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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
All you need to do to use it is to have your laptop network card in DHCP mode (no static IP set, obtain automatically) and plug it into the *red* IPTV port on the back of your TM DIR-615 router. When it gets an IP in the 10.x.x.x range, open up the playlist file in VLC and select the channel you want to watch.


doh.gif I thought the set top box was still connected to the iptv port on the DIR-615 and at the same time you managed to stream it to your laptop wirelessly from the DIR-615. Wishful thinking but I thought my little bro could watch Cbeebies downstairs on the TV and I could watch FashionTV in my room.


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For those of you who have complained about the IPTV picture's poor quality and 'flickering'/'shaking'..


is it caused by PCR jitter?
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
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However, it seems that less than 24 hours after I posted the screenshot of me running Luxe HD on my laptop's Windows Media Center along with some configuration info, TM either by random luck or by monitoring this forum thread decided to scramble the Luxe HD stream. I really don't see the point in this except to force us to use their lame set top box. Other ISPs which provide IPTV also provide their users an m3u playlist with the channel names and UDP multicast addresses so that they may connect to their IPTV service via their PCs. Furthermore, if people wanted to 'pirate' the content they would just use a HDMI capture card if the streams were scrambled.

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I think you yourself are not surprised that Unifi staff are also in this forum or even their NOC people are monitoring. But I am pretty sure that they are learning from your quality postings. You are doing and exploring stuffs that they should know about and embarassing many of their network people.
QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
I still think their STB is shit (lack of recording feature, laggy, etc) and by forcing us to use it, it makes their IPTV service shit too. For those of you who have complained about the IPTV picture's poor quality and 'flickering'/'shaking'.. its not due to their stream but rather because of the crap STB itself. I had excellent IPTV image quality when using my PC as a media center (not to mention the ability record and rewind streams). So petition to TM to unencrypt the streams and maybe we can have some better quality IPTV here.

I hope that Unifi take note of this comment and try do something to improve matters. This is a voice of one of their customers, though not an ordinary one at that. biggrin.gif
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While some unifi staff may thank you for exploring all these possibilities, I can assure you that the ones higher up most likely do NOT appreciate this. You may want to stop sharing details of what you are doing and keep it to yourself (and maybe people you know directly) since all this is most likely a breach of the ToS.

Showing security flaws to ISPs rarely results in anything good... unless you like threats of legal action and service cancellations *cough*TIME*cough* :]
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Hi Guys,

Got a question. I am a currently using Streamyx 1Mbps package (RM99 monthly) staying at Bangsar area. The place I am staying always get struck by lightning and my equipment always got hit by it (even with Surge protector also no use) and the speed is slow most of the time.

In this kind of scenario, do you think I should upgrade it to Unifi? If I do upgrade, will there still be a high chance of the equipments getting hit by lightning? I know this is a luck question, but still I am wondering what would you do in this kind of scenario.

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
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Anyway, just posting an update on the IPTV on PC subject.

When I first noticed that VLAN 500 (internet) had a PPPoE layer but VLAN 600 (IPTV) did not, I assumed the IPTV streams were open for browsing without authentication. I got to work and managed to get it running on my PC.

However, it seems that less than 24 hours after I posted the screenshot of me running Luxe HD on my laptop's Windows Media Center along with some configuration info, TM either by random luck or by monitoring this forum thread decided to scramble the Luxe HD stream. I really don't see the point in this except to force us to use their lame set top box. Other ISPs which provide IPTV also provide their users an m3u playlist with the channel names and UDP multicast addresses so that they may connect to their IPTV service via their PCs. Furthermore, if people wanted to 'pirate' the content they would just use a HDMI capture card if the streams were scrambled.

I'd go into descrambling the streams (basically what the STB does) but it's illegal and would be like trying to tap into paid satellite broadcasts using software emulation. Except in this case it's a fiber optic cable pulled directly into your home so I doubt anyone is going to tap the line in the first place.

Right now, the only streams which are not scrambled are the PIP (picture in picture) streams which use the h264 codec @ 320x240(?) res which is basically like watching a Youtube video in standard def. There's really no point in me posting the media center configuration guide but if you guys are still interested in light channel surfing via your wireless router, the PIP streams are pretty okay to watch and only require VLC player and a single m3u playlist file.

