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post Apr 13 2010, 01:27 PM


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I read in shock some fellow muslim use kikkoman in his food. it contains alcohol. not all kicap is halal and read the below to make sure!

The naturally brewed soy sauce is made with soybeans, salt and wheat. The soybeans are steeped in water for 16 hours; then the soaked beans are dehulled and cooked. The beans mixed with wheat flour or grit are inoculated with fungi Aspergillus orzyae and incubated for three days with occasional stirring. This is called the Koji stage. The resulting material is mixed with brine. A ferment dominated by yeasts and lactic acid bacteria then develops, this being Mormi stage. After an incubation of one month to three years, a dark salty liquid with a pleasant savory aroma is drained from the fermentation vessel, clarified, pasteurized and packaged for sale. Yeast growth is vigorous during incubation period and the production of carbon dioxide indicates that an alcoholic fermentation is taking place. Typically, a full brewed soy sauce will contain between 1 and 2 % (V/V) ethanol. Due to the presence of 2% alcohol, a spirit duty is imposed on naturally brewed soy sauce in United Kingdom.

There are two kind of soy sauce is available in USA and Canada. One is naturally brewed soy sauce supplied by Kikkoman Company with 1.7% or more alcohol and the other is the acidified hydrolyzed soy protein soy sauce (All purpose Seasoning) by ConAgra's Company under LA Choy brand name. The Kikkoman Soy sauce (made with soybean, wheat and salt) is a haram product due to the presence of 1.7% or more alcohol. La Choy soy sauce is a halal soy sauce, which is made with water, hydrolyzed soy protein, corn syrup, caramel color and potassium sorbate with kosher symbol K.

Most Chinese restaurants use naturally brewed soy sauce in cooking the Chinese foods such as vegetable fried rice and also provide it in the bottles on the serving tables. Some Chinese restaurants also supply the soy sauce in small packets with ingredient list and have been found to contain acidified soy protein hydrolyzed soy sauce and not the haram soy sauce.

A Chinese restaurant on Devon Ave. in Chicago made Chinese food with zabiha meat but cooked with --- and supplied for table use--- haram soy sauce from Kikkoman Company.

Ask your Chinese Restaurant what Soy Sauce they use.

Muslims are advised to inquire about the use of Kikkoman soy sauce in preparation of Chinese foods such as vegetable fried rice and soy sauce supplied in bottles on serving tables.
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Sir, maybe can list down some Ketchup/Kicap that contains Alcohol notworthy.gif
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ok this is something new for me.

thanks for sharing!
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 13 2010, 01:27 PM)
Sir, maybe can list down some Ketchup/Kicap that contains Alcohol notworthy.gif
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Kikkoman salty and sweet soy sauce - Japanese import ones.
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:29 PM


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kikkoman tastes great. highly recommended.
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:30 PM


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does it contain enough alcohol to make one lose the function to think properly??
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:31 PM


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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:30 PM)
does it contain enough alcohol to make one lose the function to think properly??
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we prefer ganja.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:30 PM)
does it contain enough alcohol to make one lose the function to think properly??
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Dont push it dude. Alcohol is alcohol
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:30 PM)
does it contain enough alcohol to make one lose the function to think properly??
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Unless u r drinking the whole bottle of kicap?
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:34 PM


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Isn't "Non-alcoholic" beer the same ? As far as I know some non-alcoholic beer still have alcohol in them but in very small percentages. hmm.gif
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM


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thank you very much..
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM


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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Apr 13 2010, 01:32 PM)
Dont push it dude. Alcohol is alcohol
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if so abandon ur vanilla flavored food too since the extract is full of alcohol
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM


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Rut-beer...can drink or not??
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QUOTE(Kuroro @ Apr 13 2010, 01:34 PM)
Isn't "Non-alcoholic" beer the same ? As far as I know some non-alcoholic beer still have alcohol in them but in very small percentages. hmm.gif
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are you referring to short beer like Malta/Nutrimalt?
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:39 PM


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Now that you mentioned, what about those kicaps in Japanese restaurants? Different eh?
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:39 PM


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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM)
if so abandon ur vanilla flavored food too since the extract is full of alcohol
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Yeah, already did. Like sh*t oni coz i like vanilla.

