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TSsheldonyong
post Apr 11 2010, 02:57 PM, updated 16y ago

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Erm just a little confuse about what's the difference between u1, u1j, u1G and U1H? ( Is the G or H thing means where r they made from?)

If yes can pls state down where r they from?


How can i differentiate where r they made from example from japan and Indonesia ?
(whats the code for japan made pianos ?)
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post Apr 11 2010, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Apr 11 2010, 02:57 PM)
Erm just a little confuse about what's the difference between u1, u1j, u1G and U1H? ( Is the G or H thing means where r they made from?)

If yes can pls state down where r they from?
How can i differentiate where r they made from example from japan and Indonesia ?
(whats the code for japan made pianos ?)
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Hi there! Glad to see you here again.

Hers are the answers to your questions:

Erm just a little confuse about what's the difference between u1, u1j, u1G and U1H? ( Is the G or H thing means where r they made from?)
- G,H, are the models which will be the year of production
If yes can pls state down where r they from? - now Yamaha piano are made in Japan and China
How can i differentiate where r they made from example from japan and Indonesia ? - You can know by checking on the serial number.
(whats the code for japan made pianos ?)
there are some serial numbers you can determine.

To summarize it, all piano have serial number. You can check on the website on where it is made on the serial number.

If there is anything else, please email me at peterh@live.com.my.


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post Apr 11 2010, 11:04 PM

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Added on April 12, 2010, 9:02 am
QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Apr 11 2010, 02:57 PM)
Erm just a little confuse about what's the difference between u1, u1j, u1G and U1H? ( Is the G or H thing means where r they made from?)
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they represent different versions which include different scaling, construction and cosmetics. yeah.... they pretty confusing to consumers also dealers.... another maker from Japan, Kawai used to have even more models for a similar height piano. not only it is confusing to consumers but even to their own distributors.. today, many farny models number/prefix have been consolidated and easy to be recongnized.... then again there are still models which are confusing to consumers. most of the time the model(s) of a similar size represent different scaling, construction and cosmetics, as stated above.


Added on April 12, 2010, 9:02 am
QUOTE(sheldonyong @ Apr 11 2010, 02:57 PM)
How can i differentiate where r they made from example from japan and Indonesia ?
(whats the code for japan made pianos ?)
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with prefix J such as JU, JX, U1J => Indonesia
before taiwan factory was closed with prefix YT => Taoyuan Hsien Taiwan (also applies to prefix M and P)
with prefix T => cabinet from Taiwan and assembly in USA (taiwan factory is ady closed. with prefix P from Thomaston)
with prefix M, P and T => Thomaston USA. However in 2007 Thomaston factory is also closed.
without prefix as above U1 = Japan
with prefix H = Hangzhou in China (also applies to prefix CN, P and T)

This post has been edited by jhp: Apr 12 2010, 09:08 AM
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post Apr 12 2010, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(jhp @ Apr 12 2010, 12:04 AM)

Added on April 12, 2010, 9:02 am

they represent different versions which include different scaling, construction and cosmetics. yeah.... they pretty confusing to consumers also dealers.... another maker from Japan, Kawai used to have even more models for a similar height piano. not only it is confusing to consumers but even to their own distributors.. today, many farny models number/prefix have been consolidated and easy to be recongnized.... then again there are still models which are confusing to consumers. most of the time the model(s) of a similar size represent different scaling, construction and cosmetics, as stated above.


Added on April 12, 2010, 9:02 am

with prefix J such as JU, JX, U1J => Indonesia
before taiwan factory was closed with prefix YT => Taoyuan Hsien Taiwan (also applies to prefix M and P)
with prefix T => cabinet from Taiwan and assembly in USA (taiwan factory is ady closed. with prefix P from Thomaston)
with prefix M, P and T => Thomaston USA. However in 2007 Thomaston factory is also closed.
without prefix as above U1 = Japan
with prefix H = Hangzhou in China (also applies to prefix CN, P and T)
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Owh.. So u mean with out any addons like U1 is from japan?
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post Apr 12 2010, 03:41 PM

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Pianos Manufactured
in
Hamamatsu, Japan
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Year of Serial Number
Manufacture
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Jan-00 5868000 5860000
Jun-00 5892000 5874000
Jan-01 5928000 5913000
Jun-01 5949000 5933000
Jan-02 5978000 5963000
Jun-02 5993000 5986000
Jan-03 6021000 6019000
Jun-03 6043500 6041500
Jan-04 6066000 6064000
Jun-04 6088000 6086500


