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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadbrand Thread V4, Latest:NO cap 4 unifi packages 4 now ^_^

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post Apr 1 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 1 2010, 11:53 AM)
I would not know, really. To say, tunnel1.wowtunnels.com (US wow tunnel server), its about 193ms.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 1 2010, 12:05 PM)
International latency is hard to control. The fibre local latency is amazing as has been posted by some of the users. As a previous metrofon user, I can tell you that local pings are great.

However, if you're going international, depending on where your traffic is routed your ping will always increase. Its not like you have fibre optic connections all the way to every server in the world.
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post Apr 1 2010, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 1 2010, 10:58 AM)
I've also noticed something myself. People here complaining about Unifi are as 'flip flop' as TM's T&C. One minute they complain about high latency (for low bandwidth applications like online gaming), next they complain about speed, then they complain about download cap, T&C, company policy, fiber infrastructure and even the name of the damn service. What the heck do you guys want exactly? All of those things are related but they're brought up as separate issues.

I have stuck to my point from the very beginning -- that I hate the daily download cap and that the monthly cap should be increased. When TM decides to actually listen for once and remove the cap so record some damn user statistics instead of guessing extremely low numbers, you people claim they're setting up a trap to lure customers in and they'll somehow make the cap even lower than advertised.

The fact is nobody knows what TM will do next but what we can be sure of is the current performance Unifi users are getting at the moment. However, when these users post their speedtests and latency tests, you toss them aside and claim you don't give a shit and it's all about policy.. then ask where are the latency graphs. Grow up lah. Nothing is certain at this point. Datacenter lines all have limitations, caps and whatnot and they're fully packed with servers. If TM were to provide capped access, they would still get a load of customers while maintaining network speed. I'd rather have 20mbps capped access performing at the current level than 100mbps unmetered functioning at 512kbps.

The best part about half (or more) of the people complaining about Unifi here is that they can't even sign up for it yet because they're not covered.. and when users who have ALREADY signed up for it and are using it post their experiences, they get told off for being morons. It's as though you people think that if Unifi eventually gets capped, we won't be able to access the internet by any other means at all.

So whatever, I'll be enjoying my 20mbps access, 190ms latency in WoW and 3ms latency in local FPS servers while you troll about a company and a service you can't even apply for. rclxms.gif
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i did mentioned about wanting a stable connection.
i did mentioned about wanting a higher limit cap.
i did mentioned about wanting a competition for TM.
oh, i did brag about heavy downloaders with their heavy downloads

but did i tossed those posted speedtests and latency tests aside? i was skeptical about the result as hsbb speed and latency similar to normal screamyx.
did i tossed the point that you mentioned the site traffic being 'heavy' and the results are not consistent aside? i observed and kept quiet .
did i stop people from subscribing? i urge them to apply so i can laugh at them when limit cap and bandwidth throttling is in.

plz, take your time and read past posts, i mentioned what i had mentioned
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Can u max out 20 mb download and upload at the same time or is it like adsl?
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QUOTE(Instant_noodle @ Apr 1 2010, 12:08 PM)
i did mentioned about wanting a stable connection.
i did mentioned about wanting a higher limit cap.
i did mentioned about wanting a competition for TM.
oh, i did brag about heavy downloaders with their heavy downloads

but did i tossed those posted speedtests and latency tests aside? i was skeptical about the result as hsbb speed and latency similar to normal screamyx.
did i tossed the point that you mentioned the site traffic being 'heavy' and the results are not consistent aside? i observed and kept quiet .
did i stop people from subscribing? i urge them to apply so i can laugh at them when limit cap and bandwidth throttling is in.

plz, take your time and read past posts, i mentioned what i had mentioned
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I have been reading all your posts since the start of this thread and most of them are generally 'haha line wont be stable, go ahead and sign up suckers' or 'haha contract will change and you'll be stuck with it, go ahead and sign up suckers'. I posted speedtests here to people so they know what they're signing up for, you just brushed them aside with skepticism (quote "i was skeptical about the result as hsbb speed and latency similar to normal screamyx."). That is why I said you tossed them aside. That's probably why you mentioned "5. latency on oversea game servers?". They've already been posted.. but you'll probably want us to post latency tests to every game in the world before you're remotely satisfied.

What's the point of even mentioning our tests if the only way you're going to be satisfied is if :

1) TM basically hands you the reigns to set an unmetered cap policy and guaranteed <100ms latency to every server in the world
2) Gives you 20mbps at RM50 a month
3) You sign up and test it for yourself

Reading your posts quietly since the start of the thread has just left a bitter taste in my mouth to be honest. I don't really want to reply to you anymore and I think people over here will know better if they just look at your post history and read what you've written.

