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post Mar 22 2010, 08:31 PM, updated 16y ago

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AMD Phenom II X6 PIB Units Pictured, Turbo Core Technology Detailed
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Here they are, boxes that carry AMD's first desktop six-core processors, the Phenom II X6. This line of "true six core design" processors from AMD target performance/price sweet-spots in the sub-$300 segment, targeting higher-end Intel Core i5, and even Core i7 series processors from Intel. The Phenom II X6 is based on the 45 nm "Thuban" core, and comes in the socket AM3 package. The processor is said to be backwards-compatible with socket AM2+ on motherboards with a BIOS update. Expreview sourced pictures of three Phenom II X6 processor-in-box (PIB) units, of model 1055T.

Apart from a numerical boost in processor cores over the Phenom II X4, the Phenom II X6 brings in a landmark new feature for AMD, the Turbo Core technology. This new feature senses load on each of the processor cores, and adjusts each individual core's power-states and frequencies accordingly. Unlike with the comparable Intel Turbo Boost technology, AMD's Turbo Core tech gives the processor higher number of "Turbo" cores when the multi-threaded load is low. Turbo Boost does not require any special software to work, not even new drivers for any given OS. All its logic is embedded on-die.

Sensing low multi-threaded power load, Turbo Core powers down three of the six cores, while sending the three remaining cores into a "Boost state". In this state, the cores' clock-speed is boosted by up to 500 MHz (multiplier +2.5x). Throughout the Boost state, the processor stays within the processor's defined TDP. The processor leaves Boost state when it senses more multi-threaded power is needed. Following are slides from AMD's press-briefing where it specifically talked about Turbo Core:
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Apart from Phenom II X6, Turbo Core technology will also be featured on Phenom II X4 900T "Zosma" series quad-core processors. These chips will offer two Boost-state cores.

http://techpowerup.com/119914/AMD_Phenom_I...y_Detailed.html

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AMD Phenom II X6 Processors Start Shipping
Retailers have started shipping AMD's Phenom II X6 series of desktop six-core processors. The Phenom II X6 is AMD's first consumer six-core processor for desktops, which intends to compete with Intel at aggressive price-points. AMD is starting the series with two models, the Phenom II X6 1055T and Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition. German retailer VV Computer priced the 1055T under 200€ at 198.7€, while the 1090T Black Edition goes for a little over 300€, at 309.9€.

The Phenom II X6 1055T runs at 2.80 GHz, with Turbo Core speed of 3.30 GHz, while the Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition runs at 3.20 GHz with 3.60 GHz of Turbo Core speed, and an unlocked bus multiplier to help overclocking. Both chips have 9 MB of total cache, and TDP of 125W.
http://www.techpowerup.com/120963/AMD_Phen...t_Shipping.html


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the 5 core 1055T looks like unlockable hmm.gif
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post Mar 22 2010, 08:37 PM

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very tempting. soon can get 6 core for RM 600+
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post Mar 22 2010, 08:38 PM

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Mar 22 2010, 08:32 PM)
the 5 core 1055T looks like unlockable  hmm.gif
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is there a 5 cores Phenom II?
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 22 2010, 08:38 PM)
is there a 5 cores Phenom II?
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should be later..when they lock one of the core from phenom ii x6..
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post Mar 22 2010, 09:07 PM

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I think and Athlon II X6 will be starved of cache.
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post Mar 22 2010, 09:15 PM

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tat is cheap price , 6 core at 600-700 bucks
better than i5 750 anytime
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post Mar 22 2010, 10:09 PM

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this processor can fight i5 series or maybe i7 series...
this good news... tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2010, 10:19 PM

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if 6 cores sub rm800

wonder how much the quaddy gonna price at!?
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post Mar 23 2010, 03:14 AM

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Wow, I do hope they quickly release it ASAP. Been surviving on my X3 720 for so long. Probably wanna upgrade by 2011. 6cores hopefully can beat the lower range of i7 series and all the i5s hopefully and of cuz at a more reasonable price.
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ya GO GO GO AMD

So i5 price get lower than we can get cheaper Part in future.
BTW i5 & i7 have how much Cache?
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huhuhu im still using x2 6000+ when dis be release im going for quad lol
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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 22 2010, 09:07 PM)
I think and Athlon II X6 will be starved of cache.
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amd plan to launch athlon ii x6 also?

the lack of L3 cache will significantly pull back it performance?
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Mar 23 2010, 02:20 PM)
amd plan to launch athlon ii x6 also?

the lack of L3 cache will significantly pull back it performance?
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I don't think it's likely. Lack of L3 cache significantly dropped the performance in the Athlon II x4, nevermind this new hexacore proc...
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just have to wait for the benchies... no use if 6 cores but slower than i5 750
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haha is this the i7 980X challenger soon brows.gif icon_idea.gif
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indeed a good news for amd user like me...
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post Mar 23 2010, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(pyangaox @ Mar 23 2010, 08:35 PM)
indeed a good news for amd user like me...
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as usual, these procs should also can be used on current mobo..only with bios update like they did b4..
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 23 2010, 09:22 PM)
as usual, these procs should also can be used on current mobo..only with bios update like they did b4..
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Phenom II X6 can install on AM2+ motherboard?
i mean can it support DDR2 memory?
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Yes it can..but need make sure your BIOS Support it or u may need to update it..

There's no Athlon II X6 and this processor arent target on Intel 980X..It will target lower-mid Core i7 models.

You want more models?Wait next year. ~.~
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how about motherboard?any new?any company ready realese any news \about the platform for this cpu?
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QUOTE(naminakata87 @ Mar 24 2010, 04:21 AM)
how about motherboard?any new?any company ready realese any news \about the platform for this cpu?
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its on an AM3 platform and a bios update is all u need to get it working on current lineup of mobo.

there's no need for a mobo to run the X6.
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Mar 23 2010, 11:22 PM)
Yes it can..but need make sure your BIOS Support it or u may need to update it..

There's no Athlon II X6 and this processor arent target on Intel 980X..It will target lower-mid Core i7 models.

You want more models?Wait next year. ~.~
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this is great for AM2+ user.. brows.gif

upgrade from a dual core to 6 core is very tempting.. rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(hilmiangah @ Mar 24 2010, 05:27 AM)
its on an AM3 platform and a bios update is all u need to get it working on current lineup of mobo.

there's no need for a mobo to run the X6.
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oic rclxms.gif ..is it very hard for me to update the bios?(better learn from you tube)
but this board kinda make me wanna sell my x4 phenom &upgrade to this 1 later...
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QUOTE(naminakata87 @ Mar 24 2010, 02:05 PM)
oic rclxms.gif ..is it very hard for me to update the bios?(better learn from you tube)
but this board kinda make me wanna  sell my x4 phenom &upgrade to this 1 later...
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bios update is not that hard, just do it step by step..
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how much will it cost huh?? shud be less than RM1K gua??? if more than that, maybe keep my 965BE for few more months... tongue.gif
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We can see from the price, 1090T is in same price range with i7 930, so I guess it's speed will >= i7 930.
1035T will be the competitor of i5.

Phenom II x4's price will drop if my prediction is correct. icon_idea.gif
Enjoy using cheap 6 cores processor!

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ada review ka?
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haha u said cheap..howmuch is it? lol
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RM1k+- for 1090T
1090T is used to versus i7 930.

1035T is RM700+-
1035T is used to versus i5 750.

ada review ka?
I can't find it currently.

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woot rm700 that is in my grab woot.... nah 4 cores already enough me I think... in case you all wonder... I still using x2 6000+ hahahaha but it's good news I can get lower price quad.... 965 FTW flex.gif rclxms.gif drool.gif rclxm9.gif rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif tongue.gif

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woot rm700 that is in my grab woot.... nah 4 cores already foe me I think... in case you all wonder... I still using x2 6000+ hahahaha but it's good news I can get lower price quad.... 965 FTW
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6 cores to vs. 4 cores? doh.gif
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6 cores to vs. 4 cores?
Yes. No point to make Phenom II x4 985/995, 3.8/4.0GHz.. It will consumes much power. AMD had to use Phenom II x6 to competite, lower clock but 2 more cores. Phenom II x4 960T is coming too. I think it will be Phenom II x4 955 + Turbo Clock Boost. laugh.gif

We need to wait next year for Bulldozer to competite with i7. Phenom II x6 is just a temporary product to let AMD competite with i5/i7, IMO.

