Hi guys, let me keep this as simple as possible:

I have finally decided to go with plasma due to it having superior performances in almost everything as compared to a conventional LCD. Also, I am viewing from a dimly lit air-con room so reflections and heat aren't problems. Plus I've heard burn-ins have been reduced for the models nowadays so it's no longer an issue.

1.) Using it to play PS3 games as well as HD movie and series viewing, including blue-rays.
2.) Budget is from 4 to 5k, cannot stretch more.
3.) Prefer 50" as I am greedy. Viewing distance is about 6 to 7 feet. Overkill?
4.) Heard that Panny is the best. But open to other brands.

Please give me your recommendations guys. Thanks!!

This post has been edited by CloudDave: Apr 10 2010, 01:07 PM

Bro, chip in a bit more $$$ for a Pioneer 508XG and don't look back

How much is that? Need installment plan hahahaah if not out of budget!

Not sure what the current market price is but try contacting some of the owners here to get a better idea.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1340204

Good luck!

Pioneer is around 8K or so. 50" Panasonic plasma about 5k + is very good already.

I've got the Pio 508x and can tell u that it'll smoke most of the entry to mid level full hd tvs in the market now.

But beware of the latest bunch of Plasma, each manufacturer seem to have some kidda issue ! Pana seem to have floating black level issue and Samsung some serious IR problems . Just going by other users here and in avs.

How much is the cheapest Kuro 50" plasma?Is yours Full HD...and does Kuro has issues such as burn in?

7k Budget

Saw Senq queensbaymall penang got 1 kuro 508 display units selling at 7k.

nope, mine is the 768p version but as I mentioned earlier still smokes many of the current 1080p panels IMHO
Bought mine back in 2008 and never once have I seen an IR ( image burn-in ) on this Panel .

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 10 2010, 10:19 PM

Compared to my other Sammy PDP, there is virtually no image retention especially after watching channels such as 8TV or Astro programs (the ones with their static logos at the upper right corner)

My Sammy tends to have a bit of image retention. Though it disappears over time, thanks to the anti burn-in technology, it still bugs me

Agree with Kalido, though not Full HD, PQ is still way ahead of the rest of the newer breeds of Full HD alternatives out there.

Besides, KURO's black levels have no equals in the market today

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Added on April 10, 2010, 11:11 pmBest to fork out a few extra $$$ to get a brand new unit.

Don't believe display unit comes with warranty



This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 10 2010, 11:11 PM

Harvey is selling new 508XG at RM9k. Not sure still got any left over or not.

Someone quoted can get KRP500 at RM11.9k @ KL. Let me know if someone is selling that price @ Penang.

I'm considering the LED 55"B7000 with 508XG. Any comment?
How good is 508XG(non FHD) picture compare to B7000?

Hi Buddy,

If you post this question on a Pioneer or Samsung thread you'll likely to get more info?

OK, here's the scoop,

Pioneer 500XDA (same thing as XG, kalido correct me if I'm wrong)

http://www.cnet.com.au/pioneer-pdp-508xda-339281523.htm

Samsung UN55B7000

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/sam...7-33490415.html

720p vs 1080p

Here's a posting on Yahoo where a guy did some homework to compare Pioneer & Panasonic



My answer to his dilemma would be................ seated roughly 8ft & beyond, our eyes can't differentiate btw 720p & 1080p.

In other words, you'll need to consider these 3 factors in your buying decision:

1) Screen Size
2) Viewing Distance
3) Resolution

See chart below:



Hope this helps............

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 11 2010, 12:26 PM

yeah...i reckon the 508XDA , the 508XG and 508XD are all the same models meant for different regions.

this calculator would also be quite useful in working out viewing distances based on THX and SMPTE standards and guidelines.

http://myhometheater.homestead.com/viewing...calculator.html


and this spreadsheet is even better....

http://www.carltonbale.com/ht/calculator/t...ulator_v4.0.xls

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 11 2010, 01:10 PM

why compare 55" B7000 with 508XG? i believe 55" B7000 should be more than RM10k. if compare with KRP500, i will take the latter although is smaller.

KRP-500 no more new stock. If you know who got stock let me know please.