Pianos Manufactured in
Thomaston, GA
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Year of Serial Number
Manufacture
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Jan-00 251146
Jul-00 258968
Jan-01 265755
Jul-01 271465
Jan-02 275258
Jul-02 280155
Jan-03 283503
Jul-03 289802
Jan-04 294877
Jul-04 299405

Pianos Manufactured
in
South Haven, MI
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Year of Serial Number
Manufacture
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1974 U101000
1975 U102000
1976 U107000
1977 U110000
1978 U117000
1979 U124000
1980 U132000
1981 U141000
1982 U150000
1983 U160000
1984 U167000
1985 U174000
1986 U186000

Pianos Manufactured
in
Jakarta, Indonesia
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Year of Serial Number
Manufacture
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Jan-00 1700000
Jan-01 1800000
Jan-02 1900000
Jan-03 2000000
Jan-04 2100000


These are the updated list from yamaha on the serial number to determine where it is made.

Yamaha Pianos have been manufactured in 4 locations:
1) Hamamatsu, Japan
2) Thomaston, Georgia
3) South Haven, Michigan
4) Jakarta, Indonesia

As a result, there are four different serial number ranges for Yamaha pianos.

If the serial number begins with a "T", the piano was manufactured in Thomaston, Georgia. If your grand piano is a GH1G, GH1FP, GC1G, or GC1FP, your piano was manufactured in Thomaston, Georgia.

If the serial number begins with a "U", the piano was manufactured in South Haven, Michigan.

If your grand piano is a GA1E, DGA1E, GB1, or DGB1, your piano was manufactured in Jakarta, Indonesia.

If your piano is any other grand piano it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan.

If your upright piano is taller than 45" it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan.

If your upright piano is 45" or shorter and has seven numbers in the serial number, it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan after January, 1970

If you need any more information you can email me at peterh@live.com.my.


Added on April 12, 2010, 3:48 pmAdditional facts

Today Yamaha has manufacturing facilities at:
Kemble in U.K. since 1986
Hangzhou in China since 2003 ("H" serial prefix)
Xiaoshan in China since 1997
Taoyuan Hsien in Taiwan since 1969 ("YT" serial prefix)
Hamamatsu in Japan
Kakegawa in Japan since 1965
Iwata in Japan since 1966

Here is the line up of products distriubted:
M460, M560, P660 series are built in Taiwan.
CN116, P22, T118 series are built in China.
T121, U1, YUS1, U3, YUS3, YUS5 are built in Japan.
GB1 built in Indonisia
All the rest of the grands in Japan

I am told that some manufacturing is being phased out of Hamamatsu to expanded facilities in Kakegawa over time.

Yamaha had a joint venture factory with Pearl River in Guangzhou, China from 1995 - 2007. They build one model only to ship to U.S., the UP-125M1. I was told they built other models for far east distribution.

Yamaha's factory in Thomaston, GA, U.S. was closed March 2007. That factory built M425, M500, P600, T116, and P22 series instruments


Added on April 12, 2010, 7:58 pmSheldon have you check with your parents on the type of piano that you want. Particularly on the brand and budget. Please let me know when you have discuss with your parents

This post has been edited by ml888: Apr 12 2010, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(ml888 @ Apr 12 2010, 03:41 PM)
Sheldon let me show you how you see.

Pianos Manufactured
in
Hamamatsu, Japan
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Year of                              Serial Number
Manufacture
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jan-00                      5868000 5860000
Jun-00                      5892000 5874000
Jan-01                      5928000 5913000
Jun-01                      5949000 5933000
Jan-02                      5978000 5963000
Jun-02                      5993000 5986000
Jan-03                      6021000 6019000
Jun-03                      6043500 6041500
Jan-04                      6066000 6064000
Jun-04                      6088000 6086500
Pianos Manufactured in
Thomaston, GA
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Year of                          Serial Number
Manufacture
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jan-00                      251146
Jul-00                      258968
Jan-01                      265755
Jul-01                      271465
Jan-02                      275258
Jul-02                      280155
Jan-03                      283503
Jul-03                      289802
Jan-04                      294877
Jul-04                      299405

Pianos Manufactured
in
South Haven, MI
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Year of                  Serial Number 
Manufacture
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1974                      U101000
1975                      U102000
1976                      U107000
1977                      U110000
1978                      U117000
1979                      U124000
1980                      U132000
1981                      U141000
1982                      U150000
1983                      U160000
1984                      U167000
1985                      U174000
1986                      U186000

Pianos Manufactured
in
Jakarta, Indonesia
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Year of              Serial Number
Manufacture
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jan-00                  1700000
Jan-01                  1800000
Jan-02                  1900000
Jan-03                  2000000
Jan-04                  2100000


These are the updated list from yamaha on the serial number to determine where it is made.

