black tea drinks found to have high bacteria, E. coli levels: CF
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/2010/10...3/Black-tea.htm Updated Saturday, October 2, 2010 0:12 am TWN, The China Post news staff Many establishments serving popular black tea beverages were found with bacteria and germs that surpassed the amount deemed safe by the Consumers' Foundation (CF), which unveiled the report yesterday. Jumbo-sized drinks were especially prone to incubating such bacteria. Tests conducted by the foundation showed 53 percent of all extra-large cups used for drinks had cultivated some type of bacteria, especially those sold in night markets. One drinks establishment at the Taipei Raohe night market, called “A-Hau,” was singled out for having large amounts of the E. coli bacteria. The CF study was conducted in August. Classifying jumbo-sized drinks as those with a volume of 1000cc and above, the foundation said such drinks are usually priced between NT$20 and NT$25 and especially popular with students. Such drinks often contain the flavoring Coumarin and other preservatives, the CF said, adding that all drinks showed limited amounts of both when they underwent testing. However, the “A-Hau” branch in the Raohe night market failed safety standards due to the high amount of bacteria and E. coli found in its drinks. According to the CF, the problem could lie with the water or ice cubes used in the drinks, which likely became contaminated at one point. It could also be that the environment in which the drinks are served is unclean. |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:16 AM
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Oh my... sounds serious
北京停售7种含农药茶叶 部分发现含有稀土元素 http://china.rednet.cn/c/2010/10/07/2082451.htm 2010/10/7 16:18:05 节日期间选购食品的消费者需要当心了，据北京市工商局今日通报，有17种问题食品全市停售，其中包括7种含有违禁农药的茶叶(详情请登录工商局网站查询)。 问题茶叶品种涉及乌龙茶、铁观音、普洱、茉莉花茶，分别从前门华都百货、购乐多超市、迪亚天天四路通店发现。停售原因主要是茶叶含有违禁农药残留“三氯杀螨醇”。据了解，此类农药不易降解，容易残留蓄积，饮用三氯杀螨醇超标的茶叶，会影响身体健康。据专家介绍，我国禁止“三氯杀螨醇”用于茶叶生产，农残超标主要是茶树鲜叶在生长过程中需治理各种病虫害，而使用农药不当或施用农药后安全间隔期不够就进行采茶，就会造成茶叶产品农药残留量超标。 本次停售的茶叶中还有部分发现含有稀土元素。专家表示，稀土作为植物的生长、生理调节剂，对茶叶种植具有增产、改善品质等特点，但是不合理地使用稀土，会造成茶叶中残留量超标，对人体健康造成危害。 除了发现茶叶不合格，北京祥聚源食品有限公司生产的香糕还发现甜蜜素超标。市工商局提醒市民：凡已购买不合格食品的消费者，可凭购物小票和食品外包装向销售单位要求退货。 (记者杨滨) Google Translate Beijing to stop selling pesticides containing 7 parts found to contain rare earth elements in tea leaves Consumers to buy food during the holiday season better be careful, according to Beijing Municipal Bureau of Commerce and Industry informed today, there are 17 kinds of problems the city to stop selling food, including 7 species of tea contain prohibited pesticides (For details, please visit the website of Industry and Commerce Bureau.) Issues related varieties of tea Oolong tea, Tie Guan Yin, Pu'er tea, jasmine tea, respectively, both through the front door of China department store, share music and more supermarkets, shops Dia four lead to discovery. The main reason is the sale of prohibited pesticide residues in tea "dicofol." It is understood that the degradation of these pesticides is not easy, easy to residual accumulation of excessive tea drinking dicofol, will affect their health. According to experts, China's ban "dicofol" for tea production, excessive pesticide residues in fresh tea is mainly required during the growth of a variety of pest control, improper use of pesticides or the application of pesticides is not enough to secure the tea interval to will cause excessive pesticide residues in tea products. The sale of the tea and partly found to contain rare earth elements. Experts said the rare earth as the plant growth, physiological regulator of tea cultivation with output, improve quality and other characteristics, but the inappropriate use of rare earth, will result in excessive residues in tea to human health hazard. In addition to the tea found unqualified, Xiang Ju Yuan Food Co., Ltd. Beijing Production cake also found that excessive sodium cyclamate. City of Industry, warned the public: Where consumers have purchased substandard food, rely on store receipts and requests for sales of food packaging to return. (Xinhua Yang Bin) |
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Oct 9 2010, 11:30 AM
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7种茶叶阻碍胎儿发育被禁
http://goo.yikuo.com/news/2010-10-08/1307_...1307794653.html 2010-10-8 11:10 北京市工商局发现市面上7种茶叶，含有违禁农药“三氯杀螨醇”及“稀土”元素，民众食用后恐有碍健康，甚至影响胎儿发育。当局表示现已要求相关单位全面停售。 中通社引述北京工商局指，经检验后，市面17种食品须全面停售，其中包括7种含有违禁农药“三氯杀螨醇”及“稀土”元素的茶叶。报道指，7种茶叶分别从市面多间超级市场发现，茶叶品种包括乌龙茶、铁观音、普洱及茉莉花茶。 据悉，“三氯杀螨醇”可用作杀虫剂，但由于这种农药不易分解，加上使用不当或安全分隔时间不足，容易造成农药残留，人类食用后可能影响胎儿发育，内地法律禁止茶叶生产中使用三氯杀螨醇。另外，专家指稀土能作为植物生长调节剂，有助增加产量和改善品质，但使用不当，亦会造成稀土残留，过量摄取或会抑制体内凝血因子的活性。 除了发现茶叶不合格，北京祥聚源食品有限公司生产的香糕还发现甜蜜素超标。市工商局提醒市民：凡已购买不合格食品的消费者，可凭购物小票和食品外包装向销售单位要求退货。 北京市工商局公布的食品下架7种查出了违禁农药的茶叶中，其中不少来自福建安溪。 “泡出来的都是茶叶梗和碎叶子。”网购茶叶的宋小姐告诉记者，卖这款茶叶礼盒的网店店主说自己就是茶农，所以价格能比市面上同质量的铁观音便宜一半。当时她信以为真，直到拿到茶叶礼盒时才发现被骗了。 像宋小姐这种情况并不在少数。同样在网店买到劣质茶叶的李先生告诉记者，由于网店没有对礼盒中的茶叶进行明确的描述，对于他的投诉，网站的管理者也表示无能为力。 从事网络茶叶销售的杨阳告诉记者，在网购茶叶中，以次充好、以普通产地的茶冒充知名产地茶、以陈茶冒充新茶等情况非常常见。“像以福建龙井冒充西湖龙井的，一般的顾客根本分辨不了。” 虽然网购茶叶有种种弊端，但是成交额却在逐年上涨。记者了解到，淘宝网去年茶叶整体的销售额为3.5亿元。而到今年3月中，茶叶交易额就已经比去年翻了一倍，达到了7亿元。 Google Translate Tea hinder fetal development 7 banned Beijing Municipal Bureau of Commerce and Industry found that 7 of tea available in the market, containing prohibited pesticide "dicofol" and "rare earth" elements, the public fear after eating unhealthy, and even affect fetal development. The Administration has requested that the relevant units to sale. China News Agency quoted the Beijing Industry and Commerce Bureau that, after examination, the market sale of 17 kinds of food to be comprehensive, including seven kinds of prohibited pesticide "dicofol" and "rare earth" element of the tea. Reported that the 7 kinds of tea from the market were found in many supermarkets, including varieties of oolong tea, Tie Guan Yin, Pu'er tea and jasmine tea. It is reported that "dicofol" can be used as pesticides, but not easy to break down the pesticide, coupled with improper use or lack of safe separation time, easily lead to pesticide residue, after human consumption may affect fetal development, the Mainland law prohibits the use of tea production dicofol. In addition, the expert refers to the earth as a plant growth regulator can help to increase production and improve quality, but improper use will result in rare-earth residues, excessive intake may inhibit the activity of coagulation factors in vivo. In addition to the tea found unqualified, Xiang Ju Yuan Food Co., Ltd. Beijing Production cake also found that excessive sodium cyclamate. City of Industry, warned the public: Where consumers have purchased substandard food, rely on store receipts and requests for sales of food packaging to return. Beijing Industry and Commerce Bureau released the food shelves of 7 identified the prohibited pesticides in tea, many of them from Fujian Anxi. "Bubble tea are out of broken stems and leaves." Net purchases of tea Miss Song told reporters, selling boxes of this tea shop owner said he is the farmers, so the market price of the same quality than the lower half of the Iron Goddess of Mercy . She was believed, until the tea boxes only to find to get cheated. Miss Song and a few like this. Also in the shop to buy low-quality tea Lee told reporters in the gift shop not a clear description of the tea, for his complaint, the site manager, said nothing. Tea sales in the network, Yang told reporters that the net purchase tea, shoddy, posing as an ordinary well-known origin of the tea producing tea, new tea pretending Chen tea is very common. "Posing as West Lake Longjing Longjing in Fujian, and most consumers simply can not tell." Although online shopping has many defects of tea, but the turnover has increased year by year. This reporter learned that the overall sales of tea last year, Taobao 3.5 billion. By 3 months of this year, the tea trade volume has doubled over last year, reaching 7 billion. |
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Oct 9 2010, 04:43 PM
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Gave up on my bamboo tea tray due to the strong bamboo smell, so bought this.
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Oct 9 2010, 11:33 PM
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Beijing Tea Scam
http://scams.wikispaces.com/Beijing+Tea+Scam QUOTE Con artists in Beijing befriend tourists and, after a small chat, offer to take them to a traditional tea ceremony. This is not presented as a sales pitch by a tourism. Instead, the con artists act as if the ceremony is a regualr part of their daily lives and the victim is being invited along. The tourists feel as if they are been allowed to participant in a very authentic experience that everyday Chinese people do. Once they arrive at the ceremony, they drink a small amount of tea but are not shown a menu. At the end of the ceremony, the tea house owner presents the group with a large bill, perhaps $50 per head. Each of the con artists takes out the equivilant of $50 and pays the bill. The victim, not wanting to look cheap or stupid, does the same thing. The con artists then share the money with the tea house owner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjcoQlp8JE |
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Oct 10 2010, 08:48 AM
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All the while I thought Tea Party means this:-
 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JchKa8Ox3Hs But apparently it is much political than just enjoying cups of tea and desserts. What is the Tea Party? A beginner's guide to America's Tea Party movement. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...-Tea-Party.html Published: 8:22PM BST 15 Sep 2010 The Tea Party movement started modestly in February 2009 with protests in nine US cities against Barack Obama's massive stimulus bill. In the short time since it has grown exponentially to be a major force in US politics, and will have a major hand in deciding who controls Congress after the Nov 2 midterm elections. A loose network of groups mainly organised at the state level, it has resisted creating a leadership structure or becoming a third political party. Instead the movement supports Republican candidates considered politically palatable on a case-by-case basis. Its activists are mostly conservative Republican voters who support smaller government, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility and individual freedoms. Many however have not been active in politics before, but say they were moved to action by anxiety about the economy and concern about the president's high-spending agenda. The movement was truly galvanised by opposing the Democrats' $1 trillion health care bill, which was seen as too expensive at a time when the country's deficit was rising fast. However Tea Party members have not been afraid to criticise the Republican establishment in Washington for betraying conservative principles by spending too much when they were in power. They tend to be older than the average voter and are overwhelmingly white. Derisive anti-Obama placards and comments by some figures have led to accusations that the movement as a whole is racist. Considerable financial and tactical aid has been provided by Washington-based political outfits such as FreedomWorks and the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, which is funded by the billionaire Koch brothers. There are arguments among the faithful about whether the movement's name was taken from the anti-colonial Boston Tea Party in 1773, or from banners at early demonstrations which read "Taxed Enough Already". Tea Party movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement Tea Party protests http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_protests |
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Oct 10 2010, 11:32 PM
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Chinese Peeing Dolls - HowTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LpSLb5Iy-Y Pee Pee BoyS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-srbGn0fVso This will sure get your guest laughing and WET |
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Oct 15 2010, 02:30 PM
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1995 Aged Raw Tea - Bulang Special Edition
Roughly translated from: 1995年 勐海茶厂 中茶布朗精品 老生茶    The taste is quite old and nice. The liquar is quite redish. I liked it, have to have it.... but a BIG BUT which stops me from buying more. This tea was stored in China and not in a perfect condition. It has a little white layer (which is sign of fungus). The shop owner said if kept well, the white layer will go away but that may take years. |
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Oct 15 2010, 09:27 PM
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I can tell you the white layer will not go away if it is stored in a too wet condition. Seriously, this tea is not worth buying unless it is really cheap and not too wet condition.
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Oct 17 2010, 11:14 AM
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It's most likely wet storage. I would also suggest against drinking it as it's not good for health.
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Oct 17 2010, 11:43 AM
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My tea wish list:
Hibiscus tea: heard it's very delicious and can lower blood pressure Dandelion tea: Easy way to detox Chamomile tea: relaxes the nerves and promote good sleep, I heard Gonna buy them all soon. Although local brands does not have the hibiscus flavour. The search continues.. |
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Oct 17 2010, 11:29 PM
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Guoyan 2007 Yunnan Chi Tse Beeng Cha Ripe - Yellow Stamp
 This beeng is specially custom made for a tea shop here based on his requirements. The owner of the shop bought the whole year 2007 batch for this puerh, so in other words there shouldn't be any of this out there which is not from him. But unfortunately, the owner said he has seen and actually tasted fake which is not similar to his. Now the taste. When I first tasted this, I was totally impressed by this. This ripe though 2007 tasted like an aged tea. So I asked what is this. The owner explained, this special recipe is 1/2 fermented. Guoyan used traditional method to do the fermentation, but it somehow didn't fermented fully. The owner said, when this was younger, it tasted like ripe but as time goes by it actually changes it character. It is now slowly changing into aged raw taste. Simply amazing for such a young pu, not to mention ripe turning into raw. The owner said this changed of aged character was just recently which my friend said so too. He bought it long ago and it wasn't like it now. Totally loved this. Bought 10 pieces, and will buy more if it tasted good at home. The shop has another same 2007 batch ripe (red stamp) which is special custom made for him. It was good, but not as special as this Yellow Stamp. He has few other custom made for him which are also very good. This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 17 2010, 11:31 PM |
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Oct 18 2010, 01:06 AM
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Ripe to raw
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Oct 18 2010, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 18 2010, 01:06 AM) Ripe to raw Yala, quite amazing taste... The owner assure me is not 'tangan kaki' punya tea |
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Oct 18 2010, 10:45 AM
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Well, the founder of Guoyan Tea Factory was originally the vice director of Menghai Tea Factory. With her experience, Guoyan is one of the best among small factories. I've also collected some raw cakes from this brand.
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Oct 18 2010, 10:58 AM
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Someone told me (not to quote him), but the problem with Guoyan, you pay them X amount, they will do X quality even with same wrapping.
Eg. This tea below, for the particular batch it was completely bought by someone.  But then in the market there are still the same batch out there. Not sure the fake is from the same factory or made elsewhere. Quality differs. |
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Oct 18 2010, 11:59 AM
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Wife complains not liking to see my tea all over the place. So I got this cupboard yesterday.
