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Financial 1st Time Property Buyer, Loan Eligibility - Loan Types - Etc Fees

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post Mar 30 2010, 06:21 PM, updated 15y ago

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post Mar 30 2010, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 30 2010, 06:21 PM)

I would have to say that I have pretty healthy financial standing. No Credit Cards, No Car Loan, No Personal Loan...a pretty clean slate I would say. I'm sure that will be an strong-hold point whilst applying for an loan right? tongue.gif 

Looking forward for some productive advice and suggestions. Thank You.

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not necessary good cos the financial institutions not able to judge your repayment ability and status.....for example, they don't know if you always pay on time or not given that there is no record


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post Mar 30 2010, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(leongal @ Mar 30 2010, 08:04 PM)
not necessary good cos the financial institutions not able to judge your repayment ability and status.....for example, they don't know if you always pay on time or not given that there is no record
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2nd this. No record doesn't mean goooood, owing some of money but paying deadly on time will be better biggrin.gif

Basic of RM4000, probably nets you a loan of RM300k-380k for 30years

You need to pay
Downpayment of house
SPA Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement
Loan Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement , Valuation (if there are any)
Maintenance/Sinking Fund Deposit
Touching up of the house, renovations, furniture bla bla bla,
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post Mar 30 2010, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2010, 08:27 PM)
2nd this. No record doesn't mean goooood, owing some of money but paying deadly on time will be better biggrin.gif

Basic of RM4000, probably nets you a loan of RM300k-380k for 30years

You need to pay
Downpayment of house
SPA Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement
Loan Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement , Valuation (if there are any)
Maintenance/Sinking Fund Deposit
Touching up of the house, renovations, furniture bla bla bla,
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Thanks for the heads up...how about Graduate Home Loan Schemes? Is that an option?


Added on March 30, 2010, 8:39 pm
QUOTE(leongal @ Mar 30 2010, 08:04 PM)
not necessary good cos the financial institutions not able to judge your repayment ability and status.....for example, they don't know if you always pay on time or not given that there is no record
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Well thats something new. Having an clean slate of neither outstanding debts nor any financial commitments doesn't work towards any benefits then huh.... tongue.gif

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post Mar 30 2010, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Mar 30 2010, 08:27 PM)
2nd this. No record doesn't mean goooood, owing some of money but paying deadly on time will be better biggrin.gif

Basic of RM4000, probably nets you a loan of RM300k-380k for 30years

You need to pay
Downpayment of house
SPA Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement
Loan Legal Fees + Stamp Duty + Disbursement , Valuation (if there are any)
Maintenance/Sinking Fund Deposit
Touching up of the house, renovations, furniture bla bla bla,
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I would say closer to 250,000 RM mortgage, on the basis of the 1/3rd Gross Income rule.
Don't over stretch unless you have a generous family!
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post Mar 30 2010, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(terzam @ Mar 30 2010, 08:40 PM)
I would say closer to 250,000 RM mortgage, on the basis of the 1/3rd Gross Income rule.
Don't over stretch unless you have a generous family!
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Heard that the there are financial insitutions offering upto 50% of basic salary coverage for repayment....
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post Mar 30 2010, 09:43 PM

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Its better to have a credit card, where you spend and repay back regularly. This shows that you are a good paymaster. However, this shouldn't affect your chances of getting a loan too much.

As for the graduate loan schemes, I'm not sure if you are still entitled for it, you have to ask the banker. These loan schemes usually allow you to have a lower, fixed -% BLR rate for the entire tenure.

For your case, I think its better to take flexi-loan. This is because you can easily dump in money when you get your bonuses, and also increase your monthly installment when you have pay increment.

Bear in mind that due to BNM ruling, there's no more ZEC/ZMC loan packages anymore.

Please include MRTA in your plan as well.

1/3 rule is about ideal, but 1/2 is about the max you should stretch. Any higher than that its actually quite risky already.
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post Mar 30 2010, 09:48 PM

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Hi Xai-V-iaX,

Just PM'ed you.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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post Mar 30 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Mar 30 2010, 09:43 PM)
Its better to have a credit card, where you spend and repay back regularly. This shows that you are a good paymaster. However, this shouldn't affect your chances of getting a loan too much.

As for the graduate loan schemes, I'm not sure if you are still entitled for it, you have to ask the banker. These loan schemes usually allow you to have a lower, fixed -% BLR rate for the entire tenure.

For your case, I think its better to take flexi-loan. This is because you can easily dump in money when you get your bonuses, and also increase your monthly installment when you have pay increment.

Bear in mind that due to BNM ruling, there's no more ZEC/ZMC loan packages anymore.

Please include MRTA in your plan as well.

1/3 rule is about ideal, but 1/2 is about the max you should stretch. Any higher than that its actually quite risky already.
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I'm quite surprised that BNM has abolished the ZEC/ZMC loan packages. blink.gif
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 30 2010, 08:41 PM)
Heard that the there are financial insitutions offering upto 50% of basic salary coverage for repayment....
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Yes, it is allowed.

Generally not advisable, unless, you are financially discipline and have some financial reserves (for when you are out of work, and when there's a
sudden spike in expenses for the month etc)... This will also mean you may have difficulty applying for other loans such as personal loan, car loan etc.

