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post Jun 9 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(xpresside @ Jun 9 2010, 02:54 PM)
what's your point? that i need to write an essay in order to post my opinion which is a fact?
why so serious?
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did you just mistakenly quoted yourself and re-quote me back? man thats fast! in any case do realize the hahaha in my statement which in any laymen terms indicate that i wasnt being serious with that retort to your one liner, i think you answered yourself already, so i rest my case.

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post Jun 9 2010, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Jun 9 2010, 03:10 PM)
Is this true iOS4 will have let us customize our ringtone directly in our Iphone ?

Just curious
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not possible, you can however head to audiko.net, they allow you to upload your mp3s and then edit which part u wanna make as ringtone, unless you have a mac la that is because you can use garageband for this.
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post Jun 9 2010, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Jimsee @ Jun 9 2010, 03:46 PM)
dude..  this argument or opinion is for everybody convenience sake..

u said "Apple lets you do it easily  on itunes ..."

your satisfaction level may differs from mine or others...

but to be honest, i'm quite fed up this limitations with Iphone...
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Its funny that you can't just move on with your life and get another phone that'll give you:

a. Better satisfaction level

b. No limitation

c. Lets you edit ringtones on the phone itself

Simple fact is, if you feel the iPhone is not your cup of tea, you are not the target audience, there are plenty of phones(cheaper) that can bring you happiness out there, so go on ahead and stop complaining here and make yourself miserable. Its not like there is someone pointing a gun at your head and asking you to shell out 3K for an Iphone
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post Jun 9 2010, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 9 2010, 04:10 PM)
Look at where you are now. You are in the Apple section. Most if not all the folks here already know what they're getting into with their iPhones, including the requirement with syncing with iTunes or the crippling of their Bluetooth. We all accepted these limitations, and still preferred the iPhone over other options. Now, let me ask you this. What are you doing here, other than posting one-liner posts, and potentially provoking the rest with your posts? You're in an Apple iPhone section, what would you expect other than general acceptance and bias towards the iPhone? Isn't that a given? Your posts provides no new content that longtime users here have already known and accepted. So what does that left us? Other than this sneaky feeling that your presence here is just to stir the pot and cause ruckus?

I applaud your bravery in placing yourself in the middle of the firing range where you make yourself look like the underdog hero fighting against the horde of evil Apple diehards. But I suggest that you post your shortcoming and disgust towards the iPhone/Apple in the more appropriate section of this forum, namely your PC section(as you've indicated)  and your choice of mobile OS platform. Because I have this sinking feeling that you've already known what response you're gonna get posting those one-liners in a section full of Apple enthusiasts, and yet you still welcome the verbal beating and abuse? What are you, a masochist? You'd get a better response and audience that will agree with you more if you post your one-liners in the non-Apple section. Why not gather your like-minded audience and post your dissatisfaction there? Is your platform of choice so boring that you have to come here and impart with us your "iTunes = bloated" and "iPhone Bluetooth = crippled" gem of a post?

Bottom line is, criticism is welcomed here, but of the constructive kind. All the anti-Apple posts seems to be more interested in the "nyah nyah nyah my phone can do this, yours cannot" -pointing fingers kind rather than discuss the shortcomings and compare it with other mobile platform constructively.

I'm sorry DG, if you feel this post isn't suitable in this volatile environment, feel free to edit/delete. I just have to get certain things off my chest because we had to deal with this every time there's a new iPhone launch. Personally, I'm getting tired of this endless tirade.
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so aptly put i agree with this wholeheartedly, dont waste your energy string i noticed him placing one liners a while back then deleted by Davidgary. He never learns his lesson no matter how many times you'd prove him wrong in any capacity. moving along appleinsider has a very good post about FaceTime and why it is the way it is, heres thelink.
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post Jun 9 2010, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 9 2010, 04:33 PM)
I know, I'm not gonna picky if they ran out of black ones. I had a white 3G last time, and I loved it to bits. biggrin.gif

