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TSicecolddamncold
post Apr 13 2010, 11:12 PM, updated 16y ago

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sifus out there, im so new to ICE.. recently got an Pioneer TS-W308D4 sub but my amp is not power enuf to maximise it's bass..
any pro sifus out there can recommend any mid range monoblock to drive this double magnet double coil to at least 90% of its capacity?
budget for the monoblock around rm1k++
pls advise biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2010, 11:23 PM

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Emm...... How about Agako XT3000D? It should be around that price.
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post Apr 13 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 13 2010, 11:23 PM)
Emm......  How about Agako XT3000D? It should be around that price.
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wow checked the price of the Agako.. rm1400++ sweat but good feedback from it..
hmph any other suggestions??
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post Apr 13 2010, 11:37 PM

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Which shop? Or try to look for shop that can order for you, which maybe cheaper if the shop owner got no intention to cut your throat nicely.
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post Apr 13 2010, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 13 2010, 11:37 PM)
Which shop? Or try to look for shop that can order for you, which maybe cheaper if the shop owner got no intention to cut your throat nicely.
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some online seller at zerotohundred.. how much is the market price or cheaper price?
u can get one at supplier price? blush.gif
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:01 AM

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Nope, just happen when I'm searching for amps last time and drop by to an acc shop. I ask him and he say have to order and it was rm1100 if not mistaken. Because he don't keep stock, so he never charge the rental fees. Is good that you look at your nearby acc shops and ask them if they can order for you....
Now I seldom buy locally as I prefer to buy from US.
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:04 AM

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oh wow if it's rm1100 then i might get it.. which acc shop? can recall? =)
oh by the way bro, getting from US cheaper or not? maybe u can get one for me =p
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:23 AM

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In Port Dickson the shop.....
Nope, buy in US does not mean it will be cheaper. But hell cheaper than what acc shops selling here. Like Pioneer monoblock for <rm1000.
And I will put more budget on it by getting a better monoblock... That's why I get myself a JL HD750/1. I saw once an old JL amp E series selling for rm2000 for 4 channel....
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:29 AM

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wow cool... pioneer mono for <rm1000..
bro may i know which site do u visit in order to purchase from the US?
might consider that too =) is it safe to trade wif them? how long would the item normally arrive malaysia after payment?
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:39 AM

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Ebay. You need a credit card, then open a paypal account. Normally it takes 1 to 2 weeks. But if you want faster also can, but the shipping cost is very high. There's some setbacks on buying from US as you may get taxed when those a$$Holes(customs) are hardworking. Some of the sellers are good by under declare the value which is good(and bad if something happens).
I got my monoblock declared for USD50 only by the seller....
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post Apr 14 2010, 12:43 AM

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aikss...too bad i don hv a credit card nor a paypal account... seems quite troublesome =(
wat do u mean under declare the value? means by giving u at cost price? monoblock for USD50??
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post Apr 14 2010, 07:30 AM

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Nope, when the item is crossing the border, it must be declared. By under clare the true value, you no need to pay tax. This is something the seller make it more attractive.
Indeed it is troublesome, but atleast you can get something good deals.
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post Apr 15 2010, 04:10 PM

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considering its only a 400W sub and dvc, u should be able to easily find a monoblock in that budget, just make sure its a good brand

just browsed mycarhifi.com, a few amps u just missed:
audison lrx Rm1.1k
Orion D1200 Rm750
JBL BP600.1 RM750

of coz these are 2nd hand la, so if u are patient and rajin to browse other forums, u can find some good deals
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post Apr 15 2010, 06:49 PM

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One more my friend selling ;- good monoblock

Item(s):Orion Class D Monoblock HCCA D2400

* 2400W HCCA High Current Competition Class D Monoblock Amplifier
* 2400W Class D Mono Amplifier
* RMS Power Output:
o 4 Ohms: 425 watts x 1 chan.
o 2 Ohms: 800 watts x 1 chan.
o 1 Ohm: 1200 watts x 1 chan.
* 10dB of boost with INTELLi Q
* Remote gain capable
* Selectable AUX out
* Fuse size: (3) 40 ATC
* Massive loosely-regulated MOSFET power supply
* IntelliQ Bass Optimization Circuit and Remote Gain Control
* Heavy Gauge Direct-wire High Current Power and Speaker Terminals
* 18dB/octave Low-pass Filter
* Dimensions: 12.6" L x 10.2" W x 2.4" H
* 1-year SonicElectronix.com warranty

I think still got warranty, hehe. link here; http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1360775

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post Apr 16 2010, 12:10 PM

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ok just browsed icehifi.com, few there for you...

