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TSdarkknight81
post Mar 31 2010, 12:55 PM, updated 14y ago

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RCECAP 9296

Reasons for me to pick up RCECAP

As of 31-December-2009.

1. NET ASSET PER SHARE = 50 CENTS.

2. 3 Months EPS ended 31-December-2009 2.67 CENTS. Base on 2.67 cents we can roughly project 2010 EPS to be around 10.68 cents.

My entry price 67 cents. Which is trading at PE of around 6.27 TIMES!!!

Remarks : As the interest payment is expected to be a constant income so we don expect reduce in EPS in future.


EPS TRACK RECORD

2003 -5.89 CENTS (Just started their Ah Long business)

2004 4.09 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue and share split)

2005 2.78 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue)

2006 3.69 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue)

2007 9.98 CENTS

2009 9.36 CENTS

2010 (E) 10.68 CENTS

EPS will not really reflect in terms of growth as there are a lot of bonus issue and share split just for reference purpose. Net Profit will be the right tool to gauge RCECAP GROWTH RATES.

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post Mar 31 2010, 01:20 PM

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NET PROFIT

2004 21.9 Million

2005 14,89 Million

2006 19.8 Million

2007 63.37 Million

2008 50.59 Million

2009 66.55 Million

Can anyone explain why there is a 200% jump in terms of Net Profit for 2007?

Net Profit grow at 200% in 5 years time!!!
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post Mar 31 2010, 01:34 PM

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Conratz threader became Ah Long............
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post Mar 31 2010, 01:38 PM

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Ah Long in term of = Big Ear Hole ?
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post Mar 31 2010, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(shoduken @ Mar 31 2010, 01:38 PM)
Ah Long in term of = Big Ear Hole ?
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This Ah Long is very special one.

The government is helping them to collect back payments.

Bad loans are quite low.

The annual loan growth rate is more than 20%.

ON par with PBB or even higher.

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post Mar 31 2010, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:42 PM)
This Ah Long is very special one.

The government is helping them to collect back payments.

Bad loans are quite low.

The annual loan growth rate is more than 20%.

ON par with PBB or even  higher.
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Yup. Actually i was thinking of entering QL resource which have almost 20% growth rate. But after considering RCE which have even high growth rates and low PE i choose RCECAP.

This counter as long as you can sit tight for another 5 years you will surely be rewarded heftily. I will keep on topping up this counter before its break 70 cents. It should be priced way above RM 1.00

But this is a small cap company and the major shareholder already owned 50% so if fund manager want to goreng up should be quite easy.

One possibility is they might want to privatize RCECAP and put it under AMBANK. New competitor should be highly unlikely as this type of market is small and it will not contribute much to those big banks earnings.

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post Mar 31 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 31 2010, 01:44 PM)
Yup. Actually i was thinking of entering QL resource which have almost 20% growth rate. But after considering RCE which have even high growth rates and low PE i choose RCECAP.
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One thing , they have the monopoly in this type of business.

Banks are not allowed to compete with them.

From reported news in internet.

Reason: could be restricted Ah Long licence , like our Genting Casino.

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post Mar 31 2010, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:48 PM)
One thing , they have the monopoly in this type of business.

Banks are not allowed to compete with them.

From reported news in internet.
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I just wonder the banks ruling do apply to RCECAP? I mean like the tier 1 tier 2 capital adequecy ratio?


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post Mar 31 2010, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 31 2010, 01:50 PM)
I just wonder the banks ruling do apply to RCECAP? I mean like the tier 1 tier 2 capital adequecy ratio?
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They do not come under the Banking Acts.

They are not allowed to take FD deposits from outsiders either.
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post Mar 31 2010, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:52 PM)
They do not come under the Banking Acts.

They are not allowed to take FD deposits from outsiders either.
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Thats y i am wondering how do they get their cash from? Borrowings from banks? That is the answer i want to find out.

I am going to compile the debts and net profit growth track record to see the differences.


Added on March 31, 2010, 1:58 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:48 PM)
One thing , they have the monopoly in this type of business.