 Here are some of my stocks (exclude some in the living room and at office) - 5 months of tea collecting...  |
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Oct 18 2010, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 18 2010, 10:58 AM) Someone told me (not to quote him), but the problem with Guoyan, you pay them X amount, they will do X quality even with same wrapping. Not sure about the above product u mentioned. But a tea merchant from China also told me this -- Whenever a brand becomes famous, imitation products (they refer it as "B product") will appear in the market in no time. Of course, storage condition also influences its flavor. As for the case above, it's possible all of them are from the original factory, but they taste differently because of their storage condition.Eg. This tea below, for the particular batch it was completely bought by someone. But then in the market there are still the same batch out there. Not sure the fake is from the same factory or made elsewhere. Quality differs. |
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Oct 18 2010, 01:41 PM
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To share my tea collections to fellow tea lovers:
Bought 8 pcs (1pc + 1 roll) of Yi Wu (易武）ripe tea during tea exhibition back in July 2008 which was held in Berjaya Time Square; tried one pc, personally I like the its taste, so as my family members who seldom drink tea, they also like the taste. I bought additional 2 rolls (14 pcs) the following year at one of the renowned tea shops. Early this year, I opened another pc of Yi Wu (2008), it tasted slightly different and towards aged raw, from the color and taste it tells, I believe it will taste even better as the time goes, I keep them in clay pot (紫砂).  Also during Oct 2009, I bought additional roll of Pu-er tea (7 pc) from Wild Plant (2008) from the same tea shop as photo shown below, tasted it at the tea shop, it suits my taste well too. But haven't tasted it at home yet, will consume it soon after I finish the Yi Wu and other teas (very soon).  |
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Oct 19 2010, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 18 2010, 11:59 AM) Wife complains not liking to see my tea all over the place. So I got this cupboard yesterday. One cupboard definitely not enough. You need one room I stored mine in a stainless steel cabinet and sometimes I just slightly open the door to let the 'air' to circulate inside. Added on October 19, 2010, 12:38 am QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 18 2010, 10:58 AM) Someone told me (not to quote him), but the problem with Guoyan, you pay them X amount, they will do X quality even with same wrapping. I think it the same with Dayi. If you got the raw material, they will pressed it for you. There is a batch of Dayi ripe tea uses LBZ material many years ago ordered by a private tea vendor. For China company, as long there is money to be make, they do what you wants This post has been edited by cuebiz: Oct 19 2010, 12:38 AM |
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Oct 19 2010, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 18 2010, 11:59 AM) Wife complains not liking to see my tea all over the place. So I got this cupboard yesterday. Hmm, I think u should store ripe ones and raw ones using separate cupboards...Here are some of my stocks (exclude some in the living room and at office) - 5 months of tea collecting... QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 19 2010, 12:32 AM) I think it the same with Dayi. If you got the raw material, they will pressed it for you. There is a batch of Dayi ripe tea uses LBZ material many years ago ordered by a private tea vendor. For China company, as long there is money to be make, they do what you wants U mean this one? Though using LBZ for ripe tea is kinda waste imo, but still it's one of the most expensive dayi product in the 21st century. |
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Oct 19 2010, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 19 2010, 12:32 AM) One cupboard definitely not enough. You need one room That cupboard is temporary till my new house is ready end of next year. Already told my wife that the room downstairs is going to be my tea/personal room I stored mine in a stainless steel cabinet and sometimes I just slightly open the door to let the 'air' to circulate inside. Added on October 19, 2010, 12:38 am I think it the same with Dayi. If you got the raw material, they will pressed it for you. There is a batch of Dayi ripe tea uses LBZ material many years ago ordered by a private tea vendor. For China company, as long there is money to be make, they do what you wants Come show us your tea collection. Show us what the stainless steel cabinet has inside... Having factories pressing the raw material is fine, but they should not use the exact same packing and batch info. This is non ethical... but then from a country that can fake nearly everything... no comments la. QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Oct 19 2010, 03:45 AM) Hmm, I think u should store ripe ones and raw ones using separate cupboards... Wanted to store in separate cupboard, but no space at the moment U mean this one? Though using LBZ for ripe tea is kinda waste imo, but still it's one of the most expensive dayi product in the 21st century. |
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Oct 19 2010, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 19 2010, 08:35 AM) Having factories pressing the raw material is fine, but they should not use the exact same packing and batch info. This is non ethical... but then from a country that can fake nearly everything... no comments la. As my post earlier, I knew one of the local tea shops since 14 years ago, two years ago, they started their joint-venture with china tea factory on Pu-er tea such as Yi Wu, Qiao Mu, etc. According to the local tea shop owner, they shared their technical advise such as good and hygiene packing, etc. with chinese tea factory. At least, I rest assured their teas are not fake and their price also reasonable. |
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Oct 19 2010, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Oct 19 2010, 09:12 AM) I am also worry buying fake tea, that's why, after observing for long time, I only visit two or three local tea shops regularly. Fake is 1 worry. Lesser quality minum tak apa... but another bigger worry, this year pesticides seems out of control, so meaning 2010 tea 'may' have problem.As my post earlier, I knew one of the local tea shops since 14 years ago, two years ago, they started their joint-venture with china tea factory on Pu-er tea such as Yi Wu, Qiao Mu, etc. According to the local tea shop owner, they shared their technical advise such as good and hygiene packing, etc. with chinese tea factory. At least, I rest assured their teas are not fake and their price also reasonable. |
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Oct 19 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 19 2010, 10:49 AM) Fake is 1 worry. Lesser quality minum tak apa... but another bigger worry, this year pesticides seems out of control, so meaning 2010 tea 'may' have problem. Not to buy tea for a year or two. Our worries are few unethical tea factories or tea seller may keep the 2010 teas and wrap with 2011 or 2012 labels then how to tell and differentiate ? Probably have to look for with quality control label and regular tea sellers which are trustable. |
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Oct 19 2010, 03:34 PM
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I came across this 7 pieces at a tea shop here,
2006: 中茶-昆明 -印級餅 -5861 ZhongCha Kunming - 5861 Raw  More photos: http://www.dengzhenghai168.cn/athena/offer...-608803487.html It compresses of 7 difference types of kunming cake as a remembrance of past productions. The best part, some people/web site sell it @ about USD35 and some at about USD175 for the same set, same box, same batch. Eg: http://search.taobao.com/search?commend=al...&source=search1 |
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Oct 19 2010, 05:16 PM
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95 Spring Xia Guan (Limited Edition)
Roughly translated from: 1995年 下关阿诗玛“春尖”散普    Though this puerh is from 1995, it does not show any aged taste/colour at all but It has a strong fragrance. First taste was bitterness follows by sweetness and aftertaste. The owner told me that the reason of why it hardly aged was it is stored in China in a wooden box unopened. And in every small box the loose tea is stored in plastic. This according to him maybe the reason of the slow aging. More info and photos of the unboxing of the big wooden box:- http://tea-li.com/goods.php?id=221 http://www.ynpuretea.com.cn/bbs/viewthread...page%3D1&page=1 This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 19 2010, 05:41 PM |
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Oct 19 2010, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 19 2010, 05:16 PM) 95 Spring Xia Guan (Limited Edition) I did bought this from the vendor. At first I am quite excited but when I brew it, I am slightly disappointed. The water is very murky. Not clear at all. They also have the Menghai batch and it is also the same.Though this puerh is from 1995, it does not show any aged taste/colour at all but It has a strong fragrance. First taste was bitterness follows by sweetness and aftertaste. The owner told me that the reason of why it hardly aged was it is stored in China in a wooden box unopened. And in every small box the loose tea is stored in plastic. This according to him maybe the reason of the slow aging. More info and photos of the unboxing of the big wooden box:- http://tea-li.com/goods.php?id=221 http://www.ynpuretea.com.cn/bbs/viewthread...page%3D1&page=1 |
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Oct 19 2010, 11:20 PM
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Lead extraction with green tea: AAS reveals efficacious lead detox
http://www.spectroscopynow.com/coi/cda/det...e&chId=1&page=1 [October 15, 2010] Brewing up lead treatment Atomic absorption spectroscopy and other techniques have been used to study the effects of green tea extract on reducing lead toxicity in laboratory rats. Green tea is tea brewed with the unprocessed leaves of Camellia sinensis. Green tea originates from China and has become associated with many cultures in Asia from Japan and South Korea to the Middle East. Black tea by contrast is more familiar in the West and is made from the "oxidised" leaves, which gives it a stronger flavour. There have been various medical claims made for all forms of tea, but green tea extract has come to the fore as having unproven health benefits, such as helping with weight control, lowering the risk of cardiovascular disease and cancer. The presence of antioxidants including polyphenols and the presence of the stimulant caffeine are all considered in the general assessment of tea's physiological effects. Green tea extracts are herbal derivatives from green tea leaves that contain antioxidants, mainly green tea catechin polyphenols (GTC). Green tea extract has been linked to lower cholesterol levels in animal studies and in humans GTE apparently increases the rate of fat oxidation in the body while modulating insulin activity. Obtaining proof of such benefits is fraught with epidemiological hazards. However, atomic absorption spectroscopy can demonstrate quantitative changes in levels of metal contaminants in a sample that would indicate benefits in some contexts. For instance, if GTE were able to chelate toxic lead ions in the body and allow them to be flushed out by the kidneys then that health effect could be demonstrated in a relatively straightforward way. Lead toxicity Green tea is tea made solely with the leaves of Camellia sinensis that have undergone minimal oxidation during processing. Green tea originates from China and has become associated with many cultures in Asia from Japan and South Korea to the Middle East. Now, writing in the journal Atomic Experimental and Toxicologic Pathology, an international team based in Egypt and India, report on a study into lead toxicity amelerioration with GTE in male Sprague-Dawley rats. Lead is a common cause of chronic health problems in humans and poisoning of domestic animals throughout the world. The early stages of inorganic lead exposure are manifested by loss of appetite, weight loss, constipation, irritability, fatigue, occasional vomiting, lead line of gums and anaemia. Health risks associated with lead exposure from industrial and environmental sources are now well recognized and it is known that the metal interferes with many biochemical and physiological functions. E.E. Mehana of the Department of Pathology, College of Veterinary Medicine, Alexandria University, M.A. Meki of the Department of Biochemistry, College of Medicine, Assiut University, in Egypt, and Khalid Majid Fazili of the Department of Biotechnology, University of Kashmir, Srinagar, J&K, in India, studied four groups of rats. They gave the animals lead and GTE orally with drinking water for 8 weeks. "Lead concentration in the digested tissues of liver was detected using atomic absorption spectroscopy," the team explains, and "the activities of glutathione-S-transferase (GST) and superoxide dismutase (SOD) were used as markers to evaluate the antioxidant status of tissues." They found that exposure to lead alone reduced the antioxidant capacity of the liver. However, this was reversed to some degree by ingestion of green tea extract. The team explains that the levels of liver enzymes ALT, AST and ALP and serum protein determinations showed that GTE has a protective effect on liver function in the face of lead. "Histopathological studies of liver revealed that supplementation of green tea extract resulted in mild degeneration and congestion of the blood vessels and an enhanced regenerative capacity," the team adds." |
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Oct 19 2010, 11:28 PM
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Tea growers see profits nearly double as quality improves
http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Det...ID=201010130033 2010/10/13 22:17:41 Taipei, Oct. 13 (CNA) Tea growers in Taiwan have seen profits nearly double since last year thanks to a government-sponsored program that promotes the growth of high-quality leaves, a Council of Agriculture (COA) official said Wednesday. Since late 2009, the council has provided consulting and advanced techniques for applying fertilizer or medicine, helping high-end tea growers obtain certifications including ISO 22000 and HACCP, Tsai Hsien-tsung, director of the COA's Tea Research and Extention Station's Wenshan Branch, said. Taiwanese tea has become more competitive against foreign teas, Tsai said, noting that Starbucks Beijing and European tea merchants have placed orders. Tea growers in areas such as Taipei County's Pinglin and Sansia townships, Taoyuan County, Hsinchu County, and Nantou County's Mingjian Jhushan townships have seen profits rise, he said. Tsai said that as tea grown in the Taipei Sansia area has no pesticide residue, its price has risen from NT$70 (US$2) for 600 grams last year to NT$120 for now. |
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Oct 21 2010, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Oct 19 2010, 12:22 PM) Not to buy tea for a year or two. Our worries are few unethical tea factories or tea seller may keep the 2010 teas and wrap with 2011 or 2012 labels then how to tell and differentiate ? Probably have to look for with quality control label and regular tea sellers which are trustable. Well, if u're not sure about something, then it's wise to just avoid it. Plus Yunnan was hit by severe drought early this year. As a result, the quality of raw material for tea will be lesser than usual (because of rain shortage) and the price will definitely go up (because of limited production). For cultivated tea bushes, chemical fertilizers will be utilized to the max. For me I'll just avoid tea produced in 2011. |
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Oct 21 2010, 03:17 PM
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The Sixth South East Asia Puer Tea Trade Fair 2010
 Date: 19/11/10 to 28/11/10 Time: 11am to 10pm Venue: Mines - Malaysia International Exhibiton & Convention Centre Info: http://www.teaculturalexpo.com/ |
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Oct 21 2010, 06:02 PM
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Though it is as cheap as RM28 each for all these, some of it sure looks good.
My only concern is what kind of clay is it...  This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 21 2010, 06:02 PM |
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Oct 21 2010, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 21 2010, 06:02 PM) Though it is as cheap as RM28 each for all these, some of it sure looks good. Hi is it possible that u share the link? Coz i search through facebook and there is so many ppl by the name of TEA LI. ThanksMy only concern is what kind of clay is it... |
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Oct 21 2010, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE(carjack18 @ Oct 21 2010, 08:28 PM) Hi is it possible that u share the link? Coz i search through facebook and there is so many ppl by the name of TEA LI. Thanks Here you go: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1139...71167608&ref=mf |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:04 PM
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Tea export shrinking to near-zero
http://www.thefinancialexpress-bd.com/more...date=2010-10-21 Thursday October 21 2010 CHITTAGONG, October 20: Once a major tea exporting country enjoying a captive export market, Bangladesh is becoming a tea importer with rise in local consumption and sharp fall in production. The scenario has changed in recent years because of market economy, emergence of new entrants in the world market with low price tea and rapid increase of internal demand. Major tea business houses like MM Ispahani and Abul Khayer Group of Industries have contacted exporters from Kenya and other countries to buy tea, industry sources said. "A good quantity of tea has been imported. Tea price in Indian market is lower than ours. So it is being smuggled in," a tea trader said favouring anonymity. "The buyers are less eager to buy Bangladesh tea as price difference with other exporting countries is much wider. This year only some packet tea has been exported to Middle East countries." The average export price of tea in Bangladesh was $1.3 per kg in 2007-08, $1.9 in 2008-09, and in June last, it was $ 2.18 per kg, tea traders association statistics said and added that same quality of tea in India and Kenya sells lower. "We did not import tea as of today but we have contacted Kenya tea exporters," said Mr Wazed, a senior official of tea trader Abul Khayer Group. "Rapid changes are taking place in international tea price. We have to observe the auction to auction sale situation there. Then we will go for placing orders for supply of tea from abroad," he said. "The price of tea in Kenya seems favourable compared to that of Bangladesh. Increase in internal demand has pushed up the price in Bangladesh auction although export of our tea has almost come down to zero," he added. SK Das, a senior official of National Brokers Ltd, a leading auctioneer of Bangladesh tea, told the FE this afternoon that export of Bangladesh tea has dropped due to increase in internal consumption and price as well. Statistics given by Bangladesh Tea Board show that export of Bangladesh tea in the 2009 was 3.15 million kilograms (kg), which was about 60 per cent less than previous year export of 8.39 million kg. Export earning was Tk 433.50 million against Tk 976.95 million in the previous year. 75 per cent of the quantity was sold to Pakistan alone. BTB sources said that the government of Pakistan allowed duty-free entry of ten million kg of tea per year from Bangladesh since October 2002. Bangladesh could not utilize that quota fully as increasing internal demand pushes the price level up in the local auction and discourages export. Sources said, from export of tea Bangladesh earned $11.26 million in 2005, $6.69 million in 2006, $13.15 million in 2007, $14.29 million in 2008 and $6.34 million in 2009. Industry sources said that a few years back tea was one of the main export items of the country and Bangladesh tea was favourite in some countries including Pakistan and Russia. "But the tea production could not keep pace with demand of export due to drought and electricity shortage," a tea trader said favouring anonymity. "Bangladesh Tea Board took seven-year (August 2003-July 2010) development projects like Small Holding Tea Cultivation in the Chittagong Hill Tracts to supply high yielding variety (HYV), fertilizer, sprayers to small tea growers for cultivation of tea in improved method and other projects but could not implement it," he said. |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:17 PM
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12 things about tea your local dim sum restaurateur won't tell you
A tea master gives us some advice on how to make sure we're getting the best brew for our buck By Virginia Lau 7 October, 2010 Read more: 12 things about tea your local dim sum restaurateur won't tell you | CNNGo.com http://www.cnngo.com/hong-kong/drink/12-th...1#ixzz12zznDnkv |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:25 PM
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More Studies on Tea Health Benefits Backed
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/283439/more-...benefits-backed By GABRIEL S. MABUTAS October 21, 2010, 6:24pm MANILA, Philippines – The Food and Nutrition Research Institute Thursday recommended further studies on the health benefits of tea amid conflicting research as to whether it could indeed reduce the risk of cardiovascular diseases and stroke, as well as reduce weight with its anti-oxidant properties which are helpful in cardiovascular health. This, even as it admitted that tea is the main source of flavonoids in the diet, which is also present in apples, grapes, wines and cocoas. Most of the health benefits of tea are attributed to flavonoids. All true teas, according to the institute, come from the same plant, Camellia sinensis, ranging from green, oolong, white, black, rooibos tea, red tea and herbal tea infusions. “The main difference is in the way the tea leaves are processed but all tea brews are full of natural goodness and health benefits,” it added. Citing the lecture delivered by Dr. Jan Rycroft in a seminar on the “Bioactive Components of Tea and their Health Benefits” FNRI noted that an average 200 milliliter (mL) cup of green tea contains 120 milligrams (mg) of flavonoids while an average 300 mL cup of black tea contains 130mg. Rycroft, category nutritionist of Unilever, presented different studies on the relationships of tea and flavonoids to different nutritional and health factors, such as antioxidant properties which are helpful in cardiovascular health, weight management and mental performance. A dietary antioxidant is a substance in foods that significantly decreases the adverse effects of reactive oxygen and nitrogen species on the normal physiological function in humans. In an experiment presented by Dr. Rycroft regarding flavonoids as antioxidants, however, results showed that bioavailability is low and flavonoids are modified upon absorption without indications of reduced damage in vivo. Flavonoids have no proof for protection against free radical damage in the cells. This study was supported by the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) Panel on Diabetic Products, Nutrition and Allergies in 2010, which reported that a cause and effect relationship has not been established between the consumption of tea and the protection of body cells and molecules such as DNA, proteins and lipids from oxidative damage. “According to various studies on cardiovascular health though, tea, in general, is associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular diseases, specifically lowering the risk of myocardial infarction, stroke and ischemic heart disease,” the FNRI noted. They claimed, it said, that consumption of two to three cups of black or green tea per day improves blood vessel function. “Tea consumption can help in weight management program, according to a number of Asian studies that found a reduction of visceral fat after consumption of high catechin green tea for 12 weeks. It was also shown that high catechin green tea increases fat oxidation,” the FNRI said. L-theanine, on the other hand, is an amino acid naturally exclusive from tea that is responsible for the production of alpha waves in the brain which has a calming effect on the body and gives the balance of deep relaxation and mental alertness, according to Dr. Edgardo Tolentino of the Makati Medical Center. A typical 200mL serving of black tea contains 4.5 – 22.5mg of L-theanine. |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:29 PM
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Does tea boost the heart?