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i dont use that brand.. Cap kepala udang wins whistling.gif

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post Apr 13 2010, 01:41 PM


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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 13 2010, 01:41 PM)
i  dont use that brand.. Cap kepala udang wins whistling.gif
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Jalen lagi best dude

rasa dia unik
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:41 PM)
Jalen lagi best dude

rasa dia unik
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Tamin FTW!!!
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:43 PM


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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Apr 13 2010, 01:35 PM)
are you referring to short beer like Malta/Nutrimalt?
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Nah... I mean those middle eastern beers kinda thing like ... barbican etc. I have no idea. Just wondering. By definition non-alcoholic beer still contain some slight amount of alcohol in them as far as I've read.
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:43 PM


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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:41 PM)
Jalen lagi best dude

rasa dia unik
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Care to elaborate UNIK???....
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:44 PM


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QUOTE(Kuroro @ Apr 13 2010, 01:43 PM)
Nah... I mean those middle eastern beers kinda thing like ... barbican etc. I have no idea. Just wondering. By definition non-alcoholic beer still contain some slight amount of alcohol in them as far as I've read.
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ya

1.7% or something
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:44 PM


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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 13 2010, 01:43 PM)
Care to elaborate UNIK???....
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taste bud differ

my liking may not be urs

although a lot of girls like to suck d***
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:45 PM


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I know japanese soya sauce do have alcohol most of the time
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:44 PM)
taste bud differ

my liking may not be urs

although a lot of girls like to suck d***
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So, its taste like d***???...you taste d*** before whistling.gif...
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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Apr 13 2010, 01:45 PM)
I know japanese soya sauce do have alcohol most of the time
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imports clearly labelled the alcohol content.
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:46 PM


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perfume oso got alcohol lah bro, pls dont make a big fuss
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:47 PM


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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 13 2010, 01:46 PM)
So, its taste like d***???...you taste d*** before whistling.gif...
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i think u misunderstood my post there

go kaji it back
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 13 2010, 01:46 PM)
So, its taste like d***???...you taste d*** before whistling.gif...
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i sucked before. LOLWUT.
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:47 PM)
i think u misunderstood my post there

go kaji it back
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Just joking..and i understand your post perfectly notworthy.gif...
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:50 PM


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dude if toooo worried even ur favourite kikkoman have '2%' alcohol ...then dont even bother cookin anything .. jst eat grass ... that 1 confirm no alcohol
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:55 PM


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During respiration, which also happens to plant by the way... some alcohol is/are excreted. so now whatcha gonna eat?
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no need la pretend u're a good Muslim
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:07 PM


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Kikoman is made in Singapore so does not contains any Alcohol.
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:12 PM


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looongg time ago i use cap kicap cap besta.. anyone remember?
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:17 PM


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rice also wat. ferment it & u get wine.
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:27 PM


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I know a lot of local producers like to accuse oversea products of being not halal to boost their sales.

On a side note, Kicap Cap Kipas Udang is the worst kicap, kthnxbye
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:27 PM


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tapai nasi, air tuak,
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:28 PM


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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Apr 13 2010, 01:47 PM)
i think u misunderstood my post there

go kaji it back
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skema gila
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:29 PM


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QUOTE(PVCpipe @ Apr 13 2010, 02:27 PM)
tapai nasi, air tuak,
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dont even dare call yourself muslim if u consider those stuff halal
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Omg,I lol cause I just saw the mamak use Kikkoman kicap when goreng mee just now.



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QUOTE(779364 @ Apr 13 2010, 02:35 PM)
Omg,I lol cause I just saw the mamak use Kikkoman kicap when goreng mee just now.
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mamak mana ada bajet nak pakai kicap Kikkoman, botol je kot?
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Apr 13 2010, 02:29 PM)
dont even dare call yourself muslim if u consider those stuff halal
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wat? only till some extend we cant eat them.... as for air tuak, if cant drink edi, people usually keep untill bcome vinegar
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:57 PM


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orang kampung je makan kicap ni. Hahahah
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The japanese soy sauce kicap for sushi normally made with alcohol


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lies, my friend is alcohol intolerant also can eat kikkoman.
liar ts
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This is so cool. They might start serving some alcohol drink called kicap in clubs.
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Mean Kicap on the rock satu!
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alcohol is haram........
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post Apr 13 2010, 03:12 PM


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Kicap Mudim Zakaria...