I'm going to attach the playlist file I made which contains all the channel -> multicast address information. All you need to do to use it is to have your laptop network card in DHCP mode (no static IP set, obtain automatically) and plug it into the *red* IPTV port on the back of your TM DIR-615 router. When it gets an IP in the 10.x.x.x range, open up the playlist file in VLC and select the channel you want to watch.

I still think their STB is shit (lack of recording feature, laggy, etc) and by forcing us to use it, it makes their IPTV service shit too. For those of you who have complained about the IPTV picture's poor quality and 'flickering'/'shaking'.. its not due to their stream but rather because of the crap STB itself. I had excellent IPTV image quality when using my PC as a media center (not to mention the ability record and rewind streams). So petition to TM to unencrypt the streams and maybe we can have some better quality IPTV here.

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IPTV Playlist : http://www.athena.my/imagehost/hypp_tv.m3u
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)

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Anyway, just posting an update on the IPTV on PC subject.

When I first noticed that VLAN 500 (internet) had a PPPoE layer but VLAN 600 (IPTV) did not, I assumed the IPTV streams were open for browsing without authentication. I got to work and managed to get it running on my PC.

However, it seems that less than 24 hours after I posted the screenshot of me running Luxe HD on my laptop's Windows Media Center along with some configuration info, TM either by random luck or by monitoring this forum thread decided to scramble the Luxe HD stream. I really don't see the point in this except to force us to use their lame set top box. Other ISPs which provide IPTV also provide their users an m3u playlist with the channel names and UDP multicast addresses so that they may connect to their IPTV service via their PCs. Furthermore, if people wanted to 'pirate' the content they would just use a HDMI capture card if the streams were scrambled.

I'd go into descrambling the streams (basically what the STB does) but it's illegal and would be like trying to tap into paid satellite broadcasts using software emulation. Except in this case it's a fiber optic cable pulled directly into your home so I doubt anyone is going to tap the line in the first place.

Right now, the only streams which are not scrambled are the PIP (picture in picture) streams which use the h264 codec @ 320x240(?) res which is basically like watching a Youtube video in standard def. There's really no point in me posting the media center configuration guide but if you guys are still interested in light channel surfing via your wireless router, the PIP streams are pretty okay to watch and only require VLC player and a single m3u playlist file.

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Rizvanrp, the reason for the DRM is usually due to copyright protection and is normally part and parcel of the ToS a company might have with the broadcasters. Without agreeing to this, usually you would not be able to obtain the feed to broadcast. I suppose this is the reason why you think TM is 'forcing' all of us to use the STB.

I'm in the IPTV sector (not for TM) so that was why I commented about the lack of DRM on the channel in the first place. This is also true for hotels that deploy IPTV VOD systems (requiring DRM). Anyway I think we're getting a bit off topic here smile.gif

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
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Anyway, just posting an update on the IPTV on PC subject.

When I first noticed that VLAN 500 (internet) had a PPPoE layer but VLAN 600 (IPTV) did not, I assumed the IPTV streams were open for browsing without authentication. I got to work and managed to get it running on my PC.

However, it seems that less than 24 hours after I posted the screenshot of me running Luxe HD on my laptop's Windows Media Center along with some configuration info, TM either by random luck or by monitoring this forum thread decided to scramble the Luxe HD stream. I really don't see the point in this except to force us to use their lame set top box. Other ISPs which provide IPTV also provide their users an m3u playlist with the channel names and UDP multicast addresses so that they may connect to their IPTV service via their PCs. Furthermore, if people wanted to 'pirate' the content they would just use a HDMI capture card if the streams were scrambled.

I'd go into descrambling the streams (basically what the STB does) but it's illegal and would be like trying to tap into paid satellite broadcasts using software emulation. Except in this case it's a fiber optic cable pulled directly into your home so I doubt anyone is going to tap the line in the first place.

Right now, the only streams which are not scrambled are the PIP (picture in picture) streams which use the h264 codec @ 320x240(?) res which is basically like watching a Youtube video in standard def. There's really no point in me posting the media center configuration guide but if you guys are still interested in light channel surfing via your wireless router, the PIP streams are pretty okay to watch and only require VLC player and a single m3u playlist file.