JBL BP600.1 new RM1000
JBL GTO 601.1 II new - RM1500

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post Apr 16 2010, 03:57 PM

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BP600.1 temp to overheat....don't pressure it too much
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post Apr 16 2010, 04:46 PM

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thanks sifus for all the advise.
by the way, just trying to ask.. as i had just changed a nakamichi component set ranging rm850, planning to get a 4ch amp to drive both my comp set and sub 1st.. as my current 4ch amp cant drive both to the maximum..
any 4ch amp recommended?
then only i'll change a monoblock to fully power my sub and the 4ch amp to drive my comp as well =)
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post Apr 16 2010, 05:32 PM

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1) set the wiring all car room floor 4AWG power cable 1st (mainly under front passenger side or driver side) 1 more 4AWG to rear bonet special long cable for your monoblock

2) speaker cable 8AWG - 12AWG to front speaker both side and to rear SW speaker

3) prepare / buy a good 3 set RCA cable for 4 channel (need 2 RCA and 1 monoblock need 1 RCA) depend how many output your HU

This wiring very important; do 1 time enough, then nextime if you want change amplifier no need to install over again. Suggest get a very good 4 channel amplifier 1st (prefer high end) so nextime if you nakamichi comp set no satisfy then change comp set again.
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post Apr 16 2010, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Apr 16 2010, 05:32 PM)
1) set the wiring all car room floor 4AWG power cable 1st (mainly under front passenger side or driver side) 1 more 4AWG to rear bonet special long cable for your monoblock

2) speaker cable 8AWG - 12AWG to front speaker both side and to rear SW speaker

3) prepare / buy a good 3 set RCA cable for 4 channel (need 2 RCA and 1 monoblock need 1 RCA) depend how many output your HU

This wiring very important; do 1 time enough, then nextime if you want change amplifier no need to install over again. Suggest get a very good 4 channel amplifier 1st (prefer high end) so nextime if you nakamichi comp set no satisfy then change comp set again.
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wow pro man.. lol im not so sure bout the wiring but i remember i use some good cables but not too expensive ones.. still very new in ICE tongue.gif
so wat 4ch amp do u suggest? this one ok --> alpine PDX 4.100 ? as wat u suggested me in my other thread..
do u hv a shop bro? u sounds like a professional biggrin.gif maybe i can go over ur shop and hv a look..
by the way how much is the alpine amp above?
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post Apr 17 2010, 12:18 PM

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i do have shop but NOT selling ICE stuff, i'm just like u starting learn ICE stuff few week ago ^^ btw i selling condom, s3xtoy like I NEED HOUSE, mine one got 7 branch throughout east malaysia.

I learn from supersound, robinhood, bafukie, zennn, ckmoy007, howie, mywifecar, craziechild, pieces and many more. They give some comment, all u need to listen and make your own decision whether its work or not?

Alpine PDX 4.100 nice ma, coz i using it. When turn to loud volume the alpine gv nominal 100watt x 4 channel at 4ohm (stable) nice amp, won't heat up like other capalang amp.
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post Apr 17 2010, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Kar Leong @ Apr 17 2010, 12:18 PM)
i do have shop but NOT selling ICE stuff, i'm just like u starting learn ICE stuff few week ago ^^ btw i selling condom, s3xtoy like I NEED HOUSE, mine one got 7 branch throughout east malaysia.

I learn from supersound, robinhood, bafukie, zennn, ckmoy007, howie, mywifecar, craziechild, pieces and many more. They give some comment, all u need to listen and make your own decision whether its work or not?

Alpine PDX 4.100 nice ma, coz i using it. When turn to loud volume the alpine gv nominal 100watt x 4 channel at 4ohm (stable) nice amp, won't heat up like other capalang amp.
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oh yes those ppl are pros.. hv been reading their comments but hardly can understand some stuff haahah...
not sure wat is the model of the amp that acc guy intro me to install also.. will find it out soon biggrin.gif
woww sex toys.. any sex doll for sale? haahah.. mind posting some for me? tongue.gif
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post Apr 19 2010, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Apr 16 2010, 04:46 PM)
thanks sifus for all the advise.
by the way, just trying to ask.. as i had just changed a nakamichi component set ranging rm850, planning to get a 4ch amp to drive both my comp set and sub 1st.. as my current 4ch amp cant drive both to the maximum..
any 4ch amp recommended?
then only i'll change a monoblock to fully power my sub and the 4ch amp to drive my comp as well =)
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your sub is dvc 4ohm i think, so u have to run it at either 2ohm or 8ohm, usually 2ohm la, since 8ohm very little power.

its very difficult to find a 4ch amp that can drive a sub at 2ohm, u need to buy separate amps for sub and comps. maybe find the sub amp first, run the comps from head unit, or if u have other old 2ch amp first.
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post Apr 19 2010, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 19 2010, 01:25 PM)
your sub is dvc 4ohm i think, so u have to run it at either 2ohm or 8ohm, usually 2ohm la, since 8ohm very little power.

its very difficult to find a 4ch amp that can drive a sub at 2ohm, u need to buy separate amps for sub and comps.  maybe find the sub amp first, run the comps from head unit, or if u have other old 2ch amp first.
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bro zenn, thanks for the advice.. by the way i got my Naka model already.. which is SP-S6500.. wat do u think of this comp?
hmph my initial plan was to get a 4ch amp now to power both my sub and comp.. as i was planning to get a monoblock to solo power my dual coil sub..
so u think it's better for me to get a monoblock 1st? or a 4ch to power both of it now till i get a monoblock? then only i'll switch the 4ch amp to power just the comp set..
advise advise biggrin.gif
by the way bro zenn, do u think this Alpine 4ch amp MRP-F300 is good to power both of my comp set and dual coil sub?
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post Apr 20 2010, 12:19 PM