darah time bersunat diproses jadi kicap..
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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Apr 13 2010, 03:05 PM)
This is so cool. They might start serving some alcohol drink called kicap in clubs.
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shhhh...
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Kikkoman Soy Sauce is put in Tesco's Non-Halal section, so it must be true.
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ramly burger oso use kikomon le how ?? alot of ppl eat ramly
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Apr 13 2010, 02:29 PM)
dont even dare call yourself muslim if u consider those stuff halal
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tapai is halal

tapai pada usia 2 atau 3 hari ini adalah halal kerana ia bukan sesuatu yang memabukkan. Kalau minum / makan tapai dengan kuantiti banyak pun memang ia tidak memabukkan. Tapai pada usia ini iaitu 2 atau 3 hari hanya mengandungi sedikit kandungan alkohol etanol namun kandungan etanol dalam tapai

Apabila tapai pulut atau tapai ubi ini dibiarkan pada suhu bilik untuk beberapa hari lagi, lebih banyak karbohidrat kanji ditukarkan kepada glukos dan etanol. Tapai yang sudah berusia 6 hari rasanya walaupun manis namun terdapat rasa yang tidak enak dan rasa ini sebenarnya adalah disebabkan rasa etanol. Pada usia tapai 6 hari ini, kandungan etanol di dalam tapai boleh menjangkau lebih daripada 6 atau 7 peratus iaitu menyamai kandungan etanol di dalam bir. Sekiranya kita makan tapai ini bersama airnya dalam kuantiti satu gelas besar, insya-Allah muka akan menjadi warna kemerahan dan kepala mula pening dan inilah yang dikatakan MABUK. Pada tahap ini tapai yang asalnya adalah harus telah menjadi haram kerana ia memabukkan.
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QUOTE(tiket @ Apr 13 2010, 03:18 PM)
tapai is halal

tapai pada usia 2 atau 3 hari ini adalah halal kerana ia bukan sesuatu yang memabukkan. Kalau minum / makan tapai dengan kuantiti banyak  pun memang ia tidak memabukkan. Tapai pada usia ini iaitu 2 atau 3 hari hanya mengandungi sedikit kandungan alkohol etanol namun kandungan etanol dalam tapai

Apabila tapai pulut atau tapai ubi ini dibiarkan pada suhu bilik untuk beberapa hari lagi, lebih banyak karbohidrat kanji ditukarkan kepada glukos dan etanol. Tapai yang sudah berusia 6 hari rasanya walaupun manis namun terdapat rasa yang tidak enak dan rasa ini sebenarnya adalah disebabkan rasa etanol. Pada usia tapai 6 hari ini, kandungan etanol di dalam tapai boleh menjangkau lebih daripada 6 atau 7 peratus iaitu menyamai kandungan etanol di dalam bir. Sekiranya kita makan tapai ini bersama airnya dalam kuantiti satu gelas besar, insya-Allah muka akan menjadi warna kemerahan dan kepala mula pening dan inilah yang dikatakan MABUK. Pada tahap ini tapai yang asalnya adalah harus telah menjadi haram kerana ia memabukkan.
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rokok pun halal according to ulama malaysia
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QUOTE(ate @ Apr 13 2010, 03:22 PM)
rokok pun halal according to ulama malaysia
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er, they already fatwa'ed haram but there is no law prohibiting smoking for adult above 18.
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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Apr 13 2010, 03:24 PM)
er, they already fatwa'ed haram but there is no law prohibiting smoking for adult above 18.
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i think different mufti different opinion, i know its non halal in some place and halal in some place. Evertything sedeap is in the grey area now , 20 years from now i wont be surprised if alcohol is deemed a norm, just look at our muslim malay artiste and tv shows, in the tv its portrayed a norm.
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hmm ... if kicap got abit alcohol can eat, then food with abit of wine can eat oso? ... i mean for muslims
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patut la kicap sedap
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before the Dr give you an injection they will swap your skin with alcohol 1st, which get absorbs into the blood stream. So it's still halal ?
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Apr 13 2010, 04:10 PM)
before the Dr give you an injection they will swap your skin with alcohol 1st, which get absorbs into the blood stream. So it's still halal ?
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So suspicious meh...evrything also say got alcohol and pork in it...

What's next? Cooking oil might be made from pork?
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I think the more sickening fact is the ppl who care about the 1.7% alcohol. Seriously if you have study science you will know many things will more or less contains a bit of alcohol, if everything contains alcohol also cannot touch better move to Mars.

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haiya.. very kesian u ya.. so no more kikkoman for u.. by the way.. root beer should be ban as well as it contain beer.. beer=alcohol as well even though it contain 0 alcohol ..