Yamaha Pianos have been manufactured in 4 locations:
1) Hamamatsu, Japan
2) Thomaston, Georgia
3) South Haven, Michigan
4) Jakarta, Indonesia

As a result, there are four different serial number ranges for Yamaha pianos.

If the serial number begins with a "T", the piano was manufactured in Thomaston, Georgia. If your grand piano is a GH1G, GH1FP, GC1G, or GC1FP, your piano was manufactured in Thomaston, Georgia.

If the serial number begins with a "U", the piano was manufactured in South Haven, Michigan.

If your grand piano is a GA1E, DGA1E, GB1, or DGB1, your piano was manufactured in Jakarta, Indonesia.

If your piano is any other grand piano it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan.

If your upright piano is taller than 45" it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan.

If your upright piano is 45" or shorter and has seven numbers in the serial number, it was manufactured in Hamamatsu, Japan after January, 1970

If you need any more information you can email me at peterh@live.com.my.


Added on April 12, 2010, 3:48 pmAdditional facts

Today Yamaha has manufacturing facilities at:
Kemble in U.K. since 1986
Hangzhou in China since 2003 ("H" serial prefix)
Xiaoshan in China since 1997
Taoyuan Hsien in Taiwan since 1969 ("YT" serial prefix)
Hamamatsu in Japan
Kakegawa in Japan since 1965
Iwata in Japan since 1966

Here is the line up of products distriubted:
M460, M560, P660 series are built in Taiwan.
CN116, P22, T118 series are built in China.
T121, U1, YUS1, U3, YUS3, YUS5 are built in Japan.
GB1 built in Indonisia
All the rest of the grands in Japan

I am told that some manufacturing is being phased out of Hamamatsu to expanded facilities in Kakegawa over time.

Yamaha had a joint venture factory with Pearl River in Guangzhou, China from 1995 - 2007. They build one model only to ship to U.S., the UP-125M1. I was told they built other models for far east distribution.

Yamaha's factory in Thomaston, GA, U.S. was closed March 2007. That factory built M425, M500, P600, T116, and P22 series instruments


Added on April 12, 2010, 7:58 pmSheldon have you check with your parents on the type of piano that you want. Particularly on the brand and budget. Please let me know when you have discuss with your parents
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hi Ml88, ---- I'm planning to buy used piano its M1A yamaha serial numbers 1104607. i dont have any idea what age it was. the dealer told me it was imported from japan. please help me if im going to buy it or not? or should i buy yamaha U1e serial number 568109 used piano still i don't have any idea with regards to the age, same with M1A which was imported by japan. please help.
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QUOTE(allaine @ Feb 26 2012, 01:01 AM)
hi Ml88, ----  I'm planning to buy used piano its M1A yamaha serial numbers 1104607. i dont have any idea what age it was. the dealer told me it was imported from japan. please help me if im going to buy it or not? or should i buy yamaha U1e serial number 568109 used piano still i don't have any idea with regards to the age, same with M1A which was imported by japan. please help.
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frankly... dont waste money on these junks, M1A ~ 1970 and U1 ~ 1967... for the money you will be better wif new comparing to a used japanese, the quality new chinese piano would be a better choice than a 20,30,40,year old Yamaha...

This post has been edited by jhp: Feb 27 2012, 08:19 PM
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a good digital piano will sound better than a crappy upright or a small grand piano
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I am looking for a used Yamaha U2 piano, i got one which looks pretty new and its serial number is : H 2418327, how do i know how many years is this piano and where it is made from ?
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Feb 28 2012, 10:59 AM)
a good digital piano will sound better than a crappy upright or a small grand piano
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zzzxtreme, you're a joker, aren't you? unsure.gif

(ok, pardon for the late respond, but still...)
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post May 2 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(dummies @ May 1 2012, 01:39 PM)
I am looking for a used Yamaha U2 piano, i got one which looks pretty new and its serial number is : H 2418327, how do i know how many years is this piano and where it is made from ?
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Hey dummies,
On the record stated that was manufactured in Japan in 1977. If there is anything else, just PM me. Thank you
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no im not kidding


a good digital piano WILL sound better than a CRAPPY upright or cheap grand piano

same can be said with a GOOD upright piano will sound WAY BETTER than a cheap baby grand
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ May 2 2012, 01:59 PM)
a good digital piano WILL sound better than a CRAPPY upright or cheap grand piano

same can be said with a GOOD upright piano will sound WAY BETTER than a cheap baby grand
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thanks for clarifying that. generally agreed with you though, but still they're apples and oranges if digital vs acoustic though.

 

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