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post Sep 21 2010, 09:38 PM

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Just bought this...

Xia Guan Golden Ribbon Puer Tea 2010 357g Raw

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Usually I don't fancy young xia guan puerh cause it tend to have their signature smokiness. But this Golden Ribbon XY is made from a different person / modified formula. There is no smokiness and it is easy to drink being a young raw.

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post Sep 22 2010, 10:49 AM

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My opinion on how to start the puerh journey...

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I categorized puerh in these categories:-
Young Ripe (cheap)
Young Ripe (expensive)
Young Raw (cheap)
Young Raw (expensive)
Aged Ripe (5 to 15)
Super Aged Ripe (15 and above)
Aged Raw (5 to 15)
Super Aged Raw (15 and above)

Puerh is somehow an acquired taste (especially for aged puerh), so sample in categories and see which one you fall into. Sometimes it may take awhile before you will acquire the liking for puerh, so take your time. Once you have identified which category and specific type of puerh you like, then it is easier for your selection. Not everyone likes aged. Not all young raw are hard to drink. So sample sample sample.

For puerh, there is a Up and Down in terms of its character/taste. When it is Down it will lose its flavor and taste, but it doesn't mean that piece of puerh is gone. It 'may' still go Up but this may take from days, weeks or even years. So don't throw away your puerh when it is Down. Keep it aside for future tasting.

When tasting, always go for ripe first then only raw. Preferably you drink in sequence of grade too, from low to high. Reason, raw taste is stronger than ripe. So if you tasted raw first, you cannot fully enjoy the ripe. Same goes for grade sequence, higher grade will overwrite the lower grade.

For a start, go for Big Factory Puerh such as Menghai-Dayi then Xia Guan then explore the rest as you go. These days it is 'safer' to buy from big factories be it genuine or cleanliness.

If you are lost and don't know where to start, go for standard recipe such as Dayi's 7542 (raw), 8582 (raw), 7452 (ripe), 7572 (ripe). Then you can venture into their more special/premium editions.

Next venture can be more specific to which mountain you like too. But take note when they say eg, Bulang mountain, this mountain area can be very very big. Not all quality are the same. But in general, if the leaves are from very old trees (hundreds to thousands of years old) and is at high altitude then it 'should' be better. Don't be surprise with the price difference when it come to these criteria.

Also, first batch puerh are usually better. You can identify the batch by the number on the packing. Eg. Year 2009's first batch will be labeled 901, Year 2010's first batch will be labeled 001, and so on... Another thing to look for is, Spring tea is usually better than other season's harvest, but this can be hard to identify especially when it come to big factories where they usually mix the leaves.

I don't buy tea online, but here are some places i look for puerh reference:-
http://www.yunnansourcing.com/store/

http://stores.ebay.com/Dragon-Tea-House

A chinese seller for new products and price reference:
http://goodtea114.taobao.com
I don't know how to read chinese, but looking at the pictures and google translator helps smile.gif
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post Sep 22 2010, 10:50 AM

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A tea seller was sharing his experience with me that back then young raw can be very hazardous to drink. He knows some other sellers who has actually admitted into hospital because of the tasting too many young raw. Can be damaging to liver and if serious lungs.

The good news is that these days younger raw are easier to drink, but here are his advise:-
1) Don't drink young raw with empty stomach
2) If you drink young raw, compensate back by the same amount of water
3) Drink age raw or ripe smile.gif
~Lesson from JYH~
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post Sep 22 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(auronthas @ Sep 22 2010, 03:38 PM)
Hi, found this interesting yet informative thread, I love chinese tea too. 

I started chinese tea since 12 years ago, following friends to tea shop and get 'hooked' lol.

I started with Oolong tea (such as Tie Quan Yin, etc.) then Green Tea (Long Jing, Mei Jia Wu, etc.) and three years ago, started with Pu-Er.

Like most of ppl, I do not like Pu-Er initially as was cheated with bad quality Pu-Er, after few years later, during one of the tea exhibitions, someone introduced me various type of Pu-Er like previous posts stated, young raw, old ripe Pu-Er, etc.  I started with young raw Pu-Er as it is easy to get adapt, slowly I also start liking the old ripe Pu-Er.

Two year ago, I have bought Xia Guan (下关)Duo Cha and Yi Wu (易武)spring young raw Pu-Er (three rolls, each roll with seven pcs), keep them in well ventilated space/clay pot (紫砂)for natural fermentation.

Starting to learn to differentiate taste of different years of Yi Wu young raw Pu-Er. 

Just to share a brief story of my tea experience, there are lot more to learn and experience from this thread.


Added on September 22, 2010, 3:42 pm

My recent medical report showed that my ALT/APT (liver) are higher than the normal, could it be the cause of young raw Pu-Er tea? Usually I drink around 3 - 5 pm during weekend approximately 500ml.
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Glad to hear from you.