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when trying Japanese food, becareful because most of them are non halal. mostly pork free
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QUOTE(vkeong @ Apr 13 2010, 05:26 PM)
when trying Japanese food, becareful because most of them are non halal. mostly pork free
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melei use HABHAL

its halal
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Vinegar also got alcohol, also non halal but used in preparing malay food.
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QUOTE(miahahaha @ Apr 13 2010, 01:27 PM)
Sir, maybe can list down some Ketchup/Kicap that contains Alcohol notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(aimank_88 @ Apr 13 2010, 01:32 PM)
Dont push it dude. Alcohol is alcohol
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Which is used in everything. Strepsils uses Alcohol.

The key definition is "whether it makes you drunk or is meant to make you drunk"
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lol what's the fuss.....
never heard of endogenous alcohol?
don't have to take alcohol to have alcohol in your body...
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oh shit.. i always love to eat japanese food.. i always go to sakae sushi and sushi zanmai eat.. and sushi king aso.. i am very sure they use kikkoman soy sauce.. SHIT.. i even bought from giant the kikoman soy sauce and make my own sushi... meaning all this while whole family eat haram.... SHIT BETUL !!!! how now? i dont know whether should i tell my family or not... if i dont tell they wont feel as bad as me now sad.gif
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still not as bad as using pig blood in cigarattes
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Apr 13 2010, 05:50 PM)
Which is used in everything. Strepsils uses Alcohol.

The key definition is "whether it makes you drunk or is meant to make you drunk"
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So it's ok if you drink in quantities which don't make you drunk?

Or regardless of whatever quantity, as long as it intended to you drunk, then it is haram?
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Aiyo come one lah. Everything also suspect got alcohol/pork. Why would they do that? So that they can force you to consume alcohol...then laugh evilly behind you?
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the air you breathes may contain alcohol yo.....since alcohol is an organic substance that evaporates easily
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QUOTE(angmoh @ Apr 13 2010, 06:05 PM)
oh shit.. i always love to eat japanese food.. i always go to sakae sushi and sushi zanmai eat.. and sushi king aso.. i am very sure they use kikkoman soy sauce.. SHIT.. i even bought from giant the kikoman soy sauce and make my own sushi... meaning all this while whole family eat haram.... SHIT BETUL  !!!! how now? i dont know whether should i tell my family or not... if i dont tell they wont feel as bad as me now sad.gif
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as far as i know , duno means not sin... but...for those who love japs food really gonna give up sushi & sashimi , bring own kicap?
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 13 2010, 06:39 PM)
as far as i know , duno means not sin... but...for those who love japs food really gonna give up sushi & sashimi , bring own kicap?
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sendiri punya kicap tak sedap.. lol
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as far as i know , duno means not sin... but...for those who love japs food really gonna give up sushi & sashimi , bring own kicap?
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no need to use kicap. thats how i enjoy it just put abit wasabi.


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i believe any muslim will at least consumed some non-halal stuffs in their entire life, be it intentionally or unintentionally...
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oh... i cant have sushi w/o the kicap provide or the sushi kicap i bought from isetan.. not kikoman, found some better taste brand... dunno halal or not , but am not muslim la...
actually, i dunno la... ur god will really punish u for having kicap with alcohol contain? better be a good person than worry aboyt so much lor...
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 13 2010, 01:41 PM)
i  dont use that brand.. Cap kepala udang wins whistling.gif
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makan kicap bole mabuk ke?
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Apr 13 2010, 06:47 PM)
oh... i cant have sushi w/o the kicap provide or the sushi kicap i bought from isetan.. not kikoman, found some better taste brand... dunno halal or not , but am not muslim la...
actually, i dunno la... ur god will really punish u for having kicap with alcohol contain? better be a good person than worry aboyt so much lor...
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ya lor.. worry so much for wat.. if altitude still do tak halal punya benda right, better be a good person, god judge u by how u behave in this world, if u did no harm to other , y is there wrong in the 1st place? better jus make smokin tak halal in the 1st place as it merosak badan dan teman terdekat anda

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not muslim la friends. malays actually.... they like to turn things more complicated... sometimes...errr most of the time. hehehe

if u wanna ban smoke, we should also banned softdrinks, fast food, etc. coz its also unhealthy
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hairspray got alcohol, antibacterial handwash got alcohol, listerine got alcohol. The list goes on...
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QUOTE(bonedragon @ Apr 13 2010, 07:41 PM)
hairspray got alcohol, antibacterial handwash got alcohol, listerine got alcohol. The list goes on...
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They will eventually think avoiding hairspray and listerine will bring them to heaven.
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i more worried if my alcohol got kicap..
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the air you breathe might contain evaporated alcohol too

what do?
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QUOTE(spanker @ Apr 13 2010, 06:13 PM)
So it's ok if you drink in quantities which don't make you drunk?