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this is getting better..i still remember when my x2 3800 cost at rm1300..hahaha..
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planning my cpu upgrade if less than 700 smile.gif
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this is getting better..i still remember when my x2 3800 cost at rm1300..hahaha..
Intel has no processor to competite at the time.. biggrin.gif
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U mean Athlon x2 3800 ??? At which year ?? 2006 ??
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at 2011 , there'll be bulldozer 8 cores.And you'll all chase again
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Or snatch up a cheaper 6-core.
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Mar 27 2010, 06:46 PM)
at 2011 , there'll be bulldozer 8 cores.And you'll all chase again
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so??

thats the best part of playing with technology.
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can anyone tell me why additional core will increase the speed? i tot it only gives additional multitasking headroom?
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It will increase performance for programs that can multi-thread.
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can anyone tell me why additional core will increase the speed? i tot it only gives additional multitasking headroom?
Hmm, example :
Aim : To find out the relationship between number of adult and the time to taken to complete the moving of bed.
Manipulated : Number of adults
Responding : Time taken to complete the moving of bed.
Constant : The type of adult
Procedure : shakehead.gif
the conclusion will be :
The more the adult, the shorter the time taken to complete the moving of bed. (Same with processor here. The more the core, the shorter the time taken for completing a task)

General Concept :
The more the core, the faster it is. (For multi threaded programs)
The higher the clock(GHz), the faster it is. (For single threaded programs)

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just hoping the non BE hexa can be oc decently...if its capable of 3.3-3.6ghz...i'm sold for this 'half a dozen core' chips heh!
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nice core with low power consumption also,low price also,..with this 6 cores,for sure,no more bottleneck isue for 5850 or 5870 even 5970 in crossfire..nice rclxms.gif
selling my 955be,buying this cpu..update my mobo bios(hope my mobo can support this cpu)buying another 5850..wow nice..
but any ram isue with this cpu?i meant,do this cpu need at leat 6 gb of ram to make sure its running smothly(super performance)?
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When will this new core will release by AMD?(nvm, read it from d web, mayb around 26 april o Q3) The price is so attractive drool.gif
i guess its 4 core proc price will go even more lower rclxms.gif

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good news for us, hope all proc price tag will drop significantly at least for amd... but then again mayb intel will lunch a proc 6 core without ht since they have core i7 980x will b easy for them...

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hope this can make quaddie price lower, 955 for RM450 mayb? rclxms.gif then it will be the time i use back 955 ><
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Wow brows.gif. Hopefully it does get that low. If it's even lower, I'd be much more happier as I'm waiting to upgrade my rig :/

brows.gif RM400 for the 955 and I'd be like drool.gif. Then I might be able to get a new graphics card as well as a new monitor hmm.gif.
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QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 29 2010, 03:53 PM)
Wow brows.gif. Hopefully it does get that low. If it's even lower, I'd be much more happier as I'm waiting to upgrade my rig :/
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if x6 is around 600-700, i guess 955 might fall below RM500.. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 29 2010, 03:59 PM)
brows.gif RM400 for the 955 and I'd be like drool.gif. Then I might be able to get a new graphics card as well as a new monitor hmm.gif.
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just dun forget to get a Graphic Card-cum-Cooker ya laugh.gif laugh.gif
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when is this proc gonna hit stores in malaysia??
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QUOTE(mato89 @ Mar 29 2010, 04:56 PM)
when is this proc gonna hit stores in malaysia??
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i think best hope is around May. So regret I dint push my old phenom II 955 to 4GHz last time before I sell it.. mayb after this hit malaysia shore and making 955 drop price, I will have my 2nd chance then brows.gif
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QUOTE(AlexLai @ Mar 23 2010, 06:26 PM)
I don't think it's likely. Lack of L3 cache significantly dropped the performance in the Athlon II x4, nevermind this new hexacore proc...
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Exactly, adding new cores is much better option than adding L3 cache when in comes into multitasking environment. but the down side is our software department is seriously falling behind in multi-threading. There isnt many software that support multi-treading even 2 let alone for 4 -6 cores.

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@billytong,

You saying worth getting Athlon X4 than Phenom X2 555 since the price is about similar.
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QUOTE(ahsiah @ Mar 29 2010, 05:47 PM)
@billytong,

You saying worth getting Athlon X4 than Phenom X2 555 since the price is about similar.
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Well if u are doing A LOT of multitasking, multitreading, then the X4 might probably be a better choice.
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Seems like one of lyn forumer susunooblike has already put up d price for d hexa core :
PROCESSOR ONLY AVAILABLE WITH THE PRICE AS STATED BELOW WHEN BUNDLE WITH MOTHERBOARD AND RAM::
AMD PEHENOM II X4 / X6 AM3 Processor
Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz = RM1159 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz = RM769 (Coming Soon!)

only 2 hexa core price is available from him atm biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Mar 30 2010, 12:31 PM)
Seems like one of lyn forumer susunooblike has already put up d price for d hexa core :
PROCESSOR ONLY AVAILABLE WITH THE PRICE AS STATED BELOW WHEN BUNDLE WITH MOTHERBOARD AND RAM::
AMD PEHENOM II X4 / X6 AM3 Processor
Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz = RM1159 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz = RM769 (Coming Soon!)

only 2 hexa core price is available from him atm biggrin.gif
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oh no... RM769... guess 955 still will be the same price..
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i dun think so..tis is d complete amd proc he sell which is 4 more proc is coming soon...

AMD PEHENOM II X4 / X6 AM3 Processor
Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz = RM1159 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1075T = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz = RM769 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1035T 2.8GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X4 960T 3.30GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X4 940T 3.00GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)

so i expect these might made the 955 price lower abit tongue.gif hope so..
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Mar 30 2010, 03:08 PM)
i dun think so..tis is d complete amd proc he sell which is 4 more proc is coming soon...

AMD PEHENOM II X4 / X6 AM3 Processor
Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz = RM1159 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1075T = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1055T 2.8GHz = RM769 (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X6 1035T 2.8GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X4 960T 3.30GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)
Phenom II X4 940T 3.00GHz = RMXXX (Coming Soon!)

so i expect these might made the 955 price lower abit tongue.gif  hope so..
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this 1 caught my attention drool.gif lets hope it is below RM650. den i gonna save a little more to get it.
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yeap yeap..same here too...but i wan to know what is d difference between 1055T and 1035T...both is at the same clock speed and 6 core too drool.gif
i juz wait the review com out...1 more mth+ seems like taking ages to arrive lol yawn.gif
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Perhaps the cache? hmm.gif.
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make sense.. mayb 4MB and 6MB?
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seems like the clock speed is different..
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yah...1055T is 2.8 n 1035T is 2.6ghz...mayb d seller typo... and the 1055T seems like got 2 version TDP:

# Phenom II X6 1035T – 2.6GHz / 95W
# Phenom II X6 1055T – 2,8GHz / 95W
# Phenom II X6 1055T – 2,8GHz / 125W

# Phenom II X6 1075T – 3,0GHz /125W
(taken from ojay source)

I'm be aiming for 1035T brows.gif and i hope they really implement d Dynamic Speed Boost in d hexa core juz like Intel Turbo Boost drool.gif

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I'd love to have an x6 btw. It is exactly what I need. 2 threads for hosting server, 2 threads for testing hosting on linux, 2 threads for gaming... mmm. Intel has better processor, sure... but it costs a lot... a lot. And I'm an AMD fanboy, unless intel's performance is irresistable.

HT cores are not as good as real cores, you can't really stick a server to run purely on the HT thread. Of course, for rendering purposes, it's good.

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Dynamic Boost report


i also recall reading from somewhere that Zosma will have this feature too..

so guys Zosma? Thuban?...anyway have to wait the reviews and benchies la..

really bang for ur buck might came from the non-BE edition (with decent ocbility)..just look at the price point blink.gif
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better wait for the 8/12 cores..amd already have 8 & 12 cores for server..hope they can release the normal desktop version too..cheapest is $266..that is for a server..normal desktop proc should be cheaper.. rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Mar 22 2010, 08:32 PM)
the 5 core 1055T looks like unlockable  hmm.gif
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5 core 1055T?
Phenom II x6 got 5 cores?



