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ginolo
post Apr 9 2010, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(shinnyx @ Apr 9 2010, 02:18 AM)
flash lacks of security, required high resources and drain battery. it's not a smart choice to run it on mobile devices.
Moreover, HTML5 is a better choice.
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seems like HTML5 owned flash. Besides, its a really good fight back to Flash, Google android and BB notworthy.gif
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Voxe @ Apr 9 2010, 02:21 AM)
How so? Android doesn't seem to be crashing every 5 mins or lasting less than a minute while running flash.
HTML5 is still in its crawling stages whereas Flash is used in 95% of the plugins in the Web. It would be ludicrous to not support Flash, just like not releasing a Windows iTunes.
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Well, like i said, take it or leave it. If you dont like, just get Android. Not mean to offense you but we all knows that Flash is probably wont appear on iphone/ipad/ipod.
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Eithanius @ Apr 9 2010, 02:22 AM)
but this is deja vu....  mad.gif
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LOL


Added on April 9, 2010, 2:26 am
QUOTE(Shock @ Apr 9 2010, 02:24 AM)
Yup, but at least os 4 can run 4 and i 100% sure 3g phone will crash kau kau...lol

Anyway GOOD NIGHT everyone, havve a good dream on OS 4. *need some sleep, working past 12 hour and need wake up in 3 hour time*
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Well, in the same time, Steve is pushing the sales of iphone 3gs. Seems like there will be more than 100% iphone sales increased in next quarter.

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post Apr 9 2010, 02:31 AM

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QUOTE(ZaRnX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
wee~ i smell firepower

“We do not have any plans to become a worldwide ad agency. We tried to buy a company called admob, and Google came in and snatched them from us. We bought Quattro instead. They’re teaching us and we’re learning as fast as we can.”
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Its a good revenge on google =) Google taught Apple something and Apple now is practicing it back to em'

QUOTE(Voxe @ Apr 9 2010, 02:25 AM)
You misunderstood my intentions. I do agree that Apple has left Flash for dead but its stupid to think that Flash is irrelevant and weak.
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Okay, peace bro icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(allvin @ Apr 9 2010, 02:27 AM)
“There was no decision to make as far as multitasking. Some of the earlier hardware can’t support multitasking at all.” – Jobs
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What does this mean actually? i dont really get it.
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Apr 9 2010, 02:33 AM)
i think wat he means is the processor and ram of earlier iphones,they are slower and running multitask on them won't be a good idea
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at ended up with often crash?


Q: Are there any plans for you to run unsigned applications, like on Android?
A: There is a porn store for Android to go to. You can download them, your kids can download them. That’s a place we don’t want to go. We’re not going to go there.

Probably shooting Android with full power.
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:38 AM

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Seems like http://live.gizmodo.com/ is providing more Question Session than Engadget.
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:40 AM

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Q: Are you concerned about leaving out your older customer base (with the lack of features for older devices). A: (Steve) Well, a lot of these products that are out there are the most recent products. The old devices will get the update, but they'll miss some of these features like multitasking. If that's an incentive for them to upgrade to a new device... terrific.

Seems like Steve is answering to you, Eithanius. haha
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post Apr 9 2010, 02:43 AM

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Okay, the Press is over. Time to sleep. Good Day 2.42am
Iphone 4.0 SDK (BETA) is available to download here

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post Apr 9 2010, 07:47 AM

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Okay, this is what you guys has been waiting so long. Watch the live HERE!
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post Apr 9 2010, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 9 2010, 08:43 AM)

here's something that I do wonder about. Those like the 2G iPhone wont be able to get the upgrade. However those ppl who are still using the 2G, do they really make use of the newer features?
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i think it depends on the user. most of the user that are interested with the new functions will probably sell their iphone off. Then for those who is dont really care or need about the new features, they will stay back. just finished watching the replay of live. Too bad the Q&A section is not included.
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post Apr 9 2010, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Apr 9 2010, 12:06 PM)
wow page 17 already!

anyway juz wanna confirm...1st gen ipod touch cannot upgrade to 4.0 right?

all in all a great update biggrin.gif so many improvements from 3.0 compared to 2.0 -> 3.0 last time. those with 3GS and 3rd gen ipod touch sure very happy now!
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yes, first gen cant 4.0. my 1st gen ipod can throw away d cry.gif


Added on April 9, 2010, 1:15 pm
QUOTE(lilster @ Apr 9 2010, 01:10 PM)
can tell some examples of what features that 3gs will not have?
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most probably no. cause so far the iphone os 4.0 is design for 3gs. Dude, read more on engadget.

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post Apr 9 2010, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(falcon21 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:19 PM)
3gs will have full features right. unless if u're askin bout 3g then 1 ting it wont have is multitasking. same goes for 2g  tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ginolo @ Apr 9 2010, 01:14 PM)
yes, first gen cant 4.0. my 1st gen ipod can throw away d cry.gif

don nid throw le..giv me  tongue.gif
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seems like the announcement killed the previous version of ipod and iphone. I expect that will be a price cut slash on brand new or second hand 1st gen ipod/iphone, 2nd gen ipod/iphone. And it is not really a bad news, cause some of the consumer who dont really needs multi tasking can now afford iphone 2g at a cheaper rate. sweat.gif

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post Apr 9 2010, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(falcon21 @ Apr 9 2010, 01:38 PM)
what do you think bout iphone 3g then bro? will the price drop too? dono how fast will maxis & digi response for their plan if price slash..
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i have no idea about that, it is a 50/50 case. the iphone 3g is still consider new in malaysia. so i think the iphone owner who just subscribed to our telcos are the people who suffered. maybe some of em' will be very interested to change to 3gs but if he letting the phone go now, he will suffer a bit loss on depreciation. But if for normal user, maybe like my dad, he won't care about the multi tasking or os 4.0 thinggy cause what he need is just a pure iphone, make calls, emails and sms.So they will have no reason to go for new 3gs.

So, at last, there are still good news and bad news too, i believe there will be some people want to let go their 3g and seek for 3gs. so you are planning to go for 3g, ready yourself with CASH to COD a lower price iphone 3g. for the bad news, iphone 3gs 2nd hand value will increase due to hot demand. Just my two cents. laugh.gif

QUOTE(tineagle @ Apr 9 2010, 01:33 PM)
keynote video is out, dont know if its been posted yet but here it is :

http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/1004fk8d5gt/event/
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yeap, i posted that before. guess its good to re-post it now.
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post Apr 9 2010, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Apr 9 2010, 04:15 PM)
lol..even mine with jailbreak + live walpaper+backgrounder+ push + heavy usage also can last for 1 day with my iphone 3g
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i think its all about what aps they use, and also how they maintain the health of battery. rclxub.gif and yea, brightness, bluetooth,wifi,3g also the main thing affecting the power.

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