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yangpl
post Mar 28 2010, 09:04 PM


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Wat is the difference between petrof and yamaha piano? Pls descript their advantages and disadvantages.
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post Mar 28 2010, 10:03 PM


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QUOTE(yangpl @ Mar 28 2010, 09:04 PM)
Wat is the difference between petrof and yamaha piano? Pls descript their advantages and disadvantages.
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upright or grand ?
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post Mar 28 2010, 11:45 PM


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QUOTE(subangman @ Mar 28 2010, 10:03 PM)
upright or grand ?
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post Mar 29 2010, 09:32 AM


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please specify the model. Yamaha pianos can come from Indonesia, China and Japan. Japan-make being the better quality of all. On the other hand, Petrof pianos come from Czech Republic.

The Piano Market Today http://www.pianobuyer.com/pages/37.html

Piano Performance Grade Comparison http://www.pianobuyer.com/pages/47.html
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post Mar 29 2010, 02:53 PM


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QUOTE(jhp @ Mar 29 2010, 09:32 AM)
please specify the model. Yamaha pianos can come from Indonesia, China and Japan. Japan-make being the better quality of all. On the other hand, Petrof pianos come from Czech Republic.

The Piano Market Today http://www.pianobuyer.com/pages/37.html

Piano Performance Grade Comparison http://www.pianobuyer.com/pages/47.html
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JHP did not explain more in detail. It does not matter whether it is upright or grand. Yamaha is a japanese piano and Petrof is a Czech piano. Japanese and American piano are meant for jazz and pop music. European piano like petrof, weinbach are for classical music. The touch and the sound is really different. What does PIANO mean? Soft! Regarding the price. Why petrof is more expensive than yamaha. First is the technology and petrof is still handcrafted! More detail you can email me at max_lee888@hotmail.com. If you have the time you can go to the only piano factory in malaysia where they can explain more in detail.
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post Mar 30 2010, 12:19 PM


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Both are well-established pianos. However, there are qualitative differences between these two pianos in almost every area of construction, design, and execution. They have different rim construction, different soundboard material, different cast iron plates, different action quality, etc. In each case, the Petrof piano was well thought out to use a sizably more expensive material and method of construction. The goal is to offer an instrument that will perform to a higher level for a longer period of time.

First, there is definitely a difference in design, parts and materials, and the general level of fit and finish between the instruments, that leads to the tonal and appearance differences. But the reason for these differences is what is most important, and this is the general philosophy behind the making of these instruments.

Petrof is aiming to create a limited production performance instrument of the highest level and the design of the instrument. including the parts and materials used and level of fit and finish are all true to this philosophy. They have a certain ideal tone in mind, and they try to reach it when cost is a secondary consideration. On the other hand, Yamaha too is making a performance-oriented piano in their high-end series that is the YUS series. And you can see that the YUS is substantially more expensive then the U then the JX/LU series.

That is the reason why i ask which model you are comparing with in the Yamaha pianos.

As for the tone, most jazz or rock in a band would prefer the Yamaha tone since it tone character tends to be thinner and with strong initial attack of the volume which can cut through the rest of the bands. then there are the other Jazz pianists, when looking for a piano to be used primarily as a solo instrument at home, seem to be looking for a different type of sound qualities, and they are overwhelmingly to prefer the tone of the Petrof, which have a lot of "sound", a very long sustain and a very round sound, as well as a very rich tonal colour. And mostly, who play classical and especially romantic music requiring a lot of sustain and different tonal colours, often make the most "die hard" Petrof pianos.

As for the touch, generally between the two petrof tends to feel little heavier than the yamaha. this includes other makers as there is no standard touch weight and vary from 40 grams to 70 grams. different action design leads to differences in leverage, mass of various parts, and frictional resistance yield piano actions that play very differently. lighter touch is easy to play but dont assume that a lighter touch is always better. In fact, most advanced musicians like to feel a touch that is anywhere from 52 to 58 grams. piano that is too light will have no feedback from the piano back to the player. and of course touch that is too heavy will lead to arms and fingers tire easily and sensitive control is gone.

End of the day, both are quality pianos (of course selected models on the Yamaha) and have differences in tone characteristic. there is no right or a wrong tone just which tone you prefer. happy shopping...

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post Mar 30 2010, 12:35 PM


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It is difficult to explain to you. If you have the chance you can visit our showrooms in KL or Ipoh. Our factory is in Ipoh. Tell me you location so i can ask my staff to explain to you the difference in tones and we will open up the whole piano to explain in details on the piano. We have a huge selections of the Petrof, Weinbach, Yamaha, Kawai, Baratt Robinson, Challen and etc either brand new or secondhand. Feel free to email me at peterh@Live.com.my.
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post Apr 6 2010, 05:20 PM


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I have played on a Petrof and Challen and I seriously love petrof!

ml888, can you pm me on the cost of a good 2nd hand petrof? thks

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post Apr 6 2010, 06:04 PM


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QUOTE(yangpl @ Mar 28 2010, 11:45 PM)
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i got both @ home... petrof upright... yamaha GCP1..... honestly i am the SANTA .. i prefer the upright but my gals like the GCP1.

they play it .. so i no choice... 'melted by my gals'
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post Apr 6 2010, 07:00 PM


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QUOTE(Skydrop @ Apr 6 2010, 05:20 PM)
I have played on a Petrof and Challen and I seriously love petrof!

ml888, can you pm me on the cost of a good 2nd hand petrof?  thks
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Skydrop, thanks for your message and i have just replied you.
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