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naka not known for its speakers, only the head units, and some of their amps...

that 4ch amp cant run a dvc sub la, like i said, u need a mono, or a 2ch that can go down to 2ohm bridged mono

so if your budget is limited buy the sub amp first, run the front speakers with head unit power for the moment.

next upgrade buy amp for your components.
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post Apr 20 2010, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 20 2010, 12:19 PM)
naka not known for its speakers, only the head units, and some of their amps...

that 4ch amp cant run a dvc sub la, like i said, u need a mono, or a 2ch that can go down to 2ohm bridged mono

so if your budget is limited buy the sub amp first, run the front speakers with head unit power for the moment.

next upgrade buy amp for your components.
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but problem is my current amp is way too lousy.. ohoh u mean solely using the headunit to power my comp?
hmph hmph, maybe i could think bout that way too
aiks.. some more that guy told me the Alpine MRP-F300 can run both my dvc and comp guarantee good blink.gif
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post Apr 20 2010, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 20 2010, 12:19 PM)
naka not known for its speakers, only the head units, and some of their amps...

that 4ch amp cant run a dvc sub la, like i said, u need a mono, or a 2ch that can go down to 2ohm bridged mono

so if your budget is limited buy the sub amp first, run the front speakers with head unit power for the moment.

next upgrade buy amp for your components.
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thats what i did when i first started with ICE.
those are my specs:
Front: JBL Component 2 way GT5-650C
Rear: JBL 2 way GTO627
Sub: GTO1204D X2
RCA: Soundstream RCA 3sets
4 channel: Oxygen OA754
Monoblock: JBL BPX500.1 engineered by Crown.


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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Apr 20 2010, 05:26 PM)
but problem is my current amp is way too lousy.. ohoh u mean solely using the headunit to power my comp?
hmph hmph, maybe i could think bout that way too
aiks.. some more that guy told me the Alpine MRP-F300 can run both my dvc and comp guarantee good  blink.gif
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tats what he meant.
actually your HU can support your component too.
the problem is, you cant overlap it, this can cause fatal to your component.

seems like we have the same point, not tat agree for you to buy a 4channel amp to bridge your Sub and Component.
or u try like what he advised you 1st, buy an amp for your sub 1st. after that, 1 more amp for your component.

This post has been edited by kelvinbadroyal: Apr 20 2010, 07:21 PM
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post Apr 20 2010, 10:25 PM

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hmph hmph, wat u guys said is really true..
maybe i shud get 2 seperate amps for my comp and sub..
by the way.. wat u guys think of this combination :
Pioneer dvc sub-woofer TS-W308D4 powered with Kenwood mono KAC 8105D,
Nakamichi SP-S6500 component powered with pioneer 3400t.
pls advise whether this 2 amps can give quality to my sets..
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Apr 20 2010, 10:25 PM)
hmph hmph, wat u guys said is really true..
maybe i shud get 2 seperate amps for my comp and sub..
by the way.. wat u guys think of this combination :
Pioneer dvc sub-woofer TS-W308D4 powered with Kenwood mono KAC 8105D,
Nakamichi SP-S6500 component powered with pioneer 3400t.
pls advise whether this 2 amps can give quality to my sets..
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lol, take a look at this: http://cforum2.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?...&extra=page%3D1

btw, hw much do both amp cost?
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post Apr 21 2010, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Apr 20 2010, 05:26 PM)
aiks.. some more that guy told me the Alpine MRP-F300 can run both my dvc and comp guarantee good  blink.gif
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tell that fella go fly kite...maybe he wants u to damage the amp so he can sell u 2 amps instead of one....
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post Apr 21 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(zennn @ Apr 21 2010, 12:19 PM)
tell that fella go fly kite...maybe he wants u to damage the amp so he can sell u 2 amps instead of one....
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F*** that guy.. so damn eager to get ur naka 6ch amp now bro zenn hahaha biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2010, 12:40 PM

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get la, only one unit left, siapa cepat dia dapat, hehe....
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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Apr 13 2010, 11:12 PM)
sifus out there, im so new to ICE.. recently got an Pioneer TS-W308D4 sub but my amp is not power enuf to maximise it's bass..
any pro sifus out there can recommend any mid range monoblock to drive this double magnet double coil to at least 90% of its capacity?
budget for the monoblock around rm1k++
pls advise  biggrin.gif
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sorry for the question,i using rampage 4 channel 500watts,can i bridge to 2 channel for a single coil extreme audio 12 " sub? i put the RCA L to channel 1, RCA R to channel 4...mind to help for this q...thankz
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normally if u bridge, it will bridge ch1+2 or Ch3+4..so ur rca should be 1&2 or 3&4 unless ur amp got some special config...

 

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