
overpriced cables, marketing gimmicks
overpriced cables, marketing gimmicks
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Apr 3 2010, 11:32 PM, updated 16y ago
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Apr 3 2010, 11:42 PM
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Rip off from obe lulz blog eh?
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Apr 3 2010, 11:48 PM
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this is quite true to great extend
i really feel that the hdmi cable makers r ripping us off for as long as they can... juz look at a simple analogy: DVI interface which produces no less quality than HDMI interface minus the audio capability & look at the price diff of the two...if we don't call this rip off, then what? |
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Apr 3 2010, 11:56 PM
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monster hdmi cable got the same performance with a $10 hdmi cable is so true
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Apr 4 2010, 12:19 AM
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And yet there are still those that shell out the money for Monster cables.
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Apr 4 2010, 12:45 AM
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very usefull info, never knew that, thought monster cable very geng
Now using my Acer HDMI cable that comes with the monitor This post has been edited by victor2212: Apr 4 2010, 12:45 AM |
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Apr 4 2010, 01:12 AM
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One word, Monster cables are gimmicks of all time.
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Apr 4 2010, 02:26 PM
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better use cheap hdmi cable??
lulz luckily im not into hdmi cable |
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Apr 5 2010, 01:24 AM
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lol... totally true. me myself went to buy belkin hdmi cable for RM98 from dell together with ST2410. how stupid i am
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Apr 5 2010, 01:31 AM
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actually is very hard to feel da difference between a cheap HDMI and good HDMI
unless u r talking every inch of details...only benchmark could show da result....human eye? NO |
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Apr 5 2010, 01:39 AM
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it is true dat there is no difference between cheappo HDMI vs expensive HDMI.
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Apr 5 2010, 01:55 AM
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same like gaming ram case?
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Apr 5 2010, 03:11 AM
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monster gonna take it up a notch and sell adamantium plated hdmi cables soon
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Apr 5 2010, 11:23 AM
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hdmi cable makers r ripping us off for as long as they can
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Apr 5 2010, 02:17 PM
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Apr 5 2010, 10:46 PM
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it's subjective, for rich ppl with few tens or hundreds K of HT setup, the amount is negligible for them, satisfaction is priceless
for me at the layman class, even it is proven to have marginal improvement, the cost is still not justifying my low-end setup |
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Apr 6 2010, 07:51 AM
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if the performance doesn't outweigh the cost, i don't see the reason why people should spend that much amount of money to get so called "high performance" stuff..
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Apr 6 2010, 11:05 AM
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lol, saw this in gizmodo
still quite weird that they will still sell at a high price at near same performance |
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Apr 6 2010, 12:27 PM
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thanks for the info. Today I learn something new.
I will ban monster cable and their products. |
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Apr 6 2010, 01:13 PM
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not worth for this cables
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Apr 6 2010, 01:56 PM
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not just HDMI, even USB cable from Monster also is overpriced
saw one in seng heng....about RM159 just for usb cable.... |
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Apr 6 2010, 06:46 PM
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Apr 7 2010, 06:25 AM
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as long as there are people buying, this kind of product will keep appearing..
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Apr 7 2010, 10:40 AM
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how true.
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Apr 7 2010, 12:54 PM
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damn bought logitech hdmi cable RM50
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Apr 7 2010, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Apr 5 2010, 01:39 AM) for me have tested on 42" LCD, RM 68 VS RM 30 cheapo hdmirm 30 will not sync the bluray subtitle 1080p and sometime got wave or blur, RM 68 is ok for movie playing HD 1080 connecting my ps3 with cheapo RM 30 HDMI, playing game like killzone 2, fifa 10, pes, i've got ghosting and blur a lot.. connect with RM 68 HDMI cable.. that ghosting still have.. but less then before.. for 0% ghosting / blur.. = monster cable is solution? at last play my ps3 @ 24" Dell only |
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Apr 7 2010, 01:15 PM
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so what about the gold part?
as i knew that's help on audio quality.. or maybe video.. both also subjective.. |
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Apr 7 2010, 01:16 PM
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Apr 7 2010, 02:21 PM
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Used HDMI cables and adapters since early 2007... never paid more than RM 20 for a standard length... that's 3 years ago, where rarity/high demand increased the prices
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Apr 7 2010, 11:46 PM
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Anyone know where can buy the cheapest HDMI Cables in LYP or somewhere around LYP? I wish to buy 1 to test it. LOL.