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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 30 2010, 08:40 PM)
better wait for the 8/12 cores..amd already have 8 & 12 cores for server..hope they can release the normal desktop version too..cheapest is $266..that is for a server..normal desktop proc should be cheaper.. rclxms.gif

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wait long long . com lo
8 core and 12 core is utilizing G32 and G34 socket
won't be fit into AM3
wait for Bulldozer bro


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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 30 2010, 08:40 PM)
better wait for the 8/12 cores..amd already have 8 & 12 cores for server..hope they can release the normal desktop version too..cheapest is $266..that is for a server..normal desktop proc should be cheaper.. rclxms.gif

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i bet we wont be seeing 8/12 cores anytime soon. amd release 6-core for server quite some time ago, and now only we can see 6cores coming to desktop.
after this 6-cores, the next exciting thing from amd is BULLDOZERS!!!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif
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i read somewhere that PII 955 will be refreshed to 95W. so better wait 1st lor..
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Mar 31 2010, 06:14 PM)
i read somewhere that PII 955 will be refreshed to 95W. so better wait 1st lor..
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when 6-cores tdp can be 95/125W, quaddie shud be 65W rclxms.gif
cant wait cant wait, benchie benchie
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Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition 3.20GHz for only RM1159!?!? WOW!! I am very excited and interested on this processor.. AMD are doing the great job again smile.gif

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i just upgraded from single core to quad 955be and it was kinda a big leap for me..now x6 cores..with dynamic boost...with interesting pricing tag...i want one! icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Mar 30 2010, 08:40 PM)
better wait for the 8/12 cores..amd already have 8 & 12 cores for server..hope they can release the normal desktop version too..cheapest is $266..that is for a server..normal desktop proc should be cheaper.. rclxms.gif

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nah
amd released 6core almost more than a year on opteron
they dun release on desktop bcoz 4 core is more than enuf for games
wan 12 core lagi
i wonder wht game can support
12 core mean for workstation , tat why they release on server only
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gigabtyte GA-M57SLI-S4 can support this processor?
if cant can at least support phenom?
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QUOTE(Pandora1988 @ Mar 31 2010, 10:41 PM)
nah
amd released 6core almost more than a year on opteron
they dun release on desktop bcoz 4 core is more than enuf for games
wan 12 core lagi
i wonder wht game can support
12 core mean for workstation , tat why they release on server only
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even 4cores is not fully utilizes for game...
only some game utilizes 4 core like gtaIV....
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QUOTE(thken @ Apr 2 2010, 01:48 AM)
gigabtyte GA-M57SLI-S4 can support this processor?
if cant can at least support phenom?
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btw, here's the link: http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherb...&ver=#anchor_os
support up to Phenom II 945, both 95/125W.. kind of strange hmm.gif it support 125W but does not support Phenom II 955 which is also 125W TDP
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thank god i didn't buy the i5 yet, at least if i buy this and bulldozer come out i can switch to bulldozer
I think bulldozer will use another socket.
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Apr 2 2010, 01:55 PM)
thank god i didn't buy the i5 yet, at least if i buy this and bulldozer come out i can switch to bulldozer
I think bulldozer will use another socket.
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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 2 2010, 02:11 PM)
but AMD procs is backward compatible..
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There is a limit on how backward compatible things are. Rumor is, Bulldozer is based on totally new architecture so I doubt it will fit on any current mobo. Look at K7 (socket A) and K8 (start with socket 754), and the current K10 is just a beefed up K8
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 2 2010, 02:22 PM)
There is a limit on how backward compatible things are. Rumor is, Bulldozer is based on totally new architecture so I doubt it will fit on any current mobo. Look at K7 (socket A) and K8 (start with socket 754), and the current K10 is just a beefed up K8
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QUOTE(Najmods @ Apr 2 2010, 02:22 PM)
There is a limit on how backward compatible things are. Rumor is, Bulldozer is based on totally new architecture so I doubt it will fit on any current mobo. Look at K7 (socket A) and K8 (start with socket 754), and the current K10 is just a beefed up K8
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It'll support AM3 motherboard with DDR3 only DDR3.So it'd be something like AM3+ for Bulldozer and it still can support AM3.
Have a look at the roadmap
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2871/2
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QUOTE(Pandora1988 @ Mar 31 2010, 10:41 PM)
nah
amd released 6core almost more than a year on opteron
they dun release on desktop bcoz 4 core is more than enuf for games
wan 12 core lagi
i wonder wht game can support
12 core mean for workstation , tat why they release on server only
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QUOTE(kingkingyyk @ Apr 2 2010, 01:55 PM)
thank god i didn't buy the i5 yet, at least if i buy this and bulldozer come out i can switch to bulldozer
I think bulldozer will use another socket.
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Bulldozer does support AM3..Just like AM2+ proc can be used on AM2 but with some features disabled/lowered.
But Bulldozer wont be supporting DDR2/AM2+ socket anymore.
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AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition RM999

from yoongkeen thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1118302

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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Apr 2 2010, 11:39 PM)
AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition RM999

from yoongkeen thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1118302
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so finally..core i5 challenger is here... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yanhui95 @ Apr 2 2010, 11:39 PM)
AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition RM999

from yoongkeen thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1118302
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wow, price come out.. rclxm9.gif
AMD Phenom X6 1055T is same price as Intel core i5 750.
AMD Phenom X6 1090T Black Edition is same price as Intel core i7 860.
hope phenom ii x4 will drop price..
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wow...niceeee...x6 @ the price of i5 750 thumbup.gif rclxms.gif ..cant wait to c d review rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 3 2010, 12:49 AM)
wow...niceeee...x6 @ the price of i5 750 thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif ..cant wait to c d review  rclxm9.gif
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yea, can't wait too..

havent seen the price for AMD Phenom II X6 1035T.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Apr 3 2010, 01:37 AM)
yea, can't wait too..

havent seen the price for AMD Phenom II X6 1035T..   brows.gif
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oh yeah, i totally forget about tat 1035T...guess it b around <RM650 and this will cause x4 price to drop moar drool.gif ....what a good year from AMD tis year thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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yea, thats great.. rclxm9.gif

wonder the performance of Phenom II X6 1035T can beat Phenom II X4 965 BE or not?
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then wait for official benchy. i'm also waiting for it. wonder how great the tech of AMD X6 drool.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ Apr 3 2010, 04:04 AM)
yea, thats great..  rclxm9.gif

wonder the performance of Phenom II X6 1035T can beat Phenom II X4 965 BE or not?
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single-treaded software - hard to say, coz same architecture, might be slower

wait for reviews
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see how far the turbo boost on Phenom II X6 can go..
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QUOTE(onimusha_m16 @ Apr 3 2010, 09:00 AM)
multi-treaded software - might be faster
single-treaded software - hard to say, coz same architecture, might be slower

wait for reviews
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if single threaded app, then i guess is between AMD's turbo vs 965 clock speed. but i think with 3.4GHz stock clock, 965 still will win..


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see how far the turbo boost on Phenom II X6 can go..
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Hoping phenom x6 will be ca fight with i7 series.
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QUOTE(Rosaki @ Apr 5 2010, 11:22 PM)
Hoping phenom x6 will be ca fight with i7 series.
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AMD Announces Turbo Core

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2362398,00.asp

The Phenom ll x6 will do well against those i5 and i7. thumbup.gif

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phenom ii x6 is reminiscence of Ahtlon X2 6400 i would say; hot and power hungry and doesnt perform much better. not worth of an upgrade unless u have a compatible motherboard with an old single core/athlon x2.
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Most prolly can match the performance of i7 920.
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wow, phenom x6 only can fight with i7 920... 6 core vs 4 core... sweat.gif

i hoping this thurban 6 core can fight 980X.... both also 6 core physical but 980X with 12 thread... sweat.gif again...


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QUOTE(techmostwanted @ Apr 10 2010, 04:50 PM)
phenom ii x6 is reminiscence of Ahtlon X2 6400 i would say; hot and power hungry and doesnt perform much better. not worth of an upgrade unless u have a compatible motherboard with an old single core/athlon x2.
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wow
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Apr 10 2010, 10:37 PM)
wow, phenom x6 only can fight with i7 920... 6 core vs 4 core... sweat.gif

i hoping this thurban 6 core can fight 980X.... both also 6 core physical but 980X with 12 thread... sweat.gif again...
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Thats why you have to look the price point smile.gif

Be it AMD have 24 Cores while Intel 6 Cores but if the price are much cheaper than 6 Cores yet faster,who cares?
Just like 2 GPU VS 1 GPU doh.gif
Price/performance that matters..
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 10 2010, 10:44 PM)
Thats why you have to look the price point smile.gif

Be it AMD have 24 Cores while Intel 6 Cores but if the price are much cheaper than 6 Cores yet faster,who cares?
Just like 2 GPU VS 1 GPU doh.gif
Price/performance that matters..
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Intel has just one very high end 6 core processor out and the others are yet to be seen. Unlike AMD releasing quite some number of 6 cores and Quad cores priced below 300 USD.

I mean 999 USD ?? I'll buy the high end Pll x6 (299 USD) and have 450 USD for GC (HD5870) and still have money left to get some beer icon_rolleyes.gif

Intel obviously will beat the hell out of Pll x6 but then again for the ridiculous price tag it's not worth the buck. Especially for gamers hack even for normal users, unless you are filthy rich or you are building a workstation. drool.gif

I personally think better upgrade to the quad cores with the turbo cores that are coming around this May together with the Pll x6. thumbup.gif

And wait out for the bulldozer cores to come in 2011. Then we will see NVIDIA and AMD leads the technology market while INTEL trying to catch up with workstation products like 980X. sweat.gif


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Let's see if this Phenom II X6 can match the power of Ci7 920.

Well, judging from certain benchmark of 965 BE at 3.8ghz and 3.4ghz, Phenom II has to be about x7~x10 to match out i7 920.
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any comparisons ?