http://www.harboroughmail.co.uk/news/healt...heart_1_1557922 Published on Thu Oct 21 14:25:54 BST 2010 “Two cups of tea a day cuts heart disease,” the Daily Express has reported. The newspaper says that tea contains “health boosting flavonoids” that can reduce the risk of heart disease by 11%. The news is based on a study examining a selection of research on the potential heart benefits of both green and black tea. It concludes that regular consumption of any type of tea is likely to reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease, probably due to levels of substances called flavonoids that are found in tea. The authors suggest that the reduction in risk is the result of actions such as preventing clogging of the arteries and improving body weight. However, this review should be seen as a “round-up” of some of the existing research as it was not a systematic analysis of the research, and therefore cannot provide firm evidence. As the authors of the review point out, we now need good quality studies directly looking at whether tea can prevent heart disease in humans. Overall, it is unlikely that drinking tea can prevent heart disease in isolation from other factors, or redress the effects of a poor diet or unhealthy lifestyle. Adopting a balanced diet, doing regular exercise, consuming moderate amounts of alcohol, and not smoking are all important ways to help reduce the risk of heart disease. Where did the story come from? The review was carried out by researchers from the School of Medicine and Pharmacology at the University of Western Australia. There is no information about any external sources of funding. The study was published in the peer-reviewed journal Molecular Aspects of Medicine. The review was reported in both the Daily Mail and Daily Express, whose reporting generally did not reflect the uncertainty of the study’s conclusions. For example, the Mail reported that three cups of tea a day can prevent cardiac problems, while the Express said drinking tea two or three times a day could reduce risk of the disease by 11%. These claims appear to be based on a 2001 analysis, which the reviewers considered to be flawed. The review actually suggests that this earlier research had several problems that undermine the certainty of the results. Both newspapers also claim that drinking two cups of tea will provide as many antioxidants as eating five portions of vegetables. Although tea does contain antioxidants, the suggestion that it can be a substitute for the numerous health benefits of fruit and vegetables is not supported by this research. The Express did however feature the views of an external expert advising that more research is needed and that tea cannot protect from the effects of a poor diet or lifestyle. Both papers report views from the Tea Advisory panel, which support the researchers’ conclusions. The Mail points out that the Tea Advisory Panel is funded by the tea industry. What kind of research was this? This was a non-systematic, narrative review looking at the potential health benefits of both green and black tea. It examined evidence from various studies, including animal models, population studies and some randomised controlled trials (RCTs). It included research on the effect of tea on a number of cardiovascular endpoints related to health, including atherosclerosis (clogged arteries), blood pressure and cholesterol reduction. The authors point out that tea is such a common drink worldwide that any health effects could have a significant impact on public health. Both green and black tea, they say, are rich in flavonoids – anti-oxidant substances that are thought to have health benefits. They say that as little as two to three cups a day will supply a “major contribution to total flavonoid intake in most individuals”. What did the research involve? The researchers viewed and summarised 63 studies on the possible effects of green and black tea. They looked at population studies on the possible link between tea and heart disease, but they also summarised studies of potential associations between tea and a number of clinical endpoints associated with cardiovascular disease. These were atherosclerosis, function of the endothelium (lining of the arteries), blood pressure, oxidative stress, cholesterol reduction, inflammation, function of the blood platelets, levels of homocysteine, body weight and body composition, and type 2 diabetes. The review did not state how the researchers identified and selected the studies to be included. This means we cannot be sure if any relevant studies were omitted, nor whether studies not included came to similar conclusions. Although researchers describe the evidence they found, they do not systematically examine the quality of studies that were included. What were the basic results? The main findings reported by the authors were as follows: * population studies suggest that tea may reduce cardiovascular disease risk * mouse studies suggest that tea can inhibit development of atherosclerosis (although the authors recognise that human studies are needed) * RCTs suggest that tea can enhance nitric oxide levels and improve endothelial function (which has a role in cardiovascular disease) * RCTs provide limited evidence that green tea might reduce body fat * there is inadequate evidence about the effects of tea on oxidative stress, inflammation, blood platelet activation, blood pressure and risk of type 2 diabetes How did the researchers interpret the results? The researchers suggest that tea is likely to provide protection against cardiovascular disease. Green and black tea appear to have similar health benefits. Conclusion This review summarises a selection of the existing evidence on the associations between tea and aspects of cardiovascular health. It is not clear whether researchers included all the available evidence, how they selected their studies, or whether any other evidence came to similar conclusions. As the authors imply, large randomised controlled trials are needed to look at any association between tea and the prevention of cardiovascular disease. Where diet is concerned, RCTs are difficult to design because of the difficulties associated with trying to isolate dietary factors. Also, they are expensive to set up. Moderate consumption of whichever colour tea you prefer is unlikely to damage your health, and it may have some benefits, as this research suggests. However, it is well established that the best way to reduce the risk of heart disease is to follow a healthy diet and lifestyle, which involves regular exercise, reducing fat and salt intake, eating plenty of fruit and vegetables, and not smoking. |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:33 PM
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Progression of Leukemia Slowed Down by Green Tea
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/...wn-by-green-tea Louisville : KY : USA | Oct 15, 2010 Leukemia Killing Compounds in Fruits and More In a recent study done by researchers at the Mayo Clinic and which was also presented at the annual meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology, has revealed that an extract in green tea possibly can slow down the advancement of the most general type of leukemia. This latest study consisted of the involvement of forty-two patients enduring early stage chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CCL). CCL usually progresses at a slow rate with intervals of remission, patients only receive treatment when the disease is actively spreading. All of the participants in this study were not receiving any treatments including radiation or chemotherapy. The participants received treatment with an extract of epigallocatechin galeate (EGCG). EGCG is an antioxidant belonging to the Catechin family. Catechin is used to refer to the related family of flavonoids and subgroup flavanols. EGCG had produced a major cell decrease in leukemia cell count in greater than two-thirds of the participants. In almost one-third of the participants, the amount of cancerous cells in the blood had decreased by twenty percent. In addition seventy percent of patients who were enduring enlarged lymph nodes had showed a fifty percent reduction in the size of the nodes. Even though only a comparative phase three trial can actually determine if EGCG can really delay the progression of CLL. Head writer of the study Tate Shanafelt had stated that the benefits they observed in most of the CLL patients who used the chemical does advocate that there is modest clinical activity and possibly can steady CCL, conceivably by slowing it down. Past studies also have advocated green tea and its compounds producing the possibilities of aiding the fight of other types of cancers such as bladder, colon, stomach and esophagus. In more current studies it has shown it aide in guarding against tooth decay and help with weight loss. Blackberries to the fight of leukemia Dr. Xian-Ming Yin, MD, PhD, associate professor of pathology at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine and associates have been conducting intensive searchers for targeting treatments for leukemia throughout the world. In 2007, Dr. Yin and his associates managed to isolate a naturally revised anthocyanidin (a plant pigment having antioxidants and wound healing properties) called C-3-R from black raspberries and examined its effects on human leukemia and lymphoma cell cultures. Researchers discovered that low amounts of C-3-R had effected half of the leukemia cells to die within 18 hours of being treated. When researchers doubled the dose all of the cells had died, the same exact results were seen in lymphoma cells. Researchers had focused on one of the most common anthocyanidins that are forms of water soluble flavonoids that give color to fruits and vegetables. Researchers had reported that C-3-R activated an oxidative stress in the tumor cells but not in healthy cells. Dr. Yin states that this reaction indicates that C-3-R is totally selective against cancer cells and provides a very encouraging method for the treatment of an assortment of human leukemia's and may be even lymphoma. Grape seed extract eliminating leukemia cells Regardless of the fact if it has been grapes, grape juice or even wine manufactured from grapes it has made its mark on news in the last few years. Grapes have graced the headlines for their possible heart prevention benefits. Now the grapes have advanced in their cause for health once more. A study which had appeared January 1st 2009, edition of Clinical Cancer Research, an American Association Cancer Research journal, had published the information that announced that the cell signaling pathway that grape seed extract is packed with brings about the death of leukemia cells. The University of Kentucky researchers determined the extract ignites a protein referred to as JNK. JNK is the regulator for the cancer killing pathway. The studies head writer Dr. Xianglin Shi, PhD., professor in the Graduate Center for Toxicology at the university had remarked in a statement released to the press, that the findings possibly have significance for the inclusion of agents like grape seed extract for prevention or treatment of hematological malignancies and even possibly other types of cancer. Dr. Shi along with his research team had been studying chemicals called proanthocyanidins in fruits that epidemiological proof indicates may prevent the development of cancer. In other studies Dr. Shi and his team had discovered apple peel extract contains antioxidant-rich flavonoids which causes several lines of cancer cells to be eliminated. Established on this earlier research along with other studies from scientists revealing grape seed extract decreases breast tumors in rats and skin tumors in mice, the scientists had decided to observe what type of effect the natural components of grape seed extract could possibly have on leukemia cells. Grape seed extract has already proven activity against numerous other types of cancer lines in the lab including skin, breast, colon, lung and prostate cancers, this was the very first time in which it had been tested on hematological cancers. These types of cancers are listed as the fourth cause of cancer incident and death in the United States by the National Cancer Institute. They consist of uncontrolled growth cells which have alike functioning and origins that include leukemia, lymphomas and myeloma. Leukemia is expressly a cancer of the blood and marrow. The researchers had subjected leukemia cells to a available commercial grape seed extract in various doses. They discovered higher doses had the greatest noticeable effect in causing the death of cancer cells along with the fact that grape seed extract had not harmed human cells at all. Dr. Shi stated that grape seed extract is an agent that does produce an effect on cancer cells and leaves human cells alone, which is what everyone is hoping to find. Strawberries and more kill leukemia cancer cells Strawberries, blueberries, rosemary and turmeric contain compounds which kill childhood leukemia cancer cells in test tubes. Research conducted by biologist Susan J. Zunino of the Agriculture Research Service (ARS) Western Human Nutrition Research Center (WHNRC) in Davis, California, possibly had revealed how strong plant chemicals fight the diseased called acute lymphoblastic leukemia. Ms. Zunino's study had built upon her findings concerning the ability of carnosol from rosemary, curcumin from turmeric, resveratrol from grapes and ellagic acid, kaempferol and quercetin from strawberries kill leukemia cells. Her was done by the use of laboratory of both healthy human blood and cancerous ones for her model. Her studies have not only peaked the interest of cancer researchers but also those of nutrition scientists who are exploring health benefits of natural compounds from the nations numerous fruits, vegetables, herbs and spices Scientists do not have all detail on how plant chemicals called phytochemicals boost healthy cells and battle dangerous ones. The investigations Ms. Zunino had done did furnish a few new clues about how phytochemicals attack cancer cells. She had discovered that phytochemicals hamper the organized activity of mitochondria, the tiny energy producing power plants inside cells. Without the energy they simply die. When mitochondria is susceptible to resveratrol among other phytochemicals that she had tested, it was found that they could not function correctly which results in cancer cell death. Brazilian berries eliminated cancer cells in laboratory A Brazilian berry which is popular in health food which contain antioxidants had shown in a study done by University of Florida researchers, that it had destroyed cultured human cancer cells. The study had demonstrated that extracts from acai berries set off a self destruct action in up to 86% of leukemia cells in which researchers had tested according to assistant professor Stephen Talcott with the University of Florida's Institute of Food and Agriculture Sciences. Acai berries are considered one of the highest fruit sources for antioxidants. The study was an essential part to learning what persons may benefit from using beverages, supplements among other products produced from berries. The study was not designed to show if compounds in the berries could provide leukemia prevention. Professor Talcott cautions persons that it was only one cell culture and they do not wish to provide any false hope. However, the results were encouraging. The compounds result had shown great activity against cancer cells in a model system and most probably give health benefits to our bodies. Six different chemical extracts were made from acai fruit pulp and each extract had been prepared in seven different types of concentrations. Four of the extracts did reveal killing a great number of leukemia cells when applied for twenty-four hours. Contingent on the extract and concentration, there was about 35% to 85% of cancer cells being killed. Professor Joshua Bomser, assistant professor of molecular nutrition and functional foods at the Ohio State University in Columbus, Ohio states that added consumption of fruits and vegetables which are linked with decreasing risks for a lot of disease which include heart and cancer. Professor Bosmer conducts research on the effects of diet on acute diseases. He suggests consuming a minimum of five servings a day of the fruits and vegetables that are associated to decreased risks for diseases in order to promote maximum health. |
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Oct 21 2010, 09:34 PM
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Green Tea May Slow Aging
http://www.skininc.com/skinscience/ingredi.../104782229.html Posted: October 12, 2010 Green tea is an evergreen shrub that has long been used in much of the world as a popular beverage and a respected medicinal agent. An early Chinese Materia Medica lists green tea as an agent to promote digestion, improve mental faculties, decrease flatulence and regulate body temperature. The earliest known record of consumption is around 2700 B.C. Ceremonies, celebrations, relaxation time and ordinary meals usually consist of tea in most parts of the world, except the United States, where coffee has become the most popular beverage. Unlike black tea (also Camellia sinensis) which is produced by oxidizing the young tea leaves, green tea is produced from steaming fresh leaves at high temperatures, thereby inactivating the oxidizing enzymes and leaving the polyphenol content intact. Green tea is an antioxidant and is used in promoting cardiovascular health and reducing serum cholesterol levels in laboratory animals and humans. Studies suggest that green tea contains dietary factors that help decrease the development of some infectious diseases and dental caries. Green tea has diuretic, stimulant, astringent, antibacterial, antifungal, anticarcinogenic, thermogenic and anti-inflammatory properties. Green tea has also been reported to enhance immunity. Findings from a recent study suggest that green tea may protect DNA from damage associated with aging. The placebo-controlled, cross-over supplementation study included 18 healthy volunteers who were randomly assigned to receive two cups of green tea or water every day for 4 weeks. A six-week washout period separated each four-week intervention, and blood and urine samples were collected before and after each intervention. The results of the study found a 20% reduction in levels of DNA damage, while measures of whole-body oxidative stress were unchanged. These findings indicate that regular consumption of green tea may protect against damage at a genetic level and slow the aging process.1 1. Han KC, Wong WC, Benzie IF. Genoprotective effects of green tea ( Camellia sinensis) in human subjects: results of a controlled supplementation trial. Br J Nutr. Sep2010:1-8. |
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Oct 21 2010, 11:49 PM
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Puerh Tea Diet
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Oct 22 2010, 02:19 PM
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My colleague brought this teapot with buddhist mantra to office today...
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Oct 22 2010, 11:59 PM
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Oct 24 2010, 08:49 PM
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Just got this classic Dayi 7542 (901) - 7+2 pieces
 Year 2009 price is cheaper than 2010. I believed year 2011 is going to be more expensive. |
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Oct 25 2010, 02:31 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 24 2010, 08:49 PM) Just got this classic Dayi 7542 (901) - 7+2 pieces Can u share the price here? Though being classic, but it's still one of the best tasting raw puerh I've come across.Year 2009 price is cheaper than 2010. I believed year 2011 is going to be more expensive. |
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Oct 25 2010, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Oct 25 2010, 02:31 AM) Can u share the price here? Though being classic, but it's still one of the best tasting raw puerh I've come across. RM48. Yes, this classic is easy to drink even it is young raw.This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 25 2010, 04:05 PM |
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Oct 25 2010, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE About Ripe ~Lesson from L@ZH~Nowadays there are express making method for Ripe which can be completed in 1 month. The traditional method will take a least 3 months and require a lot of space and men power to flip the tea. The "du wei" taste is less / none is the traditional method. Big factories are moving toward express method as they want to process in bulk in the shortest time. So if you can, try finding Ripe that still uses traditional method. There are also factory which uses ammonia in their Ripe to speed to process which makes the taste nasty, artificial or fishy. So be careful when selecting them. If it tasted not right, don't consume. About Raw Spring leaves must have aftertaste sweetness. For young spring raw, though some may have bitterness, it should come with sweetness aftertaste. Some Raw these days is mixed with some other tea like 'Tie Guan Yin' or 'Shui Xian' to give the sweet aftertaste or kick. So looking at the leaves is very important. About tea leaves After brewing it is important to look at the leaves. It should not be sticky sticky. It should not have have mixed colour leaves as in darker leaves + lighter colour leaves. For aging, puerh with 'Tie Guan Yin' or 'Shui Xian' may not be good. These puerh are good when they are young, but for aging 'Tie Guan Yin' or 'Shui Xian' will loose its taste after time. About paper wrapping Never ever trust the paper wrapping. There are A grade and B grade of the same paper wrapping. Some factories are willing to do it at the cost the seller wants, and so depending on the cost the factories will compress raw material based on the price. Problem is, some factories uses back the same packing of those better grade. Some factories after selling of their first batch, and when market responded well they will reproduce second batch (lesser quality material) and sell it as first batch. The printing on it also is not trustable. First batch (eg 901) may not mean it is Spring leaves, it can be left over from previous year and Spring leaves can be later batch (eg 902). How do you overcome this? Buy from trustworthy sellers and listen to buyers who are experience. How often does puerh changes it character/taste? Roughly every 2 ½ years puerh (stored in Malaysia) will change its character/taste. If at one time you like the character/taste very much, you can opt to vacuum seal it which will slow down the aging. How to taste tea? When the tea is in your mouth, don't swallow it entirely. 1) Swallow a little (leaving some in your mouth). 2) Pause. 3) Swallow the rest. 4) Don't immediately open your mouth. Let the tea 'Chi' stay in your mouth for a while. By doing this method, you will enjoy the tea in 3 diff taste at a single sip. Your entire mouth and throat will feel the tea. This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 25 2010, 04:04 PM |
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Oct 26 2010, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 25 2010, 07:27 AM) RM48. Yes, this classic is easy to drink even it is young raw. Very expensive. I gave up on Dayi tea nowadays. Better go for others like mengku or lao tong zhi. |
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Oct 26 2010, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 26 2010, 12:31 AM) Very expensive. I gave up on Dayi tea nowadays. Better go for others like mengku or lao tong zhi. Indeed. Speaking of expensive, Dayi's 2010 Yiwu has arrived and is about RM120 (b4 discount price). I am tasting it now, good but not great. |
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Oct 26 2010, 03:36 AM
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Lol, Dayi tea is good for speculation purpose
RM120 may sound expensive right now, but one year from now when u look at the price again, u'll ask urself why didn't buy more back then, if you enjoy the tea that is Look at the price movement of yiwuzhengshan 2009 and u'll see what I mean. |
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Oct 26 2010, 02:56 PM
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my favourite tea - osmanthus fragrance... "Kwai Fa" ... wondering where gt sell? how much ?
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Oct 27 2010, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Oct 26 2010, 03:36 AM) Lol, Dayi tea is good for speculation purpose For this price, you can easily get a 4-5 years old raw puerh. Not really worth paying for a new tea. For yiwuzhengshan, recently I managed to get a few tong 2003 cake for around RM200++ RM120 may sound expensive right now, but one year from now when u look at the price again, u'll ask urself why didn't buy more back then, if you enjoy the tea that is Look at the price movement of yiwuzhengshan 2009 and u'll see what I mean. One collector letting go of his collectionAdded on October 27, 2010, 12:31 am QUOTE(ukiya @ Oct 26 2010, 02:56 PM) my favourite tea - osmanthus fragrance... "Kwai Fa" ... wondering where gt sell? how much ? Try Kuyichai at Curve. They should have stock this flower tea.This post has been edited by cuebiz: Oct 27 2010, 12:31 AM |
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Oct 27 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 27 2010, 12:29 AM) For this price, you can easily get a 4-5 years old raw puerh. Not really worth paying for a new tea. For yiwuzhengshan, recently I managed to get a few tong 2003 cake for around RM200++ How lucky you are One collector letting go of his collection So from which factory is your yiwuzhengshan. How was the taste? Aged well? |
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Oct 27 2010, 04:36 PM
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Pu-erh Tea Cultivation in Yunnan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGOtiTze7U Pu-erh Tea Cake Pressing Factory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThOL272oEqI Preliminary Pu-erh Tea Processing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3RyaLTg1mg Pu-erh Tea Quality & Safety Symbol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU9Q7F6L7d0 |
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Oct 27 2010, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Oct 27 2010, 11:36 AM) How lucky you are Only Menghai factory can command such price. Taste is ok but still need to keep for aging. Hopefully the stock market will tank so that some cash starved collector will sell their tea cheap... So from which factory is your yiwuzhengshan. How was the taste? Aged well? |
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Oct 28 2010, 08:00 AM
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Research rejects green tea for breast cancer prevention
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/201...c-rrg102610.php Public release date: 27-Oct-2010 Research rejects green tea for breast cancer prevention Green tea does not protect against breast cancer. A study of data from approximately 54,000 women, published in BioMed Central's open access journal Breast Cancer Research, found no association between drinking green tea and breast cancer risk. Motoki Iwasaki, from the National Cancer Center, Tokyo, worked with a team of researchers to carry out the study. He said, "Although in vitro and animal-based studies have suggested that green tea may have beneficial protective effects against breast cancer, results from human studies have been inconclusive. Our large-scale, population-based prospective cohort study is one of the first to include a wide range of tea intakes; women who drank green tea less than 1 cup per week to those who drank 10 or more cups per day. It found no overall association between green tea intake and the risk of breast cancer". Tea intake was assessed by questionnaire, once at the beginning of the study and then again five years later. Cancer incidence was assessed by notification from major local hospitals in the study area and data linkage with population-based cancer registries. Approximately 12% of women drank green tea less than 1 cup per week while 27% drank 5 or more cups per day. Speaking about the survey, Iwasaki said, "The other major strength of the present study was its prospective design, in which information was collected before the subsequent diagnosis of breast cancer, thereby avoiding the exposure recall bias inherent to case-control studies. Drinking green tea as a beverage is unlikely to reduce the risk of breast cancer regardless of green tea type and number of cups". |
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Oct 28 2010, 06:33 PM
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Yet another classic...
Dayi 7572 (901) - 7+3 (the last 10 pieces of the shop)  |
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Oct 28 2010, 11:21 PM
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7572. One of my favourite shou. The other being 7581
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Oct 30 2010, 04:01 PM
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Yun Feng (Chinese Green Tea). Price at about 100g @ USD29, it doesn't sound that cheap... but among the other high end tea in the shop, this is considered cheap and a good taste value for money.
   There is a touch of bitterness (perhaps is because I accidentally put too much leaves to water ratio), nonetheless after going through the 2nd infusion, I can feel deep sweet aftertaste in my throat and is quite long lasting. Overall, quite a refreshing green tea to drink on a Sat noon This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 30 2010, 04:01 PM |
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Oct 31 2010, 06:41 PM
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Just had a Puerh Marathon today...
