The reviewer said flat top is OK so should be alright for us too.
I found Lumintop EDC05C on Taobao though.



This post has been edited by Justin.Loong: May 7 2019, 09:13 AM

Hello, may I ask where did you get your Nitecore TIP CRI? Seems like Gadgetworld does not carry them. Not quite sure which other sellers to look for this CRI version.

from gadgetworld... maybe u can ask them to try order one again?
cos usually i see they don't really restock older models.

I see. Well, they say won't replenish due to low demand. Bummer. Guess I have to look elsewhere or another light. Anyhow, thanks for sharing

I was a lil sad as I tried to order from banggood and it went out of stock right after I paid.
Now have to wait 29th june to restock/ship

Hello guys. Need some recommendations for a Floody neutral white headlamp with around 1000 lumen max (I don't mind higher lumens though).

Did some research for the past few weeks, originally wanted to go for Nitecore HC30w, but saw some pic of beamshots that it's slightly throwy in my opinion. Did more digging and most recommend Zebralight for floody headlamps, but as far as I know there's no local supplier and that they seem to be quite pricy.

Then someone recommended Eagletac / Sportac DH10LC2, which currently is the best choice for me. But still would like to have more recommendations & options before making a decision. Pls share your recommendations. Thank you

Is local supplier a must in your needs? Because I know a particular light that fits your floody needs
Skilhunt H03F

Uses a classic XM-L2 LED but there's an option of neutral white and a flip cover for both flood and throw if ever needed.
Pretty famous headlamp in the blf forum. And the price should save you some bucks for spare accesories if needed.
Zebralight is a tad pricy in my range haha.

Can get it at banggood. There are more headlamp options from Skilhunt if you don't like the flip diffuser

This is a very Interesting suggestion! Thank you! The price range I think is about the same as the Eagletac that I was eyeing, but this offers more features.

Having a local supplier has the advantage that I can probably go and test the product out before buying. Especially to see the beam which I pay particular attention to. Of course, plus the usually risk of ordering stuff overseas and warranty all those stuff.

Will try to look around for more options and also to think this carefully. Many thanks

Guys, on this flood light topic, may I have some recommendations on flood flashlight?

I am searching for one to use as EDC BUT I want something like the size of Fenix TK20R.

I was looking at this: Klarus Mi1C Ti Titanium CREE XP-L HI LED 600L Rechargeable Flashlight then only I realized that LED flashlight also can have flood beam instead of throw beam.. Newbee.

I was checking out in Nitecore website but the best they have is only TIP2.

Any advise where to bring it in also?

I am also a new to this but maybe you can check out Jaxman E2L with 3 LED in front. The beam seems flood-ish which might fit your needs (Available at Aliexpress I think).

Another idea is just getting a diffuser for your throw light, but that might or might not fit your needs considering you need to carry another item.

Jaxman E2L is a bit premium for what it offers. Maybe if you really need the hi CRI LEDs then go with Jaxman E2L. It also has the frosted TIR too.
But I personally find the Manker E14 or the Astrolux S41 would be a better price for the performance (Hi drain batteries only!)
Both lights comes with Nichia hi CRI option too

If you don't mind a classic technology with modern LEDs, KDLitker E6 with a SST20 triple P60 module would fit MyWifeCar needs for the fenix form factor
KDLitker E6 host
P60 triple module

Lesser power compared to the manker or astrolux but a bigger body is definitely a more comfy grip

Do note that it has no tactical forward switch for momentary on so choose wisely.

Thanks for sharing I also just recently discovered flashlight mods, especially the Convoy S2+. All the parts and options, oh my, like opening a can of poison.

Just to ask for opinions, I am actually trying finding a torch that is similar to 3M's Sun Gun (with uses a solux bulb instead of LED), but I don't want to DIY that Coz I prefer LED lights (much cooler looking ). So that means Floody light with color temperature of 4700k (so probably is neutral white) with around 1000 lumens max, high CRI is a great bonus. Any lights to recommend please?

In my research I tried to search based on color temp, but most websites / brand do not give exact specs for color temp (kelvin), except for websites like Fasttech, Aliexpress, banggood, etc, which surprisingly they usually give a range for color temp for lights they sell (example : 4000k ~ 4500k). Can I trust the spec they give? Tried looking at CREE's datasheet but too technical for me to understand (I am still very new to this, only started like 1 month ago. Haha).

This was a tint comparison done 2 years ago for various lights. To date, for the task of colour comparison like the purpose built 3M Sun Gun II, only custom light builders and the exception of XTAR D08 (Nichia NV4W144AMT), none has come close to to the tint-less, accurate colour reproduction quality of Nichia 183 5000K, many has settled or prefer the 4000-4500K Nichia 219b/c but IMO they tend to overly compensate in the Red spectrum.

One can easily turn a throw light into a flood light by putting a good diffuser film on the front. For outdoor illumination, I like to shine my thousand-ish lumen light to a piece of white T-Shirt/table cloth and have a nice panel light illuminating a wide area.

If your main objective is colour reproduction, you should head over to BLF and check out some modders who can help you with 5000-5500K High CRI LED options.

A hairdryer styled light is rare and I don't think you have any options.
You might have a higher chance with HID gun light but usually those are spotlights.

