what's your planned "daily use"? size-wise its length fits nicely into my palm, but that's also why i don't find it an ideal everyday bring along. and it's not exactly lightweight. personally, my edc would ideally be something that's there when you need it but inconspicuous enough for everyday carry on. i reckon the thrunite ti3 would be my ideal edc but for the moment,  the t01 takes her place. i guess the u12 works well if you're a heavy user (regular daily use), but its size and weight doesn't make it an ideal proposition for me. except for the clicky switch, it does feel solidly built. i wonder how many open and close cycles the usb port cover can withstand before it completely detaches also. initially the diagram kinda gave me the feeling that only nuclear physicists would be able to figure out how to work through the different sequential modes... but surprisingly the ui is easy to work through, although admittedly needs some getting used to. the multiple clicks to run through the modes will also put additional strain on the switch as compared to holding the button to run through the different modes. but the illumination is pretty awesome. will try to take some field pics over the weekend for you to decide whether it's worth getting as your edc. tbh, it feels more like something i'd have in my glovebox rather than on my person. but again, that's just me...

by the way, u got you ep01? 

how much stuff u guys carry around la? torch, multitool, glass breaker...???

hahaha I own that tube too and it only fits max RM20
wished it fit like RM50 at least because a crunched up RM20 made every cashier cringe.

interesting selection. for my edc, i only have the ie3/t01 that doubles as my keychain. the victorinox classic is a nice add on... but knowing how forgetful i am, i'll probably forget that it's there and get it confiscated at the airport customs 

did consider getting the swisslite sometime ago... but again, knowing how forgetful i am, that battery's gonna leak for sure. the super tinker is my gotto multitool at home, and i've got the huntsman for the great outdoors. have one of those door gift multitools at the office and it's been serving me well thus far. compared to the victorinox, the blade is crap... but the screwdrivers/bottle openers work well so I'm good 

yeah, the penknives are pretty nifty tools... and they're extremely sharp! i once cut myself deeply without realising... until i saw the blood oozing out. and they maintain their sharpness very well too. the saw too short? what? you wanna saw down an entire tree?    works pretty well on branches. patience, my man... patience. takes a while but u'll finally get to it. what's the rush? 

lol... told you this thread was unadulterated poison. am thinking of getting the rambler as an edc, but weighing whether the extra tool is worth the rm46 premium over the classic

thanks for that bit of very useful info! you've definitely pushed me over the fence now 

so anybody here has the swisslite/signature lite? i'm guessing you don't get much juice out of the button battery... and it ain't gonna be bright enough for walkabout purposes. looks more like something you'd use to find the keyhole... or keys in your bag?

seeing as to how this is a thread for all things bright, just though i'd ask. why? because it's a two in one. if it gave out a decent light, then no need to be carrying a keychain light AND multitool. but yeah... seeing as to how nobody talks about it, kinda guess it's a pretty pathetic performer light-wise. never was a fan of the toothpick... but the tweezers do come in very handy removing prickly thorns, splinters and stingers 

yeah... we got a glimpse of your wingman in your earlier post 
curious... do the authorities allow the tactical pen onboard the plane? at least that doesn't look so out of place in the meeting room 
back to the thread... think i'll just skip the la10/lr12. an opaque water container over my light works just as well 

the e11 goes direct to strobe simply because it does not have a turbo mode. the u12 DOES have a turbo mode so double-click from off brings you to the turbo setting. but u12 runs on the 20700mah battery so it's not as versatile as the mk41 if you need to replace the battery. the mk41 is very slightly shorter than the u12 (7mm) but much chunkier in diameter (+13mmØ). so again, it's a personal preference, but here's my comparison in terms of top trumps:

versatility: mk41 (can use aa batteries)
luminence: u12 (but only because the 2000lm mode is always available. 2000lm is available for the the mk41 only if 14500 batteries are used)
endurance: u12 (at high 870lm, the u12 lasts 3hr. the mk41 on the other hand lasts 2hrs at 650/950lm)
length: mk41 (but not by much. mk41's is 105mm compared to u12's 112mm)
diameter: u12 (physically, the u12 is 31mm... a good 13mmØ smaller than mk41s)
distance: mk41 (520m vs u12's meagre 164m)
weight: u12 (118gms vs mk41's 191gm without batteries. the u12 will trump the mk41 even more fully loaded)

the u12 is a nice carry-on and personally, ideally shaped. that said, the mk41 was actually my first choice to make use of my flashlight batteries that were laying around. and whilst the oos fiasco kinda put paid my plans of getting the mk41, i reckon the 1.2v of my powerex 2700mah wouldn't have done justice to the mk41, which would have ideally run on the 14500's 3.7v instead. so until i get the itch to buy something else, i'm happy with the u12 :thumbsup:

my personal preference for my primary neutral white light of approx 2k lumens was endurance, and the u12 ticked that box. hence i was willing to overlook the tricky ui. if the ui is your primary concern, perhaps you could consider olight's r18pro. that was something i considered also...

11.11 sure makes me wanna get more stuff also... but i'm beginning to realise that my lights are being underutilized
i'm having the manker u12 with me at the moment, and it's a solid performer. the way i see it, the s1r turbo is really playing second fiddle these days. pity though... she's a solid performer also but the extra lumens do come in handy. may take advantage of 11.11 to get myself more swiss army knives instead!

well if we're into 18650 lights these are kinda meh.
but considering it being powerful for 2xaa it's definitely my current car light right now.
My P60 host with 2 cr123 is still working but it drains fast. Not sure why, maybe it is just malaysian heat killing the battery slowly.

there's an awkward sense of deja vu when it comes to my modest light collection. i used to have the problem of capturing light... i.e. what lens to bring along with me for my travels. through trial and error, the tamron 17-50 f/2.8 vc became my trusty companion of choice. problem solved. i've now created another headache... which light to bring along with me. either the i3e or t01 is always there with my keys... but i find myself alternating between the classy s1r turbo and rugged u12 as my primary illuminator (from my previous post, it depends on the type of travel... metro or country). so for now, i'm good. but everdying has also made me wonder... would a thrower be more useful in the great outdoors? i mean i see his point especially if you pair your throwers with a set of mo/binoculars. care to share what you guys use your throwers for?