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gah.... the result... expected wan....
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Well, judging from certain benchmark of 965 BE at 3.8ghz and 3.4ghz, Phenom II has to be about x7~x10 to match out i7 920.
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These are even better: AMD Opteron 2435 CPU Review and A Glance into the Future: Six-Core AMD Istanbul in a Desktop Platform. From the results there, its not hard to see why AMD need to add the "Turbo" function. hmm.gif

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The TDP is very good eventhough you are having six cores to play around. The performance really slow ar? a way behind X4. Why they wanna release a processor which is slower than current version? plus its DDR2 huhu. if AMD release DDR3, I think the RAM price will be cheaper.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 11 2010, 07:40 AM)
The TDP is very good eventhough you are having six cores to play around. The performance really slow ar? a way behind X4. Why they wanna release a processor which is slower than current version? plus its DDR2 huhu. if AMD release DDR3, I think the RAM price will be cheaper.
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ddr3 can be used..
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 11 2010, 07:40 AM)
The TDP is very good eventhough you are having six cores to play around. The performance really slow ar? a way behind X4. Why they wanna release a processor which is slower than current version? plus its DDR2 huhu. if AMD release DDR3, I think the RAM price will be cheaper.
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why would the RAM going to be cheaper?
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because they can be widely use(Intel and AMD) and it will have massive production of DDR3, when there are many DDR3 available, price will cut down. marketing strategy.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 11 2010, 10:49 AM)
because they can be widely use(Intel and AMD) and it will have massive production of DDR3, when there are many DDR3 available, price will cut down. marketing strategy.
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amd already support ddr3 with their year old AM3 socket now.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 11 2010, 07:40 AM)
The TDP is very good eventhough you are having six cores to play around. The performance really slow ar? a way behind X4. Why they wanna release a processor which is slower than current version? plus its DDR2 huhu. if AMD release DDR3, I think the RAM price will be cheaper.
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it was June 2009 . it was an Opteron, it was intended Socket F, it was ECC DDR2, it was intended to be server platform, very good TDP there
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I was wondering when this hexacore will available in market. I see Cex selling one. But in *coming soon* mode... laugh.gif
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Expected release should be April 26th, but to reach malaysia expect another 1 month. Sometimes i really hope AMD would just release it faster

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availability in malaysia is not my main concern, no money to buy until june anyway ;p
but i would love to see the real benchie. but seeing the opteron vs i7 benchie posted by lex, my expectation of this new proc has taken a serious knocked.. sad.gif
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looks like it is coming very soon with the leaked pictures...
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http://en.expreview.com/2010/04/10/amd-phe...china/7035.html

Saw the news , it seems like the 1055T will be cost about RM999 ? wrong info maybe ?
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yoongkeen said can order by this week or next week

btw guys...if playing games...usually how many cores will be used ??
example battlefield bad company 2
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QUOTE(jimmydotnet @ Apr 12 2010, 09:08 PM)
yoongkeen said can order by this week or next week

btw guys...if playing games...usually how many cores will be used ??
example battlefield bad company 2
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duo core , I3 would be more than enough , but only GTA4 and Supreme Commander use 4 cores
6 cores , not sure maybe you can have a look at some 980x game benchmark


Added on April 12, 2010, 9:34 pmbut does the seller confirm the price is not RM 999 ?

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It depends on the game. Usually most games nowadays support dual core. But it is a wise to upgrade to Quad core. In the future, more game looks like going to quad core.

The game that support quad core, which is very famous now is GTA 4. I can feel the difference when using C2D and C2Q.

Here is the review on Dual Core VS Quad Core

http://www.overclock.net/pc-games/659536-c...re-vs-quad.html
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RM999 is so expensive and it is most probably correct as it is stated to cost about USD299?
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owh...hmm...faster2 X6...im cumming for X4..will be cheaper rite ??
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QUOTE(jimmydotnet @ Apr 12 2010, 09:57 PM)
owh...hmm...faster2 X6...im cumming for X4..will be cheaper rite ??
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I doubt the X6 will be anymore faster and X4's price should be quite stable already.

We shall see soon enough by the end of this month or early May.
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2.8ghz true six-core design..lol..can it beat the eight virtual core of i7?..

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Lets take assumption x4 920 2.8 ghz is 3000 points , so if x6 = 4500 points.But non of application make use of 6 cores.So it just same as 4 cores.

Try and find a benchmark on Intel Core i7 980X - 3.33GHz vs Core i7 975 Extreme - 3.33GHz
You'll see a barely 10% of most of the program make use of 6 cores.But some said future proof but when future comes making use of 6 cores , the price would be far more cheaper and 8 cores will be out.
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i'm looking forward to pair this X6 BE with 890FX/SB850...

i read somemore SB850 still have performance issues as with SB750.. esp when power management/C&Q turned on

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im waiting anxiously to throw my pentiumD into my rubbish bin~
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any benchmarks? now deciding between i5 750/i7 860 or X6 1035t/X6 1055t
my only concern is power consumption
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Apr 12 2010, 10:06 PM)
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2.8ghz true six-core design..lol..can it beat the eight virtual core of i7?..
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COre i7 980X has 6 core and 12 virtual threads...but still,the performance of it is very unpromising as softtware used to have a hard time utilizing 4 cores now they wana utilize all 6 cores?

I bet this would be a log way to go until we see a REAL performance boost of having more cores rather than having higher CPU speed

that's why the speed range stays within 2.XX GHz until 3.XX GHz ..coz any stock speed beyond that and they'll have problems with keeping the power consumption down huhu
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QUOTE(mellovicious @ Apr 12 2010, 11:10 PM)
im waiting anxiously to throw my pentiumD into my rubbish bin~
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im very very satisfied with i7, but ntg makes me more excited than AMD releasing new proc (except the original phenom..).
cant wait for benchie, 2 more weeks to go!!!!
and hopefully the price is right, and i might be able to get 1 6-core, or price drop for p2 955 drool.gif


but 1 think i really hate bout AMD is, their stock fan very lousy doh.gif my old p2 955, athlon2 620, athlon2 435.. fans very noisy doh.gif

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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 13 2010, 09:18 AM)
you can throw to me, dun throw into rubbish bin  tongue.gif
im very very satisfied with i7, but ntg makes me more excited than AMD releasing new proc (except the original phenom..).
cant wait for benchie, 2 more weeks to go!!!!
and hopefully the price is right, and i might be able to get 1 6-core, or price drop for p2 955 drool.gif
but 1 think i really hate bout AMD is, their stock fan very lousy  doh.gif  my old p2 955, athlon2 620, athlon2 435.. fans very noisy  doh.gif
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i nvr know the stock fan is so loud until i go over my fren house whom has 955BE and he complain it is so freaking loud and i advise him to chg the cooler to aftermarket cooler....and i was shock to c the fan spin at 6k rpm (60%) when d pc is at idle.....i wonder what will happen if the fan spin at 100%.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 13 2010, 09:18 AM)
you can throw to me, dun throw into rubbish bin  tongue.gif
im very very satisfied with i7, but ntg makes me more excited than AMD releasing new proc (except the original phenom..).
cant wait for benchie, 2 more weeks to go!!!!
and hopefully the price is right, and i might be able to get 1 6-core, or price drop for p2 955 drool.gif
but 1 think i really hate bout AMD is, their stock fan very lousy  doh.gif  my old p2 955, athlon2 620, athlon2 435.. fans very noisy  doh.gif
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AMD stock fan not good at all ... unlike intel, can oc with stock fan onli laugh.gif


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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 13 2010, 12:28 PM)
i nvr know the stock fan is so loud until i go over my fren house whom has 955BE and he complain it is so freaking loud and i advise him to chg the cooler to aftermarket cooler....and i was shock to c the fan spin at 6k rpm (60%) when d pc is at idle.....i wonder what will happen if the fan spin at 100%.... sweat.gif
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initially i thought i got problem when assembling my AMD 955, later when googling, 995 is very well known for its loudness. nao using Xigmatek RS everithing solved thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 13 2010, 12:28 PM)
i nvr know the stock fan is so loud until i go over my fren house whom has 955BE and he complain it is so freaking loud and i advise him to chg the cooler to aftermarket cooler....and i was shock to c the fan spin at 6k rpm (60%) when d pc is at idle.....i wonder what will happen if the fan spin at 100%.... sweat.gif
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idle oso 6k? tell him he can adjust that in bios, forget wat option tho. my old 955 load oso 6krpm, damn noisy i tell u. i on my pc inside my room, i can hear the fan while standing in living room. shakehead.gif then i tot my fan faulty, but when i did some research online, i found out that phenom II fan is generally noisy. hope AMD can improve this..

now my Athlon oc to 3120MHz only max already 59c.. and very noisy already. gonna need to buy a new fan soon.