2007 GuoYan Ripe - Yellow Stamp 90s Gong Ting Ripe 2007 GuoYan Raw - 66 2007 GuoYan Raw - 88 2007 GuoYan Raw - 99 2006 Kunming Raw - 6611 2006 Kunming Raw - Di Yi Ping (export) 2006 Kunming Ripe - Di Yi Ping (export) 2007 GuoYan Ripe - Red Stamp 2003 Menghai Raw - 7542 1999 Xia Guan Raw Winner of course goes to: 70s Raw - USD1700 / beeng This post has been edited by auhckw: Oct 31 2010, 08:31 PM |
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Oct 31 2010, 10:36 PM
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I just want to say nice tea stuff here
I fav is fermented tea and collecting tea cup which i like of course. |
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Nov 5 2010, 10:33 PM
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Nov 6 2010, 04:54 PM
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New tray to compliment my 2 new Yixing
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Nov 6 2010, 10:13 PM
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Sabah Tea sees robust growth in tea, tourism
http://www.theborneopost.com/?p=73078 by Ronnie Teo. Posted on November 6, 2010, Saturday KUCHING: Tracing its history back to the 1800s, the trade of tea and tea-related products have been pivotal to the growth of economies of many countries such as China, India, Japan and Tibet for its health benefits and use in traditional remedies. In fact, it was common knowledge that tea played a crucial role in the development of history of major countries where tea took precedence in traditions and rituals of life. With this in mind, Sabah Tea Sdn Bhd (Sabah Tea) aimed to uphold the mentality and mechanisms of savouring tea by incorporating it with local elements to serve the market in Malaysia. “We want to provide consumers and the public with a healthier choice of tea. Our Sabah Tea is 100 per cent pesticide free due to its strategic location, surrounded by the pristine rainforest around Mount Kinabalu,” said Sabah Tea’s director Goh Mung Chwee in an exclusive with The Borneo Post. With a defining motto – ‘From the Borneo Rainforest’ – the state government of Sabah, under Chief Minister Datuk Harris Salleh, was the visionary for the initiation of this venture. Goh revealed that the plantation originally began as a socio-economic project by the state government to develop the then-forested Kampung Nalapak area to provide jobs to the local people. Apart from selling tea and tea-related products, Sabah Tea also offered educational holidays and holiday packages for guests to visit its tea gardens. “Tourism plays a critical role in educating people about the fact that our teas are grown without pesticides. This segment contributes immensely in establishing a strong Sabah Tea product brand. “On the company’s revenue distribution, tea provides 80 per cent of sales while tourism contributes 20 per cent on a 4:1 ratio,” Goh revealed. “All our tourism activities and packages have an educational component with responsible tourism practices such as pesticide-free and organic tea cultivation, role of rainforests in providing food to insects, guided nature walks, tea gift packs using leaves and so forth,” he added. The tourism aspect also preserved the seven ethnic cultures of Sabah via its longhouses aimed at educating visitors about its history similar to the concept practiced at the Sarawak Cultural Village in Santubong. “Feedback from local and overseas visitors has been very positive as evidenced by the increasing number of tourists coming in. In 2005, we had 4,000 visitors, in 2009, we had 10,000 visitors, including day trips and overnighters. “Our focus is on nature lovers, people who want an escape from the hectic city life, travellers who want to learn something useful while on vacation, and group travellers,” he explained. As Sabah Tea’s plantation plots were one of the few tea plantations in the world certified to produce organic tea, the group’s products faced strategic competition in the market with other drinks such as cordial drinks, coffee products and such. Goh said, “Our Borneo Rainforest Organic Tea is the only tea grown organically in Malaysia and in Borneo. Sales are growing rapidly as international tourists and as well Malaysia visitors are choosing to buy our organic teas. “Since our organic production is limited in volume, we rarely advertise our organic teas. We compete very well against heavy sugar-based beverages.” As proof of the group’s innovative progress for its tea-related products, Sabah Tea was in the process of promoting its unique tea biscuits throughout November called Sabah Tea Bites at its outlet in Sabah as well as tourist gift shops throughout Malaysia. “We are currently working on several new flavoured teas as well. We already have unique flavours such as pandan, cinnamon, ginger, tongkat ali and geranium, and we plan to add these to our collection of tea gift packs. Goh wrapped up the interview by confiding his future expectations for the company. “We are exploring exciting projects which we hope to announce in 2011. Our goal is to make Sabah Tea’s garden a must-stop destination for visitors to the Kinabalu Park- Kundasang area.” |
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Nov 6 2010, 10:15 PM
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Green Tea May Help Fight Alzheimers Disease
http://www.evliving.com/2010/11/04/green-t...eimers-disease/ November 4, 2010 · Published By Associate Editor November is National Alzheimer’s Disease Month, bringing attention to the 5.3 million Americans who are affected by this disease. With the baby boomer generation rapidly aging, Alzheimer’s will continue to affect millions more lives. Green Tea has a popular reputation for its health benefits and is known for benefiting conditions such as cancer, high cholesterol and cardiovascular problems. Green tea has once again proved itself as a ‘super’ tea. An antioxidant in green tea (a flavonoid found in plants) may fight the memory robbing effects seen with plaque deposits in Alzheimer’s. Practitioner Dr. Martha Howard, MD recommends drinking green tea to help prevent the onset of Alzheimer’s for the following three reasons. 1. The antioxidant known as epigallocatechin-3-gallate (EGCG) significantly reduces the formation of beta-amyloid proteins in the brain. An abnormal buildup of beta-amyloid plaque in the brain is implicated in the nerve damage and memory loss seen in Alzheimer’s disease. 2. Tea inhibits the activity of the enzyme acetylcholinesterase (AChE) which breaks down the chemical messenger or neurotransmitter, acetylcholine. Alzheimer’s is characterized by a drop in acetylcholine. 3. Green tea hinders the activity of the enzyme butyrylcholinesterase (BuChE). Green tea has Catechins in which half is made up of EGCG, which is 20 times more powerful than vitamin C as an antioxidant. Published on behalf of Chicago Healers Chicago Healers is the nation’s pioneer prescreened integrative health care network, offering a comprehensive understanding of each practitioner’s services, approach, and philosophy. Our holistic health experts teach and advocate natural and empowered health and life choices through their practices, the media, educational events, and our website. With close to 200 practitioners and over 300 treatment services, Chicago Healers has provided nearly 400 free educational events for Chicagoans and has been featured in 300+ TV news programs and print publications. For more information, visit http://www.chicagohealers.com/. |
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Nov 7 2010, 06:17 PM
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Today's purchase...
 Left -> Right 7532 - 801 = 9 pieces 0712 - 701 = 9 pieces 8582 - 701 = 9 pieces |
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Nov 8 2010, 12:13 PM
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auhckw, that is a lot of tea! It probably can take me forever to drink finish it
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Nov 8 2010, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(blueye @ Nov 8 2010, 12:13 PM) auhckw, that is a lot of tea! It probably can take me forever to drink finish it I'm intending to progressively stock up young puerh of different range for aging and to consume it when retire in 20+ years. By then my collection will be oldies of 20+ years old. That time these babies 'should' be quite nice to drink and worth some money. I don't intend so sell them, and knowing these are kept personally will ensure cleaner stored puerh and cheaper puerh consumption. My hope is that it will aged well... only time will tell (hope that don't come that fast too... haha)Tea prices are going up every year, due to tea shortage from drought and increased sales volume. 2010 is quite a bad year for china and india. Therefore, tea pesticides & fertilizers are being used. Not too healthy thing. This kind of thing may get worse in years to come. So while I can still afford to buy them now, buy some lo |
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Nov 8 2010, 04:51 PM
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Ya, i used to think like that too. So I do keep some stock. But I drank finish my 1998 puer.
Now i am drinking other tea while waiting for my brick ferment tea to aged. Hey I forgot to samples my mushroom tea again!!! My buddy said it was drank by the monk. Few sips and you forget everything. Better than alcohol! Joking. |
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Nov 8 2010, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(blueye @ Nov 8 2010, 04:51 PM) Ya, i used to think like that too. So I do keep some stock. But I drank finish my 1998 puer. Mind to share what you have in stock? Now i am drinking other tea while waiting for my brick ferment tea to aged. Hey I forgot to samples my mushroom tea again!!! My buddy said it was drank by the monk. Few sips and you forget everything. Better than alcohol! Joking. |
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Nov 9 2010, 12:47 AM
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I think you guys better keep your bullets ready for the tea expo at MINES. I do know of a vendor that going to release Dayi and Xiaguan 2006 batches at cheap prices on behalf of one of their customers. Probably desperately in need of cash
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Nov 9 2010, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 9 2010, 12:47 AM) I think you guys better keep your bullets ready for the tea expo at MINES. I do know of a vendor that going to release Dayi and Xiaguan 2006 batches at cheap prices on behalf of one of their customers. Probably desperately in need of cash I was planning to get 0622 (901) cause couldn't find the 601. So I hope the vendor you mentioned has got 0622 (601). |
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Nov 9 2010, 10:34 AM
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The Sixth South East Asia Puer Tea Trade Fair 2010
19 to 28 November 2010 Malaysia International Exhibition & Convention Centre (MECC)  More:- http://www.teaculturalexpo.com/activities.asp This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 9 2010, 10:38 AM |
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Nov 9 2010, 02:30 PM
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My lunch...
 2007 Menghai "Chen Yun" 701 Raw Pu-erh tea cake * 400g x 9 pieces |
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Nov 9 2010, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 8 2010, 05:01 PM) Mind to share what you have in stock? sure, after I take the photo of course. Nothing great like you all I see you all buy alot of tea. One of my fav area to go for tea is Klang Parade. One shop there selling tea sometimes got good offer check it out. Since its Klang, you might want to samples some food that is good matching with tea |
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Nov 9 2010, 08:47 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 9 2010, 08:08 AM) I was planning to get 0622 (901) cause couldn't find the 601. So I hope the vendor you mentioned has got 0622 (601). Yes. They have. Not sure if all has been pre booked by its customer cause I already got 1 box |
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Nov 9 2010, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 9 2010, 08:47 PM) Yes. They have. Not sure if all has been pre booked by its customer cause I already got 1 box Lucky you How much did you buy your 0622 (601)? And when did you buy it? |
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Nov 9 2010, 09:35 PM
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Got myself some puerh boxes and rearranged my cabinet. In the picture are my Unopened stocks. Opened stocks are kept separately in the living room and some in office.
Though my cabinet has got raw and ripe, but it is separated in the shelf and there is no smell in it. So raw and ripe shouldn’t influence each other.  1st shelf: ->2009 – 7542 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2008 – 7532 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2007 – 8582 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2007 – 0712 – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2010 – Year of Tiger – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2006 – Lao Ban Zhang Raw Pu-erh – 400g Beeng x 1 piece ->2010 – Mi Di Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 1 piece ->2008 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 1 piece ->2010 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 1 piece 2nd shelf: ->2007 – Chen Yun – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 400g Beeng x 9 pieces ->2009 – Gong Tuo – Menghai Taetea Raw Pu-erh – 100g Tuo x 24 pieces ->2010 – Golden Ribbon XY – Xia Guan Raw Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 9 pieces ->Hojo’s Vintage 30 years Oolong ->Hojo’s Ali Shan Cha Oolong ->Empty toong box 1 ->Empty toong box 2 3rd shelf: ->2009 – 7572 – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 10 pieces ->2010 – Royal Court Gong Ting – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 200g Beeng x 8 pieces ->2010 – Gong Tuo – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 100g Tuo x 2 pieces ->90s (Early) – Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh – 1kg Loose x 1 box ->2007 – Yunnan Chi Tse Beeng Cha Yellow Stamp – Guoyan Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 15 pieces ->2006 – 7581 – Kunming Ripe Pu-erh – 250g Brick x 2 pieces ->Empty toong box 1 4th shelf: ->2009 – Dragon Pole – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 357g Beeng x 15 pieces ->2009 – Taetea Golden Brick – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh – 1kg Brick x 1 box ->Hojo’s Shi Feng Long Jing ->Empty beeng boxes (many) This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 9 2010, 10:43 PM |
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Nov 9 2010, 09:54 PM
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last time i used fruit wrapper to wrap each tea
but now I have less selection of tea, mostly puer, shuixian, 6pow, mushroom tea, and few raw and ripe puer sometimes great tea moment is drank among good friend |
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Nov 9 2010, 10:33 PM
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Coca-Cola to introduce new tea flavors
http://www.ajc.com/business/coca-cola-to-i...uce-733666.html Atlanta Business News 6:13 p.m. Monday, November 8, 2010 Coca-Cola Co. is rolling out four new varieties of Fuze and Gold Peak teas to accentuate flavors that have grown in popularity in recent years. Fuze raspberry and unsweetened green tea should be available for restaurant operators by December, with green tea and tropical versions of Gold Peak available early next year. Raspberry and tropical flavors are among the top 10 demanded flavors in restaurants, according to research group Mintel, while green tea's popularity has grown because of perceived health benefits. "As the fresh-brewed tea market continues to grow, [restaurant] operators are seeking new options to satisfy health-conscious customers with a variety of taste preferences," said Scott Young, Coca-Cola's senior vice president of foodservice strategy and marketing. |
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Nov 9 2010, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 9 2010, 09:11 PM) Lucky you Just recently purchase only. RM40++ per piece since buy 1 box.. The tea vendor will put out the rest for sale at the tea expo..I hope this coming expo got good quality tea at reasonable prices for sale. How much did you buy your 0622 (601)? And when did you buy it? |
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Nov 9 2010, 10:44 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 9 2010, 10:40 PM) Just recently purchase only. RM40++ per piece since buy 1 box.. The tea vendor will put out the rest for sale at the tea expo..I hope this coming expo got good quality tea at reasonable prices for sale. Wow... your price is even cheaper than 901. I hope I can get your price in the expo. Current market price about RM100+ |
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Nov 10 2010, 03:06 AM
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Too bad, my living place is far away from Mines, and I probably won't have much time this month, so I'll have to skip this one
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Nov 11 2010, 08:48 AM
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Green tea and pimples
http://www.arabtimesonline.com/NewsDetails...es/Default.aspx Updated on: 11/11/2010 Green tea has proved to be anti-bacterial that reduces inflammation, decreases hormone activity, capable of killing the potentially deadly Staphylococcus Aureus and the bacteria that cause Bacterium acne. Green tea’s antioxidants have been shown to be highly beneficial to acne prevention. These antioxidants help your body to fight against free radicals that cause damage to cells and tissues in your body. Green tea therapy is less toxic and has fewer or no side effects as compare to other drug based products. Simply putting green tea bags on the face can work quite rapidly. Added on November 11, 2010, 8:50 am  This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 11 2010, 08:50 AM |
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Nov 11 2010, 08:52 AM
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Tea output shortfall widens on weather woes
http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Tea-o...er-woes/708859/ Posted: Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010 at 0047 hrs IST Kolkata: As the October production of tea is likely to come down owing to fluctuating weather, shortage in the pipeline stock of Indian tea seems to be around 70-80 million kg (mkgs) this year. A good crop in September lifted spirits of the industry but it seems to be far from compensating losses made earlier this year. The Indian tea industry started the year with a shortage of about 50 mkgs, a shortage in production for the third consecutive year. All India production during September this year crossed 108 mkgs against 101.4 mkgs during September 2009. Assam production touched almost 63 mkgs against 55.6 mkgs during September last year while production in West Bengal was 24.2 mkgs against 20.8 mkgs for the corresponding period in 2009. While North Indian production was up by almost 11 mkgs during September, South Indian production was down by 4.2 mkgs and came down to 18.3 mkgs from last year’s level of 22.6 mkgs. S Patra, joint secretary of Indian Tea Association, said production during October is likely to be down due to erratic weather conditions. Apart from that plucking has been less in October due to the festive season. “All put together we are expecting a pipeline shortage of around 80 mkgs this year,” said an industry expert. According to CS Bedi, managing director of Rossell Tea, pipeline shortage could touch the 80-mkgs mark. “Production in October was heavy last year. That won’t be equalled this year. Moreover, we barely have 20-25 days of production left this year.” During the first two flush north Indian crop suffered pest attacks this year which hit production hard and is still in a weak condition. But such a shortage is likely to help tea prices in coming months. “Tea prices have already firmed up by Rs 10 in the last four weeks. We expect the market to hold the price by end of the year,” Bedi said. While average auction price for north India increased by Rs 4.29 per kg during January-September period this year, average south Indian tea prices were down by around Rs 15 per kg. |
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Nov 11 2010, 08:56 AM
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Chinese jasmine tea battles with Britain to be tops
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90...60/7193670.html 17:05, November 09, 2010 China is one of the world's largest producers and consumers of tea, but on the international market, 80 percent of profits from tea production are scooped up by Britain. However, this is likely to change — at least in some certain sub-sectors such as the jasmine tea. Lipton, the world famous British brand, boasts nearly 3 billion U.S. dollars in annual sales, while Chinese tea exports are priced at even less than 1 U.S. dollar per 500 kilogram, much lower than that of Lipton. Several problems have kept Chinese tea off the coffee tables off foreign consumers. On one hand, China’s tea export has low added-value and exporters are not successful in brand-building on the international market. On the other hand, tea importing markets are increasing their health standards, such as the pesticide residue standards, which makes it even more difficult for Chinese tea to compete with British tea. Jasmine tea used to be a luxury product and an important export in and from China. The jasmine tea business was very prosperous in Fuzhou, the capital city of Fujian Province in the southeast costal areas, during the 19th century until the 1980s. For example, 35 percent of China's tea exports in the late 19th century came from Fuzhou. But now jasmine tea has become regarded by most consumers as a low-end, cheap tea, and its production has been scaled down a lot due to its low quality and distorted market. Local enterprises and governments are trying to change that and have made some progress. Fuzhou jasmine tea has become the world's only jasmine tea with the three qualifications, including a geographic indication trade mark, a recognition and protection in place of origin and a geographic indication for agro-products. The annual output value reached 1.5 billion yuan. With the support of the government, an industrial alliance has been launched to combine the resources from experts, growers and enterprises to push forward a healthy, booming market and brand-building. The alliance is led by Fu Tianlong, chairman of Chunlun Group, the leading jasmine producer in Fuzhou. Its environmentally-friendly tea plantation creates more than 1.5 million kilogram for sale each year. Roughly 20 percent of it goes to the overseas market, mainly covering Russia, Europe, the United States and Southeast Asia. "We dominate the world market of jasmine tea," said Fu. Chen Qi, vice mayor of Fuzhou, disclosed that the government is supporting the application of the Fuzhou jasmine tea for recognition as an U.N. intangible cultural heritage. Chen Wenhui, an official with the local agricultural administration, said farmers who grow jasmine would see their subsidies double next year. He added that the government was also helping local producers with brand promotion by sponsoring some market promotion activities. The business benefits farmers. By joining Chunlun's production base, a household can increase their income by 20,000 yuan a year, Fu said. And jasmine tea is also catching up with foreign tea producers in terms of prices. The high-end Chunlun tea costs 2,000 yuan for every 500 grams on the Beijing retail market. And one of its products even was auctioned at a price of 52,000 yuan for 450 grams. Whether Chinese jasmine tea will be able to challenge the dominance of British Lipton needs time to prove, however, it is good that customers have more choices on the international market. |
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Nov 12 2010, 11:28 PM
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<updated-with addition 3rd zhuni>
Just got these 3 this week, modern Zhuni teapot made in this year. Clay was from 90s. The seller claimed that the clay is pure zhuni and not mixed. According to the seller (if I interpret her mandarin properly), this is semi hand made from a factory which produces mass teapots. The design is custom made for them and clay is selected by one of their contacts who is well known for making pots. She told me the name of the person, but I couldn't remember the name. These 3 pots are marked with the shops signature and the year it is made on the outer bottom. The person (unknown person) who did the pot has a signature below the cap. All the pots are made by 3 diff person. Outer Bottom Signature  Tacha Zhuni Teapot – Chuo Qiu Hu Dedicated for Ripe Pu-erh Size: 140ml  Tacha Zhuni Teapot – Chuo Zhi Hu Dedicated for Young Raw Pu-erh (1 to 10 years) Size: 120ml  Tacha Zhuni Teapot – Shui Ping Hu Dedicated for Aged Raw Pu-erh (Above 10 years) Size: 160ml  All 3 passed the:- 1) Tilt 90 degrees and cap won't fall off 2) While pouring, cover the hole on the cap and the water would stopped instantly 3) While holding the hole on the spout, turn the pot upside down and the cap would not fall off 4) Pouring the water out in less than 10 seconds (without leaves) This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 13 2010, 12:00 PM |
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Nov 12 2010, 11:34 PM
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auhckw, you like traditional look teapot? I usually like the one with writing when its wet it look different then when its dry.