Banks are not allowed to compete with them.

From reported news in internet.

Reason:  could be restricted Ah Long licence , like our  Genting Casino.
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Good one Sky tai kor. notworthy.gif I love this one . Make me want to sell off some of my ytlpower to top up some more RCECAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 31 2010, 01:56 PM)
Thats y i am wondering how do they get their cash from? Borrowings from banks? That is the answer i want to find out.
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From private placements and could be supported by Ambank ( same boss )

Ambank is quite active in giving out personal loans too.
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:58 PM)
From private placements and could be supported by Ambank ( same boss )

Ambank is quite active in giving out personal loans too.
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i was wondering if they can borrowed from banks? But i checked at their report they have around 200 over million of cash in hand.
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 31 2010, 02:01 PM)
i was wondering if they can borrowed from banks? But i checked at their report they have around 200 over million of cash in hand.
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Why not .

Even banks like PBB and CIMB also take loans by way of bonds.

They also borrow from you ( FDs )
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 03:08 PM)
Why not .

Even banks like PBB and CIMB also take loans by way of bonds.

They also borrow from you ( FDs )
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Not me but other ppl as i don save my money in FD tongue.gif

I want to dig out the interest they charge to those government servant. And is the rate fix or floating type?
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post Mar 31 2010, 02:48 PM

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Banks plan to enter lucrative civil servant sector
By RISEN JAYASEELAN


risen@thestar.com.my

KUALA LUMPUR: A number of commercial banks are planning to break into the lucrative market of lending to government employees after being allowed to make automatic salary deductions.

Presently, only credit cooperatives and a number of government-owned financial institutions are provided with the special codes that allow these salary deductions.

It is understood that the move is aimed at liberalising the landscape in order to benefit the borrowers, namely the over one million government employees.

The entry of commercial banks should spell lower interest rates and better service levels but may also jeopardise the profitability of existing players.

The market for these loans is huge.

According to a document obtained by StarBiz, civil servants forked out a whopping RM590mil in loan repayments for the month of August alone under this scheme.

It does seem to be a great business to be in.

The government-initiated monthly salary deduction means that the loans are virtually risk free, keeping non-performing loan levels extremely low.

The key body involved is the National Cooperative Organisation of Malaysia, or Angkasa, the national union integrating the various cooperatives in Malaysia.

Over the years, Angkasa has built a robust interface system with the Accountant-General’s office that enables the salary deductions.

The approved lenders – the 450-odd credit cooperatives and government-owned financial institutions such as Bank Rakyat, Malaysia Building Society,

Bank Simpanan Nasional and Agrobank – have to use Angkasa’s services for the deductions.

Angkasa netted RM6.3mil in transaction fees in August alone.

To be sure, commercial banks are already in the business.

But their role has been limited to funding those holding the Angkasa codes.

Public-listed RCE Capital has made a profitable business out of funding three cooperatives to reach government servants.

Due to the many layers involved, the interest rates on the loans to government employees have historically been high.

But competition among the existing players has driven down rates to an average of 5% to 6% presently.

Still, if commercial banks are allowed in the market, interest rates can be driven down more, considering their lower cost of funds and the lower risk involved due to the banks’ ability to “garnish” the salaries of borrowers.

That, in turn, can lead to existing borrowers migrating to the commercial banks.

And that can spell trouble for existing players.

The status quo, however, is unlikely to be rocked overnight.

The interested commercial banks are believed to be working on building an electronic interface similar to what Angkasa has.

Due to the complexity of such a system, it may take months before it is up and running.

Furthermore, Angkasa is unlikely to open its system up to the newcomers.

Angkasa’s members are the cooperatives involved and they have their rationale for keeping things as they are.

Angkasa vice-president Mustapa Kamal Maulut said: “The profits that Angkasa make are channelled back into society in the form of free training programmes on skill development for cooperative members.

"Opening up the market to other players could hurt Angkasa’s bottom line and hence these activities.”

Another concern is that with cheaper loans available to them, civil servants may be tempted to borrow more.