If you are fine with convoy S2+, Simon from Convoy Aliexpress can customize some lights for you if you message him.
If not just pick some of his variants. Like their Convoy with Luminus SST-20 Neutral white variants.
Or the classic XM-L2 T6 4C for your 4000K tint


Use this guide that toykeeper from BLF forum made. You can search your favorite CREE LED tints based on this code.

The common LEDs in your tint choice are 3B and 4C. But the smaller XP-G2 leds have weird tints like 5A1 n such.
I once purchased a 7A tint and boy it's orange like old school tungsten filament bulb orange

Many thanks to RookieDaddy & power911 for replying and sharing

Just to share, my use case is not actually colour reproduction (tho they are nice to have), it's actually for paint inspection for auto detailers (different from painters), in other words, for checking car paint for scratches, micro-marring, etc.

I mentioned the sun gun because a lot of detailers DIY their own sun gun as they found it good for paint inspection, hence I try to find 4700k LED light because they say that's what is used in the sun gun. Some other lights that detailers use are Scangrip lights, and some penlight by Rupes (polishing machine brand). So basically I try to find out their specs and look for torches with similar specs.

My research indicates I will probably need different temperature lights (probably ranging from cool white to neutral white) for darker or light colour cars, and some even suggest different colour temperature are better at spotting different scratches (deep or shallow scratches). I have yet to determine whether throwy or floody beams are suitable for my task but I presume floody are better because throw lights will probably be too harsh on the eyes (due to reflection of beam on the paint).

RookieDaddy, the XTAR D08 you mentioned is quite an interesting torch, amazed at how floody it is.

power911, I don't actually prefer a hairdryer styles light. I much more prefer EDC styled pockable lights and those 90 degrees headlamps. Thanks for sharing the guide, it is very useful.

I did thought about getting Convoy S2+ because of how customisable they are. Just pick the LED with the colour temp I want, then I can customise the optics and lens to fit my needs.

Thou I must say that I am still tempted to get the Skilhunt H03F you recommended as an EDC light.. a lot of features for the price.

abit of an unusual recommendation here... but since that is ur requirements... how about those video led lights?
some have variable temperature control from 3000-5500 etc...
it's probably similar to the larger ones that u see in car workshops mounted on tripods etc... just that the video leds are of cos much smaller and portable.

A very interesting recommendation indeed. Never thought about this before, definately not common in the detailing world. I can see how useful this can be for detailing but of course more research is needed. Thank you for the recommendation

Spent sometime thinking to get either Sportac DH10LC2 or Skilhunt H03F, In the end I went ahead and ordered a Skilhunt due to it's versatility and having more feature for lower price. Some sites point out colour temp is around 4000k ~ 5000k range which is what I am looking for. Just a bit worried about the diffuser beam which some say is a bit donut shaped, but then again I maybe am overthinking it.

I think I spent too much time & energy trying to look for the perfect light for my needs that I am somewhat exhausted mentally eventhough I must say it's addictive. Realised instead of trying to find the perfect light now, maybe this is more of a trial & error kind of journey to find the suitable lights. So I am just gonna get the Skilhunt and see how it goes for there.

Again thank you all for your help Maybe I can share some pics of the Skilhunt once it arrives.

WOW ... This suddenly open up my eyes on torchlight.

1. Is this KDLitker drop resistant and waterproof? I couldn't find it written anywhere in the webpage.
2. I have never bought anything from Aliexpress before, will the item arrives?
3. If I prefer to go for those that are "focusable", how reliable is the dial ring? For example Fenix FD41.

1. KDLitker should be drop and water resistant. Same here. No source but judging by the simple design and the o-rings, it should be submerge proof. Don't go diving.
Drop resistant is a hit or miss. The P60 module is based on Surefire weapon lights so it has to be very extreme shockproof but LED complicate things so it may get loose over time and needed maintenance.

I have several P60 based lights (like cheapo wf502b, Seraph SP6) and they all does waterproof and drops very well.
My issue with some P60 module is that the spring isn't stiff or long enough so sometimes head bumps can make it change modes. (I swapped my springs to a stiffer one)


2. Aliexpress is definitely a hit or miss chinese site. Buying from chinese is always a gamble.
But worry not as this seller LHT Flashlight store is trusted and they usually take up to 2 months to reach your doorstep.
(If you want you can visit their main shop Kaidomain for cheaper prices)

3. Focusable lights tend to do double work but fail at doing double work.
It is either Flood or Spot but never both. so if you flood you'll have a wall of light. Have it on spot and you can see far but you are blind on close range.
A common reflector would do both easily without sacrifice. You do lose waterproofness when you go focus lights.
Maglite and LED Lenser was never waterproof or dustproof. Only rain resistant.
You can try Sipik SK68 as a toy around flashlight to experience it though.

Fenix FD41 is a special case for adjustable lights but they were never really praised despite having good performance and quality waterproof ratings.

Bro, one light ain't enough.
I am using Fotodiox Pro LED-312DS. Good video light with variable temperature (And an LCD screen to accurately calibrate tint and brightness to your needs)
A bit pricy as it is for video but I can say the small sony rechargeable battery can last you half a day on full brightness. Buy bigger f mount batteries I think you can use till tomorrow

This post has been edited by power911: Jun 10 2019, 10:47 PM

Sabar la... it will come soon. Lol...