So when the result showed higher ALT/APT (liver), what did the doctor say to make it stable?

I have been on 1liter+ consistently daily for past 4 months. A little worry myself, but just couldn't resist to drink on. Is there any symptom of pain, etc?
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post Sep 22 2010, 11:39 PM

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Few days ago I was having some aged puerh and wasn't so satisfied with it. Today, I managed to try this and it blew me away.

Early 90s Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh

This is >15 <20 years old. The seller couldn't tell the exact year as the original keeper couldn't remember. This is sold in loose form.

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Looks old and has strong old aroma from the dry leaves.

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First infusion (30s). Colour looks quite brownish red. Taste is quite unique. It does not have the strong young ripe flavor. Flavor was light but smooth. It has the oldness taste but not dirt taste. It has a little chinese herb kind of flavor. Quite good aftertaste in the throat (sweetness). Smooth. No smokiness. No bitterness.

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Sixth infusion (3mins). Colour has gone much lighter. Flavor has done down, but the good oldness taste is still there.

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The leaves.

Overall I'm quite happy with this. I only bought 150g, if this keeps getting as good as today's session, I may purchase more.

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post Sep 22 2010, 11:45 PM

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For years I have been eating mooncake without tea. This is the first time and I am quite impressed that it blends so well.

Mooncake is very sweet and it makes puerh goes even smoother in the throat. Getting HIGH on sugar and a good aged ripe puerh rclxm9.gif thumbup.gif

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post Sep 26 2010, 09:38 PM

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2010 – Royal Court Gong Ting – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh - 200g
*This may not be the proper english name for this puerh, I just roughly guess the translation

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Had some samples b4 buying. Very 'ooomp' kind of taste. Flavor is very strong. Can feel the aftertaste in throat on the first cup itself.

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post Sep 26 2010, 09:40 PM

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2009 – Taetea Golden Brick – Menghai Taetea Ripe Pu-erh - 1kg

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Why oh why is the packing so nice...

This is the first time production for this recipe. No samples to try, but I'm buying this for collection and in future a gift (i'm thinking this as 1 of the wedding gifts) for my son (currently 11 months+) when he is big enough to appreciate smile.gif

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post Sep 27 2010, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Sep 27 2010, 03:50 AM)
Hi there. "Gong ting" means palace, in this case it means "imperial grade puerh". When u see this term being used, normally the tea uses shoots as primary material, that's why the strong flavor. But from what I heard, puerh using gong ting material will lose its flavor faster because of its finer buds that's why it's not meant for long term storage.
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Correct. I heard the same too.

I bought some early 90s Gong ting puerh that uses the same kind of leaves. Not sure how it tasted when it was young, but after all the years the flavor is still good just not strong.
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post Sep 28 2010, 09:44 PM

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Last week I bought this:-

Early 90s Gong Ting Ripe Pu-erh - 150g
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No brand, Unknown maker... but the taste is superb. Couldn't resist and so...

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*Box is not the original box. The original box is just ordinary cardboard box

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post Sep 28 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Sep 28 2010, 10:14 PM)
6th infusion already diluted. Not really high quality tea leaves.

Get ready your bullets, the 6th Malaysia Puer tea fair is on Nov
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2 tea sellers told me b4 that the older the ripe puerh tea gets, the faster it get diluted.


Added on September 28, 2010, 10:29 pmPuerh fair... nice smile.gif but i think i have to slow down my purchase. Space getting limited. Wife getting angry sad.gif


Added on September 28, 2010, 10:32 pmSpeaking of non diluted puerh, I had some 90s Lao Cha Dou. Those are in chunks. The seller said he tried brewing it for 30 infusions and it never gets diluted.

I sampled it, but the taste was average only so didn't purchase. 1/2 the price of the one i purchased above.

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post Sep 30 2010, 05:40 PM

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Coming from Green Tea, Puerh Tea... this is my very first time tasting Earl Grey - Ceylon tea.

First impression on the smell of the dry tea leaves is, what a weird strong smell. After tasting it, the smell and taste gave me goose bumps. I tried to finish my glass, but just couldn't... it tasted very alien.

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post Oct 1 2010, 09:43 PM

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I was planning to do experiment on expressing the crack of my celadon gaiwan. So I decided to soak it with Ripe Puerh.

This is the Ripe Puerh beeng. I took a big chunk and dump it into a cooking pot...
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After boiling it...
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While I was playing around with the leaves...
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Here is what I found among the leaves...
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post Oct 2 2010, 08:41 AM

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QUOTE(PSG-1 @ Oct 2 2010, 02:46 AM)
Can u give a front cover screenshot? Well, it happens at times, especially in unknown factories. I have had the same thing before but what I found is a nail.  doh.gif
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Understandable that these kind of things happens. Lucky is not some insect ie Lizard, Cockroach, Spider, Beatles, etc. Would be more disgusting.

