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post Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:22 PM)
Is red ribbon more premium? How much you bought it?
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Not sure. I guess it meant for export to Taiwan or elsewhere. It taste good. I bought 1 basket (84 pieces). So special price for me biggrin.gif
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post Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Aug 26 2010, 09:29 PM)
Not sure. I guess it meant for export to Taiwan or elsewhere. It taste good. I bought 1 basket (84 pieces). So special price for me  biggrin.gif
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drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

That is real lot...
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post Aug 26 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 26 2010, 09:31 PM)
drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

That is real lot...
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If you can find good tea at good price, then buy in bulk. You can drink, exchange tea with friends or wait for price appreciate then sell. Anyway, the teashop import a few basket and all sold out.
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post Aug 28 2010, 04:53 PM

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Dragon Pole - Menghai Dayi Pu-erh Tea 2009 Ripe
14+1 Beeng (box set)

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This ripe Dragon is so good. No smoke, Not bitter. Not dry. Smooth. Deep coloured. Indeed premium category. At the shop, I asked them to let me compare an older ripe puerh of the same price with it.

They compared it with a 5 years old Ripe (can't remember the recipe), but this dragon even though 2009 (dec production - less than 1 year aging), is much better in terms of flavor, aroma and smoothness.
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post Aug 29 2010, 10:36 AM

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What a unique way to brew pu-erh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZOSZgnDuLc
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post Aug 29 2010, 11:17 AM

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CCTV9: Story of the Pu'er Tea


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFPiSLZ661w
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post Aug 29 2010, 07:41 PM

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i dont like pu-er , too "colour-ish"
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post Aug 30 2010, 12:54 AM

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wow.. for a newbie tea like me, i learn alot.. cool!
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post Aug 30 2010, 09:26 AM

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An old articles about the pu erh crisis

EMBARGO: In once-booming tea region, a bitter reality
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/as...30756.html?_r=1

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post Aug 30 2010, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(auhckw @ Aug 30 2010, 09:26 AM)
An old articles about the pu erh crisis

EMBARGO: In once-booming tea region, a bitter reality
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/as...30756.html?_r=1

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Those buying at the peak 2006-2007 paying 2-3 times more. After the price crash, you can find many cheap new tea. However, prices of aged tea never come down.
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post Aug 30 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(djronzai @ Aug 29 2010, 07:41 PM)
i dont like pu-er , too "colour-ish"
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Same here, but girls typically like it cuz they say it's a slimming tea.
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post Aug 30 2010, 07:31 PM

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Year of Tiger - Menghai Taetea Puer Tea 2010 Raw

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post Aug 30 2010, 10:41 PM

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Having tea tasting for nearly 5 hours, about 9 types of teas... I am seriously having the drunk feeling and hang over.

Basically from the 3rd hour onwards... I couldn't tell the difference of the tea (same category) any more.


Added on August 30, 2010, 11:36 pmJust want to share what I’ve learnt today from a tea seller. This guy claimed he used to be a tea lover before becoming a tea seller. He has about 15 years of experience and has sampled many many teas (he threw mountain names, trees names, etc that he has sampled). Here is his advice for a noob like me:-

- First, learn how to drink water. Drink different types of water, drink water at a different temperature (hot, warm, cold, ice) and drink water in different clay/pots. If you can tell the difference of water taste, it will be easier for you to taste tea.
- When tasting tea, best NOT to use influential water and clay/pots.
- Drink all kinds of tea. Cheap. Bad. Expensive. Good. Young. Aged.
- Don’t look at the price before drinking tea. Expensive tea does not mean good. Price is influential. Usually people would think that expensive means good. So, rely on your own taste to decide whether is it worth the price and whether you are financially capable of buying it.
- Don’t listen to what the tea seller says about the character and flavor of the tea. When one listen to what the tea seller says, the brain will somehow influence your taste.
- Buy tea based on your preference. Let your taste decide. No point buying something that people says nice, but you don’t enjoy it.
- What do you seek for when buying tea? Health? Investment? Taste of Luxury? Show off?
- Experiment on different brewing timing based on your preference. Sometimes soaking it longer may give better taste but lesser health benefit. So what is your preference?
- Learn to identify what kind of bitter is good. Not all bitterness is bad.
- Usually when you first taste a new kind of tea, you may not like it. Learn to drink a few more rounds before concluding.
- Learn to feel the taste at the tongue, mouth and throat. Different types of tea will give different after taste. What kind of after taste you like? Some people like dryness, some people like sweetness, some people like bitterness, etc etc. Is all up to your own preference.
- Learn to identify from taste what is wet storage and dry storage. Decide which you like. Wet doesn’t mean bad. Dry doesn’t mean good.
- Always observe how tea sellers brew the tea. What kind of parameters, etc. Did they put a lot of tea leaves vs water?
- When investing on young puerh, since nowadays puerh is done in mass production… will the price increase like how it used to be in the future?
- He said one can easily find an aged raw in the future, but not many will keep cook as people tend to drink cook straight away.