As for protection, I'm not sure if I want to cover it in any case right now. After looking at Steve's explanation of the stainless steel band around the side of the iPhone acting like huge antennas, covering it with a case ,even Apple's Bumper case may negate some of the advantage of having that unique antennae construction. I may change my mind later if I get to see it firsthand and judge its fragility.
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hmm if i remember correctly the case material itself is actually radio signal transparent, so there are many ways for the signal to come and go out of the iPhone itself, very interesting indeed, i was planning to get the bumpers though haha
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post Jun 9 2010, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(TakanoKyohei @ Jun 9 2010, 04:43 PM)
I have a question that need you guys to share an opinion. since the antenna is divide into 2 side where 1 for it is for UMTS and and the other side is for wifi, bluetooth, what will happen if both antenna make a contact, i mean if we put in our pocket then suddenly both antenna connect via our key or etc, does it will short circuit and burnt our component in the iphone? or maybe there are small electricity flow through the antenna goes up to the component?

somehow i think its kind of danger where it touches between both antenna.
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no antennas emit radio signals, there is no issues of both antennas touching each other through keys and such, internally IIRC they are hooked up under one frame.
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post Jun 9 2010, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(sokryswaslike @ Jun 9 2010, 05:03 PM)
Do you guys think it is possible to upgrade to iPhone 4 (when it arrives in Malaysia) by trading in my iPhone 3G[S]? I apologize if this question has been asked.
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im not sure if its possible, i know long before maxis did a recycling campaign of grey market iphones exchanged with official Iphone 3g(early 2009). Where did you buy your phone from Maxis or Digi? but you can only find out in the coming months iif theres any plans for this, why not consider to sell it at garage sales?

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post Jun 9 2010, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(kayweng @ Jun 9 2010, 05:16 PM)
wow~ if really ,how much we need to pay to get iphone 4 with trade in 3GS or 3G ,i believe all our iphones are new becoz we normally buy tint and case to protect it...

if add more 500 - 1000, hmm,i will consider..but quite impossible this price..
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the thing is, maxis and digi will be occupied with signing up new customers or existing customers to their plans, thats where the real money is, off setting new models through trade ins will incur a little bit of profit loss unless they ask you to add a year or two in terms of contract. i personally dont like long period of contracts, especially because of annual cycle of iphones.
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QUOTE(frozzbyte @ Jun 9 2010, 05:21 PM)
Yes ... It might appear in the app store as a 3rd party apps but when or will it be approve by Apple ... we don't know. You know la Apple and their app approval process (I assume you know la).

It's not the matter of 'nevermind, can JB' as a viable solution to majority but as an [b]option to those that are looking for it. By option I mean, if you want something but need to JB but you don't want to JB then don't JB. Wait for Apple or 3rd party to implement it. If you think you can't wait and want it and JB is OK with you then proceed. That's what I say options ... your choice. Maybe you think JB is not a viable solution to majority but atleast it provide options to some.
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p/s - kae_ae ... I don't have anything against you, just saying the other side of the coin.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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well looking into the other other side of the coin tongue.gif then theres also the users who are cheapskate and once they get their iphones straightaway JB it and dl all the pirated galore available. i can see so many of them doing so here without even trying the appstore or dl the free titles available and also the uncanny nature of discussing their piracy exploits as if its the right thing to do, boast summore shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jun 9 2010, 09:38 PM)
voiding the warranty doesnt mean it's illegal right? im not sure if it against the EULA or not.

probably ipod touch will just get the old 2mp camera from the iphone 2g heheh. dun forget the 3GS is still on sale
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i honestly think it does, isnt it under exploitation and piracy?

the EULA section 2C prohibits this, look it up i cant copy and paste here.



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post Jun 9 2010, 11:01 PM

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dear mods,
why is there another thread here? http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1450091

@string,
some rich fellers dont even wanna pay taxes yet complain when certain things go up in prices.
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jun 10 2010, 12:00 AM)
with the iOS4, id say it would be good enough for me to stick with the 3GS for at least another year..it is still a very decent phone at the moment..

btw,i was wondering if theres anywhere else i can find the steve jobs keynote video for the iphone 4 and iOS4..somehow the link at the apple website only gives me audio..either that or my streamyx really sucks at the moment..

something for those still trying to decide..

to all 3Gs users thinking of dumping thier 'wives'..  laugh.gif
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go to itunes and sign up for the apple keynote podcast and thats it.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 10 2010, 12:35 AM)
i think alot ppl got misleading about apple multi task. Even old phones like Nokia 7650 can multi task many many years back then. Today apple multi task not all application run at real time right? It will pause one and run another like a switcher
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i used to have that phone and the experience was horrendous, apple never claim to be teh first in multitasking they just made it better with less harm to the battery.


