http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/business/57389

TM is in that database I guess.. I've received 1-2 DMCA letters from Cyberjaya NOC's for corporate packages before. Residential.. prolly not.

60GB for a 5mbps symmetric line.. ridiculous. Pure download @ 5mbps means about 27 hours of continuous usage .. which is about <1 hour of 5mbps per day. This is download only, not even inclusive of upload overhead.

When you watch youtube SD also it goes up to 5mbps, means you can only stream <1 hour of content per day lar.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:11 AM

Hm kay thanks for the info anyway..

but yea its totally ridiculous. Even on my 4mbps line now, I don't download much just some daily 175MB show, play a lot of online games and stream 720p youtube.. it comes up to about 120-150GB a month.

Did you manage to test out the HSBB speeds there? From the reports people gave out about the dataran merdeka link, they said it's a 20mbps link.. but download/upload from local servers like Jaring seems to let them burst from 40 to 100mbps. It either means TM specially set the link for the showcase at a much higher speed or perhaps local traffic is allowed to burst from 20 to 100mbps (which is REALLY good).

Not really their ISPs monitoring but SG people who have sort of purchased a license to 'prosecute' other SGers for downloading licensed contracts. As long as they stick to private trackers (in the case of BT) or use VPN services nothing will happen
Wow! That's amazing if it's true. It will maintain international link capacity and allow those downloaders to get their content fix. They can either use IP filtering so their clients can only connect to peers on local IP address ranges or we can just establish our own P2P network locally lol.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:29 AM

If TMnet can throttle protocols like BT, it means they have deep packet inspection filters installed on their network. They can easily monitor and log all your activity but yeah I guess SG ISPs would be more strict when these 'license owners' contact them for customer information regarding P2Pers.

Site was updated.. they changed HSBB to Unifi. Waiting on press conference in the afternoon to announce the pricing

Those people get cut off the HSBB network for abuse? :/ Not to mention it would rape their bandwidth cap

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:34 AM

Depending on the type of DDOS attack.. One GOOD reason to implement bandwidth caps is for this very purpose. They will only be able to do it for a limited period of time.. and they will have to do it directly without proxying making them easy to identify.

Streamyx users are always trying shit like this but yeah, HSBB is a double edged sword.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:38 AM

There are easier ways to DOS** Maybank and LYN servers besides consuming a load of bandwidth. Last year, I reported a vulnerability to TM about their CBJ5 datacenter (which has been fixed now so don't bother). I took down RHB, mcds and tons of other local websites just by attacking their main router (which manages the VLANs) and I used what.. 2KB/s of bandwidth lol

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:42 AM

Nah I was just pentesting my own servers when I discovered the exploit on one of the routers in between. Like I said, most people won't use this method unless they're stupid. It's like taking a hammer to a server to DoS it.

It's good in situations where.. lets say there's a new botnet worm out and HSBB linked PCs are compromised.

I'd be more worried about the technology behind the HSBB however.. I don't even know what protocol they're using over the GPON fiber. It's probably encrypted since its a passive network and can be sniffed easily.

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 09:47 AM

Okay guys.. I just called and subscribed. My area is under TTDI exchange and I took the first installation date which is 29th of March

The packages are VIP5/10/20.. the prices are confirmed by that lady to be whats stated here (5mb 149, 10mb 199, 20mb 249).

Service is FREE until 1st of July. She told me there is a fair usage policy but it's not implemented yet so no caps so far. Haihz 4 more days lol

I also had to pick a new phone number for the VOIP line (starts with 773 now lol)

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 10:19 AM

Yes they might cap in future. And its 24 months contract.

VOIP line she told me rm0.10 for handphone calls and TM line is free of charge. I think there was some other charge but my BM is rusty.

UPDATE : ARGH SHE JUST CALLED ME TO SAY 29TH IS FULL MUST WAIT TILL 30TH AND IT WILL TAKE 8 HOURS TO INSTALL CAUSE MUST DRILL HOLE AND PULL FIBER WTF

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 10:24 AM

Yeah well, I've been streamyx user for 7-8 years now sick of it already. I applied for 20mbps and its free access for 3 months.. not bad la for RM249. Now also, I'm paying 198 for 4mbps and additional rm69 for 1mbps jaring backup adsl line. It's gonna be cheaper lol

This post has been edited by rizvanrp: Mar 25 2010, 10:26 AM

I won't know for sure till 30th to be honest. You could try asking those beta testers who already have it..

Australia also has caps.. and if local traffic is not capped I'll just route it through my TMnet/Jaring dedi servers

Anyway.. just to sum it up for you guys from what I know :

VIP 5mbps RM149
VIP 10mb RM199
VIP 20mb RM249

- All speeds are symmetric
- Contract is 24 months
- No installation fee for now (according to the girl I talked to anyway)
- Installation takes around 8 hours
- Service is free till 1st July
- If you have Streamyx contract you can only cancel after June (since its free till July)
- No Fair Usage Policy YET but it's in the works
- You have to pick a new phone number for the VOIP service
- VOIP has free calls between TM landlines
- First install date in TTDI exchange area is 29th March and beyond

At the end of the day, its just going to matter if your situation matches the package you want. If you like to leave you PC on 24/7 and download tons of 'stuff', then go ahead and stick with the 4mbps Streamyx ADSL packages.

I have been happy with my 4mbps network speed but I've been thoroughly dissatisfied with its implementation. While I get 3.5mbps, my line is capped below 4mbps physically at the ATM link because of the aging copper in my area. If it's capped any higher it causes non stop disconnections on the ATM link. Why should I continue to subscribe to something that disconnects all the time when it rains and expose my whole copper wired gigabit network at home to lightning strikes over and over when I have a better option? It's so bad that I had to buy a separate phone line just for another ADSL link to Jaring -- and it's not a problem with TM, it's a problem with the laws of physics and using oxidized, exposed copper wiring.

I don't use more than 120GB of bandwidth a month, I just want a connection that's always on, is fast (so I can pick up my small TV shows ASAP), has low latency and doesn't run on copper wires from the Japanese occupation era. I don't want shitty Wifi/Wimax based services where I have to literally share the line with everyone in my area and put up with 80-100ms base latency simply because of its implementation regardless of how much bandwidth they want to throw at me.

TM monopolizing the network is one thing but if you guys aren't already aware of this, bandwidth in Asia costs A LOT. It costs so much that Runescape scrapped its plans to host a server in Singapore back in the day because it was just too bloody expensive. You can say that if we have more competitors, the pricing will go down. That's true but eventually you'll hit the rock bottom pricing where they have to make a profit and still manage to pay for all the bandwidth you heavy downloaders use for Bluray pornos (don't dispute this fact with me, I used to run one of the first few torrenting services here on LYN ).

This package is new and I'm hoping that once the HSBB network gets properly built, either caps will be increased or we'll be allocated more bandwidth. Either that or they can just ignore local bandwidth so we can cut down on our international link usage.

If I really wanted to download a 200GB file for whatever reason, I'd just pick up a colocation package with 1000GB of bandwidth at Jaring's IDC at Tech Park Msia.. hook up my laptop to their gigabit network and download at 10-15MB/s.