You complain its too expensive, too slow, too uncertain and yet when I post results here so people know what they're getting for paying over RM200+ a month.. you say you're just going to laugh at people who sign up.

So forgive me for saying this but it really sounds like you're just posting here to troll and boost your own ego. You're not helping anyone at all.

QUOTE(xpresside @ Apr 1 2010, 12:12 PM)
Can u max out 20 mb download and upload at the same time or is it like adsl?
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Yes you can but it won't be 20mbps up/down, maybe around 18mbps both ways because you have to take in account protocol overhead

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post Apr 1 2010, 12:35 PM

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Anyone can try out newsgroups?I hardly see anyone using that...
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QUOTE(Neptern @ Apr 1 2010, 12:35 PM)
Anyone can try out newsgroups?I hardly see anyone using that...
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I would but I don't have a usenet subscription. If I'm not mistaken there was someone who applied for 10mbps and he posted twitter pics of him using a newsgroup client and downloading.

http://twitpic.com/1bpp3v
http://twitpic.com/1bppp6
http://twitpic.com/1bpqe4

I could be wrong but it looks like a standard usenet client with 10 threads running
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why should i pay for their shitty iptv and capped internet? sad.gif
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hahaha the response on Unifi registration is OVERWHELMING according to the CS

so much for the boycott. the only people boycotting are:

a. super heavy downloaders
b. people who cant even apply for the service
c. the so-called 6% who hog 80% of total streamyx bandwidth
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 01:19 PM)
hahaha the response on Unifi registration is OVERWHELMING according to the CS

so much for the boycott. the only people boycotting are:

a. super heavy downloaders
b. people who cant even apply for the service <- thanks to TM who launch the service on specific area
c. the so-called 6% who hog 80% of total streamyx bandwidth
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 01:19 PM)
hahaha the response on Unifi registration is OVERWHELMING according to the CS

so much for the boycott. the only people boycotting are:

a. super heavy downloaders
b. people who cant even apply for the service
c. the so-called 6% who hog 80% of total streamyx bandwidth
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or people who believe that tmnet shouldn't just get away with providing sub-standard services.

Its overwhelming because simply put, they are launching in high income areas, the people can afford to burn the money, they don't really care. Doesn't mean we should just keep quiet and let them do as they please. I see unifi as a step backwards rather than a step forward.

Even since unifi was launched, my internet is worse. Wait till more and more people subscribe to unifi, and watch the experience degrade more and more. They are just repeating what they've done with streamyx before. We need them to change, we need them to prepare our nation for a broadband future, and as long as consumers like yourself are so apathetic, they won't because they have no reason to.
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 01:19 PM)
hahaha the response on Unifi registration is OVERWHELMING according to the CS

so much for the boycott. the only people boycotting are:

a. super heavy downloaders
b. people who cant even apply for the service  (i say 80% of them b1tching bout unifi is under this category)
c. the so-called 6% who hog 80% of total streamyx bandwidth
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post Apr 1 2010, 01:42 PM

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I do hope tmnut really can handle the load when the user base grows exponentially.
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Apr 1 2010, 01:25 PM)
or people who believe that tmnet shouldn't just get away with providing sub-standard services.

Its overwhelming because simply put, they are launching in high income areas, the people can afford to burn the money, they don't really care. Doesn't mean we should just keep quiet and let them do as they please. I see unifi as a step backwards rather than a step forward.

Even since unifi was launched, my internet is worse. Wait till more and more people subscribe to unifi, and watch the experience degrade more and more. They are just repeating what they've done with streamyx before. We need them to change, we need them to prepare our nation for a broadband future, and as long as consumers like yourself are so apathetic, they won't because they have no reason to.
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how can you determine that it's substandard before you have used it? you;re the typical complaining-malaysians aren't you? complain3 without having experienced the service or product beforehand. it's not fair for TM to get the flak before it's even officially launched; getting the flak from people who havent used the service no less. noisy non-buying customers

it's overwhelming because people see it as a value for money; RM150 for a triple play service? that's a good deal compared to what we had previously (typical 1mb broadband cost RM100+ but you're getting 5mbps for just RM150 plus another 2 services)

the argument that it's response is overwhelming because it was launched in high-income area is plain bullshit; the cost for broadband is the same throughout the whole country; if residents in high-income area find it to be a good deal, residents in other areas with broadband access will come to the same conclusion.

btw, do explain what's so sub-standard about the service? free equipment (the 802.11N router alone should set you back RM300!) free IPTV, free local calls, 10cent/minute to mobile numbers (cheaper than most other mobile to mobile calls)...