I'm going to attach the playlist file I made which contains all the channel -> multicast address information. All you need to do to use it is to have your laptop network card in DHCP mode (no static IP set, obtain automatically) and plug it into the *red* IPTV port on the back of your TM DIR-615 router. When it gets an IP in the 10.x.x.x range, open up the playlist file in VLC and select the channel you want to watch.

I still think their STB is shit (lack of recording feature, laggy, etc) and by forcing us to use it, it makes their IPTV service shit too. For those of you who have complained about the IPTV picture's poor quality and 'flickering'/'shaking'.. its not due to their stream but rather because of the crap STB itself. I had excellent IPTV image quality when using my PC as a media center (not to mention the ability record and rewind streams). So petition to TM to unencrypt the streams and maybe we can have some better quality IPTV here.

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IPTV Playlist : http://www.athena.my/imagehost/hypp_tv.m3u
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Theres 3 new TM box in my housing area..
1-Small
1-Medium
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Are they Unifi's line or something?
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Apr 13 2010, 03:36 PM)
Theres 3 new TM box in my housing area..
1-Small
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Are they Unifi's line or something?
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 13 2010, 01:22 AM)
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Anyway, just posting an update on the IPTV on PC subject.

When I first noticed that VLAN 500 (internet) had a PPPoE layer but VLAN 600 (IPTV) did not, I assumed the IPTV streams were open for browsing without authentication. I got to work and managed to get it running on my PC.

However, it seems that less than 24 hours after I posted the screenshot of me running Luxe HD on my laptop's Windows Media Center along with some configuration info, TM either by random luck or by monitoring this forum thread decided to scramble the Luxe HD stream. I really don't see the point in this except to force us to use their lame set top box. Other ISPs which provide IPTV also provide their users an m3u playlist with the channel names and UDP multicast addresses so that they may connect to their IPTV service via their PCs. Furthermore, if people wanted to 'pirate' the content they would just use a HDMI capture card if the streams were scrambled.

I'd go into descrambling the streams (basically what the STB does) but it's illegal and would be like trying to tap into paid satellite broadcasts using software emulation. Except in this case it's a fiber optic cable pulled directly into your home so I doubt anyone is going to tap the line in the first place.

Right now, the only streams which are not scrambled are the PIP (picture in picture) streams which use the h264 codec @ 320x240(?) res which is basically like watching a Youtube video in standard def. There's really no point in me posting the media center configuration guide but if you guys are still interested in light channel surfing via your wireless router, the PIP streams are pretty okay to watch and only require VLC player and a single m3u playlist file.

I'm going to attach the playlist file I made which contains all the channel -> multicast address information. All you need to do to use it is to have your laptop network card in DHCP mode (no static IP set, obtain automatically) and plug it into the *red* IPTV port on the back of your TM DIR-615 router. When it gets an IP in the 10.x.x.x range, open up the playlist file in VLC and select the channel you want to watch.

I still think their STB is shit (lack of recording feature, laggy, etc) and by forcing us to use it, it makes their IPTV service shit too. For those of you who have complained about the IPTV picture's poor quality and 'flickering'/'shaking'.. its not due to their stream but rather because of the crap STB itself. I had excellent IPTV image quality when using my PC as a media center (not to mention the ability record and rewind streams). So petition to TM to unencrypt the streams and maybe we can have some better quality IPTV here.

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IPTV Playlist : http://www.athena.my/imagehost/hypp_tv.m3u
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Just got my unifi installed..damn its fast...
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QUOTE(Polytechnic @ Apr 13 2010, 04:39 PM)
So when is this unifi coming to jb?
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QUOTE(archonixm @ Apr 13 2010, 05:17 PM)
Just got my unifi installed..damn its fast...
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QUOTE(surreall @ Apr 13 2010, 10:43 AM)
doh.gif I thought the set top box was still connected to the iptv port on the DIR-615 and at the same time you managed to stream it to your laptop wirelessly from the DIR-615. Wishful thinking but I thought my little bro could watch Cbeebies downstairs on the TV and I could watch FashionTV in my room.
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Eh, thats what you can do with my method. However you must hook up another wireless router to the IPTV port to act as a wireless AP. Like I said before, all devices connected to the IPTV port are put onto the IPTV network.