My only consolation is hopefully the hair pin belongs to some sexy lady tongue.gif

Anyway, I'm leaving that beeng aside and won't be consuming it anymore...
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post Oct 4 2010, 10:04 PM

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Dong Dao Ru Kiln Lucky Pot (Sky Green)

According to the seller, this is Tiger (Chinese Zodiac) year Teapot. Limited to 2,000 units only.

Size about 140ml / 5oz. Surprisingly, the water flow out is smooth. Cover is fit on nicely. I tried positioning the pot about 100 degrees and the cover still didn't show sign of falling off. When pressed on the hole on the cover, the water will stop flowing.

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http://www.gzhengfu.com/info_content1.jsp?bar_id=7&id=24989


Added on October 4, 2010, 11:15 pmGoogle can be confusing... shakehead.gif

东道汝窑吉壶
East Road Ruyao Ji pot


虎形壶钮和龙口形壶把。壶钮上的老虎造型一改传统的威武雄壮样貌,
Tiger-shaped pot-shaped pot the button and Longkou. Tiger on the pot button changed the traditional shape of magnificent appearance,

一脸天真烂漫,品茶间难免莞尔一笑。
Look innocent, tea rooms inevitably smiled.

采用露胎处理(即不上釉),素雅釉色与粗矿泥料对比,
Treatment with exposed tires (ie, not glazed), elegant and coarse mineral mud glaze contrast,

突出釉色的质感及泥料的质朴感。
Outstanding texture and glaze the simple sense of mud.

壶身圆润饱满,手感极佳,恰似能容天下难容之事的大肚,
Royal Coffee Pot rounded and full, feel good, like the capacity to accommodate the world of things difficult for Tatu,

谦让包容,天下太平为“吉”。
Humility, tolerance, peace and harmony as "Kat."


Added on October 5, 2010, 8:05 amThese are the other 2 special edition teapots that the shop has too, I decided to choose the tiger cause this is Tiger year (the year I started having tea as hobby) and it looked cute to me.

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http://www.gzhengfu.com/info_content1.jsp?bar_id=7&id=24987

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post Oct 5 2010, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Oct 5 2010, 07:11 PM)
I think you been misled. Where got limited to 2000? China population is so huge and it won't arrive here if it produces only limited units.
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Haha... Correct. I wasn't taking what they say bout that seriously.

But they do have a Limited edition teapot+2 cups set. It is serialized on the teapot +cup and comes with a wood certificate stating the same serial number...


Added on October 5, 2010, 9:10 pmHere is the photo of the limited edition. Photos not mine

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Just got this today smile.gif

Dong Dao Ru Kiln Sunflower Drinking Cup (Moon White)

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post Oct 6 2010, 10:42 PM

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Finally got myself a Tea Pet smile.gif

Dong Dao Ru Kiln Good Fortune Ox Tea Pet Heng Fu (Sky Green)

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post Oct 7 2010, 11:51 PM

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Tea Blowing Contest
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post Oct 8 2010, 02:45 PM

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I was at a tea shop and the owner said there is some serious problem with tea in China and the government has prohibited the selling of tea. The owner said there will be definitely shortage of tea soon.

So I came back and start digging.... here is the news:-

Excessive pesticide residue found in tea products: Taipei
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/local/t...e-pesticide.htm

Updated Tuesday, September 7, 2010 3:24 am TWN, CNA

TAIPEI -- Three out of 36 tea products tested in the capital contained excessive pesticide residue, according to results of the Taipei City government's latest food safety checks released on Monday.

The substandard products include Jinxuan Oolong from Teatalker on Changchun Road, oolong from the Bade teahouse on Bade Road and oolong from the Taiwan Handicraft Promotion Center chain store at the Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall, the Taipei City Department of Health report showed.

The products were all found to have excessive amounts of residue of pesticides including fenpropathrin, imidacloprid, methomyl and fipronil.

The city has pulled the products off shelves, prohibited businesses from selling them and launched an investigation into the sources, health officials said.

Chiang Yu-mei, a senior technical specialist at the city health department, said pesticide residue in tea can cause nausea and vomiting, while increasing the risk of liver problems.

She suggests consumers use hot water that is at least 80 degrees Celsius to make tea and to avoid drinking the first round of tea because most pesticides used by local farmers are water soluble.

The local government conducts annual safety checks on randomly selected tea products in the city. In 2008 and 2009, no samples were found to contain excessive pesticide residue, according to city health officials.

Media reports, however, prompted the city to conduct a special test on oolong tea sold at the National Palace Museum souvenir shop in 2009, and the tea was discovered to contain pesticide residue.

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