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Apr 8 2010, 01:08 AM
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Haha.. for those who bought a monster cable sure got lot of things to talk.. XD
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Apr 8 2010, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(zeronehza @ Apr 7 2010, 01:04 PM) for me have tested on 42" LCD, RM 68 VS RM 30 cheapo hdmi HDMI got version punya abang....get atleast 1.3b rm 30 will not sync the bluray subtitle 1080p and sometime got wave or blur, RM 68 is ok for movie playing HD 1080 connecting my ps3 with cheapo RM 30 HDMI, playing game like killzone 2, fifa 10, pes, i've got ghosting and blur a lot.. connect with RM 68 HDMI cable.. that ghosting still have.. but less then before.. for 0% ghosting / blur.. = monster cable is solution? at last play my ps3 @ 24" Dell only ALSO please dun compare cheap HDMI and expensive HDMI it does really have different just you guys see it as overpriced HDMI |
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Apr 8 2010, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(,Apr 3 2010, 11:32 PM) yuktsi14... cool info! And... last week i bought an RM39.00 High Speed HDMI cable from All IT Hypermart.... works well, yo!+1 This post has been edited by RayKazansky: Apr 8 2010, 04:11 PM |
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Apr 9 2010, 02:44 AM
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those who love low price HDMI cable can go get them at TESCO,
retail now after promotion RM15.00.......................... |
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Apr 9 2010, 09:25 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 11:45 AM
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Apr 9 2010, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(asellus @ Apr 9 2010, 09:25 AM) Quite a lot voted for 1 star. |
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Apr 9 2010, 12:37 PM
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Apr 9 2010, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(asellus @ Apr 9 2010, 09:25 AM) effing loled at the comments... can stop laughing |
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Apr 9 2010, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 9 2010, 12:37 PM) QUOTE After I took delivery of my $500 Denon AKDL1 Cat-5 uber-cable, Al Gore was mysteriously drawn to my home, where he pronounced that Global Warming had been suspended in my vicinity. Yes, I had perfect weather: no flooding, no tornadoes, the exact amount of rain necessary, and he pronounced sea levels exactly right and that they were not going to rise within five miles of my house. Additionally, my cars began achieving 200 mpg and I didn't even need gasoline. I was able to put three grams of cat litter into the tank and drive forever. What's more, the atmosphere inside my home became 93% oxygen and virtually no carbon dioxide. In fact, I now exhale oxygen. One heck of a cable. Didn't notice any improvement in audio quality though. The $800 Apple iCable is clearly superior. [sarcasm]awesome cable.......i must get 1 right now!!!! guys, i'm bulking, who's wit me?[/sarcasm] |
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Apr 9 2010, 01:30 PM
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21 ringgit HDMI cables from Sri Computers. hasn't failed me yet.
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Apr 9 2010, 01:34 PM
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wow $800 for the icable.....holy crap.
so its the same goes to the s-video monster and so? |
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Apr 9 2010, 01:38 PM
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For normal user who gaming in a PC monitor , cheapo HDMI will do, if you are using those HT(Home theater) or using big LCD with 7.1-9.2 HT surround(Not those pc brand speaker Logitech.....etc) you will see the difference. Been using Monster and audioquest all the while with my gaming and movie. Loving it. And tested between CAt ayam and branded.
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Apr 10 2010, 07:17 PM
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mine even cheap then tesco..rm15
cause mine free..hahahha.. korek from sony shop.. For those who buy LCD TV do insist HDMI for free This post has been edited by lksing78: Apr 10 2010, 07:18 PM |
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Apr 11 2010, 09:31 PM
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i compared a rm200 sony hdmi cable that my dad bought together with the bravia, and the rm30 that i use for my xbox
dont feel any difference |
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Apr 11 2010, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Apr 11 2010, 09:31 PM) i compared a rm200 sony hdmi cable that my dad bought together with the bravia, and the rm30 that i use for my xbox didnt anyone told you that to print the name "SONY" on the cable cost more? it feels great to use it because the name doesnt fades away easily compare to those brandless ones.dont feel any difference This post has been edited by ham_revilo: Apr 11 2010, 10:55 PM |
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Apr 12 2010, 02:01 AM
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thanks 4 the info
nearly fall to the monster gimmick |
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Apr 12 2010, 01:01 PM
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yea monster cables are for burning a hole in ur pocket, its been proven total crap.. so just use the no-brand HDMI can liao
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Apr 16 2010, 01:49 PM
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I found a good site that reviewed almost every HDMI cable they could get their hands on. They're geeks, so be thankful that they did the testing for us.
Results QUOTE Every cable over 10 meters failed to pass 1080p, even at 8-bit, though Monster claims their m1000 Series can do just about anything (they didn't provide a cable over 10m to test and they don't sell it at lengths above 25 feet). At 10 meters the Monster Cable 700HD and 1000HD passes 8-bit, and we added Blue Jeans Cable (30 feet actually) and DVIGear. Blue Jeans, incidentally, uses a Belden-made HDMI cable. When we increased the bits to simulate 1080p at 12-bit Deep Color (similar to what's available in most HDMI 1.3a-rated products today) most manufacturers had to drop back to 5 meters to pass the signal. Blue Jeans passed it at 30 feet, but DVIGear requires their active cable solution to do a full 10 meters. Monster Cables' 1000HD cable also passed 1080p at 12-bit with no issues. source: http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...ble-bench-testsQUOTE It turns out that manufacturers aren't idiots; and I bet more than a few realize that they can spec their cables higher due to the lack of content to prove them wrong. In short, they are getting away with it... for now. http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...tion-conclusion the answer is - Wait and See. For most of us Malaysians, i think we won't line our walls with HDMI, prefer to keep it outside, but for the rich enthusiast who will put a hole in their wall for the entire setup, its best to tunggu sekejap, because HDMI will defo upgrade. when we hit 12 bit there's apparently very few cables on the market that can handle it. This post has been edited by spacelion: Apr 16 2010, 01:52 PM |
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Apr 21 2010, 11:11 AM
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I think it depends on the distance from the source to the receiver also. If the distance is short (less than 3m), I think we won't feel any difference between cheap & expensive HDMI cable. If the distance is long (more than 5m or 10m), there might be some quality difference noticeable bcoz expensive ones do use better material for their cables like gold plated & other stuffs.
If you search Monster cable on Wikipedia, you can find that Monster caused a lot of controversy by charging high price for their products that have no significant difference to regular cables. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Cable_Products So for us average users, I think a cheap one will do the job. |
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Apr 21 2010, 12:32 PM
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so far i only use free hdmi cables that comes with the tv, media player and bought a generic 10m hdmi cable for my PJ and so far no problems.
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Apr 21 2010, 02:26 PM
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Yaya,total agreed!!!Even in the age when using analog cable,it is also recommended to train yourself by using the cheaper cable for some time before moving onto the more expensive cable.I dun think we need to buy too expensive digital cable and rather spend the extra money elsewhere .
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