So if you hook up a wireless router/AP to it, you can then wire your STB to that AP while having your laptop connected to it via wifi card at the same time. Your laptops wifi card will be assigned an IP address in the IPTV subnet and you will be able to just open VLC and stream the channels regardless of what the STB is doing smile.gif

QUOTE(biatch0 @ Apr 13 2010, 11:25 AM)
While some unifi staff may thank you for exploring all these possibilities, I can assure you that the ones higher up most likely do NOT appreciate this. You may want to stop sharing details of what you are doing and keep it to yourself (and maybe people you know directly) since all this is most likely a breach of the ToS.

Showing security flaws to ISPs rarely results in anything good... unless you like threats of legal action and service cancellations *cough*TIME*cough* :]
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I've discovered a lot of exploits on their network in the past and reported it to them to fix. A few threads back I mentioned a DoS attack method on their Cyberjaya 5 datacenter routers which I found last year; a bug which let me take down the RHB bank and McDonalds m'sia websites with a single click of a button or perform a MITM attack. It's better I find these bugs and report it to them than leave it open for some *other* malicious users to find and exploit. If they want to kick me off their network just because I find their bugs and report it, they're going to have an insecure network.

QUOTE(dongster @ Apr 13 2010, 12:22 PM)
Rizvanrp, the reason for the DRM is usually due to copyright protection and is normally part and parcel of the ToS a company might have with the broadcasters. Without agreeing to this, usually you would not be able to obtain the feed to broadcast. I suppose this is the reason why you think TM is 'forcing' all of us to use the STB.

I'm in the IPTV sector (not for TM) so that was why I commented about the lack of DRM on the channel in the first place. This is also true for hotels that deploy IPTV VOD systems (requiring DRM). Anyway I think we're getting a bit off topic here smile.gif
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Then you know there are three kinds of DRM being employed.. that I know of anyway. The first is this video stream encryption. Its what prevents me from just tapping directly into the video feed. The second is Macrovision. That prevents analog devices such as a VCR from hooking up and recording streams. The third is HDCP or High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection, this prevents 'HD enabled' certified devices from copying video data using the HDMI output. I just want the first to be disabled like it was before so we have the option to use our own STBs.

If you've ever been online, you know that DRM does not work at all and prevents legit consumers from actually getting the most out of their service. I understand the red tape and all with applying for a channel broadcast, but seriously.. look around, literally every TV show out there is available as a SD or 720/1080p HD mkv file out there. If they can't remove this DRM, at least give us the option of having a better STB with DVR features.

Regardless, at the end of the day a determined person with more time on his hands is going to take a logic analyzer to the flash memory chips and break the system open smile.gif
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QUOTE(loongchai @ Mar 25 2010, 11:43 PM)
TM is supposed to provide HSBB internet, but they wasted 8mbps on HyppTV. can i subscribe internet without the useless channels (and reduce monthly charges)?
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The 5, 10 20 Mbps is purely internet speed. IPTV is 8Mg ON TOP of the internet speed. So when you sign for VIP5, you're actually getting 5+8 Mbps pumped to your house. Furthermore, the "streams" for internet and IPTV are separate, meaning your internet surfing speed is not affected by your IPTV.

I asked TM on whether we can unbundle the services and their answer is no. Their reason is UniFi is suppose to give a total digital lifestyle experience. Plus, for now (I think up to September), the IPTV services are free!!

Actually their channels are not bad la, got a kids channel (important for my kids..hahaha)...I saw at my friend's house. Plus I like the VOD concept...no need to pay for channels I don't watch. Can watch whenever I like. But I think they need a sports channel. Then more people can just cancel A**ro and take up UniFi. nod.gif

I think the IPTV can be improved...content is important but like we know, a lot of the major channels already exclusive belong to A**ro. So maybe TM should concentrate on getting more VOD and getting it for cheap, and HD quality.
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hey guys, when i came back from school today,
saw a lorry in front of my house with cables and they put one stand there with TM sign and the jalur lebar thing.

does it mean that my area will soon have hsbb?
i didn't see them installing because that time it was raining but i remember they were rolling out cables

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