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TScommunist892003
post Apr 12 2010, 01:00 PM, updated 16y ago

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If something is not able to be calculated , is it because we are not capable to ?? I'm poor in maths, but somehow i always judge based on my subjective thought, and to my amazement sometimes it seem my qualitative judgment could reach cohesiveness with qualitative judgment. For instance i always reach similar conclusion in decision making with others people who use quantitative approach such as marketing research, football possesion, and marking scheme on debaters without marking quantitatively on them.

Perhaps somehow Love could be calculated but due to our human's intelligence limitation, it could not achieved. What do you guys think???

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post Apr 12 2010, 03:58 PM

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Communist you should read again what you wrote. I am confuse. What is your point. Qualitative is the way to go if you are bad in math? It will get the same result as quantitative method. This is what you thtle this thread. Or Can love be measured?
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post Apr 12 2010, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(faceless @ Apr 12 2010, 04:58 PM)
Communist you should read again what you wrote. I am confuse. What is your point. Qualitative is the way to go if you are bad in math? It will get the same result as quantitative method. This is what you thtle this thread. Or Can love be measured?
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Nop, i use qualitative approach more than quantitative because i just don't had the mind. Not to said get the same result. Well, if u don't get it, is fine with me.
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post Apr 12 2010, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Apr 12 2010, 04:08 PM)
Nop, i use qualitative approach more than quantitative because i just don't had the mind. Not to said get the same result. Well, if u don't get it, is fine with me.
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NEVER say you don't have the mind. No one needs to be a statistics expert, but the basics are pretty simple to understand. I think you are basing this question more on a philosophical angle am I right? Well based on your statement that you have got your qualitative thoughts spot on the same as those that use a quantitative approach, that could probably be explained by the type of person you are. A well reasoned person.

From a research perspective, qualitative methods are not enough. They are often fine for an exploratory study(kind of a preliminary study of something) but for a hypothesis to be proven true you must use quantitative methods.

It's what I call informative guesswork. It can be true, but to prove it, you need to quantify it. You can use thing like the likert scale(the agree, strongly agree type of questionnaires) to try to quantify a qualitative/subjective matter. This is the stuff social science is based on.


As for your question on how to quantify love, you can't. That is too general and too wide. To find meaningful data you need to be more specific, reduce something to one or two variables. So that it can be measured more accurately.

For instance if I come up with a hypothesis that 'paternal love causes children to develop mentally(academically speaking) faster', now this can be measured and the hypothesis can be proven to be true or false. This is just an example of course.

PS : Of course in certain fields, certain other research methods are more meaningful than the typical statistics. Like observation and lab experiments. But quantitative methods are still good to support a theory.

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post Apr 12 2010, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(frags @ Apr 12 2010, 05:49 PM)
NEVER say you don't have the mind. No one needs to be a statistics expert, but the basics are pretty simple to understand. I think you are basing this question more on a philosophical angle am I right? Well based on your statement that you have got your qualitative thoughts spot on the same as those that use a quantitative approach, that could probably be explained by the type of person you are. A well reasoned person.

From a research perspective, qualitative methods are not enough. They are often fine for an exploratory study(kind of a preliminary study of something) but for a hypothesis to be proven true you must use quantitative methods.

It's what I call informative guesswork. It can be true, but to prove it, you need to quantify it. You can use thing like the likert scale(the agree, strongly agree type of questionnaires) to try to quantify a qualitative/subjective matter. This is the stuff social science is based on.
As for your question on how to quantify love, you can't. That is too general and too wide. To find meaningful data you need to be more specific, reduce something to one or two variables. So that it can be measured more accurately.

For instance if I come up with a hypothesis that 'paternal love causes children to develop mentally(academically speaking) faster', now this can be measured and the hypothesis can be proven to be true or false. This is just an example of course.

PS : Of course in certain fields, certain other research methods are more meaningful than the typical statistics. Like observation and lab experiments. But quantitative methods are still good to support a theory.
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Basically what i wan to know is something that cannot be quantify instead qualify refer as wat?? Or everything can be quantify, just that we are not capable to do so??
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post Apr 12 2010, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Apr 12 2010, 05:59 PM)
Basically what i wan to know is something that cannot be quantify instead qualify refer as wat?? Or everything can be quantify, just that we are not capable to do so??
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sometimes researcher can quantify a lot of things..If you have never come across it, doesn't mean it can't be done. I've seen research papers arguing about the effect of garlic on vampires with statistical analysis...The abstract can be found in pubmed...hard to believe? believe it..scientist can sometimes be very imaginative and creative...
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post Apr 12 2010, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Apr 12 2010, 05:59 PM)
Basically what i wan to know is something that cannot be quantify instead qualify refer as wat?? Or everything can be quantify, just that we are not capable to do so??
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which has more brand recognition, coke, or apple?
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post Apr 12 2010, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 12 2010, 09:00 PM)
which has more brand recognition, coke, or apple?
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Coke...Yeah, Yeah...something like tat
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post Apr 12 2010, 08:57 PM

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As usual,i never understand what is TS trying to say.
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post Apr 12 2010, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 12 2010, 09:57 PM)
As usual,i never understand what is TS trying to say.
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As usual, still had hard feeling with me biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2010, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Apr 12 2010, 08:49 PM)
Coke...Yeah, Yeah...something like tat
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by how much?
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post Apr 13 2010, 12:49 AM

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Yes. Everything can be calculated.
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post Apr 13 2010, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Apr 13 2010, 12:49 AM)
Yes. Everything can be calculated.
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love should be calculated using what unit?
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post Apr 13 2010, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 13 2010, 01:42 AM)
love should be calculated using what unit?
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As ts had pointed out. We dont know yet.

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post Apr 13 2010, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 13 2010, 01:29 AM)
by how much?
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Wait another Einstein who good in marketing skill to tell us. Like some said, we dono yet.

Something cross my mind recently, a wise man always tell me don't judge people based on their results or marks....Because That does not refer to their true capability. So, sometimes quantitative measurement do have their flaw. brows.gif

Politics had been one of the major factor in shaping our civilization. And politics mean wise in decision making. But how do we calculated political stuff??

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post Apr 13 2010, 05:28 PM

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It has to be specific, because political stuff is many depending on which political topic are we focus on. Like in political science, if we are using democracy then it's calculated based on the ppl's majority.
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post Apr 13 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(communist892003 @ Apr 13 2010, 04:17 PM)
Something cross my mind recently, a wise man always tell me don't judge people based on their results or marks....Because That does not refer to their true capability. So, sometimes quantitative measurement do have their flaw.  brows.gif
If test results fail to show a person's true capability, the flaw is in the test.

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post Apr 14 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(teongpeng @ Apr 13 2010, 02:00 AM)
As ts had pointed out. We dont know yet.
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why such a strong stance in "everything can be calculated" then?
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post Apr 14 2010, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Apr 14 2010, 12:26 AM)
why such a strong stance in "everything can be calculated" then?
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because everything eventualy can? rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 14 2010, 08:31 AM

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just use qualitative software (Nvivo) or quantitative software (SPSS) to help you interpret what ever the phenomenon of research question.

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