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QUOTE(azerroes @ Apr 13 2010, 12:31 PM)
AMD stock fan not good at all ... unlike intel, can oc with stock fan onli laugh.gif


Added on April 13, 2010, 12:33 pm

initially i thought i got problem when assembling my AMD 955, later when googling, 995 is very well known for its loudness. nao using Xigmatek RS everithing solved thumbup.gif
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ur xigmatek performance how? and how much? i look for a good cheaper fan, dun wan spend too much on fan for my Athlon tongue.gif

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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 12 2010, 09:55 AM)
availability in malaysia is not my main concern, no money to buy until june anyway ;p
but i would love to see the real benchie. but seeing the opteron vs i7 benchie posted by lex, my expectation of this new proc has taken a serious knocked.. 
Remember the Athlon II/Phenom II X3 performance? That's why they need at least 3 cores in "Turbo" mode (while keeping within thermal and power limits). smile.gif

QUOTE(mellovicious @ Apr 12 2010, 11:10 PM)
im waiting anxiously to throw my pentiumD into my rubbish bin~
Donate it to me? rclxms.gif Anyway, your motherboard can support newer 45nm Core 2 Quad.. wink.gif

QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 13 2010, 01:02 AM)
any benchmarks? now deciding between i5 750/i7 860 or X6 1035t/X6 1055t
my only concern is power consumption
Someone got hold of it here: [XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)...
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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 13 2010, 09:18 AM)
but 1 think i really hate bout AMD is, their stock fan very lousy  doh.gif  my old p2 955, athlon2 620, athlon2 435.. fans very noisy
That's why I've always recommend a 3rd party CPU cooler for Phenom II X4s. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 13 2010, 01:04 PM)


Someone got hold of it here: [XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)...
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huh? 1055T in the market already? lucky man he is!
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According to the benchi done in XS forum, the X6 1055T @ 2.8ghz is about the performance of i7 920 @ 2.667ghz.

According to this benchmark in the spoiler, AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2800mhz have to X8 to win a Core i7 920 @ 3267mhz.
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From http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showth...t=249434&page=2.

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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 13 2010, 01:04 PM)
Someone got hold of it here: [XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)...
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I lol-ed at the result shocking.gif

My Core i7 920 @ 3267mhz 7zip result vs. Phenom II X6 1055T @ 2800mhz 7zip result:
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Another leaked benchies, this time its: Some benchmarks of Thuban X6 1090T (original source: AMD六核1055T處理器1999元到貨 , also has X4 1090T @ 4.2GHz benches as well). cool2.gif

X6 1090T....
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X4 1090T @ 4.2GHz...
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More previews here: AMD's Core-frequency technology, Turbo Core features the world's first test (X6 1055T, original source: AMD的睿频技术,Turbo Core功能全球首试 - 超能网)...
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Warning for 56K modem users: Many large images. sweat.gif

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I am not good reading those benchmark , so what's the ranking for those 2 processor ? compare with i7 and 965BE ?
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So how beneficial issit moving from quad to six core? hmm.gif
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maybe for multitasking like converting 10 video files in one shot batch
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still no idea abt power consumption? idle/load??
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 13 2010, 06:45 PM)
I am not good reading those benchmark , so what's the ranking for those 2 processor ? compare with i7 and 965BE ?
Just compare the results (seems the common one here is Cinebench scores). The Phenom II X6 1055T seems slower than either Core i5 750 and Phenom II X4 965 in Cinebench 32-bit version (you can guess how the lower Phenom II X6 1035T will perform), but takes back the lead in Cinebench R11.5. The Phenom II X6 1090T trade punches with Core i7 930, faster in Cinebench R11.5 and wPrime (reference comparison here) but slower in Cinebench R10 and SuperPi. However its nowhere near any of the higher Core i7 processors. From the pricing already can estimate its performance (though looking at the prices of Phenom II X6 1035T and 1055T does not make much sense yet). hmm.gif

QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 13 2010, 09:58 PM)
still no idea abt power consumption? idle/load??
No idea yet.. unsure.gif . Looking at the results, looks like slightly aggressive CnQ implementation here (possibly to keep the processor within thermal and power limits). wink.gif

Edit: Reason? Compare with this: A Glance into the Future: Six-Core AMD Istanbul in a Desktop Platform (page 9): Rendering..
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go here for some info..
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=249434
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QUOTE(neutrino @ Apr 13 2010, 10:23 PM)
Already posted here earlier.. tongue.gif
QUOTE(lex @ Apr 13 2010, 01:04 PM)
Someone got hold of it here: [XS]Just got Phenom II x6 1055T (Retail)...
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QUOTE(Turnip @ Apr 13 2010, 08:24 PM)
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So how beneficial issit moving from quad to six core?  hmm.gif
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according to fudzilla, i7 wins in gaming, but X6 wins in multi-tasking 3D and rendering.
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Hi lex ,When comparing to multi tasking , using cinebench single thread and multi tread ,

Which rank will it be ? because I dont know how to read , what score for it on single threaded ? 2925 even slower than Athlon X4 630 ?
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 14 2010, 05:16 PM)
Hi lex  ,When comparing to multi tasking , using cinebench single thread and multi tread ,

Which rank will it be ? because I dont know how to read , what score for it on single threaded ? 2925 even slower than Athlon X4 630 ?
As for rank, you will have to wait for full reviews first (which includes productivity and gaming benchmarks) hmm.gif When it comes to multi-thread then that depends on the version of Cinebench, the older (32-bit version) favors multiple hardware threads while the newer version favors multiple real cores. Thus pretty much depends on the algorithm, coding and compilers used by the application itself. As for the slower single thread issue, often extra cores sharing the same resources (such as the L3 cache and memory bandwidth) does affect it. A nice example here: AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE - 3.2GHz - 1MB L2 - 6MB L3 ..vs.. AMD Phenom II X4 955 - 3.2GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3 - check the single thread Cinebench results between those two processors (both of them have same clock speed and L3 cache but different number of cores). wink.gif
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1055T already on the shelves in SG here.
$309 per piece.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthre...2727731&page=15

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yeah overthere so fast..
better get earlier batch can do 4ghz..
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yeah overthere so fast..
better get earlier batch can do 4ghz..
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you mean earlier batch can oc higher?


i'm tempted to get one to replace my 2 years old e2140.
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QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Apr 14 2010, 11:38 AM)
according to fudzilla, i7 wins in gaming, but X6 wins in multi-tasking 3D and rendering.
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Really?must be because of the additional 2 true cores.

My hands are itchy to move from quad to hex. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Apr 14 2010, 08:54 PM)
you mean earlier batch can oc higher?
i'm tempted to get one to replace my 2 years old e2140.
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i observed mostly.. 3.8ghz at least.. but some 4.2ghz.. <1.5v for current batch..

just afraid when reach here the batch is not so good.. coz late².. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 14 2010, 06:30 PM)
As for rank, you will have to wait for full reviews first (which includes productivity and gaming benchmarks) hmm.gif When it comes to multi-thread then that depends on the version of Cinebench, the older (32-bit version) favors multiple hardware threads while the newer version favors multiple real cores. Thus pretty much depends on the algorithm, coding and compilers used by the application itself. As for the slower single thread issue, often extra cores sharing the same resources (such as the L3 cache and memory bandwidth) does affect it. A nice example here: AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE - 3.2GHz - 1MB L2 - 6MB L3 ..vs.. AMD Phenom II X4 955 - 3.2GHz - 2MB L2 - 6MB L3 - check the single thread Cinebench results between those two processors (both of them have same clock speed and L3 cache but different number of cores). wink.gif
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So which kind of benchmark or any test software is the most accurate for single thread performance ?
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this proc has not been launched yet..how come in singapore it is already been sold?..
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this proc has not been launched yet..how come in singapore it is already been sold?..
Just like i3, lowyat shops were start selling them before it is launched. wink.gif

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More Phenom II X6 benchmarks (including gaming) here: 四核落伍了!AMD羿龙II六核1055T全球首测.. wink.gif

Gaming benchmark results..
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QUOTE(Riddhy @ Apr 13 2010, 09:58 PM)
still no idea abt power consumption? idle/load??
Check the benchmark link posted. nod.gif

QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 14 2010, 11:15 PM)
So which kind of benchmark or any test software is the most accurate for single thread performance ?
Many of them can be used to determine single thread performance. Cinebench single thread is a pretty good indication since its hardly affected by memory speeds. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Phenom II X4 960T ''Zosma'' Unlock to Phenom II X6
AMD's upcoming series of Phenom II X4 900T series that supports AMD Turbo Core technology, and which are based on the "Zosma" die, have been confirmed to be able to unlock both its manufacturer-disabled cores to work as a six-core processor. Zosma is a "cut-down" version of AMD's Thuban six-core die, where two of its cores are disabled. With the remaining four cores, two can function with increased clock-speeds in boost-state as Turbo cores (3/6 could on the X6 chip).