Again, with BLR rates expected to rise in the foreseeable future -> means your repayment MAY rise (if the flexible variable rate mortgage is chosen), over stretching yourself is not advisable.

I have seen this many times...
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post Mar 30 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(terzam @ Mar 30 2010, 11:01 PM)
Yes, it is allowed.

Generally not advisable, unless, you are financially discipline and have some financial reserves (for when you are out of work, and when there's a
sudden spike in expenses for the month etc)... This will also mean you may have difficulty applying for other loans such as personal loan, car loan etc.

Again, with BLR rates expected to rise in the foreseeable future -> means your repayment MAY rise (if the flexible variable rate mortgage is chosen), over stretching yourself is not advisable.

I have seen this many times...
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Thanks for the sound advice. Seems like its kinda almost impossible to generate an loan amount around RM600k with the figure I'm earning at the moment. Wonder how do people still could afford to pay or apply for higher loan judging by the fact that property prices at a decent established area are rising constantly.
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 30 2010, 11:05 PM)
Thanks for the sound advice. Seems like its kinda almost impossible to generate an loan amount around RM600k with the figure I'm earning at the moment. Wonder how do people still could afford to pay or apply for higher loan judging by the fact that property prices at a decent established area are rising constantly.
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by getting an extra party to be the guarantor
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post Mar 30 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(louyeh @ Mar 30 2010, 11:41 PM)
by getting an extra party to be the guarantor
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How about having an co-borrower?
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 30 2010, 11:42 PM)
How about having an co-borrower?
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co-borrower = guarantor

you can have persons A, B,C taking up one loan package but have only A's name on the SPA.
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QUOTE(louyeh @ Mar 30 2010, 11:45 PM)
co-borrower = guarantor

you can have persons A, B,C taking up one loan package but have only A's name on the SPA.
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Owh ok...that's something that I have overlooked. So in my situation now, what would be the ideal choice assuming I would be needing an loan figure of about RM600k - RM650k? Lets say I have an co-borrower with earning strength of RM2.5k (monthly salary) + RM1.5k (fixed investments income), would that be sufficient for me to get an loan around the desired figure that I'm looking at....?
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 30 2010, 11:49 PM)
Owh ok...that's something that I have overlooked. So in my situation now, what would be the ideal choice assuming I would be needing an loan figure of about RM600k - RM650k? Lets say I have an co-borrower with earning strength of RM2.5k (monthly salary) + RM1.5k (fixed investments income), would that be sufficient for me to get an loan around the desired figure that I'm looking at....?
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its quite possible.

id suggest to not take MRTA if you have sufficient financial backings to cover the property in the event of any unforeseen circumstances. itll just skyrocket the interest paid to the bank (extra commission to the loan officer).

the advertised interest rates can be negotiated. it just depends on your skill to lower it down.
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QUOTE(louyeh @ Mar 30 2010, 11:59 PM)
its quite possible.

id suggest to not take MRTA if you have sufficient financial backings to cover the property in the event of any unforeseen circumstances. itll just skyrocket the interest paid to the bank (extra commission to the loan officer).

the advertised interest rates can be negotiated. it just depends on your skill to lower it down.
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Hmmm, I'll take that point into consideration. How are the interest rates currently? Also, when you say negotiate the interest rate with the banks, how are this normally done? Negotiate with the manager? Under what circumstances would this negotiations be successful? What are the pints that needs to be aired to wrestle for an better interest rate?
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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Mar 31 2010, 12:04 AM)
Hmmm, I'll take that point into consideration. How are the interest rates currently? Also, when you say negotiate the interest rate with the banks, how are this normally done? Negotiate with the manager? Under what circumstances would this negotiations be successful? What are the pints that needs to be aired to wrestle for an better interest rate?
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if you could speak to the manager then its an instant answer else youd just have to wait for a reply from the loan officer.

interest rates are quite low so its going to be a difficult time asking for better figures unless you have a leverage.
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QUOTE(louyeh @ Mar 31 2010, 12:07 AM)
if you could speak to the manager then its an instant answer else youd just have to wait for a reply from the loan officer.

interest rates are quite low so its going to be a difficult time asking for better figures unless you have a leverage.
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You mean negotiating the loan deal with manager could be faster in terms of processing period?
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With the earning of RM4k (even with no other commitment), isn't it a bit quite heavy / burden to buy a property of RM450k to RM600k?

Buying a house worth RM450k - RM50k (down payment), and max out your loan period, I think repayment per month is about RM2k.

So RM4k (don't include EPF and income tax deduction) - RM2k = RM2k left for food, petrol, savings etc.

Since you mentioned that you are planning to stay in the house, unless you have big cash reserve or a family who can backed you up, my opinion is RM450k to RM600k for your income is a bit out of range.

Some issues for you to consider: Earning RM2,500 -> Just got a new job, new salary RM4,000 -> Buy a property RM450k to RM600k = A bit high risk. What if your new job is not stable / loose the job? How many months of cash reserve do you have if you loose your job and able to pay your loan + living expenses?

You can always buy a smaller house now and upgrade to a bigger house later on.

Just sharing my opinion ya... not intending to put cold water

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