Pouring hot water on the teapot is a very enjoying moment. of course must follow with the smell of tea |
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Nov 12 2010, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(blueye @ Nov 12 2010, 11:34 PM) auhckw, you like traditional look teapot? I usually like the one with writing when its wet it look different then when its dry. Actually I don't have much choice. The shop only have the 3 design for Zhuni. Loving it Pouring hot water on the teapot is a very enjoying moment. of course must follow with the smell of tea I have not rear a yixing before, hope it will turn out well |
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QUOTE I was told and shown that when pouring hot water into the teapot / gaiwan, you have to be careful not to damage the leaves. The proper method is to let the water spin and not letting the water hit directly onto the leaves directly from the top with pressure. ~Lesson from TC~I was shown these test:- 1) Spinning pour -Water was poured on the corner, the water was spinning the leaves. -This according to the seller is the proper way of not spoiling the leaves and getting the best out of it. 2) Pouring directly on top of the leaves -The taste somehow differs not much. But infusion time couldn't last as long as Spinning pour. 3) Pour very very slow and gently on the side, without much leaves movement. -This can last the longest infusion and the taste from the leaves will come out slow. 4) Shake the pot with the leaves in it (with / without water) or Flip the leaves in the pot -The colour of tea that came out was murkier. -The taste was off and stronger. According to the seller, step 3 and 4 are some 'cheat' techniques for some sellers. I was very surprised with the 4th outcome, the seller was just flipping the leaves a little, shook the pot a little and the output came out quite differently. Brewing time was normal. |
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Nov 13 2010, 12:21 PM
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There are many ways to brew a good tea with teapot or gaiwan. Every tea drinker has its own technique. Diff teapot clay is used for diff types of tea. For example, Zhuni, it is more suitable for shuixian rather than puer. You just have to test them out whether it is suitable or not.
When I sample tea, I usually ask the seller for samples and I bring it home and taste it in my place with my equipment. Very seldom I taste at tea shop and make decision to buy on the spot. |
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Nov 13 2010, 08:54 PM
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Most probably my last toong 7+2 for this year...
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Nov 14 2010, 06:17 PM
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Went to Hojo today. I browsed through their usual teawares that they show on their website, but they now have some 20 to 30 years old yixing zhuni which they acquired from a private collector. These were non display items but only shown to regulars. They said the performance of the clay is good. They even have 2 yixing zhuni which is by artist but is newly made. I didnt think about them cause I just bought 3 zhuni last week, but I nearly bought one of their Sado cause been wanting one for collection, too bad the one i like is used and brand new is not available in outlet but available in their office.
They have brought in 6 dan cong phoenix oolong. I tasted 3 of em. As usual Hojo taste and selection is good. I then tasted their 2 sencha and asahina gyokuro. I still prefer their gyokuro over sencha. So what did I buy today? 2 of their chinese green tea. Yun Feng and Taiping Houkui. Took back a Lu Mei sample. |
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Nov 14 2010, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE(MilaniBlack @ Nov 14 2010, 08:35 PM) I am the one of tea lover i think life is so unromantic and boring without tea,,,, So what kind of tea do you mostly drink? |
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Nov 14 2010, 08:54 PM
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碧螺春 and 小龙珠 are some of my favorites
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Nov 16 2010, 03:12 PM
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 The taste reminds me of chewing gum... This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 18 2010, 09:04 AM |
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Nov 18 2010, 09:05 AM
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How Drinking More Black Tea Can Change Your Life
http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/health...11/16/id/377110 Tuesday, 16 Nov 2010 09:46 AM The fragrant leaves of the camellia sinensis plant have been brewed since ancient times into a health drink for medicinal purposes. The best place to find this magical drink is in your local supermarket in the section marked "tea." Tea whether black, green, or white has many health benefits, which include weight loss and prevention of heart disease. Black tea leaves are processed differently from green and white (which are hardly processed), and are allowed to go through a process of oxidation. Tea is rich in “antioxidant” properties. Some of the well-known black tea benefits include: --Black tea benefits the heart. Black tea causes the blood vessels to expand, thereby increasing the blood flow to the heart, which reduces the risks of heart attacks as well as “heart diseases.” Studies have shown that three cups of black tea can reduce the risk of stroke. --Black tea helps fight cancer. It is thought that black tea can slow down the growth of cancerous cells without affecting the healthy cells. --Black tea helps you look young. Studies have shown that black tea can retard the aging process and is currently being used in anti-aging creams and lotions. --Black tea burns fat and speeds up metabolism. It is an ideal drink to have if you are looking to lose weight. Besides “weight loss,” black tea also reduces the bad “cholesterol,” and helps people whose “cholesterol” levels are high. --Black tea is good for diabetics, as it decreases glucose levels and slows the absorption of blood sugar. --Black tea has also been shown to relieve diarrhea because of the tannins that it contains. Drinking black tea slows down intestinal activity and reduces the pains associated with diarrhea. It has a soothing anti-inflammatory effect. --Black tea contains low amounts of caffeine, which promotes blood flow to the brain, which in turn sharpens mental focus and ability to concentrate without overstimulating the heart. --Black tea is beneficial in certain respiratory illnesses, especially asthma, and can provide relief in breathing difficulties. Although the benefits of black tea far outweigh any side effects, some individuals have reported symptoms of anxiety, an increased heart rate, and worsening of ulcer symptoms after consuming tea. It is advisable to drink a moderate 3-5 cups or to consult a medical practitioner if you experience any side effects. The benefits of black tea are further enhanced, if it is drunk without milk and sugar. |
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Nov 19 2010, 12:00 AM
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Just got this Zini
Tacha Zini Teapot – Chuo Qiu Hu Dedicated for Young Ripe Pu-erh Size: 120ml    Info from the seller:- -This is new production using 90s clay which is from Factory No. 1. -It was made by one of the studio in Factory No. 1. -This pot is Tiao Sha. Mixed of the same kind of clay from different batch (if i interpreted correctly) but is still considered pure. This pot passed the:- 1) Tilt 90 degrees and cap won't fall off 2) While pouring, cover the hole on the cap and the water would stopped instantly 3) While holding the hole on the spout, turn the pot upside down and the cap would not fall off 4) Pouring the water out in less than 10 seconds (without leaves) This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 19 2010, 12:14 AM |
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Nov 19 2010, 10:50 AM
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QUOTE How many brew is enough for raw pu (in terms of health)? ~Lesson from TC~-Rule of thumb, not until the leaves are totally awaken / wide opened |
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Nov 19 2010, 11:00 AM
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I would like to summarized what I've learned about Yixing clay for the past 1 week from a teashop (TC). Previously I know nothing about Yixing clay, and I hope what I've learned is correct, so correct me if I've learned wrong
General Info Yixing is the name of a place where it is famous for producing clays for teapots, there are other places which produces those similar clay out of Yixing such as Chao Zhou, Sado, etc. Place to mine clays are usually from Mountain or Mines. Some of Yixing clay is getting depleted/extinct, where new teapots are made based on previous harvested clay which was mined and stored long ago. Government has even prevent some of the mining from certain area and not releasing new license to mine them. Back then, there is this Factory No. 1. It is the main factory that produces Teapots. The Factory is no longer operational but there are many sub studios in it that is making teapots. There are also many artist and freelancer who are doing it too out of the studio. Types of Clay The word Zisha is the general word for the clay. There are 3 sub categories of Zisha:- -Zini (Purple clay) - Also known as Zisha -Hongni (Red Clay) -Duanni (Green Clay) There are many sub categories for the 3 types of clays too, Eg, Zini has a subcategory called Di Cao Cing, etc, Hongni has a subcategory called Zhuni, etc. In general in order to make a teapot, the clay is mixed, cause by itself it is too soft to form the shape. It is a matter of what they mixed. Mixed with own kind of clay / cooked clay? Mixed with sand? Mixed with chemical to produce/mimic certain kind of clay? The level of mixture? Firing method/temperature for baking the teapot will also differ the colour of the teapot of the same category. And for some kind of teapots, some chemical are purposely put in to make it become black, other colours and glossy. So in terms of functionality how does it defers? Zini:- -Smoother feeling on the throat -Reduces bitterness, astringency -More porous -Retain heat lesser Hongni:- -Produce lesser smooth feeling on the throat like Zini. The feeling is more on the tongue and mouth area -It will beef up the aroma and flavor of the tea compared to Zini. Bringing the higher note of the tea -Less porous -Retain heat better Duanni -Not as smooth as Zini -Not as aroma and flavor as Hongni -Balance? If the tea itself is bitter, Hongni will boost it up so it would be better to go for Zini that is able to absorb it better it is more porous. But if the tea itself is the kind of roasted (oolong) or has weaker aroma and flavor, using Hongni would be good as it improves it. Choosing which clay for which tea can differ from one person to another depending on how the person likes his/her tea. So there is no rule for what can go in or not in the pot, or what is better or lesser good for the pot. So trial and error till you find yourself what you liked. But it is always best to dedicate the pot for a certain kind of tea and not mixing too much. Modern vs Old clay People usually say Old teapots are better as it is better/purer clay. It may be true, but workmanship and firing techniques used back then may be of lesser quality and consistency as Modern teapots. And clay no matter Modern or Old are still clay from thousands of years old from the ground. Clay did not come out of yesterday. How to check a teapot? -The front spout and the back handle should be aligned -Look out for hairline cracks. This is usually more obvious after the teapot is rinsed with hot water and cooled down -Pour some hot water in, let it sit for a while. Pour out the hot water. Smell the inner pot for any weird chemical smell -Holding and pouring of the water should be smooth. There shouldn't be a lot of leakage from the cap -The shorter the time for it to pour the water out, the better it is for not over steeping the tea leaves -Tilt the teapot 90 degrees and cap should not fall off. Be very careful -Depending on the design of the teapot, while pouring, cover the hole on the cap and the water would stopped instantly -If the hole is not reachable, put in some water (3/4 full), while holding the hole on the spout, turn the pot upside down and the cap should not fall off. Be very careful How to open a new teapot Traditional method is to boil it, then put in some tea leaves you want for the pot to be dedicated, and cook it. But this method may be dangerous as it may clog the pores of the teapot and also may cause uneven glossiness next time. This was recommended instead:- -While washing the teapot with water, use something soft and wipe the inner and outer part of the teapot -If it is dirty, you can use a toothbrush and gently scrub it -Once done, fill up the teapot with normal temperature water and let it sit for a while -Pour hot water on the outer side of the teapot -Then pour hot water into the teapot which has the normal temperature water in it and let it overflow -Pour out all the water, and fill it up with hot water on the inner to the max and wetting the outer pot. Repeat this step couple of times Teapot Maintenance While using the teapot for brewing, use a brush and brush away the leftover water on the outer teapot so that it will not be stained on the particular area After cleaning the teapot (just remove the leaves, rinse with hot water, don't use soap), open up the lid and leave it to dry. Leave the lid open for couple of days. It may look dry on the outside, but inner side may be still wet. Whether or not to polish the teapot, some say it is not advisable as it will make the teapot look too glossy or unnatural glossy. |
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Nov 19 2010, 05:45 PM
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Nov 21 2010, 12:05 PM
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my teapot
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Nov 21 2010, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(blueye @ Nov 21 2010, 12:05 PM) my teapot Nice carving. Both matching, set? Hongni and Zini?This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 21 2010, 08:24 PM |
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Nov 21 2010, 08:24 PM
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The Sixth South East Asia Puer Tea Trade Fair 2010
Took me 1 hour to enter the building. There are 2 other fair running same place and time. Chinese Book Fair and Retirement Fair (if i see correctly). I think this is my first time in a hall full of chinese books. Quite impressive and crowded. I probably should have not put so high hope for this puer fair. The puer fair is at the corridor outside the book fair hall. I walked 3 rounds didn't find anything that interest me. There are some yixing artist (unknown faces to me) promoting their pots at expensive price tag. The crowd were most likely from the book fair. Did I get anything? Nope. Will I purposely go to the fair again? Nope. |
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Nov 21 2010, 09:42 PM
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2004 - Xia Guan Golden Ribbon - 16 Tou
First year of this product. I tried the 2007 and 2004 version of this. So much different. 2007 tea colour seems darker than 2004, but still has the smokiness, bitterness and astringency. 2004 is without it and is smoother and has some sweetness. 2007 is also good but I think few more years would make it better. Price wise, 2004 is nearly double the price of 2007.    2007 - Xia Guan Special Grade - 1 Tou = Free  This post has been edited by auhckw: Nov 21 2010, 11:01 PM |
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Nov 21 2010, 10:49 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 21 2010, 08:24 PM) The Sixth South East Asia Puer Tea Trade Fair 2010 I think you should go there just to know the tea shop owners and also learn. If not mistaken, there are tea talk and forum where you can learn from the master. If you are in luck, someone will sponsor aged tea to brew and all can have a chance to drink. Last year at mid valley, one tea shop owner sponsored 1946 SongPin and I was there Took me 1 hour to enter the building. There are 2 other fair running same place and time. Chinese Book Fair and Retirement Fair (if i see correctly). I think this is my first time in a hall full of chinese books. Quite impressive and crowded. I probably should have not put so high hope for this puer fair. The puer fair is at the corridor outside the book fair hall. I walked 3 rounds didn't find anything that interest me. There are some yixing artist (unknown faces to me) promoting their pots at expensive price tag. The crowd were most likely from the book fair. Did I get anything? Nope. Will I purposely go to the fair again? Nope. This tea will probably cost you RMxxxx for one teapot if you drink them in China. |
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Nov 21 2010, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 21 2010, 10:49 PM) I think you should go there just to know the tea shop owners and also learn. If not mistaken, there are tea talk and forum where you can learn from the master. If you are in luck, someone will sponsor aged tea to brew and all can have a chance to drink. Last year at mid valley, one tea shop owner sponsored 1946 SongPin and I was there I think those people are busy to be able to teach much. I think I would prefer to be spending time with them at their shops than the booth. No luck drinking any super expensive tea This tea will probably cost you RMxxxx for one teapot if you drink them in China.Just noticed my 2004 - Xia Guan Golden Ribbon is Sept editions, and on the net I found May editions I wonder is May and Sept from the same batch but different printing dates, or is totally different batch  |
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Nov 22 2010, 12:24 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 21 2010, 11:17 PM) I think those people are busy to be able to teach much. I think I would prefer to be spending time with them at their shops than the booth. No luck drinking any super expensive tea What you mean busy to teach? I can see from the schedule that there are such talks. One of speaker is Aaron Fisher who regularly writes on puer magazine. Last year I went and I learn quite number of things from him. Nice guy |
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Nov 22 2010, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 22 2010, 12:24 AM) What you mean busy to teach? I can see from the schedule that there are such talks. One of speaker is Aaron Fisher who regularly writes on puer magazine. Last year I went and I learn quite number of things from him. Nice guy Oh, you referring to the talks. I was thinking about those booths ppl |
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Nov 22 2010, 11:18 PM
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Ok, I think I finally found out what kind of worms I have seen in numerous Pu. May I introduce you...
Common Name: Silverfish, firebrat Scientific Name: Lespisma sacchrina (Linnaeus) Insect Order: Thysanura   More Photos: http://tinyurl.com/2ekcfp5 http://insects.tamu.edu/fieldguide/aimg2.html Description: Silverfish are always wingless and are silvery to brown in color because their bodies are covered with fine scales. They are generally soft bodied. Adults are up to 3/4 inch long, flattened from top to bottom, elongated and oval in shape, have three long tail projections and two long antennae. The firebrat, Thermobia domestica (Packard), is quite similar in habits but is generally darker in color. The firebrat prefers temperatures over 90 degrees F but has a similar high humidity requirement. It is common near heating pipes, fire places, ovens and other heat sources. Life Cycle: Females lay eggs continuously after reaching the adult stage and may lay over 100 eggs during her life. Eggs are deposited singly or in small groups in cracks and crevices and hatch in 3 to weeks. Silverfish develop from egg to young to adult within 4 to 6 weeks and continue to molt throughout their life. Immature stages appear similar to adults except they are about 1/20 of an inch long when they first hatch and whitish in color, taking on the adults’ silver coloring as they grow. They are long-lived, surviving from two to eight years. Simple metamorphosis (egg, nymph, adult). Habitat, Food Source(s): Silverfish are chewing insects and general feeders but prefer carbohydrates and protein, including flour, dried meat, rolled oats, paper and even glue. They and can survive long periods, sometimes over a year, without food but are sensitive to moisture and require a high humidity (75% to 90%) to survive. They also have a temperature preference between 70 and 80 degrees F. They are fast running and mostly active at night and generally prefer lower levels in homes, but may be found in attics. Pest Status, Damage: Primarily a nuisance pest inside the home or buildings; can contaminate food, damage paper goods and stain clothing; medically harmless. Many of their habits are similar to cockroaches and they appear to be more common as household pests in drier parts of the state. Occasionally damage book bindings, curtains, wallpaper. |
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Nov 22 2010, 11:54 PM
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I just did an experiment on Zini (Purple) and Zhuni (Red) teapot. I brewed my Xiaguan 2004 Golden Ribbon Raw Pu in them using same parameters.
When I tried that pu yesterday at the shop using porcelain gaiwan, it does not have smokiness, bitterness and astringency. The result for both is the same. But there is slight enhancement... In the Zini, it is smooth, felt warmer but the flavor and aroma was ok only. If I did not compare to Zhuni I would have said Zini is quite good. But in the Zhuni it is also smooth (as I believe the pu itself is smooth), but the flavor and aroma is much stronger. The tea colour was darker too. It has the less warm feeling compared to Zini, but it is more refreshing as the taste was better. So what is my preference for today's experiment? Feel warmer with Zini or more taste with Zhuni? I would go for Zhuni I have a feeling that for good quality Pu, zhuni is going to be quite a good match. And for lower grade or tough young, Zini may help to reduce the smokiness, bitterness and astringency. I have to experiment further... |
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Nov 23 2010, 02:21 PM
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I was minding my own business driving, then I saw a road block. I was stopped by 2 young girls in nice outfit.
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Nov 23 2010, 02:23 PM
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How can my collection be without a popular classic like this.