The core unlocking is said to have been done on an AMD 890GX chipset based motherboard, in the same way disabled cores on Phenom II X3 and X2 chips are unlocked. One of the first models based on Zosma are the Phenom II X4 960T and X4 940T, which operate at 3.30 GHz and 3.00 GHz, respectively. Their Turbo Core speeds are up to 500 MHz over clock speeds, depending on the model. The X4 T-series could form AMD's mainstream processor in the sub-$200 range
http://techpowerup.com/120231/Phenom_II_X4...enom_II_X6.html
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its available now in lowyat o.o!
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Yes, cycom is selling 1055T at RM669. wink.gif
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Just wanted to ask , what's the temperature for it ? any bench of temperature measurements during idle and load with stock cooler ?
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good news..

lucky i bought AM3 mobo

haha... nice jobs AMD


now intel got Challenger
hopefully price more affordable after this


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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Apr 17 2010, 01:31 AM)
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Just wanted to ask , what's the temperature for it ? any bench of temperature measurements during idle and load with stock cooler ?
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there is no official benchmark for these procs as they havent been launched yet..
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so the 1090T is not a "BE" version afterall huh?
Too bad.
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i believe intel have new challenger.. but after all still i7 pwn x6.... quad core pwn hexa core feel like not fair enuff.... AMD shud hardworking

but i still go for x6 due to new technology with nice price not like intel awes overprice.. sweat.gif

btw, y 1090T is not BE?? if not BE, multiplier confirm lock.

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I think the BE will come sooner or later. But what i like is the price. surely gonna be selling like hot cakes smile.gif

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Apr 17 2010, 10:42 AM)
i believe intel have new challenger.. but after all still i7 pwn x6.... quad core pwn hexa core feel like not fair enuff.... AMD shud hardworking

but i still go for x6 due to new technology with nice price not like intel awes overprice.. sweat.gif

btw, y 1090T is not BE?? if not BE, multiplier confirm lock.
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actually its not new tech , juz a deneb + 2core + turbospeed
but x6 really with swt price brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Apr 17 2010, 10:59 AM)
actually its not new tech , juz a deneb + 2core + turbospeed
but x6 really with swt price brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
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i7 just use old technology when pentium 4 HT that time...
quad core with enable HT...
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nobody got it yet?
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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 15 2010, 01:17 AM)
More Phenom II X6 benchmarks (including gaming) here: 四核落伍了!AMD羿龙II六核1055T全球首测.. wink.gif

Gaming benchmark results..
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Check the benchmark link posted.  nod.gif

Many of them can be used to determine single thread performance. Cinebench single thread is a pretty good indication since its hardly affected by memory speeds.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Woah, so expensive yet so slow! It is only on par with an Intel Core i5 750 doh.gif
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wah... i7 still own big time eh ? doh.gif
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Judging from previos benchmark posted at xtreme, AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 4219mhz 6 true core just barely match the performance of Intel Core i7 920 @ 2667mhz.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 18 2010, 02:22 AM)
Woah, so expensive yet so slow! It is only on par with an Intel Core i5 750 doh.gif
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wer got expensive , selling price at 650 , performance par with i7 920 when multithread program is used , 6core is useful in rendering cool2.gif cool2.gif
gaming performance is expected to be same is 965be

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the poison keep coming... hope I can get 965 be for much lower price maybe rm400 rclxms.gif
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lol by looking at benchies I'll guess I stick with my phenom 955
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Most people fail to see that not much game/software really needs four core, let alone six. Most software/games still favors high clocked of fewer cores rather than slower speed with more cores, which is why most of the time the Phenom II X4 wins.

Don't expect miracles, it still based on K10 'Stars' architecture, with a couple more cores with dynamic boost, no other architectural difference. Until AMD release new architecture, Intel will continue to dominate the higher end segment
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agree, wif najmods. Not all games can utilities all the cores perfectly, AMD need to have a new architecture to be on par with i7.
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me still using 2 duo....i feel its enough lol
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Wow Wow, I'm loving the pricing esp the hexacore 2.8ghz, come on AMD, bring it out quickly! Love to own a hexacore without overpaying!
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QUOTE(leyley @ Apr 20 2010, 02:47 AM)
me still using 2 duo....i feel its enough lol
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More core give only little help in gaming.
But in multi threading, i would give a great boost in performance.
I agree with area61, better upgrade ur gc then CPU if u want higher fps in gaming. biggrin.gif
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rm 629 in viewnet for 1055t so zosma 960t 3.0ghz will be around rm 500~550 and it can unlock to 6 cores wow
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So what's the socket for x6? AM3 also?
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So what's the socket for x6? AM3 also?
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Save money on changing new socket... : laugh.gif
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why its so hard to find PII X6 review? i try to find the review but seem all not concrete.
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why its so hard to find PII X6 review? i try to find the review but seem all not concrete.
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because not officially released..
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so can i safely say that

i7 920 > PII X6 1090T > PII X6 1055T > i5 750 ?
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price will tell u..

some gathered info here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=249750
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Finally swisspac is available priced at RM667 for 1055t and RM998 for 1090t
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hmm nice..
i'm itching to go buy 1 today
but the newer steppings sure wont yield much overclock
my current 955 can go more than 3.8ghz per core..
hmmm
to buy or not to buy
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when is the date of official release?
i too tired of waiting..
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when is the date of official release?
i too tired of waiting..
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im considering either buying X4 965 or X6 1055T.
or maybe go for higher end i7 930 or X6 1090T


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x6 already on sale.. ur board also can support..
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Actually im buying for my wife. she asked me she want intel i5 product. for me rather go for i7 or Phenom II, since i5 is comparable to Phenom II.

If i buy phenom II, most possibly i go for Asus Turbocore then it should get more performance, even using X4 965 IMHO.


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QUOTE(lordskarn @ Apr 22 2010, 12:06 PM)
hmm nice..
i'm itching to go buy 1 today
but the newer steppings sure wont yield much overclock
my current 955 can go more than 3.8ghz per core..
hmmm
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sell ur 955 and get it..haha
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great news AMD is really pushing hard, what i dun understand is that when 3 cores is idle, 3 cores get boosted up. Whats the reason just say if im nt stressing the chip and 3 cores is boosted isnt it a waste of energy. I dun really understand the reason behind this technology.

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 22 2010, 06:25 PM)
great news AMD is really pushing hard, what i dun understand is that when 3 cores is idle, 3 cores get boosted up. Whats the reason just say if im nt stressing the chip and 3 cores is boosted isnt it a waste of energy. I dun really understand the reason behind this technology.
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it's not like that... if not stressing them.. the cores just idle..

if only when using the software which not have benefit on extra cores.. like use 2 cores like that..
which favour on high speed.. so the remaining 3 cores just idle n another 3 cores getting the boost needed..
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It is really good for normal users.

Think about only 1-5% on the world knows overclock which the rest dont.
It benefits alot actually smile.gif

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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Apr 21 2010, 05:19 PM)
so can i safely say that

i7 920 > PII X6 1090T > PII X6 1055T > i5 750 ?
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Yeap, and that's before overclocking too. As far as I can see, overclocking those PII X6 doesn't yield much performance as compared to those Core i7s and Core i5s.
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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 23 2010, 12:23 AM)
Yeap, and that's before overclocking too. As far as I can see, overclocking those PII X6 doesn't yield much performance as compared to those Core i7s and Core i5s.
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is there any proof???
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6 physicall cores id say its worth the performance as i can multitask kaw 2 and still c performance but need as much ram as possible to really utilize 6 cores.

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is it recommended to change from i5 to x6? gaming wise the performance should be the same right. but if its for multitasking it should be a win for the x6 right?
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QUOTE(tuonn @ Mar 22 2010, 10:09 PM)
this processor can fight i5 series or maybe i7 series...
this good news... tongue.gif
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Hopefully the new x6 can beat both of the Intel processors... AMD fights Intel... force Intel to lower the price of their processors..


Added on April 24, 2010, 7:41 am
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just have to wait for the benchies... no use if 6 cores but slower than i5 750
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That's true... but I believe AMD is confident with their new products...


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1090T = i7 930
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anyone here dy buy x6??
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QUOTE(S4PH @ Apr 23 2010, 07:44 PM)
6 physicall cores id say its worth the performance as i can multitask kaw 2 and still c performance but need as much ram as possible to really utilize 6 cores.
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nowsday proc is really hard to see which da performance...only benchmark and those multi task could tell.

buying a good proc just to OC and show off...i can said its a waste...as alot of people are doing that whistling.gif
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ppl treat OC as hobby smile.gif
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same like cars etc..
jealous maybe.. whistling.gif

but still.. if no money and not utilize the rig.. better don't buy.. laugh.gif
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For me, I will OC to increase the performance

Me doing encoding and etc etc
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For me, I will OC to increase the performance

Me doing encoding and etc etc
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do software nowadays fully utilize the all 6 core??
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Apr 24 2010, 05:32 PM)
anyone here dy buy x6??
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I just bought it. Currently setting up. Will post CPUz screen when I get the rig up and running.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 25 2010, 08:38 AM)
I just bought it. Currently setting up. Will post CPUz screen when I get the rig up and running.
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1090T or 1055T..if the 1090T is better than then i5..i might opt to change
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 25 2010, 08:38 AM)
I just bought it. Currently setting up. Will post CPUz screen when I get the rig up and running.
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How much you got it? Which MB you pairing with? Thanks.
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QUOTE(excel_saga @ Apr 25 2010, 10:19 AM)
1090T or 1055T..if the 1090T is better than then i5..i might opt to change
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1055T. Lets see how far this baby can go when it comes to overclocking.