Former chief executive of Malaysia Building Society, Ahmad Farid Omar, said more checks needed to be in the system to ensure there was no over-borrowing.

“There should be some way of determining that loans should only be given for productive purposes such as buying of land. An unnecessary high debt level among civil servants can lead to all sorts of problems,” he said.

Still, the argument for liberalisation does make sense.

There must be other ways to fund the cooperatives’ social objectives without denying the benefits that a freer market place will bring to the country’s civil servants.

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post Mar 31 2010, 03:34 PM

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another piece of news that might affect RCECAP positively...

No commercial bank access into civil servant mart - 06 March 2010
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post Mar 31 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Mar 31 2010, 04:34 PM)
another piece of news that might affect RCECAP positively...

No commercial bank access into civil servant mart  - 06 March 2010
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Thanks!!! Moppy Besides, our beloved PM want to transform MALAYSIA into a high income economy. So i believe government servant salary will be adjusted sooner or later this will enable them to loan even more!!!

66 cents now !!! rclxms.gif My next target entry price 60 cents biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Mar 31 2010, 12:55 PM)
RCECAP 9296

Reasons for me to pick up RCECAP

As of 31-December-2009.

1. NET ASSET PER SHARE = 50 CENTS.

2. 3 Months EPS ended 31-December-2009 2.67 CENTS. Base on 2.67 cents we can roughly project 2010 EPS to be around 10.68 cents.

My entry price 67 cents. Which is trading at PE of around 6.27 TIMES!!!

Remarks : As the interest payment is expected to be a constant income so we don expect reduce in EPS in future.
EPS TRACK RECORD

2003   -5.89 CENTS (Just started their Ah Long business)

2004   4.09 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue and share split)

2005   2.78 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue)

2006   3.69 CENTS (Adjusted for bonus issue)

2007   9.98 CENTS  

2009    9.36 CENTS

2010 (E) 10.68 CENTS

EPS will not really reflect in terms of growth as there are a lot of bonus issue and share split just for reference purpose. Net Profit will be the right tool to gauge RCECAP GROWTH RATES.
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RCECAP is a very good counter when you talk about value investing. I have been holding the shares for 5 years. Unfortunately the company is very bad in investor relation, not good at all in promoting itself. The price has remain range bound all this while. It doesnt pay much dividend coz it's capital intensive.. Pretty disappointed with this counter.


Added on March 31, 2010, 4:54 pm
QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Mar 31 2010, 01:34 PM)
Conratz threader became Ah Long............
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Exactly! Interest and repayment deducted directly from pay. Minimal default and NPL.


Added on March 31, 2010, 4:55 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 01:48 PM)
One thing , they have the monopoly in this type of business.

Banks are not allowed to compete with them.

From reported news in internet.

Reason:  could be restricted Ah Long licence , like our  Genting Casino.
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Correct me if I am wrong. It doesnt have monopoly anymore. Some banks, eg Bank Rakyat, are doing the same thing. Aeon Credit is another company doing that, but more on motorbikes..


Added on March 31, 2010, 4:57 pm
QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Mar 31 2010, 01:52 PM)
They do not come under the Banking Acts.

They are not allowed to take FD deposits from outsiders either.
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That's why they need a lot of capital hence dividend payout is minimal.

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post Apr 3 2010, 09:33 AM

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Public-listed RCE Capital has made a profitable business out of funding three cooperatives to reach government servants


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The approved lenders – the 450-odd credit cooperatives and government-owned financial institutions such as Bank Rakyat, Malaysia Building Society,  Bank Simpanan Nasional and Agrobank – have to use Angkasa’s services for the deductions.


