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post Apr 10 2005, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 10 2005, 06:18 PM)
hihi all ...
i wanna ask DDR400 BT-d43 is all CL2.5 or some got CL3 at the kingston label there ???
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kingston value ram all written and label there CL3 lel, where got 2.5 wor?
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post Apr 10 2005, 06:57 PM

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last time KVR DDR400 bt-d43 is CL2.5 1 lehhh
now all is CL3 dy ??
i wonder still can run at CL2.5 at 220 and above not ??
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mine both bt and dt 43 is set at 3.0CL
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post Apr 11 2005, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 10 2005, 06:57 PM)
last time KVR DDR400 bt-d43 is CL2.5 1 lehhh
now all is CL3 dy ??
i wonder still can run at CL2.5 at 220 and above not ??
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can...here... http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=109760
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post Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM

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sweat.gif why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig.
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM)
sweat.gif why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig.
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try cpc off. btd cant run well on 1t at intel system
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QUOTE(NeophyteHeaven @ Apr 11 2005, 12:29 AM)
sweat.gif why my BT-D43 only can go 215FSB (all default)...i cant push higher.anything i have to do?..my pc spec as my sig.
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Is that a new btd-43 there? cos i heard new one is not as good as the old one..
on Intel my btd can do 264fsb cpc on...memtest stable sumore
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post Apr 11 2005, 02:17 AM

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try loosen up the timing.

bt-d43 dun like tight timing.

2.5-4-4-* OR
3-4-4-*

will give you much higher fsb
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post Apr 11 2005, 10:21 AM

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I tried all mod bios Merlin, Tictac and Trats , cpc-on/off or T=1/2 , all not working for dual chanl even @ 200 mhz (DDR400) .
My memory can do 235 mhz at single 2x512mb at 3,4,4 ,11 .I think it's my mobo.

I'll tried those older mod bios , they may help eg. D10 .

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post Apr 11 2005, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(kenkk @ Apr 11 2005, 10:21 AM)
I tried all mod bios Merlin, Tictac and Trats , cpc-on/off or T=1/2 , all not working for dual chanl even @ 200 mhz (DDR400) .
My memory can do 235 mhz at single 2x512mb at 3,4,4 ,11 .I  think it's my mobo.

I'll tried those older mod bios , they may help eg. D10 .

huh.gif
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U mean new batch of D43? I don't know, I haven't tried dual channel on my NF7. Now single channel, 1x512MB 2.5-3-2-11 240MHz. 2T
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post Apr 11 2005, 11:38 AM

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Hrmm..

I tried single channel @ 233 CL9-3-3-3.

One stick passed while the other failed sad.gif
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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Apr 11 2005, 01:46 AM)
Is that a new btd-43 there? cos i heard new one is not as good as the old one..
on Intel my btd can do 264fsb cpc on...memtest stable sumore
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yea i think its new, from cpz manufacturing date (week 09 Year 05)
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post Apr 11 2005, 01:49 PM

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My experience on my Apacer BT-D43 made 0352. Quite old one.

Anyway, didn't do much oc until now after reading that 939 can go so high and I don't have any TCCD. So need to "train" up my ram to go >250mhz(ddr500).

In this training excercise, this is what I notice.

1. 1st start with DC. Only good until 230-235mhz with Memtest. Even I set to 3.3v.

2. So test 1 by 1. Found #1 can do 250mhz. The other until 235mhz. So just run that #2 one with 3.3v for like 10 days.

3. Now both can go >250mhz SC.

4. Next DC them. Same thing only until 235mhz, even though chipset voltage until 1.9v. Suspect maybe the chipset. So now time to train my chipset. Set DC at 235mhz and 1.9v and runs. After 1 day, will reboot and see how. Slowly and slowly. Day by day. Advance 1 mhz or 2 mhz. after like 2 weeks, now I am testing at DC 260mhz. Only Memtest #7 fail. Each pass give me about 50 error. Memtest #5 ok.

5. But at DC 265mhz, Memtest will freeze pc. So thinking of alternative.

6. Now using Simmtester, another free memory testing software. Maybe less stress on cpu or whatever. Can run DC at 265mhz and no error.

7. I notice I can boot by #1 ram at 270mhz, but will freeze at bios mem testing. So donno if 270mhz booting is cpu limit, mobo limit or ram limit.

My conlucison. When new, cannot oc. Need time and patience to train up the electronic component, without over done them. Otherwise, will be permanently cacat.

My advice. If you ram cannot go high, then set at highest possible stable, like 215mhz and max voltage 2.9v (nf7). Then just do your normal thing with your pc for about 1 week. After that, then try oc and see if can go higher.

When I got got my ram, I can only go until 225mhz. Now after more than 1 year of normal use, start to play and found can go so high.