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How much you got it? Which MB you pairing with? Thanks.
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Paired with Gigabyte 770T-USB3.

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i got the 1055T, and pair it up with gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H motherboard, not the best board.
Forget about using stock cooling, noisy as hell, and don't bother getting a big chucky cooling when you decide to choose this gigabyte board, depending on ur casing, can be quite troublesome adjusting CPU cooling fan.
Max i get for pushing it is 3.57GHz from the stock 2.8GHz. I did it using cheap rams. Beyond this is unstable for me. Get better rams if you want to overclock over 3.5GHz mark

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for me 3.5ghz-3.6ghz x6 stable already are winner lol..found several pic people at 4.2ghz though!!

can't wait official benchies..


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QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 25 2010, 02:05 PM)
i got the 1055T, and pair it up with gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H motherboard, not the best board.
Forget about using stock cooling, noisy as hell, and don't bother getting a big chucky cooling when you decide to choose this gigabyte board, depending on ur casing, can be quite troublesome adjusting CPU cooling fan.
Max i get for pushing it is 3.57GHz from the stock 2.8GHz. I did it using cheap rams. Beyond this is unstable for me. Get better rams if you want to overclock over 3.5GHz mark
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That is why I didn't choose this board. The build-in graphics card is a waste. The only USB3 motherboard from Gigabyte that I can find is the 770. The cooler is definitely noisy. Will have to change that next.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 25 2010, 04:42 PM)
That is why I didn't choose this board. The build-in graphics card is a waste. The only USB3 motherboard from Gigabyte that I can find is the 770. The cooler is definitely noisy. Will have to change that next.
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how much you got the board and the processor? thanks
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how much you got the board and the processor? thanks
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any cheap 770 785g can support it so any official revs up for power consumptions?
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I think should be around RM1k+
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My 770 C45 can support PIIx6 brows.gif .... but no money to buy sad.gif
So will be waiting for benchie instead.

Feel just like no gf to share a sexy time with, opt for JAV instead. laugh.gif

Btw, I really think for gamer, it is better to stick with your quaddie, or dualie for light gamer.
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Isn't today the release day of the new line of cpus? Or has it been dragged til tomorrow?
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QUOTE(TiF @ Apr 26 2010, 12:26 PM)
My 770 C45 can support PIIx6  brows.gif  .... but no money to buy  sad.gif
So will be waiting for benchie instead.

Feel just like no gf to share a sexy time with, opt for JAV instead. laugh.gif

Btw, I really think for gamer, it is better to stick with your quaddie, or dualie for light gamer.
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msi 770-c45 can support? i checked the website yesterday, still not listed at the cpu support list sweat.gif
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it's finally coming out! Wonder when 960t will be available in the market
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wow u guys already bought it.. *drooling*
i went to ly that day and they said got ready stock.. but but but but didnt want to buy yet want to see whats the performance review 1st..
OC up to 3.5Ghz per core from 2.8 stock is already very good.. is it stable when the turbocore kicks in? hows the power consumption?
with 6 cores I'm thinking of delegating windows etc onto the third core and leaving core 1 & 2 purely for apps and gaming to take benefit of the turbocore.. and leave core 4-6 auto.. hmm maybe I'll get one over the weekend
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here is a bench

http://www.guru3d.com/news/phenom-ii-x6-10...d-1090t-review/
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AMD Phenom X6 1055T 2.8ghz/9mb/125W RM655 Stok Arrived!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1118302&hl=1055T

extremely sweet price for a six cores processor..
Sure will get diabetes... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:25 PM)
AMD Phenom X6 1055T 2.8ghz/9mb/125W RM655 Stok Arrived!

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1118302&hl=1055T

extremely sweet price for a six cores processor..
Sure will get diabetes... laugh.gif
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You can get it for less at Lowyat. I got mine from PCZone at RM630.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 27 2010, 12:31 PM)
You can get it for less at Lowyat. I got mine from PCZone at RM630.
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I think to have this X6 but, it is too cheap for 6 c0res...
kinda curious. Why s0 cheeapppp????? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:42 PM)
I think to have this X6 but, it is too cheap for 6 c0res...
kinda curious. Why s0 cheeapppp????? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:42 PM)
I think to have this X6 but, it is too cheap for 6 c0res...
kinda curious. Why s0 cheeapppp????? shocking.gif
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Coz it's AMD. Yes.. there is no way for it to fight with Intels 6 core I7 980 extreme but the price difference is like heaven and earth.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 27 2010, 12:53 PM)
Coz it's AMD. Yes.. there is no way for it to fight with Intels 6 core I7 980 extreme but the price difference is like heaven and earth.
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From the review, the benchmarks on crysis between X6 and 980X,
there is no really far difference..

http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6...1090t-review/16
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 27 2010, 12:31 PM)
You can get it for less at Lowyat. I got mine from PCZone at RM630.
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What the? shocking.gif
Deng, I got my Phenom II x4 945 3.0ghz around last year around september 2009 for RM550.
today, RM630 can get a x6 cores liao! shocking.gif


but if main purpose is to play games, i think the phenom ii x4 945 3.0ghz (no overclock) still can tahan for quite long, yes? rclxms.gif
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haha AMD / ATI is like heaven 2 earth away from intel / nvidia laugh.gif rclxms.gif intel overpricing i still can tahan but not nvidia overpricing sweat.gif rclxub.gif anyway 4 those ardy had 6 core congrats while i will stick with C2D until intel 8 cores comes out brows.gif icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Apr 27 2010, 12:56 PM)
From the review, the benchmarks on crysis between X6 and 980X,
there is no really far difference..

http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6...1090t-review/16
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That's because the graphics card was the limitation. If you look at lower resolution, the Intel is still king but at a price. At least for the next 1 year, I can say the X6 should not be a limitation in any gaming setup. Unlike graphics card, CPU power should not be a limitation for at least 2-3 years.
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What special about intel proc is the virtual thread if i'm not mistaken...
Like 6 core will be visualize as 12 cores.. coz of capability of the core to process 2 threads per core..
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Its the superior architechture itself that make Intel processor step ahead.
We will see on Bulldozer instead.

Afterall this is really good budget processor(for AM2+ user or new user)
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QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Apr 27 2010, 02:56 PM)
Its the superior architechture itself that make Intel processor step ahead.
We will see on Bulldozer instead.

Afterall this is really good budget processor(for AM2+ user or new user)
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Yeah.. i'm definitely looking forward to X6. Its performance on 1920x1080 is almost as 980X
But it is 5-6 times cheaper than 980X.. And on top of that it can beat 980X on performance per price...
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Review is out for 1055T and 1090T

Tom's Hardware (1090T only):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ph...890fx,2613.html

Anandtech:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3674/amds-si...-1055t-reviewed

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wow~ a bit disappointing...... still way to go AMD!!!!
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based on the reviews, it's not quite up to my expectations though..
but still might consider this as an option for my next upgrade. still indeed proc with a good price/performance ratio wink.gif
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wow~ a bit disappointing...... still way to go AMD!!!!
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u won't need it rather than disappointed..
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phenom 955 with 2 extra cores and turbo, i feel it perform quick as expected ;p but seeing the way AMD pick themself up after the ori phenom disaster and the improvement they made, im very optimistic bout the bulldozers next year.
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based on the reviews, it's not quite up to my expectations though..
but still might consider this as an option for my next upgrade. still indeed proc with a good price/performance ratio wink.gif
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the performance aint bad for media creation , rendering
1055T almost par with i7 860 (650 vs 950bucks) havent mention the overall system will be higher @ intel side
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just oc the thing to 4.2++ on air
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ Apr 27 2010, 05:52 PM)
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ Apr 27 2010, 06:20 PM)
What air cooler u use?
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from review

i have nothing but the 1090t can be oced to 4.2 on air and 5+ on water
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 27 2010, 02:19 PM)
That's because the graphics card was the limitation. If you look at lower resolution, the Intel is still king but at a price. At least for the next 1 year, I can say the X6 should not be a limitation in any gaming setup. Unlike graphics card, CPU power should not be a limitation for at least 2-3 years.
However from this one...
QUOTE(TristanX @ Apr 27 2010, 03:15 PM)
Review is out for 1055T and 1090T

Tom's Hardware (1090T only):
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ph...890fx,2613.html
It seems that depending on the graphics card used (and game tested), there will be limitations due to the platform hmm.gif Quote from here...
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Call it strange, but we ran and re-ran these tests. In fact, we formatted, started over, and got the same results. In Crysis, our Phenom II X6 1090T-based platform is simply slower than its quad-core predecessor—likely a result of its lower non-Turbo clock rate.