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Nov 23 2010, 08:35 PM
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Good to have year partially printed on package. As I usually forget when I brought it
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Nov 23 2010, 11:44 PM
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I start keeping a document of when I bought my pu, price, which year, picture of the pu, etc. Easier reference in the future
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Nov 23 2010, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 23 2010, 11:44 PM) I start keeping a document of when I bought my pu, price, which year, picture of the pu, etc. Easier reference in the future nice work! Well, i don't really bother much as I drank all my tea maybe share with friend but mostly drink |
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Nov 24 2010, 03:03 PM
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Wow... alot of info regarding tea here, what a good sharing..
i am not so much into chinese tea, i would prefer green tea and flower tea.. just bought 3 bottle of flower tea from the curve, loving them!!! some sharing about flower tea? |
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Nov 24 2010, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(ahfish7 @ Nov 24 2010, 03:03 PM) Wow... alot of info regarding tea here, what a good sharing.. Flower tea? as in those that will blossom out into a nice flower in the pot? I have seen it before but have never taste it before.i am not so much into chinese tea, i would prefer green tea and flower tea.. just bought 3 bottle of flower tea from the curve, loving them!!! some sharing about flower tea? What 3 bottle of flower tea that you bought? Got photo? |
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Nov 24 2010, 04:00 PM
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not exactly that kind, but would like to know where u seen them and roughly how much^^
i bought chrysanthemum, good for eye as facing pc for long time. osmanthus (good for lung if not mistaken) and lavender (for relaxing), i mix this two together, so for those who dun like lavender can try too, the smell is good... and taking flower tea will not affect ur sleeping too and also a pot with burner and 3 cups, spent less than 120, not bad...haha |
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Nov 24 2010, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(ahfish7 @ Nov 24 2010, 04:00 PM) not exactly that kind, but would like to know where u seen them and roughly how much^^ I saw it at Hojo (The Gardens). They have photos taken of their flower tea, but I have never seen it in real. Price, didn't notice.i bought chrysanthemum, good for eye as facing pc for long time. osmanthus (good for lung if not mistaken) and lavender (for relaxing), i mix this two together, so for those who dun like lavender can try too, the smell is good... and taking flower tea will not affect ur sleeping too and also a pot with burner and 3 cups, spent less than 120, not bad...haha Oh, I never tried osmanthus and lavender before. Sounds girlish... haha.. Will try to get it for my wife next time. The shop you mentioned in the curve is next to watson? |
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Nov 24 2010, 04:36 PM
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yaya...next to watson. girlish meh? haha
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Nov 25 2010, 12:27 AM
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I got my Lavender more than 1 year ago there and I still not finish it. Haha
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Nov 25 2010, 08:59 AM
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India's share in world tea exports declines 2% in 2005-09
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/1...12450961800.htm Kolkata, Nov. 23, 2010 Between 2005 and 2009, India's share in world tea exports declined from 15 per cent to 13 per cent, while China's share during the same period increased from 16 per cent to 19 per cent and Kenya's from 19 to 22 per cent, according to a study by the Indian Tea Association (ITA). In 2005, China pipped India to become the world's largest producer of tea. In 2009, China's export was around 300 million kg including 230 million kg of green tea as against India's 197 million kg, entirely black tea. In 2010, China's exports, according to official sources, will rise two per cent over 2009 figure. The major buyers of Indian tea are Iraq and CIS (21 per cent each), Iran and the United Arab Emirates (13 per cent), the UK and Ireland (11 per cent), Pakistan (7 per cent), the US and Canada (4 per cent), Afghanistan (4 per cent), Kenya (4 per cent), Germany and the Netherlands (3 per cent), Poland and Australia (2 per cent each) and others (7 per cent). China's major export markets are Morocco, the European Union, Japan and the US. China's exports of flower tea and fermented tea produced in South-West Yunan province are showing a downward trend, according to the country's first tea report launched by the China Social Science Academy Press. The ITA report identifies India's export bottlenecks as dominance of large producers (as much as 74 per cent) saddled with high cost structure owing to high fixed overheads and social cost, seasonality of the bulk of production (as much as 75 per cent), heavy dependence on weather with climatic variations resulting in inconsistent quality and location of tea estates being away from ports raising the transport and freight costs. India's export strategy, according to ITA, therefore should aim at increasing the ratio of value-added to bulk tea exports, increasing the unit price of both bulk and value-added tea and broad-basing the export markets instead of overdepending on a few countries. Other initiatives should include creation of infrastructure like tea parks, residue tasting laboratories, improving quality of tea, more incentives for larger production of orthodox tea including organic tea, individual scheme for exporters such as DEPB (duty entitlement pass book scheme), Vishesh Krishi and Gram Udyog Yojana, and brand-building and promotion. |
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Nov 25 2010, 09:02 AM
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Chinese tea exports to increase: report
http://business.globaltimes.cn/china-econo...-11/592930.html 18 November 17 2010 China's tea exports will increase 2 percent year on year this year after exports exceeded 300,000 tonnes for the first time last year, the first China tea industry report released Wednesday here said. The China Social Science Academy Press report said China's tea planting area has reached 1.86 million hectares, about half of the world total. Representatives of Peking University, the Development and Research Center of the Fujian Provincial Government and Wuyi Academy - all organizers of the industry investigation - attended a ceremony in Wuyi Mountain in east China's Fujian Province, where much of China's tea is grown, Wednesday to mark the report's release. The report said green tea is China's most favored tea, noting that exports of the tea totaled 230,000 tonnes last year. Exports of flower tea and Pu'er tea (a fermented tea produced in southwest China's Yunnan Province) have begun to fall, the report said. China exceeded India to become the world's largest tea producer in 2005. Output reached 1.3 million tonnes last year, accounting for 31 percent of the world total. China's major tea export markets are Morocco, European Union countries, Japan and America. |
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Nov 25 2010, 09:09 AM
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Pu'er may help diabetics: Research
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/inde.../c_13608763.htm 2010-11-16 10:12:49 BEIJING, Nov. 16 (Xinhuanet) -- It’s well known that dark, mellow Pu'er tea reduces blood fat, lowers cholesterol, aids in weight loss and assists digestion. Research shows that regularly drinking Pu'er, made from broad leaf tea in southwest China, has additional health benefits. Experts at the recent China Pu'er Tea Festival in Shanghai reported that to some extent, Pu'er can work as secondary therapy for certain disease conditions caused by diabetes. It also indicates that Pu'er may help prevent certain cancers and diseases of aging, thus helping to prolong life. To find out more about Pu'er's effectiveness, research was carried out in Pu'er city in Yunnan Province, where virtually all China's Pu'er tea is grown. Professor Sheng Jun, vice president of Yunnan Agriculture University, said at the festival in Shanghai that for one year 520 patients drank 1g "instant" Pu'er with 200ml water three times a day, half an hour before meals. Results showed drinking the tea helped relieve symptoms of more than 70 percent of patients with dyslipidemia, an abnormal amount of lipids (cholesterol and/or fat) in the blood, which usually leads to diabetes. As for patients with a positive albuminuria index, about 40 percent of them showed a negative index after drinking Pu'er tea for one year. Almost all of the patients with high blood fat and cholesterol had reduced symptoms. Surprisingly, according to Sheng, the patients showed increased high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (good cholesterol) and decreased low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (bad cholesterol) at the end of the research. And the changes started to occur after three months of drinking. "Most of the drugs we use to lower cholesterol today decrease both good and bad cholesterol at the same time," says Sheng. "It is quite interesting to find that Pu'er can work in the ideal way of increasing the good while decreasing the bad." He says Pu'er tea also effectively reduces some complications of diabetes, citing a recent experiment in mice by Professor Zhang Wensheng at the Resource Institute of Beijing Normal University. His research found that Pu'er helped diabetic mice lose weight and prevent damage to kidneys and brain function (learning and memory), both common side effects of diabetes. But Zhang reported that blood sugar is only found decreased in blood sugar two hours after dinner, while remaining the same in blood sugar on an empty stomach. Thus, drinking it after a meal appeared more effective than drinking on an empty stomach. Green tea is widely known as an antioxidant that helps prevent cancer. Pu'er tea has also been shown to possibly help prevent lung cancer and prolong the lives of lung cancer patients, according to Professor Luo Ying of the College of Life Science and Technology at the Kunming University of Science and Technology. She released results of her latest mouse experiment at an experts forum at the tea festival. Genetic mutation of P53 gene is widely accepted as a major trigger of lung cancer caused by smoking and passive smoking. Pu'er was found to restrict the genetic mutation and induce apoptosis (disintegration or cell death) of the cancer cells but do no harm to normal cells, according to Luo's experiment on both cells in mice that drank Pu'er tea. "Of course, quitting smoking is the most effective way to prevent cancer, yet most people cannot manage it," said Luo. "Drinking Pu'er tea may be a good intervention." Regular daily drinking of Pu'er was is enough to prevent genetic mutation in the mice, while the amount needed for cancer patients is not known, Luo said. Research is expected to continue and focus on other cancers as well. Sheng, from the Yunnan Agriculture University, advises drinking 3g instant Pu'er powder in warm water daily, three times a day, half an hour before meals. As for tea bricks and loose tea, he says 5g tea leaves could be cooked in 300ml water for five minutes each time. Fermented tea is better than raw tea as it is milder on the stomach lining. Like wine, Pu'er tea smells better over time. It is most beneficial with long-time storage for fermenting, at least 10 years, says Sheng. Modern technology can also ferment good tea in a far shorter time. Since Shanghai is damp, tea bricks should be stored in an airy place; it is placed in a box, the cover should be open. It should not be stored in the refrigerator. Since Pu'er tea is considered "warm" (yang energy) in traditional Chinese medicine, some people may suffer excessive internal "heat" with symptoms such as thirst and dry lips. Drinking more water helps relieve symptoms. A very few people, about 1-2 percent, may get headaches after drinking Pu'er, but symptoms usually disappear after a week of drinking, according to Sheng. (Source: Shanghai Daily) |
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Nov 25 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 25 2010, 09:09 AM) Pu'er may help diabetics: Research This is true. I know of a person whose diabetes are gone after he started drinking ripe puer tea. Now he is a tea seller in Ipoh.http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/inde.../c_13608763.htm (Source: Shanghai Daily) |
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Nov 25 2010, 11:21 PM
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Nov 26 2010, 07:48 AM
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The most expensive tea bag has 280 diamonds on it and costs about $12,000.
http://www.omg-facts.com/view/Facts/19577 Nov 20, 2010 11:00 PM  This was designed in celebration of UK tea company PG Tips’ 75th birthday in 2005. As a promotion, they had a contest, and participants could win the diamond-studded tea bag estimated at about £7,500 (roughly $12,000). According to spokesman Pete Harbour “As it's our 75th birthday, we wanted to do something special to remind people just how much they love the great British cup of tea." Runners-up received a limited edition teapot and a year’s supply. No word yet on how the diamond-studded tea tasted. |
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Nov 26 2010, 07:53 AM
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Expensive Da Hong Pao
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=1...22691978&ref=mf The most expensive tea in the world is the original Da Hong Pao (Big Red Robe) from Wuyi China. In 2002, 20 grams of Da Hong Pao sold for 180,000 RMB, which is approximately £16,000 ($23,000 US). In 2004, this same quantity sold for 166,000 RMB, or about £14,500 ($21,000 US). The original Da Hong Pao tea trees are over 350 years old. The tea has only been available for a public auction sale three times (1998, 2002 and 2004). Previously, it has only been offered to leaders of government, emperors, religious leaders, etc. In 1972, Mao Zedong gave President Richard Nixon 50 grams of this tea during his visit to China. As the story goes, Nixon was apparently insulted with such a "small" gift. That is, until someone pointed out that 50 grams represented 50% of all the Da Hong Pao harvested that year. Fortunately for tea connoiseurs, cuttings (i.e. genetic clones) of Da Hong Pao have been taken from the original plants and grown commercially. Due to this clonal propagation, "secondary" Da Hong Pao tea is readily available at an affordable price to everyday consumers. http://red-luxury.com/2010/09/29/chinas-la...-rare-tea-rage/ Looking for the world’s most expensive tea for your sipping pleasure…or perhaps to invest? The most expensive tea in the world is the original Da Hong Pao (known as Big Red Robe) from Wuyi, China. A form of Oolong tea, it is one of the most famous Chinese teas with an intriguing legend. As the legend has it — the mother of a Ming Dynasty emperor was cured of an illness by a certain tea, and the emperor sent great red robes to clothe the four bushes from which that tea came from. The tea was first produced on Wuyi Mountain in the north of China’s Fujian Province. Da Hong Pao’s attraction is its rarity. The authentic Da Hong Pao comes from cuttings of three of the original Da Hong Pao Tea trees that are still living on Wuyi Mountain and are believed to date back to the Song Dynasty (960-1279). Some of the tea harvested go directly to the President of China while the rest are sold at auction. In 2002, 20 grams (about 2/3 of an ounce) of Da Hong Pao sold for 180,000 RMB or about US$23,000 at the time. The tea has only been available for public auction three times in 1998, 2002 and 2004. Previously, it has only been offered to leaders of government, emperors, and religious leaders. According to some reports, Mao Zedong gave President Richard Nixon 50 grams of Da Hong Pao during his visit to China in 1972. As the story goes, Nixon was apparently insulted with such a “small” gift. That is, until someone pointed out that 50 grams represented 50% of all the Da Hong Pao harvested that year. Recently CCTV, the Chinese state television, reported that Da Hong Pao is becoming a hot commodity in China. Since last year, “prices of certain types of Da Hong Pao have increased tenfold. According to one expert interviewed by CCTV, the wholesale price for mid-range varieties of the tea has risen from between 200 and 400 yuan to around 4,000 yuan per kilogram, with retail prices reaching 20,000 yuan or more. CCTV found one retail shop in the Fujian city of Xiamen that claimed to be selling one variety for 200,000 yuan, or roughly $30,000, per kilogram.” Like anything rare…fine wine, art, and cars…wealthy connoisseurs will pay top money, as will investors. Looking to diversify from the uncertain real estate and stock markets, eager Chinese investors have found their latest investment rage in this rare tea. The real Da Hong Pao is not sold in regular market. Fortunately for tea lovers, you can find grades of Da Hong Pao for your sipping pleasure. The quality of the leaves is graded depending on how close to the original trees those trees are located with the best grades commanding top prices. |
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Nov 27 2010, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(ahfish7 @ Nov 24 2010, 04:00 PM) not exactly that kind, but would like to know where u seen them and roughly how much^^ thhe osmanthus can be used to make desserts too?how does it taste like?i bought chrysanthemum, good for eye as facing pc for long time. osmanthus (good for lung if not mistaken) and lavender (for relaxing), i mix this two together, so for those who dun like lavender can try too, the smell is good... and taking flower tea will not affect ur sleeping too and also a pot with burner and 3 cups, spent less than 120, not bad...haha |
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Nov 27 2010, 05:19 PM
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I prefer chinese tea. u can try '' long jin cha'' or ''tien guan ying''
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Nov 28 2010, 06:22 AM
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Went to Mines Exhibition for the Sixth SEA Pu-Er Trade Fair yesterday and bought myself 1 carton (10pcs) + 2 pcs 2010 Lincang raw Pu-er (临沧永德大雪山原生茶) and also 2pcs of 2003 Yaole raw Pu-Er (攸乐古茶)
Here about Linchang raw pu-er article (in chinese) - http://www.lctea.gov.cn/plus/view.php?aid=526 I have had chance to test Lincang raw Pu-er for an hour. The 2010 Lincang raw Pu-er's taste is not as good as 2008 Yihu raw Pu-er when you first taste it, but the after taste (韵味) is really good (甘甜) This post has been edited by auronthas: Nov 28 2010, 06:27 AM |
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Nov 28 2010, 08:52 AM
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Slightly old news but I couldn't find it being posted... So here you go
Very hot tea may cause throat cancer http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/200.../27/2527642.htm 27 March 2009 Drinking hot tea may cause throat cancer, say Iranian researchers, suggesting people let their steaming drink cool before consuming them. Previous studies have linked tobacco and alcohol with cancer of the oesophagus, and the research published in the British Medical Journal suggests that scalding beverages may also pave the way for such tumours. Drinking very hot tea at a temperature of greater than 70 degrees Celsius was associated with an eight-fold increased risk of throat cancer compared to sipping warm or lukewarm tea at less than 65 degrees, the researchers write. Timing Professor Reza Malekzadeh of Tehran University of Medical Sciences and colleagues studied the tea-drinking habits of 300 people with oesophageal cancer and another 571 healthy men and women from the same area in Golestan Province in northern Iran. That region has one of the highest rates of throat cancer in the world, but smoking rates and alcohol consumption are low, say the researchers. Nearly all the volunteers drank black tea regularly, consuming on average more than a litre each day. People who regularly drank tea less than two minutes after pouring were five times more likely to develop the cancer compared to those who waited four or more minutes, the researchers say. British studies have reported people prefer their tea at an average temperature of 56 degrees to 60 degrees, they note. It is not clear how hot tea might cause cancer, but one idea is that repeated thermal injury to the lining of the throat somehow initiates it, say the researchers. Cancers of the oesophagus kill more than 500,000 people worldwide each year, with the bulk of the disease occurring in discrete populations in Asia, Africa, and South America. The tumours are especially deadly, with five-year survival rates of 12 to 31%. Earlier this week, US and Japanese researchers reported that about a third of East Asians - Chinese, Japanese and Koreans - have an enzyme deficiency that puts them at higher risk of developing oesophageal cancer when they drink alcohol. Steaming hot tea linked to cancer http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7965380.stm 27 March 2009 Drinking steaming hot tea has been linked with an increased risk of oesophageal (food tube) cancer, Iranian scientists have found. The British Medical Journal study found that drinking black tea at temperatures of 70C or higher increased the risk. Experts said the finding could explain the increased oesophageal cancer risk in some non-Western populations. Adding milk, as most tea drinkers in Western countries do, cools the drink enough to eliminate the risk. The oesophagus is the muscular tube that carries food from the throat to the stomach. Oesophagus cancers kill more than 500,000 people worldwide each year and oesophageal squamous cell carcinoma (OSCC) is the most common type. Tobacco and alcohol are the main factors linked to the development of oesophageal cancers in Europe and America. But it has not been clear why other populations around the world have high rates of the disease although there has been a theory that regularly drinking very hot drinks damages the lining of the gullet. A litre a day Golestan Province in northern Iran has one of the highest rates of OSCC in the world, but rates of smoking and alcohol consumption are low and women are as likely to have a diagnosis as men. Tea drinking, however, is widespread. The University of Tehran researchers studied tea drinking habits among 300 people diagnosed with OSCC and compared them with a group of 570 people from the same area. Nearly all participants drank black tea regularly, on average drinking over a litre a day. Compared with drinking warm or lukewarm tea (65C or less), drinking hot tea (65-69C) was associated with twice the risk of oesophageal cancer, and drinking very hot tea (70C or more) was associated with an eight-fold increased risk. The speed with which people drank their tea was also important. Drinking a cup of tea in under two minutes straight after it was poured was associated with a five-fold higher risk of cancer compared with drinking tea four or more minutes after being poured. There was no association between the amount of tea consumed and risk of cancer. Because the researchers had relied on study participants to say how hot their tea was, they then went on to measure the temperature of tea drunk by nearly 50,000 residents of the same area. This ranged from under 60C to more than 70C, and reported tea drinking temperature and actual temperature was found to be similar. Tea lovers Writing in the BMJ, the researchers led by Professor Reza Malekzadeh, said: "Our results showed a noticeable increase in risk of oesophageal squamous cell carcinoma associated with drinking hot tea. "A large proportion of Golestan inhabitants drink hot tea, so this habit may account for a substantial proportion of the cases of oesophageal cancer in this population." Previous studies from the UK have reported people prefer their tea to be about 56-60C - cool enough not to be risky. In a BMJ editorial, David Whiteman from the Queensland Institute of Medical Research in Australia said: "The mechanism through which heat promotes the development of tumours warrants further exploration and might be given renewed impetus on the basis of these findings." Dr Whiteman advised tea-drinkers to simply wait a few minutes for their brew to cool from "scalding" to "tolerable". Oliver Childs, a spokesman for Cancer Research UK, said: "Tea drinking is part of many cultures, and these results certainly don't point to tea itself being the problem. "But they do provide more evidence that a regular habit of eating and drinking very hot foods and drinks could increase your risk of developing cancer of the oesophagus." He added: "People in this region of northern Iran often drink very hot tea as part of their daily routine. We're a nation of tea lovers in the UK, but we don't tend to drink tea at such high temperatures and we usually add milk, which cools it down." |
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Nov 28 2010, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Nov 9 2010, 09:35 PM) Got myself some puerh boxes and rearranged my cabinet. In the picture are my Unopened stocks. Opened stocks are kept separately in the living room and some in office. Correct if I am wrong, i.e. Pu-er (especially raw one) should be stored in an open, well ventilated (odorless environment), no direct sunlight. Also if you store them in boxes, you should remove them from box so that it can speed up the fermentation (especially the raw one). Though my cabinet has got raw and ripe, but it is separated in the shelf and there is no smell in it. So raw and ripe shouldn’t influence each other. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « I stored mine in open bookshelves, just stacked them according to their types, years, it's good to reshuffle quarterly (every 4 months) within the stacks. It's time to enjoy my regular afternoon tea during weekend, i.e. Yihu raw 2008, cheers ! This post has been edited by auronthas: Nov 28 2010, 04:56 PM |