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wahh .... ram got MEMORY EFFECT kah !!!
can be trained like tat ... jus like real pet
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post Apr 11 2005, 11:22 PM

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mfa333@

u can put at any slot... or u can try 1 by 1 at every each slot... if all of them givin u da same stable setting... then set them gothether la...

actually... for tellin slot 1 is better than slot 2 or 3... its more like 'syirik' to me... but somehow ppl will try it... tongue.gif

*ops.. fogot la... wat 'syirik' in english??? tongue.gif


for who still confuse...

i think all d43 will have SPD at CL3... but usually u can set them to CL2.5 & CL2 ( only some stick can but da fsb will limited to around 200 fsb only )

most ocer will use 2.5-4-3-X or 2.5-4-4-x

X = 11 (nf2)
= 5 (p4)
= 6/7 (a64)

2.5-3-3-x usually wont go hi... will end at around 210-235 fsb...

some can do 2-2-2-11 on nf7 on certain bios... but i think its bios wit cpc off ... can get tighest timin but u oredi decrease da bandwith... so same la... sweat.gif

so set ur d43 to 2.5-4-3-x ( tighest ) or 3-4-4-x & oc as hi u can go...

* for 512mb stick on nf2 platform... u need to CPC OFF to oc futher... let say for normal case u will end at 230~240 fsb... wit cpc off will cont oc till 250~260+... but again u oredi decrease da bandwith... but u got no choice... so u need to CPC OFF...


epsilon992

dats is burn in method... but as i kno... only winbond chipset can be burn in... no other chipset can go higher tru dis kind of burnin...

from u post... u say u use 3.3vdimm on ur d43??? AFAIK... d43 will make error if u put 3.0vdimm & higher... or can say 3vdimm is max da ram can tolerate... rolleyes.gif
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Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb?
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM)
Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb?
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can...mine 1 can only do until 215 but cpc-off...
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QUOTE(stalkerrox @ Apr 11 2005, 11:55 PM)
Can BT-D43 do 2-2-2-11 @ 200 Fsb?
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on normal case... kenot...

but on nf7 or nf7s... got 1 bios wit cpc off ( if im not mistakenly la - im not nf7s user tongue.gif )...

wit dis bios... da cpc will automaticly turned off...

then can set 2-2-2-11 but with less bandwith coz of cpc off...

other brand nf2... kenot la... even u cpc off...

so da answer can & cannot la... tongue.gif

EDIT: there are some cases where d43 can do 2-2-2-11 not on abit board... can pass memtest but not real prime... wink.gif

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post Apr 12 2005, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(lingling @ Apr 11 2005, 09:35 PM)
wahh .... ram got MEMORY EFFECT kah !!!
can be trained like tat ... jus like real pet
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Yap. Threat them like puppy. And train them like a puppy. Very soon, they will call me uncle ep (as in Scrappy Doo and Scooby Doo). I can ask them go 220. They go 220. Go 250 they go 250. No bad heh. Only too bad cannot train them to shake hand with me.

QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Apr 11 2005, 11:22 PM)
epsilon992

dats is burn in method...  but as i kno... only winbond chipset can be burn in... no other chipset can go higher tru dis kind of burnin...

from u post... u say u use 3.3vdimm on ur d43??? AFAIK... d43 will make error if u put 3.0vdimm & higher... or can say 3vdimm is max da ram can tolerate...  rolleyes.gif
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I know it is burn in method. Initially, my understanding is hynix at >3.0v can get error. I was just play play, with 2.8v and got error at low fsb. Then I just tried to increased by 0.1v just to see how and found ok. So just slowly go and go and now at max 3.3v. And I am now testing at 275mhz. Not with memtester, but simmtester software which is less tough. The idea is just burn in both ram and mobo.

Now little bit worry. After burning at so high. Later on, the whole thing just damaged. Oh well. Then got excuse to go to 939.

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QUOTE(epsilon99 @ Apr 12 2005, 02:30 AM)
Yap.  Threat them like puppy. And train them like a puppy.  Very soon, they will call me uncle ep (as in Scrappy Doo and Scooby Doo).  I can ask them go 220.  They go 220.  Go 250 they go 250.  No bad heh.  Only too bad cannot train them to shake hand with me.
I know it is burn in method.  Initially, my understanding is hynix at >3.0v can get error.  I was just play play, with 2.8v and got error at low fsb.  Then I just tried to increased by 0.1v just to see how and found ok.  So just slowly go and go and now at max 3.3v.  And I am now testing at 275mhz.  Not with memtester, but simmtester software which is less tough.  The idea is just burn in both ram and mobo.

Now little bit worry.  After burning at so high.  Later on, the whole thing just damaged.  Oh well. Then got excuse to go to 939.
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last time i'm also burn my BT-D43 at 3.2V until now nothing. Everything fine. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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