Or regardless of whatever quantity, as long as it intended to you drunk, then it is haram?
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Two prong in my view.

If it's meant to make you drunk. Haram.

If it's not meant to make you drunk. Quantity method.
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budurh. sape yang melantak kicap sebab nak mabuk, memang patut le masuk neraka. budurh kicap.
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adusss biar betul????
terbeli kicap kikkoman. sad.gif(((((((((
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QUOTE(Squidward @ Apr 13 2010, 01:27 PM)
I read in shock some fellow muslim use kikkoman in his food. it contains alcohol. not all kicap is halal and read the below to make sure!

The naturally brewed soy sauce is made with soybeans, salt and wheat. The soybeans are steeped in water for 16 hours; then the soaked beans are dehulled and cooked. The beans mixed with wheat flour or grit are inoculated with fungi Aspergillus orzyae and incubated for three days with occasional stirring. This is called the Koji stage. The resulting material is mixed with brine. A ferment dominated by yeasts and lactic acid bacteria then develops, this being Mormi stage. After an incubation of one month to three years, a dark salty liquid with a pleasant savory aroma is drained from the fermentation vessel, clarified, pasteurized and packaged for sale. Yeast growth is vigorous during incubation period and the production of carbon dioxide indicates that an alcoholic fermentation is taking place. Typically, a full brewed soy sauce will contain between 1 and 2 % (V/V) ethanol. Due to the presence of 2% alcohol, a spirit duty is imposed on naturally brewed soy sauce in United Kingdom.

There are two kind of soy sauce is available in USA and Canada. One is naturally brewed soy sauce supplied by Kikkoman Company with 1.7% or more alcohol and the other is the acidified hydrolyzed soy protein soy sauce (All purpose Seasoning) by ConAgra's Company under LA Choy brand name. The Kikkoman Soy sauce (made with soybean, wheat and salt) is a haram product due to the presence of 1.7% or more alcohol. La Choy soy sauce is a halal soy sauce, which is made with water, hydrolyzed soy protein, corn syrup, caramel color and potassium sorbate with kosher symbol K.

Most Chinese restaurants use naturally brewed soy sauce in cooking the Chinese foods such as vegetable fried rice and also provide it in the bottles on the serving tables. Some Chinese restaurants also supply the soy sauce in small packets with ingredient list and have been found to contain acidified soy protein hydrolyzed soy sauce and not the haram soy sauce.

A Chinese restaurant on Devon Ave. in Chicago made Chinese food with zabiha meat but cooked with --- and supplied for table use--- haram soy sauce from Kikkoman Company.

Ask your Chinese Restaurant what Soy Sauce they use.

Muslims are advised to inquire about the use of Kikkoman soy sauce in preparation of Chinese foods such as vegetable fried rice and soy sauce supplied in bottles on serving tables.
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hello.many other food contain alcohol too.even ubat batuk got -ol ending thing in it.
alcohol \= arak which called khamar.

the alcohol is not added into the sauce and the purpose of the process is to make soy sauce and not to make drunken material and the alcohol naturally formed by the yeast in it in fermentation process.

even tamai has alcohol,and y did people freely eat it?

sos: myself as chemist and this link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/halal_baik_enak/message/608

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http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/info.asp?y...ma&pg=ba_03.htm
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a manager of Sushi King (a Malay) informed me that the kicap they served is not halal. When I asked him to recommend any thing which is halal, he said he said 'susah nak cakap'.

As much I thanked him for the heads up, wonder why he works there knowing the non-halalness sweat.gif

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the manager also dun learn agama and think etanol is haram i guess
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is mirin halal then izutaisa?
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Blame it on the Jews as usual.

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mirin originate from liquor(sake) so ofcoz not halal
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arak itu alkohol tapi alkohol bukan arak
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QUOTE(ikan83 @ Jul 5 2010, 05:19 PM)
arak mengandungi alkohol tapi alkohol bukan arak
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mirin originate from liquor(sake) so ofcoz not halal
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then definitely sushi kin is not halal because they use mirin in their soy sauce and also on the food preparation.

without mirin your sushi will taste like those in tesco.
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