Does that means RCECAP is servicing only 3 coorperatives out from 450?
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post Apr 3 2010, 11:29 AM

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RCE Capital Bhd’s attractive lending yields to drive earnings  January 28, 2010, Thursday  KUCHING: RCE Capital Bhd’s (RCE Capital) strong business model which focuses on the provision of financing to civil servants at attractive interest rates of 10 to 12 per cent will continue to enhance its earnings.CIMB Investment Bank Bhd (CIMB) in a research report yesterday cited that earnings prospects for RCE Capital remains bright.  It observed that consensus was projecting solid net profit growth of 12 per cent to 18 per cent per year over the next three years, supported by 18 per cent to 29 per cent expansion of the loan base. The research firm also noted that default rates were low at about 3 per cent.  Meanwhile, CIMB stated that RCE Capital was a small financial services company with RM1.28 billion in total assets and a loan base of RM952 million.  It said most of its income was generated from the lending business, with interest income comprising 77.1 per cent of its total revenue and commission income made up 18.8 per cent of revenue.  It pointed out that RCE Capital’s business focused on consumer financing, which accounted for 96 per cent of its loan base as compared with 2.5 per cent from the factoring operations.  CIMB observed that more than 90 per cent of RCE Capital’s loan book came from personal loans to public sector employees through Angkatan Koperasi Kebangsaan Malaysia (Angkasa), a centralised collection agency for cooperatives in Malaysia.  It added that with the assistance of Angkasa, monthly repayments were made through the deduction of borrowers’ salaries.  The research firm noted that this arrangement gave RCE Capital the upper hand of the repayments of borrowing, thus minimising default risks. At the same time, CIMB noted that RCE Capital’s market share of civil servant loans was merely 2.8 per cent.  It said the biggest player is Bank Kerjasama Rakyat Malaysia Bhd (Bank Rakyat) with 50 per cent followed by Bank Simpanan Nasional at 12 per cent and Bank Pertanian Malaysia 5 per cent.  On the flipside, CIMB highlighted that as RCE Capital did not have a deposit-taking licence, its operations was primarily financed by debts. It pointed out that the group had total borrowings of RM920.7 million as compared with a loan book of RM924.1 million.  It said the financing came mainly from its RM1.5 billion asset-backed programme and RM420 million medium-term notes.  Nevertheless, RCE Capital’s other investment was its 7.9 per cent stake in AmFirst Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) apart from its financing business.  To recap, AmFirst REIT is a property investment company with a portfolio that includes Bangunan AmBank with a value of RM226 million, Menara AmBank (RM292 million); The Summit (RM284 million); Kelana Brem (RM105 million) and Menara Merais (RM64 million).  CIMB said these properties had high occupancy rates averaging 89 per cent whilst AmFirst REIT recorded a 60.9 per cent increase in revenue to RM93.1 million in financial year 2009.  CIMB also observed that RCE Capital experienced explosive loan growth in 2005 to 2009 with a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 69.7 per cent as its focus on the lending to civil servants started to produce results.  It believed that the development helped RCE Capital to expand its revenue by a CAGR of 31.6 per cent in the same period. However, due to the increase in overheads needed to sustain the swift business expansion, RCE Capital’s net profit registered a slower CAGR of 24.9 per cent in 2005 to 2009.  Positively, CIMB estimated that RCE Capital’s bottomline growth remained strong at 31.5 per cent in financial year 2009, supported by a 63.3 per cent expansion of revenue.  The research firm projected net earnings growth of 12 per cent to 18 per cent per year for financial year 2010 to 2012 on a 10 per cent to 16 per cent annual rise in revenue.  It said the key earnings drivers were expected to be healthy expansion of the loan base and attractive lending yields.  CIMB believed that yields on earnings assets will be sustained at the financial year 2008 to 2009 levels of 12 per cent to 16 per cent. Going forward, it noted that RCE Capital’s growth is expected to come from consumer lending, especially personal loans to public sector employees.  It highlighted that RCE Capital will continue to pursue organic growth, increase market reach and seek other growth engines such as exploring opportunistic acquisitions and investments.  On the downside, it noted that RCE Capital will face competition from commercial banks for its business, higher cost of funds as compared with commercial banks due to its business model as a non-deposit taking company, concentration risk and less sophisticated risk management system.



The research firm noted that this arrangement gave RCE Capital the upper hand of the repayments of borrowing, thus minimising default risks. At the same time, CIMB noted that RCE Capital’s market share of civil servant loans was merely 2.8 per cent.

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