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post Aug 31 2010, 12:14 AM

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Drink 9 types of tea in one sitting is kinda too much. Normally, I taste 1-3 types and take sample for the rest. Sometimes I also buy 1 piece to sample at my home. If I identified the tea is good, I will buy in bulk. Identifying a good puer tea takes much experience. The only way is to read more, go to tea shop to sample and of course, learn from experienced tea master. Fortunately, many tea master in KL is willing to share information provided you asked the right questions.
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post Aug 31 2010, 03:52 PM

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Today went for another round of tea tasting. 3 hours, 6 tea (2 ripe, 4 raw). This time, I sampled only few cups per tea, so didn't get drunk smile.gif

Managed to sample a 80s Raw Pu. The young raw taste has gone. It is smooth, but tasted nothing great. That cake is about RM1k.
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post Sep 1 2010, 10:23 AM

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2010-08-26
http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/china_world.../00178_011.html

昆明檢逾五萬個假普洱茶餅

除了假果汁,茶葉大省雲南也發現大批假普洱。昆明警方根據舉報,破獲該市西山區一個假茶工場,繳獲假普洱茶餅五萬多個,茶原料數十噸。

據了解,假冒最多的是雲南勐海普洱茶廠、雲南中茶茶業有限公司生產的各種品牌的普洱茶。當局表示,工場中的假冒茶葉是直接放在地上發酵,大腸桿菌含量嚴重超標,對身體有害。

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Kunming seized more than 50,000 fake tea cakes

In addition to false fruit juice, tea, Yunnan province also found a large number of false Pu'er. Kunming police report, the city uncovered a fake tea factory Xishan District, seized more than 50,000 fake tea cakes, tea, dozens of tons of raw materials.

It is understood that most counterfeit MENGHAI Yunnan tea plants, Yunnan Chacha Limited production of various brands of tea. Authorities said the plant in the fake tea is fermented directly on the ground, E. coli, found excessive harmful.
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post Sep 2 2010, 12:06 AM

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2008 – Meng Ku High Mountain Raw Pu-erh

Finally decided to open this. My first purchased raw pu.

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I bought this when I first started my venture into pu. Initially I thought I was a raw guy, but in the midst of the venture, I found out that I am a ripe pu guy. Drinking this reminds me why I liked raw at the first place.

Though it is still a young raw, but there is not much of the young solid taste. I have tasted quite a few young raw pu and mostly are strong or has the smoky smell or bitterness or spikiness for me. This on the other hand is very much drinkable and smooth. I enjoyed it. The smell of the pu is good. The after taste is real long lasting (maybe partially because I am brewing it with Shigaraki Kyusu). There is some sweetness in my throat from 2nd infusion onwards.

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5g : 120ml water

Rinsing - 10 seconds

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Picture: 1st infusion - 60 seconds

2nd infusion - 15 seconds
3rd infusion - 30 seconds
4th infusion – 45 seconds

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Picture: 5th infusion – 60 seconds. Taste and colour of the tea didn’t change much from the 1st infusion till the 5th infusion.

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post Sep 2 2010, 10:48 PM

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2010 Mi Di Raw Pu-erh

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5g : 120ml water

Rinsing - 10 seconds

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Picture: 1st infusion - 60 seconds - don't like

2nd infusion - 15 seconds - still dont' like
3rd infusion - 45 seconds - gave up

Tasted dry with light bitterness aftertaste. If I recall correctly, it shouldn't be this kind of taste when I bought it. Kind of not my preference. I won't be drinking this anytime soon. Hope aging will make it better.

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post Sep 3 2010, 04:21 PM

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CNNP - Meng Hai Lang He Tea Factory 2000 raw

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10 years old. Dry storage.

Liquor has become thicker and quite smooth.

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Colour of the tea above is 1st infusion.

Aroma and Taste is quite ok. Still have Pu smell.

A little dry.

A little bitter. Maybe this used to be bitter but bitterness has gone down from the aging. Acceptable bitterness.

Not much aftertaste. The taste only lasted in mouth/tongue but not much in the throat

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post Sep 3 2010, 11:20 PM

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2006 Lao Ban Zhang Raw Pu-erh

I was told that this is premium spring grade. Leaves were from 2005 spring. Beeng compressed in 2006.

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Though it has been 4 years, this Pu seems relatively young in terms of taste and colour. Doesn't have smoke smell/taste. No bitter. Most likely dry storage.

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8g : 200ml water

Rinsing - 10 seconds

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1st infusion - 60 seconds
-Taste like normal grade Pu, Nothing great. The taste seems weak. No aftertaste feel yet.

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2nd infusion - 15 seconds
-Taste improved. Can start feeling the aftertaste in the throat.

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3rd infusion - 30 seconds
-The joy starts from here. Aftertaste quite deep in throat. Taste spread throughout the mouth, but also feeling a little dry.

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4th infusion – 45 seconds
-Same feeling as 3rd infusion. Quality didn't drop.

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5th infusion – 60 seconds
-Still feels good, but slight drop in taste. I think it has reached its peak and is heading downward if I were to continue brewing. Stopped here.

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Overall, this is a good premium LBZ. Even after 50 minutes, I can still feel the nice aftertaste in throat/mouth.

Now the question is, does the taste justify the price? Was it really that good for the price it is? I definitely didn't regret buying this, but price vs quality ratio, I think LBZ may be over hyped.

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