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Nov 28 2010, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Nov 28 2010, 04:55 PM) Correct if I am wrong, i.e. Pu-er (especially raw one) should be stored in an open, well ventilated (odorless environment), no direct sunlight. Also if you store them in boxes, you should remove them from box so that it can speed up the fermentation (especially the raw one). Yeah, my storage method may not be the best. It may slow down the aging process. It is temporary storage method till my new house is ready next year.I stored mine in open bookshelves, just stacked them according to their types, years, it's good to reshuffle quarterly (every 4 months) within the stacks. It's time to enjoy my regular afternoon tea during weekend, i.e. Yihu raw 2008, cheers ! Anyway, I think puerh stored in boxed is still ok as I don't think people that buys in big boxes will take em out air it right? |
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Nov 28 2010, 08:25 PM
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Nov 28 2010, 09:09 PM
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Dayi - Guangzhou 2010 Asian Spirit - 7+2
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Nov 29 2010, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Nov 28 2010, 04:55 PM) Correct if I am wrong, i.e. Pu-er (especially raw one) should be stored in an open, well ventilated (odorless environment), no direct sunlight. Also if you store them in boxes, you should remove them from box so that it can speed up the fermentation (especially the raw one). Hi there. From what I've learned, it's not good to expose the tea with too much air. While it may age faster, this type of aging is not what we desire. The tea will lose its flavor more quickly as oxidation is ongoing instead of fermentation.I stored mine in open bookshelves, just stacked them according to their types, years, it's good to reshuffle quarterly (every 4 months) within the stacks. It's time to enjoy my regular afternoon tea during weekend, i.e. Yihu raw 2008, cheers ! For me I just store my teas in the cardbox that came along when I bought them and open the box once every few weeks to "swap" out the air inside. |
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Nov 29 2010, 11:31 PM
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2010 - Dayi Gao Shan Yun Xiang Shu (High Mountain) - Ripe
 *Picture not mine Took some sample of this. It is nice to drink but seems like any other ripe. No "wu dui" fermentation taste. Nothing memorable. Now the leaves...  ...not fully fermented eh? |
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Nov 30 2010, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:47 AM) Hi there. From what I've learned, it's not good to expose the tea with too much air. While it may age faster, this type of aging is not what we desire. The tea will lose its flavor more quickly as oxidation is ongoing instead of fermentation. Usually, I do not open the box if the tea is for aging. I just place it in a room away from sunlight. Those bricks or toucha I place it lowest on the rack to 'absorb' the earth qi and to speed up the aging since fermentation is hard due to its tight compression. I break up those that I want to drink and place it in a canister. I will bring it to along with me whenever go out makan outside and ask the waiter to brew them.For me I just store my teas in the cardbox that came along when I bought them and open the box once every few weeks to "swap" out the air inside. |
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Nov 30 2010, 12:24 AM
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2010 - Dayi 70th Anniversary Ripe
 *Picture not mine There is 2 version of this. Ripe and Raw. I didn't have the chance to taste the Raw, but managed to get some Ripe samples. It is quite unique as in it has some additional taste in it compared to the usual ripe. I cannot tell what kind of taste, and not sure whether that kind of taste is good or not but it sure is quite unique. Tasted for the 3rd time, but the feeling of ??? is there every time... hmmm |
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Nov 30 2010, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Nov 29 2010, 11:47 AM) Hi there. From what I've learned, it's not good to expose the tea with too much air. While it may age faster, this type of aging is not what we desire. The tea will lose its flavor more quickly as oxidation is ongoing instead of fermentation. For me I just store my teas in the cardbox that came along when I bought them and open the box once every few weeks to "swap" out the air inside. QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 30 2010, 12:02 AM) Usually, I do not open the box if the tea is for aging. I just place it in a room away from sunlight. Those bricks or toucha I place it lowest on the rack to 'absorb' the earth qi and to speed up the aging since fermentation is hard due to its tight compression. I break up those that I want to drink and place it in a canister. I will bring it to along with me whenever go out makan outside and ask the waiter to brew them. Thanks for sharing your method of storing Pu-Er. Previously I stored my Pu-Er at ground floor (next to staircase) in paperback until I read some articles and advise from teashop (during my recent visit to Tea exhibition) saying the Pu-Er should be stored in open, well ventilated, away from direct sunlight best to store at 1st floor to prevent moisture at ground floor (my house is quite cooling at ground floor even though during hot day). The teacakes are still wrapped in original paper. For those opened teacake, I store them in a clay (ZhiSha) pot as most of you do There are many ways of storing depends on your method and room conditions; most crucial is stay away from wet area, odor area, hazardous area. Cheers. |
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Nov 30 2010, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(auronthas @ Nov 30 2010, 06:16 PM) Thanks for sharing your method of storing Pu-Er. Some of the tea that are stored for a couple of years in China will have the 'wet' smell. I stored this type at the 1st floor. Usually the smell will be gone in 6 months.Previously I stored my Pu-Er at ground floor (next to staircase) in paperback until I read some articles and advise from teashop (during my recent visit to Tea exhibition) saying the Pu-Er should be stored in open, well ventilated, away from direct sunlight best to store at 1st floor to prevent moisture at ground floor (my house is quite cooling at ground floor even though during hot day). The teacakes are still wrapped in original paper. For those opened teacake, I store them in a clay (ZhiSha) pot as most of you do There are many ways of storing depends on your method and room conditions; most crucial is stay away from wet area, odor area, hazardous area. Cheers. |
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Nov 30 2010, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Nov 30 2010, 07:47 PM) Some of the tea that are stored for a couple of years in China will have the 'wet' smell. I stored this type at the 1st floor. Usually the smell will be gone in 6 months. It depends on which part of China though. If it's stored in guangdong, where its humidity is higher, the tea stored there, if not stored properly, will have that "wet" flavor, as the weather there is close to wet storage by default. Whereas in yunnan, the tea stored there normally doesn't have this problem, but they experience slower aging because of its dry weather. Unfortunately, most merchants in Malaysia get their stock from guangdong because of the cost. |
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Gargling green tea can fight flu
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...o=feeds-newsxml By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 12:14 AM on 30th November 2010 Gargle green tea to fight off flu bugs Could gargling with green tea prevent flu? It contains compounds called catechins, which have been shown, in lab research, to prevent the infection. One small Japanese study at the University of Shizuoka showed that nursing home residents who gargled with green tea three times a day for three months were less likely to get flu than those who did not. Larger clinical trials are now under way, involving more than 600 teenagers. Young people were chosen because flu spreads quickly and easily among students. Researchers have yet to discover exactly how catechins work, but it is believed they have a general anti-viral effect. Gargling is thought to be a more effective way to tackle viruses than drinking, because this way the bugs are exposed to the liquid for longer. |
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How going for a swim (or drinking herbal tea) could ruin your smile
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...ruin-smile.html Last updated at 1:27 AM on 30th November 2010 So you brush your teeth after every meal, choose herbal tea over fizzy drinks, and snack on fruit not sweets. It might sound like the ideal formula for perfect teeth, but, actually, it’s not. In fact, any one of those habits could increase your risk of dental erosion or decay. Here, we reveal some of the other surprising things that could ruin your smile: <snip> HERBAL TEA Fruit-flavoured tea can be three times more damaging than orange juice, a study carried out by the University of Bristol Dental School found. Many fruit teas are acidic and eat away at tooth enamel, with lemon and blackcurrant among the most damaging. REDUCE THE RISK: Stick to black or green tea. Compounds in black tea can attack the bacteria that form plaque and prevent the plaque from sticking to teeth, U.S. researchers found. More recently, a study at the University of Tohoku in Japan found that drinking one or more cups of green tea a day reduces the risk of cavities. It is thought antioxidants, called catechins, in the tea stop bacteria in the mouth from producing acid. </snip> |
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Dec 1 2010, 02:10 PM
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The fizzy drink that claims to burn more than 200 calories in three hours
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-...o=feeds-newsxml Last updated at 10:15 AM on 30th November 2010 It sounds like a slimmer’s dream – a fizzy drink that actually makes you thinner. Cranberry-flavoured Aspire is said to burn off 209 calories within three hours of drinking it. Scientists at Leeds Metropolitan University found that when caffeine and green tea were combined with amino acid and ginger, there was a ‘thermogenic effect’, whereby the body generates more heat to digest food and temporarily stimulates metabolism. However the drink, available from the health retailer Holland & Barrett at £1.59 for a 250ml can, was tested on only 20 subjects – 11 men and nine women. There are just 12.5 calories per can. Aspire said that while there are no known side-effects, it was not advisable for those sensitive to caffeine. The drink has been launched by Fahrenheit 60, a company based in Milton Keynes. A spokesman said: ‘This is a UK first – a fully-researched and proven calorie-burning soft drink for the mass market. ‘Thermogenic products have been used by athletes for many years. ‘Yet what we’ve managed to create with Aspire is to bring those calorie burning properties to many more people in a unique and convenient drink with proven functional benefits. ‘It’s an exciting place to be, and could spark more companies to innovate and offer customers new food and drink products which are suited for their lifestyles.’ Dr John O’Hara, who led the research study, said: ‘The finished case study data from 20 participants suggests that Aspire increases energy expenditure on average of 1.16 calories per minute. Over a three hour period Aspire expends an average of 209 calories.’ The £13,500 research project was conducted over three months. The drink is available from health retailer Holland & Barrett, Selfridges and health supplement chain GNC. A spokeswoman said: ‘Functional food is growing fast as customers look for new products which are targeted to their individual lifestyles. ‘Aspire offers proven benefits and could prompt more brands to research new ranges which combine active ingredients for extra functionality.’ In 2006, Coca-Cola and nestle developed a green-tea drink that claimed to burn calories. Researchers have found that green tea stimulates the brown calorie-burning adipose tissue. Coca-Cola claimed that drinking three cans of Enviga could help burn 60 to 100 calories. The drink was never launched in the UK. |
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Colourful Dayi - 8852 (2004)
 *Picture not mine Colour of tea is quite right being 2004. Drinking this leaves my mouth dry but full of the tea taste. Though dry, my saliva keeps flowing out. Touch bitter cum sweet. 2nd Brew  8th Brew  Leaves  |
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Dec 2 2010, 10:48 PM
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My cheapo cabinet collapse yesterday night due to overload and nearly broke my teawares..  So, got this... look at all the extra space I have to fill up |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Dec 2 2010, 10:48 PM) So, got this... look at all the extra space I have to fill up |
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Dec 4 2010, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Dec 4 2010, 12:42 AM) I can assured you will not have extra space soon. Collecting tea is never ending especially when you can find quality tea at reasonable price. Yalo, but I think the extra space should last me 1 year++ as I roughly counted, can fit another 20 new toongs. Young pu are priced ok, but for aged pu not too reasonable / cannot afford. |
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Dec 9 2010, 04:37 PM
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last time my bro got a tin of "tie guan yin" with fruity scent from his fren
dunno where she bought...it was super nice i try the mint tea with honey in a middle east shop...super nice lot's of fresh mint leaves in the tiny pot of tea with hint of honey |
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Dec 10 2010, 08:21 AM
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Dec 10 2010, 02:28 PM
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Dec 11 2010, 09:38 PM
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Di Cao Qing - Shi Piao
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Dec 16 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Dec 2 2010, 10:48 PM) My cheapo cabinet collapse yesterday night due to overload and nearly broke my teawares.. So, got this... look at all the extra space I have to fill up As fo me, I just prefer tea (ripe puerh) over plain water. AUHCKW - maybe next time if you buy ripe puerh, count me in .Notice that you had very awesome puerh collection, envy you. I had some almost identical with yours such as Menghai Royal Court,etc,etc. Any chance of you sellling one or two pieces of the Menghai Dragonpole. Cheers Edmund |
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Dec 16 2010, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(edksdan @ Dec 16 2010, 11:36 AM) Just found out that there is so many SIFU here. Very nice of you all to share your experience. Dragon Pole.. still got plenty in JDX (kepong).. year 2009 punya... they sell in loose form. So you can buy there As fo me, I just prefer tea (ripe puerh) over plain water. AUHCKW - maybe next time if you buy ripe puerh, count me in .Notice that you had very awesome puerh collection, envy you. I had some almost identical with yours such as Menghai Royal Court,etc,etc. Any chance of you sellling one or two pieces of the Menghai Dragonpole. Cheers Edmund Also Dragon Pole 2010 is out also.. printed on Oct. 2010. Not yet available in our local stores... If you are JDX, go try the ripe Dayi 70th anniversary also. The pronunciation is roughly 'huang ching shui yeh'. It is unique compared to the usual dayi ripe. |
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Dec 16 2010, 04:31 PM
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JDX a bit pricey. I usually buy only 1 or 2 pieces of different "formula" for own consumption. This had been my practiced for the past 6-7 years.
So now, I usually enjoy 6-7 years old tea. Dayi 70th anniversary lagi expensive Myself an old man can only afford moderate nice tea This post has been edited by edksdan: Dec 16 2010, 04:33 PM |
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Dec 16 2010, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(edksdan @ Dec 16 2010, 04:31 PM) JDX a bit pricey. I usually buy only 1 or 2 pieces of different "formula" for own consumption. This had been my practiced for the past 6-7 years. Wah.. started so long ago... good la... got old tea... mine mostly new... too old tea cannot tahan the priceSo now, I usually enjoy 6-7 years old tea. Dayi 70th anniversary lagi expensive Myself an old man can only afford moderate nice tea Yeah, JDX is pricy if you don't ask for discount. I always cut cut cut them... after cut still expensive but I don't know where else got that many variety of Dayi. I know Tea-li carries some, but not many. |
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Dec 17 2010, 01:00 AM
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Year end, so here is my Inventory list for my Unopened Puerh. I have excluded my Unopened Greens and Oolong cause those are meant to be opened in the next few weeks or months. The ones below are meant to be kept Unopened for a while... For most of the below, I have got samples or extra piece kept aside.
My humble little collection:-  |
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Dec 17 2010, 09:54 AM
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Wow, you are sure a collector/investor. You will be assure of a handsome return in 5-6 years times. Because based on that quantity that you have, tak boleh habis minum wan.
Now waiting for 2011 production unless earlier production are cheap, and I mean dirt-cheap cause for own consumption. |
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Dec 17 2010, 10:30 AM
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I am very sure I am not investor in pu, cause those real investors buy in boxes of toongs. I only buy enough for myself and maybe to pass down some to my kids
or maybe in the future can exchange with friends having other pu.You see, based on the stats, I have enough for 30 years consumption... mana cukup... i hope I can live healthy for another 50 to 60 years if god permits By then I wan to make sure I have enough decent old pu to enjoy with my old friends... haha... One thing if you noticed, pu prices are going up. Getting more and more costly. Eg Dayi 7542 batch 1 - 2010 is same price as 2009. And those single estates pu, are lagi expensive ranging RM80 to RM600 per beeng. In years to come where more and more people are into tea, then lagi expensive... Lucky not all people in china drinks pu now. Some of them drink other kinds of tea. But more and more china people are knowing the health and $$$ value in pu... so have to stock up some when I can still afford. |
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Dec 17 2010, 01:50 PM
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You mean, you are going to STOP buying. If that is so, then not enough-lah. But if you were to continue buying every years, that a total different story.
From experience, I just buy 1 or 2 pieces of different formula every year (total of between 10 - 16 cakes/year) . Still got left-over leh, and I drink puerh like drinking water. You buy by BOXES sure got extra available for SALE IN FUTURE, if your buying pattern is maintain ie every year also buy a bit of this and that. Added on December 17, 2010, 2:00 pmauhckw - you are the REAL INVESTOR from the way you spoke. Those buying in Toongs are SPECULATORS, who know NUTS about Puerh. Their main aim is to profit from price appreaciation and not the quality and benefits of Puerh. That why after I read this thread, I call you all SIFU. This post has been edited by edksdan: Dec 17 2010, 02:00 PM |
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Dec 17 2010, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Dec 17 2010, 01:00 AM) Year end, so here is my Inventory list for my Unopened Puerh. I have excluded my Unopened Greens and Oolong cause those are meant to be opened in the next few weeks or months. The ones below are meant to be kept Unopened for a while... For most of the below, I have got samples or extra piece kept aside. I can see most of your collection are fairly new puerh. I think it is high time you stock up those in year 2004-5 when they are still affordable. In another 2 years, those tea going to double in price. |
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Dec 19 2010, 07:40 PM
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You are right... I probably should select a few slightly aged pu... so here is most likely my last purchase of the year.
Been eyeing on the Chai Dayi for awhile... It is one of the quite 'in' puerh recently... 2001 - Menghai Yiwu Zheng Shan - 357g x2  2003 - Menghai 7212 - 357g x2  2004 - Menghai Chai Dayi 8852 - 400g x7  |
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Dec 20 2010, 12:16 AM
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Just had a 'questionable' premium grade spring 2006 Lao Ban Zhang
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Dec 21 2010, 12:18 AM
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Today my good friend came over to my place and we drank Aged liu bao, 2007 Old tree raw puer, 2005 Blue Dayi 8582, slightly aged Dahongpau and Aged Bug Poop Tea. After the session went to eat BKT
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Dec 21 2010, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Dec 21 2010, 12:18 AM) Today my good friend came over to my place and we drank Aged liu bao, 2007 Old tree raw puer, 2005 Blue Dayi 8582, slightly aged Dahongpau and Aged Bug Poop Tea. After the session went to eat BKT Yum yum... Can I be your good friend too |
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Dec 21 2010, 09:12 PM
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Oh yeah! Tea is meant to be drink with friends
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Dec 22 2010, 08:16 PM
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1998 Xia Guan 250g Ripe Tuo - France Version (Export) x 6
 Seller said this is from the 90s, but he wasn't sure which year exactly. Based on the info/serial on the pack, I found reference on the net that this maybe 1998 or 1996. I drank this on 2 different occasion. And both times, gave me the very warm feeling... so decided to buy... This post has been edited by auhckw: Dec 22 2010, 08:44 PM |
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Dec 23 2010, 06:07 PM
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2010 Xia Guan 250g Ripe Tuo - FT Version x 2
 Compared to the 1998 (1 post before). Both are so called from the same recipe... but with 12 years difference. Price difference by 1000% (1 thousand percent)... |
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Dec 23 2010, 06:16 PM
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oh my i miss this tea
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Dec 29 2010, 06:50 PM
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2008 (801) - Dayi 0622 - 400g - 9
 Initially I wanted to buy 0622 (601) - 660g, but the price is too expensive now. List price for it here is about RM200 per beeng. And this 801 - 400g per toong is about RM171. 1 piece vs 1 toong price. Is the taste big different? So happen the shop I went have both of them and brewed it. Taste wise is somehow quite similar. I was told that 0622 (601) - 660g when it is new, the price is RM70+, and only 4 years.. the price went up to RM200. Our FD rate in the country is about 4%pa... this is crazy profit for tea. Conclusion, I decided to buy the 801 instead... |
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Dec 29 2010, 06:55 PM
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As expected... This year they have Tiger Zodiac pu... and next year they have Rabbit Zodiac pu
  Hope it will reach here... this is going to be another buy for the sake of buying pu for collection... I think it is worth collecting. If every year Dayi release a Zodiac, in 12 years time it will be a complete set... then time to let go some in Ebay for a complete set power price... 12 years worth of history eh |
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Dec 30 2010, 04:29 PM
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2010 (001) - Dayi Jia Ji Tuo 100g - 12 x 5 + 1 free = 61 Tuo
  Value over Money... This is quite good. |
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Jan 2 2011, 07:26 PM
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Liu An Qi He Chun (2006) - 100g tin - Imported by Tacha x 9
  I have no experience with Liu An at all and today was my first experience with it. In year 2006, the tea shop has made a special order of this. Whole batch is 2 ton of spring high grade Liu An. Upon arrival, a lot of people has bought it and currently they only left a bit. They no longer sell in big basket which consist of 60 small basket @ 500g. No longer selling in the small basket either. The shop was saying that many people are coming back to buy this. I was just listening (thinking it may be sales pitch), but it really seems true. When I was there, 2 separate customer came in looking to buy more. 2 of them have bought few big basket before and already running low of stock. I wanted to buy a small basket, but they said they only sell in 100g tin now cause limited quantity left. They said they have been trying to get the same quality for the past few years, but couldn't get the same grade... therefor it became a controlled item in their shop already. This post has been edited by auhckw: Jan 2 2011, 08:40 PM |
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Jan 2 2011, 09:13 PM
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Liu Ann is quite a strange tea for me initially when I first tried and I have a dislike for it. However, I realised that there are many varieties of it in the market and I managed to taste some great one. I managed to taste the 40s ShunYiSun batch and it is really great but the price is RM1xxxxx per basket. So now wait for good fellow to brew them and hope they will invite me
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Jan 2 2011, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 2 2011, 09:13 PM) Liu Ann is quite a strange tea for me initially when I first tried and I have a dislike for it. However, I realised that there are many varieties of it in the market and I managed to taste some great one. I managed to taste the 40s ShunYiSun batch and it is really great but the price is RM1xxxxx per basket. So now wait for good fellow to brew them and hope they will invite me Fuyoh the price... |
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Jan 2 2011, 10:59 PM
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I have not drank any Liu An before and today was the first. Initially I was thinking it may taste like Liu Bao, but it is not at all.