as for streamyx, my service has never been better. and without numbers and samples, whatever you experience cannot be used as a measuring stick for the internet service by streamyx

you call me apathic, but you know for a fact that you guys are sore and butthurt. TM is changing, they've invested RM9 billion in this project to wire our houses up for the future. tell me what else do you want? even the Americans are having a lot of problem setting up last mile fiber optics network. they are arguing as to whom to pay the bill.. heck, TM is lining up the fibers down your backstreet out of their own pocket without the guarantee that butthurts like you lot would subscribe to the service.

give them some credit and stop being such a pain in the ass for the rest of Malaysians. we dont care about your need to hog the bandwidth. we welcome a certain set of caps to make you lot behave with the bandwidth usage anyway.

p/s havent you guys caused enough damage to the rest of Malaysians by selfishly saturating the streamyx network by downloading 24/7? you 6% used up 80% of the bandwidth. how long do you expect to continue with this selfish behavior? it's about time we take out the whip and get you guys in order. and if you guys dont like the cap, feel free to not subscribe to it. we could use a little less of you lot.

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QUOTE(Mokuton @ Apr 1 2010, 01:18 PM)
why should i pay for their shitty iptv and capped internet? sad.gif
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This is good news for the heavy downloader..


no cap starts in june or july(not sure)...cause of the complains i guest.. laugh.gif

from where i knew?..

my friend work at TM maa..he says the one controls TM..dono the ceo maybe..(sorry..i'm not good at business part rclxub.gif )


well...can't wait for my Unifi..still waiting... wink.gif


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QUOTE(capricorn81 @ Apr 1 2010, 12:07 PM)
I should be getting my Unifi next week. For those of you that have done your installation, do you keep all the equipments together at the same place?

Is it possible to keep the btu and the gateway in one place and the dect phone and set top box in another place? The reason i'm asking this is bcos it will be a little inconvenient to keep all the equipments at the same place near your tv as the tv will usually be in the living room and I usually use my notebook in the room.

Hope someone here can clarify. Thanks smile.gif
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According to the installer, the tv set top box can be located near the tv separate from the modem and router provided the router can be connected via lan to the tv set top box as the connection from the set top box to the router is via rj45 connection. Not sure about wifi connection but it should also work I guess esp if you use N speed perhaps thats why an N speed router is supplied.

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QUOTE(ProComplex @ Apr 1 2010, 02:13 PM)
According to the installer, the tv set top box can be located near the tv separate from the modem and router provided the router can be connected via lan to the tv set top box as the connection from the set top box to the router is via rj45 connection. Not sure about wifi connection but it should also work I guess esp if you use N speed perhaps thats why an N speed router is supplied.
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i wonder how is the dect phone connected to the router? wirelessly or through LAN?
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 02:16 PM)
i wonder how is the dect phone connected to the router? wirelessly or through LAN?
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Dect phone uses RJ11 connector and cable from the fiberhome modem.

QUOTE(ProComplex @ Apr 1 2010, 02:13 PM)
According to the installer, the tv set top box can be located near the tv separate from the modem and router provided the router can be connected via lan to the tv set top box as the connection from the set top box to the router is via rj45 connection. Not sure about wifi connection but it should also work I guess esp if you use N speed perhaps thats why an N speed router is supplied.
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The wifi router they give has custom TM firmware.. last port is painted red in colour and its meant for IPTV. If you have a direct cat5 cable connection to the set top box from another room you can separate the two. What you cannot do however is hook up a switch/hub to that red IPTV LAN port as anything thats connected to that will be placed on some 10.3.0.0/255.255.192.0 subnet with no internet access meant for IPTV.
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Hong Kong ISP has 1gbps package for only HK$99.

So, I suggest st least the following for unifail:

5mbps with 150gb cap = RM25
5 mbps with unlimited usage = RM50
10mbps with 300gb cap = RM50
10mbps unlimited usage package = RM100
20mbps with 600gb cap = RM100
20mbps with unlimited usage = RM200.

Since HK isp offer 1gbps for HK$99 only, the price I suggested above already considered high.
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QUOTE(powerfulcool @ Apr 1 2010, 02:03 PM)
how can you determine that it's substandard before you have used it? you;re the typical complaining-malaysians aren't you? complain3 without having experienced the service or product beforehand. it's not fair for TM to get the flak before it's even officially launched; getting the flak from people who havent used the service no less. noisy non-buying customers

That's why we're getting people to post results.