Have you try Harvey?

Ya display set only

I'd still go for it if it comes with the Pioneer warranty ( 5 years if i'm not wrong ) and an absolutely great deal ! just my 5 cent

not with the price they are asking! its more than what it cost new

What about any Full HD plasma for around 7k with no burn in,black levels issues?

Wanted to get a flat panel for my parents place so 2 days ago I undertook a mission in search of the answer to the same exact question .
And now , I'm in the LCD wagon....lol .
As a kuro owner, I strongly believe Plasma is clearly superior ( in IMHO ) but just can't rely on the current Plasma manufacturers who're just killin the plasma reputation or what's left of it after Pioneer exited the business.

↲Thks for advice. ↲508 cost rm8999 new unit and not FHD, my viewing distance is 7 feets.↲55B7000 new cost rm11.7k, too bad the krp500a no more new unit and harvey pg sells display unit at rm13999.

Pioneer has stopped producing their Kuro plasmas?

I might get LCDs but 50" FHD + seems too expensive

panasonic is good already, but if you have more money, you can go for pioneer

Pana is supposedly having black levels issue right now

Else i sure terus buy their models

yes, they do . I was all set to go for the 2010 50" model till I got to know bout the floating black issue. Just check out the thread here for more info.

-kytz- : Pio had just announced their collaboration with Pana for plasma and started releasing LCDs in collaboration with Sharp back in 2008/09. They had to resort to such strategic bussiness collaboration in order to emerge out of the heavily unprofitable plasma division due to bad sales and market response . Not very long after that, came the bloody financial crisis to ruin it all....thus they announced their exit out of the display business altogether. The END of the legend and the cease of genuine TV technology innovation .

But all was not bad , when the news that Pana had bought over Pio plasma tech came lurking out, fans were relieved .
And the 2010 models did seem they were worthy replacement with excellent black levels but with the floating blacks issue, the so called Panasonic Kuro remains a myth .

Guys, time is money.... if you still keep on debating on this topic, don't think you'll even find 428XG anymore

Btw - what you're paying for the current price is just a mere fraction of the retail price if Pioneer had not exit the business

I have repeatedly mentioned that stocks are running low since a month ago and they were selling like hot cakes when dealers were clearing their stock.

I have seen this coming and bought the KRP-500A in Dec even though I was fully aware that it is no longer in production!

One forumer asked for my help to reserve a KRP-500A through my contacts. Next thing he 'Fong-Fei-Kei' hoping that the price will drop further. Too bad!

Even if you would like to pay extras now, availability remains in question.............

Better make you choice, it's now or never!

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Added on April 11, 2010, 11:25 pmQuite possible to see some KURO elements in the next few batches of Panasonic PDPs. Not surprised if the KURO brand is retained since it is highly regarded in the industry

To utilize KURO tech, Panasonic may have to build their PDP panels from the ground up, especially now the trend is moving to 3D. That's exactly what the Pioneer engineers did for every KURO generation. They'll probably need time to come up with a new processing chip as well.

If all goes well, perhaps 2011

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Added on April 11, 2010, 11:33 pmBtw, if you guys are serious about getting a KURO and would like to get some tips on where to get a unit, you might want to post your question here:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1340204

There are also few guys asking around for the nearest shop that still offers the PDP. One prond owner just bought 2 KURO units (428XG & 500A) at the same time!

I bet you'll find some help here. If you don't ask (politely), you won't get an answer

All registered KURO Kakis in this thread!

This post has been edited by serendipity168: Apr 11 2010, 11:37 PM

I second serendipity strongly on this !

This post has been edited by kalido: Apr 12 2010, 09:25 AM

Wooh, earliest 2011 to see the re - emergence of Kuro? Good news for cheapskates like me lol!

That's a long shot, my friend. Don't quote me on this

Dudes! Code red!!! Finally found out that there are rave reviews (good reviews) for the Panasonic TH-P50S10K 50" full HD plasma TV. Problem is this TV is like the Dodo bird! Extinct!!!! Can anyone help me out here? I stay in Taiping so hard to find here. Someone quoted me the price of 5k exactly.........is that a good bargain or should I counter with another price? Help!!! Need info ASAP!