 5g:120ml  1st Brew - 15 sec  8th Brew - 1 min  According to the tea seller, this is spring harvest of high grade quality. Leaves are small. This Liu An has gone through charcoal roasted process. My body felt warm and I sweat when drinking this. I couldn't compare this with others cause I have not tried other Liu An before, but this coming from 2006 is quite easy to drink. No bitterness. Sweet aftertaste. Quite good aroma. I heard people only drink aged Liu An, but the tea seller said only high grade Liu An is easy to drink now. How true, I don't know. Frankly I felt this is like Da Hong Pao. I'm quite bad in Oolong always get confused by it I bought because of the crowd buying it... will keep these for aging and sample in between. |
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Jan 2 2011, 11:37 PM
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Nowadays the Liu Ann is not the authentic process of the old. I think the method is lost. I did enquired from a learned tea scholar and he mentioned that in the old days the bamboo leaves around the basket are more expensive than the tea itself. I think the trees are now protected. The famous SYS company that produced it also closed its business in the 40s and nowadays most new tea company uses the same logo when producing it since it is not copyrighted.
In the old days, this tea is favour by the opium smoker and they drink this tea to clear their throat after smoking. The original way to brew is to add some bamboo leaves to the tea leaves itself. |
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Jan 3 2011, 12:07 AM
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Bamboo more expensive than tea? Wow...
Speaking of this reminds me of someone told me someone has bought the paper wrapping for the Hon Yin Puerh for RM3000. Reason, the person's Hong Yin wrapping is quite damaged, so he bought other people's wrapping... to increase his Hon Yin's value. Dunia ini macam macam ada... Added on January 3, 2011, 12:09 amI have decided to fast on tea for the next 5 days... had non stop tea since May 10, I think my stomach needs a rest... This post has been edited by auhckw: Jan 3 2011, 12:09 AM |
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Jan 3 2011, 09:34 AM
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I sometimes also buy old tea just for its packaging if it is within my budget. Not planning to open it for drinking but rather for display since it is now becomes 'antique'.
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Jan 3 2011, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 09:34 AM) I sometimes also buy old tea just for its packaging if it is within my budget. Not planning to open it for drinking but rather for display since it is now becomes 'antique'. What is the oldest branded tea that you have? |
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Jan 3 2011, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 10:43 AM) What is the oldest branded tea that you have? I got no idea of the age but at least in the 70s. I got a tiekuanyin still unopened and in its original clear plastic carrying box. I believe this type of packing is for gift giving. There are also few boxes of LiuBao around. Oldest tea I got is more than 100 years. Only a small amount. Turns almost like dust. A gift from my dad tea friend in China. I have not tried them yet. The aroma is as good as tasting it |
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Jan 3 2011, 01:02 PM
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Guys, i just started drinking tea.
I bought some raw pur eh (isit called raw?), but hor, why sometimes when brew it will have some hm...like powder taste de? like not nice at all? i normally brew it for around 15 sec for the 1st 2 to 3 brew |
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Jan 3 2011, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 11:56 AM) I got no idea of the age but at least in the 70s. I got a tiekuanyin still unopened and in its original clear plastic carrying box. I believe this type of packing is for gift giving. There are also few boxes of LiuBao around. 100 years old tea can still drink? Hehe.. must be dust soon if you dont vacuum seal it...Oldest tea I got is more than 100 years. Only a small amount. Turns almost like dust. A gift from my dad tea friend in China. I have not tried them yet. The aroma is as good as tasting it |
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Jan 3 2011, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 3 2011, 01:02 PM) Guys, i just started drinking tea. For puerh a good start, you can read hereI bought some raw pur eh (isit called raw?), but hor, why sometimes when brew it will have some hm...like powder taste de? like not nice at all? i normally brew it for around 15 sec for the 1st 2 to 3 brew http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu-erh_tea Puerh (Raw or Ripe) is an acquired taste to some people. Acquired means you have to get use to the taste after some time. The issue about puerh is there are fakes out there, so you have to be careful if it taste out of the usual. What puerh did you buy? Any photos? |
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 01:58 PM) For puerh a good start, you can read here How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu-erh_tea Puerh (Raw or Ripe) is an acquired taste to some people. Acquired means you have to get use to the taste after some time. The issue about puerh is there are fakes out there, so you have to be careful if it taste out of the usual. What puerh did you buy? Any photos? |
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Jan 3 2011, 02:09 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 01:55 PM) 100 years old tea can still drink? Hehe.. must be dust soon if you dont vacuum seal it... Vacuum sealed? No way. It is in a canister. I can open it anytime and smell the aroma. Added on January 3, 2011, 2:21 pm QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2011, 02:07 PM) How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers? There are few definition of fake tea here. One is that the producer used other tea leaves instead from the supposed tea plantation area. For example, using tiekuanyin tea leaves and sell as Puer tea. Second is imitation of brand. Products from small inferior company uses famous tea trademark brand and sells them at premium price. Check for dye is easy. After brewing, use a white tissue and dip a bit on tea. The colour should be very light on natural tea. This post has been edited by cuebiz: Jan 3 2011, 02:21 PM |
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Jan 3 2011, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 3 2011, 02:07 PM) How can newbie know if the tea they are buying fake or not? Or worse they add foreign material like dye or heavy metal or fillers? Buying tea is very important you find a trusted seller. But that doesn't mean that the seller can buy the wrong tea to sell either. Some tea sellers knows very little about their tea, some knows a lot. So picking the right source to buy your tea is very important.If you drink tea that makes your stomach upset, or itchiness in your throat or feeling of needle pricking your tongue... then something may not be right.. and you should stop. So it all comes to learning and experiencing it which is something you will have to go through progressively. Initially I thought Tea was easy, but there is so many to learn about it. So many kinds of tea and teawares to play with. Its a never end hobby. Still learning... A lot of money can be spent on this hobby. My personal opinion, For puerh, to start off you can try branded Menghai/Dayi of newer version, then move downwards for older versions. Try standard recipe first, then move out. After you gain more experience, you can branch out to other brands and non branded puerh. There are a few quite known/reliable Menghai/Dayi seller in Kepong where experienced people buy in bulk. So following experience people 'should' be less mistake. There is also a trend going on that people is moving towards buying single estate very old wild arbor trees to make puerh. Those are usually of more premium price even for new tea. Frankly, I liked them more than the Menghai/Dayi. More tasty, but an ouch to the pocket. The price can range from RM80 to RM600 per beeng for a current year tea. |
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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jan 3 2011, 02:09 PM) Vacuum sealed? No way. It is in a canister. I can open it anytime and smell the aroma. If I have a 100 year old pu, I would most probably seal it up with a transparent wrapper and frame it at the wall... haha... I was at a teashop, they have 1 100 year old pu and it cost RM100,000. Madness.Added on January 3, 2011, 2:21 pm There are few definition of fake tea here. One is that the producer used other tea leaves instead from the supposed tea plantation area. For example, using tiekuanyin tea leaves and sell as Puer tea. Second is imitation of brand. Products from small inferior company uses famous tea trademark brand and sells them at premium price. Check for dye is easy. After brewing, use a white tissue and dip a bit on tea. The colour should be very light on natural tea. There is 3rd example definition of fake tea, they fake the year of the tea by purposely let it age faster using wet storage. |
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Jan 3 2011, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 02:51 PM) If I have a 100 year old pu, I would most probably seal it up with a transparent wrapper and frame it at the wall... haha... I was at a teashop, they have 1 100 year old pu and it cost RM100,000. Madness. Basically the tea owner wants to shiok sendiri by putting a price to it. One thing for sure, that 100 year old puer tea definitely not store in Malaysia for that long. The other tea owner I know of will never display the old tea. If you knew them well, then they will only tell you what 'treasures' they got in their warehouse. |
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Jan 3 2011, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 3 2011, 01:58 PM) For puerh a good start, you can read here forget liao. I actually like ripe puerh more, but the seller tell me raw puerh got more benefit compare to ripe one, so i get it lo. haha.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pu-erh_tea Puerh (Raw or Ripe) is an acquired taste to some people. Acquired means you have to get use to the taste after some time. The issue about puerh is there are fakes out there, so you have to be careful if it taste out of the usual. What puerh did you buy? Any photos? I dint take any photos eh, even forget the name already, haah. now my tea pot spoilt, sad |
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Jan 3 2011, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 3 2011, 05:47 PM) forget liao. I actually like ripe puerh more, but the seller tell me raw puerh got more benefit compare to ripe one, so i get it lo. haha. Assuming you are young, buy some young Raw for aging. Give those babies 20 years more... By the time you retire, you can slowly drink it till end of days.I dint take any photos eh, even forget the name already, haah. now my tea pot spoilt, sad Meanwhile, you can drink ripe now or if you can afford buy some slightly aged raw Then again, there are many young puerh that is very drinkable now too.What happened to ur teapot? This post has been edited by auhckw: Jan 3 2011, 05:54 PM |
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Jan 3 2011, 06:12 PM
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lol...good idea eh. hmm...but i just started drinking, still not into collection yet
maybe i shud try some ripe one. the ripe puerh i drank at national geographic cafe in lot10 is good lol. paiseh, shud not say teapot. the thing boils water, whats its called d? damned, my english is bad lol. it just suddenly cannot use over the weekend :S |
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Jan 4 2011, 03:20 AM
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Just sharing my opinion here. For newcomers in puerh, if u have no idea on where to start, I'd suggest u to try big factory standard products (eg 7542, 7572) to get an idea on how a decent puerh should taste like. From there on, u can go into small factories.
Don't just take everything the tea seller says. It's how it tasted in ur mouth that matters. Also the age of the tea (production year) should only be used as a reference -- it's the storage condition that matters, as many tea sellers will emphasize on the year of the tea. That's y u will also need to know on how to differentiate between dry and wet storage. One more thing is, cheap and good will not come together most of the time. If a tea is priced at a level which is very much lower than the market price, u have to be careful as there may be problem wif the product itself. |
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Jan 4 2011, 08:57 AM
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i buy mine at rm40++, raw one, should be normal rite?
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Jan 4 2011, 09:31 AM
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Depends where you buy. Shops such as Purple Cane sells at high price due to their high rental.
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Jan 4 2011, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 4 2011, 08:57 AM) i buy mine at rm40++, raw one, should be normal rite? If it is a 10 year old raw at rm40++ then it is not normalIf it is a year 2010 raw, high mountain old tree wild arbor at rm40++ then it is not normal If it is 3kg raw in box set at rm40++ then it is not normal So you need to provide us some additional info, the best is the snapshot of the cover Assuming yours is branded Dayi of recent year raw at rm40++, normally not so nice to drink now kind of tea. Have to let it age a little more. |
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Jan 4 2011, 10:50 AM
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i already take out from the packaging , break the disc and put into a container, so can't take snap shot anymore
It's definitely not 3kg raw. haha. i tried to find the details of it but forget where i put the card :S btw, i buy from my hometown at sungai petani, kedah. Added on January 4, 2011, 10:53 amoh, btw it's 七子餅茶. brand i forget liao, but i think is a less than 5 years RAW. This post has been edited by samlee860407: Jan 4 2011, 10:53 AM |
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Jan 4 2011, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 4 2011, 10:50 AM) i already take out from the packaging , break the disc and put into a container, so can't take snap shot anymore Very hard to say with the info you provided, but then it shouldn't taste like powder on how u mentioned earlier.It's definitely not 3kg raw. haha. i tried to find the details of it but forget where i put the card :S btw, i buy from my hometown at sungai petani, kedah. Added on January 4, 2011, 10:53 amoh, btw it's 七子餅茶. brand i forget liao, but i think is a less than 5 years RAW. Note that puerh can absorb its outside smell quite well, so where you keep y our puerh is very important. Same goes with the container you are using. If you store your puerh in baby powder used container, chances it may taste like powder... hehe My friend last time put his puerh in a plastic bag, and after some time... the puerh taste like plastic when brew. |
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Jan 4 2011, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 4 2011, 11:02 AM) Very hard to say with the info you provided, but then it shouldn't taste like powder on how u mentioned earlier. hm....dont know eh. my puerh just doesnt taste nice, how isit not nice i also dont know, but got some powderish taste, also unlike how it was when i tried at the shop :SNote that puerh can absorb its outside smell quite well, so where you keep y our puerh is very important. Same goes with the container you are using. If you store your puerh in baby powder used container, chances it may taste like powder... hehe My friend last time put his puerh in a plastic bag, and after some time... the puerh taste like plastic when brew. i keep at a metal (isit metal? sorta thing) that the shop owner give it to me as he ask me to keep inside it wo.... maybe i shud go buy a ripe one and see, then take a pictar before open |
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Jan 4 2011, 11:41 AM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 4 2011, 11:17 AM) hm....dont know eh. my puerh just doesnt taste nice, how isit not nice i also dont know, but got some powderish taste, also unlike how it was when i tried at the shop :S Few possibility that can cause the difference: -i keep at a metal (isit metal? sorta thing) that the shop owner give it to me as he ask me to keep inside it wo.... maybe i shud go buy a ripe one and see, then take a pictar before open -the shop let you try something, and sell you something else -your storage -your brewing technique -your water / brewing teawares Normally people store in yixing clay canister and not metal cause puerh can breath more easily in clay. Not to say metal is wrong, just more ideal in clay for it to change / age. If you buy 1 piece, you can also opt to buy those small 1 piece cardboard box to store. Not so expensive. I like to keep them tidy and organized Photo of the 1 piece box (RM1.5) and 1 toong box-can squeeze in 9 pieces (RM4)  |
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Jan 4 2011, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(auhckw @ Jan 4 2011, 11:41 AM) Few possibility that can cause the difference: - storage shud not be a problem eh coz i brew it 1 day after i bought it. cannot be 1 day liao terus got problem rite?-the shop let you try something, and sell you something else -your storage -your brewing technique -your water / brewing teawares Normally people store in yixing clay canister and not metal cause puerh can breath more easily in clay. Not to say metal is wrong, just more ideal in clay for it to change / age. If you buy 1 piece, you can also opt to buy those small 1 piece cardboard box to store. Not so expensive. I like to keep them tidy and organized Photo of the 1 piece box (RM1.5) and 1 toong box-can squeeze in 9 pieces (RM4) brewing technique yea...i think thats definitely 1 of the cause coz i still new lol. I am using those er.....pour in hot water, then tekan liao it will flow down de, those plastic/glass type container. Unsure what's it called My water i just use normal water, those 20l litre tong that bought from those supplier. Added on January 4, 2011, 1:57 pmbtw, ur picture is too small eh This post has been edited by samlee860407: Jan 4 2011, 01:57 PM |
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Jan 4 2011, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 4 2011, 01:57 PM) storage shud not be a problem eh coz i brew it 1 day after i bought it. cannot be 1 day liao terus got problem rite? I deleted the original full size photo, so left the small size wan + crop... hehebrewing technique yea...i think thats definitely 1 of the cause coz i still new lol. I am using those er.....pour in hot water, then tekan liao it will flow down de, those plastic/glass type container. Unsure what's it called My water i just use normal water, those 20l litre tong that bought from those supplier. Added on January 4, 2011, 1:57 pmbtw, ur picture is too small eh Yeah, i first started tea using the plastic/glass type thingi... then upgrade many times... glassare, celadon ware... now settle down with yixing teapots |
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Jan 4 2011, 05:55 PM
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wah so keng.....haha ur teapot nice ma
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Jan 5 2011, 10:58 PM
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I m just bought 200gram Long jin Tea (Dragon Well Tea) for RM120 (RMB240) from Hangzhou China for superior grade... not sure worth the price anot? Feel like kene chop? any1 tried this tea before? Is it really worth tat much?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longjing_tea |
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Jan 5 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(ukiya @ Jan 5 2011, 10:58 PM) I m just bought 200gram Long jin Tea (Dragon Well Tea) for RM120 (RMB240) from Hangzhou China for superior grade... not sure worth the price anot? Feel like kene chop? any1 tried this tea before? Is it really worth tat much? Long Jing has many grade and good ones can be quite pricey. I have tried 50gram of Shi Feng Long Jing (supposed to be highest grade) for RM380. Does the price worth the taste? I would say not really lo... it is nice, just that I don't think it really is that good kind of beverage to worth that kind of money.... (personal opinion)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longjing_tea Anyway, Long Jing is best drank when it is fresh aka during spring time about april/may time. So it may not be that fresh/nice to drink now already... if the vendor didn't keep well, the Long Jing may taste like grass... hehe... but anyway, just enjoy it and try to finish it asap. Once you open it (assuming it is vacuum sealed when purchased), the freshness will go down faster. If you plan to keep it in the fridge while consuming it, make sure it has zipper lock and put in a container, but then smell from the fridge may still leak into it too and will spoil the taste. Superior Long Jing should taste light with not strong flavor. It should have sweet aftertaste that will be in your throat for long hours. Meaning, after you drink it, even drinking plain water will feel sweet in your throat area. This post has been edited by auhckw: Jan 5 2011, 11:39 PM |
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Jan 8 2011, 01:23 PM
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Hmm just bought a 19years Ripe pu erh at rm60
Say promotion wo. But they already break it up, around 200g nia, put in those can. Taste good when I taste there la. Don't knw which factory one coz packaging is theirs |
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Jan 8 2011, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 8 2011, 01:23 PM) Hmm just bought a 19years Ripe pu erh at rm60 19 years old ripe puerh @ 200g @ rm60 = sounds very very very very very very very fishySay promotion wo. But they already break it up, around 200g nia, put in those can. Taste good when I taste there la. Don't knw which factory one coz packaging is theirs Where you bought it? |
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Jan 8 2011, 02:04 PM
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Yea I also think so that's why post here lol. Coz I rmb too cheap is bad :S
I buy at a tea shop at queensbay mall, penang Wait when I go back I try see. I also found some tea pot from my parents collection lol Added on January 8, 2011, 2:05 pmThe tea pot is from tenmoku pottery though, hmmmm This post has been edited by samlee860407: Jan 8 2011, 02:05 PM |
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Jan 8 2011, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Jan 8 2011, 02:04 PM) Yea I also think so that's why post here lol. Coz I rmb too cheap is bad :S Looking fwd for your teapots photos I buy at a tea shop at queensbay mall, penang Wait when I go back I try see. I also found some tea pot from my parents collection lol Added on January 8, 2011, 2:05 pmThe tea pot is from tenmoku pottery though, hmmmm |
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