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it's overwhelming because people see it as a value for money; RM150 for a triple play service? that's a good deal compared to what we had previously (typical 1mb broadband cost RM100+ but you're getting 5mbps for just RM150 plus another 2 services)

Triple play service that doesn't provide people with anything they really want. You call that value? Landlines are hardly used by most people anymore, IPTV channels are a joke, and guess what, you're paying for it. You call paying for something you don't want/need value? laugh.gif Amazing.

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the argument that it's response is overwhelming because it was launched in high-income area is plain bullshit; the cost for broadband is the same throughout the whole country; if residents in high-income area find it to be a good deal, residents in other areas with broadband access will come to the same conclusion.

So if a rich person thinks a nasi lemak worth RM5 is good value, everyone else will come to the same conclusion? Your impeccable logic amazes me. People with high income CAN AFFORD the prices, people with lower income can't. The cost may be the same throughout the whole country, but the disposable income of the people staying throughout the whole country is different (and many times, by a large margin).

Look at how much we're being charged for broadband compared to other countries all around us. Compare it dollar to dollar, and you'll see that our internet is bloody f***ing expensive.

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btw, do explain what's so sub-standard about the service? free equipment (the 802.11N router alone should set you back RM300!) free IPTV, free local calls, 10cent/minute to mobile numbers (cheaper than most other mobile to mobile calls)...

Service and free gifts are two different things.

Sub standard service includes

  • Throttling
  • Slow speeds
  • Bad pings
  • Unreliable connections
  • Frequent downtimes


All this, people have experienced A LOT with streamyx. You want to say unifi is different? I can tell you that streamyx started out great as well, and it was great for about 2 years until a mass recruitment campaign began and they were signing up more people than they had the bandwidth and support for. You think unifi is going to be any different? I don't see any attitude change from TmNet.

Notice how in their terms and in the contract, they've not specified on how well they can provide a service? Fix this and I won't complain of sub-standard service.

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as for streamyx, my service has never been better. and without numbers and samples, whatever you experience cannot be used as a measuring stick for the internet service by streamyx

You don't have numbers as well do you? I spent 30+ minute loading a 3 minute youtube video, tell me how that is great service? My 1mbps line is downloading files at 30kBps (from gmail), tell me if that is great service. (My ADSL signal is fine if you're wondering)

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you call me apathic, but you know for a fact that you guys are sore and butthurt. TM is changing, they've invested RM9 billion in this project to wire our houses up for the future. tell me what else do you want? even the Americans are having a lot of problem setting up last mile fiber optics network. they are arguing as to whom to pay the bill.. heck, TM is lining up the fibers down your backstreet out of their own pocket without the guarantee that butthurts like you lot would subscribe to the service.

Out of their own pocket? laugh.gif They were subsidised by the government, do you pay your taxes? I do. So they did use my money to build the infrastructure and yet can still charge high prices? Utter bollocks.

Your argument doesn't make any sense anyway. Any sort of business needs to make an investment to provide infrastructure and support for their products. Its not like they're giving it free, if they want my business they need to make things attractive and provide a good service. It wouldn't be so bad if they used only their own money, but the government subsidised them, which means that I paid for the infrastructure as well.

I wonder if you know the meaning of the word 'apathetic' in the first place laugh.gif

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give them some credit and stop being such a pain in the ass for the rest of Malaysians.
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Credit is given when credit is due, and they've not done what I deem necessary to give them any sort of credit. Until they can make a promise and even put it in my contract, guaranteeing a certain level of service quality, only then I'll give them credit because it shows effort and commitment to quality.

Just watch, as most of you are happy with unifi now, give it sometime, and you'll all be complaining like you did with streamyx, and why? Because you all signed up for a 2 year contract which doesn't promise or guarantee you anything and you can't do shit about it. You never fought for your own rights as consumers. and you will rightly get fleeced because of it.

If you ever used the internet in other countries, then you'll know why I say their service is sub-standard and this is not my opinion alone. Friend who came back after studying for a few years in US, UK, AU, JP all say the same thing, internet here sucks. What's the main difference in these countries? The consumers fight for their rights, and make the companies listen.
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Apr 1 2010, 02:37 PM)
The wifi router they give has custom TM firmware.. last port is painted red in colour and its meant for IPTV. If you have a direct cat5 cable connection to the set top box from another room you can separate the two. What you cannot do however is hook up a switch/hub to that red IPTV LAN port as anything thats connected to that will be placed on some 10.3.0.0/255.255.192.0 subnet with no internet access meant for IPTV.
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Is there a way to set up so that the IPTV signal is sent to a computer first which then broadcasts it to all the computers in the network? Thinking if its possible for me to set things up in a way so that people in the house can watch multiple channels. Not too sure how it works, or at the very least this would allow multiple access points in the house for IPTV.



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