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QUOTE(davidgary73 @ Jun 10 2010, 12:09 AM)
@nimrod323

I can't do anything since i'm not incharge of that forum. Mods are given only some forums to mod.

There are a few more threads on iPhone 4 all over the forum but no actions taken by the mods incharge.
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opps sorry, checked it agin its closed already by Fariz. sorry for the trouble.

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QUOTE(c010 @ Jun 10 2010, 09:45 AM)
not sure whether there is such arrangement on returning the leftover or not, but for sure that the contract signed between Maxis with Apple was to commit 120K units which i doubt Apple is willing to take back their phone. that's the reason why both telcos were trying to get rid of the phone before iphone 4 announced. things happening ppl may not see or know, but what actually is going on i know, cos i am from telco industry.
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They have similar arrangements with the Apple resellers, have some buddies working there aswell, how it works if i understand it portion of the money from the cost will be returned back to the telco, so that it'll soften their blow, and they could sell it cheaper, at the end of the day if they still have leftover stock they either try to clear it off or send it back. But i think the telcos are getting smarter especially Digi, they knew whats was happening and cleared off just in time. I hope at any rate Celcom if they are willing to commit, would do the same. But i guess as for maxis, the real money lies in the corporate bulk purchase no?

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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 10 2010, 10:11 AM)
While that's true for all forms of technology, most of the people in this forum already expect a new iPhone model next year. If people want to wait for the latest technology, they'll end up getting left behind forever.
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whats with *f*** apple is launching a new phone AGAIN next year comments*, nokia and goole launch new phone every month, how does that make you feel? being obsolete in a month to month basis. Ojimaru, relax pal, no point contending to this fellers, they only seem to appear as of yesterday since their thread on bashing iphone 4 in mobile phone subforum was terminated by the mod.
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QUOTE(aleluya @ Jun 10 2010, 10:19 AM)
FYI, I am not bashing on Apple. This is only my opinion. Yes true that Nokia did releases new phone every month, but for an iPhone user myself, I don't see my reason for iPhone 4 yet; or perhaps the hidden 100 more features will catch my eyes later on? I don't know either and that's just my 2 cent.

I am using iPhone and iPad, in fact I like Apple for what they have created; but iPhone 4 definitely isn't my preferences yet as the major changes aren't too much compare to 2G to 3G. It's not bashing, it's just preferences.
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look im not commenting on whether or not you are bashing apple or iphone, im talking about the one liner posts one page back. I was commenting on how you complained about the 1 year cycle, no1 is asking you to upgrade, given the chances, if i had the iphone 3GS i wouldnt either. I'm not gonna go into specifics what apple products i use and all that, thats doesnt matter. Its ridiculous to talk about how iphones go obsolete in one year when many phone vendors introduce their top of the line every 3 weeks to 1 month.
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QUOTE(Ojimaru @ Jun 10 2010, 11:07 AM)
1) You're quoting and responding to the quote out of context.
2) How the hell did my post read as frustration towards the yearly refresh?
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wait i should have been a bit clear, my earlier point were meant for alleluya not you the response later is for you, should have been clearer
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QUOTE(zs3889 @ Jun 10 2010, 12:28 PM)
Hey guys, so ipod touch user can also upgrade to IOS4?? 2nd gen and 3rd gen too??
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1st page please, thank you.

Anyways regarding the Super Amoled is there any real world test? done in bright sun light? i wouldnt take apple's or samsung's word without checking the claims out first.
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wait, does it matter which processor is it? from my experience of using macs, hardware is not necessarily an issue because the OS itself is less graphic and hardware intensive
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QUOTE(evrythincool @ Jun 10 2010, 09:38 PM)
engineered glass for the iPhone. Do we still need screen protectors and casing for this hardened glass?
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well from my experience this sapphire glass of the 2g, 3g and 3gs will still get scratches, so im assuming it'll be the same, better get one of those powersupport ones, im sure they have front and back protectors.


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