“But you’re clearly limited by your graphics card here,” you say. Alright, well, we’re using the 2010 reference system’s Radeon HD 5850, but let’s try something else. We’ll drop a Radeon HD 5870, a 5970, and a GeForce GTX 480 in the 1090T-based platform and see how much performance a faster card buys.

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Amazing—the “fastest” card performs least-impressively, even at 1920x1080 and High quality settings. This is a combination we’d expect to hit the graphics fairly hard, but something is still screwy on the Phenom II X6 1090T-based platform. Now it looks less like our Radeon HD 5850 was holding back performance and more like the processor or platform is to blame.

Let’s try something else. Using a GeForce GTX 480, we’ll compare the performance of a stock Phenom II X6 1090T and a stock Core i7-930, then overclock the former to 3.7 GHz and the latter to 3.66 GHz (both processors with Turbo enabled). We’d expect to see headroom open up if there’s a bottleneck hampering performance.

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Lo and behold, even with the fastest single-GPU card you can buy, the Phenom II X6 doesn’t spring to life. Meanwhile, the overclocked Core i7 leaps forward by quite a bit. This is eerily reminiscent of a gaming piece I wrote back in 2008 comparing high-end AMD and Intel gaming rigs. All else equal, the Phenom X4 I was testing at the time was simply creamed by Core i7 in Crysis.

This one gaming test opened up a ton of additional reformatting, reinstalling, and testing, just to make sure everything was reproducible. The conclusion we’re going to draw early on is that a six-core CPU running at a lower clock rate—Turbo CORE or not—is probably not the way to go for gamers. At any rate, onto Left 4 Dead 2.

More reviews here:
- bit-tech.net: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition
- TechSpot: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE & Phenom II X6 1055T Review
- Legion Hardware: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE & 1055T
- X-bit Labs: Six Cores from AMD: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition and Phenom II X6 1055T CPU Review

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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 27 2010, 04:58 PM)
what's ur expectation?
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expected it to perform better against the core i5/i7. but then again as i said, it's still a good proc.
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expected it to perform better against the core i5/i7. but then again as i said, it's still a good proc.
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it won't.. in current tech..
32nm maybe..
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multi tasking...and those 3d rendering.... amd 6 core suit nicely
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Been thru all the reviews floating around the web today. Anandtech pretty much sums it up nicely:

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The better way to look at it is to ask yourself what sort of machine you're building. If you're building a task specific box that will mostly run heavily threaded applications, AMD will sell you nearly a billion transistors for under $300 and you can't go wrong. If it's a more general purpose machine that you're assembling, Lynnfield seems like a better option.

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One thing is for sure.. it runs cool... this taken just now at room temp with original AMD heatsink.

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Dis new proc..isit better to pair it wit the NEW 890FX chipset....i know dat old AMD mobos dat can support AM3
can use this proc...but wil it have any performance difference when use on a newer 890fx mobo?
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here is the temp for x6 with water cooling..

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i paired with gigabyte 890GX mobo..so far the performance i din feel any differences with the my old 955 + 790GX... sweat.gif

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 27 2010, 10:07 PM)
One thing is for sure.. it runs cool... this taken just now at room temp with original AMD heatsink.
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wow that's really cool temps. will it be any lower if using 3rd party cooler? coz room temp also around that temp hmm.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 27 2010, 10:11 PM)
what about load?
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That was idle..

This one is while playing DragonAge Origins.. which is actually still running in the background while I'm posting this. Still cool...


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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 28 2010, 12:09 AM)
That was idle..

This one is while playing DragonAge Origins.. which is actually still running in the background while I'm posting this. Still cool...
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nice bro..so cold during load plus with original heatsink fan... +10 for AMD... laugh.gif
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ya that's why reviewer said got one problem..
it's running cool.. lol..
if better cooler the load should lesser..

@sleepwalker
is the heatsink copper base?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 27 2010, 11:54 PM)
ya that's why reviewer said got one problem..
it's running cool.. lol..
if better cooler the load should lesser..

@sleepwalker
is the heatsink copper base?
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Stock heatsink is copper base with 4 heat-pipes. Top down fan.
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Stock heatsink is copper base with 4 heat-pipes. Top down fan.
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oh same like those X4 i guess..
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X6 HSF...is it look same with X4 HSF?

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phenomx6 is quite cool..even load is 40 celcius with stock cooler... shocking.gif
n even all core have same temp.... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Apr 27 2010, 08:32 PM)
it won't.. in current tech..
32nm maybe..
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agreed on that. The fabrication technology matters a lot in performance headroom as well as for energy consumption and heat dissipation.
Nonetheless, The X6 is still a very good competitor in terms of performance over price! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Legend86 @ Apr 28 2010, 12:19 AM)
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X6 HSF...is it look same with X4 HSF?
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yuop same..
my intel quaddy heatsink also not good like that.. lol..
even use on celeron oc to 3.3ghz also reaching 8+c while priming..

QUOTE(lhongwuh @ Apr 28 2010, 02:23 AM)
agreed on that. The fabrication technology matters a lot in performance headroom as well as for energy consumption and heat dissipation.
Nonetheless, The X6 is still a very good competitor in terms of performance over price! icon_rolleyes.gif
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quite surprise though amd manage to reduce the tdp and the temp..
want to see 95W proc performing later..

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Nice result for this new fabrication chip.. rclxms.gif
The temp quite promissing even the temp quite high for current Intel chip.. biggrin.gif
That's the stock cooler? Wuhuuu didnt looks like cheapo stock one.. drool.gif
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QUOTE(Hiruka @ Apr 28 2010, 11:34 AM)
Nice result for this new fabrication chip.. rclxms.gif
The temp quite promissing even the temp quite high for current Intel chip.. biggrin.gif
That's the stock cooler? Wuhuuu didnt looks like cheapo stock one.. drool.gif
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Yea...X6 stock cooler...look nice with copper base n 5 pipes....
even intel chip hv higher temp with stock cooler... rclxub.gif
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Yea lol..Intel shud outcome this stock cooler with better build. Not just packed as bundling products to bigger the box.. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Hiruka @ Apr 28 2010, 11:41 AM)
Yea lol..Intel shud outcome this stock cooler with better build. Not just packed as bundling products to bigger the box.. sweat.gif
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hahaha...new AMD retail box damn small..even X6 retail box small like hell...but like this more ECO..kaka... biggrin.gif

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Yea lol..Intel shud outcome this stock cooler with better build. Not just packed as bundling products to bigger the box.. sweat.gif
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haha better buy oem and after market cooler..
by looking on that also sure cannot handle the intel quaddy..
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The new chip really givin an impact on the heat progress. Wanna see how Sandy bridge performing on the same fabrication..
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Several comments have stated that AMD stock fan is noisy, so does that mean it has great cooling capabilities with loud noise as penalty?
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Noisy?i don thk so bro...where u get the several comments? SOS?

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QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 25 2010, 02:05 PM)
i got the 1055T, and pair it up with gigabyte 890GPA-UD3H motherboard, not the best board.
Forget about using stock cooling, noisy as hell
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QUOTE(sora90 @ Apr 28 2010, 03:53 PM)

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huh? i got the same spec like u...din hv any prob like u..but i din use the stock cooler..using wc...but agree with u, it is not the best board... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Hiruka @ Apr 28 2010, 10:41 AM)
Yea lol..Intel shud outcome this stock cooler with better build. Not just packed as bundling products to bigger the box..
You may want to check this (rumor) out: Intel's "K" Unlocked CPUs to feature revised heatsink. hmm.gif

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Several comments have stated that AMD stock fan is noisy, so does that mean it has great cooling capabilities with loud noise as penalty?
Yups, that stock cooler is noisy.. which is why we recommend using a 3rd party CPU cooler. wink.gif

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HohO after getting those supportive feedbacks through all over the webs bout Hyper 212+ and Megashadow, the re-design cooler at least givin a hope to mainstream user..just hoping those flimsy fan could be change all the way out cool2.gif

Another options to all overclocker huh..The unlock multiplier for the new mainstream chip seems naizz drool.gif ..inspired by the AMD again? HuhU nice rumours though biggrin.gif

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waiting for new revision of this proc so that it work better in single threaded stuff
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QUOTE(sora90 @ Apr 28 2010, 02:43 PM)
Several comments have stated that AMD stock fan is noisy, so does that mean it has great cooling capabilities with loud noise as penalty?
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It's noisy because it is spinning at max speed, 4000 rpm, all the time. I need to check why the motherboard is not reducing the speed of the fan when the cpu is idle and cool. It should be spinning no more than 2500-3000rpm for it to be quiet.
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Yeah heard on what X4 stock cooler if its spinning on 2500rpm, the noise is less audible already. Then its good to go ~
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on the 1055T i am currently testing out using the Xigmatek Thor, plus Silverstone FM123 manually mounted on it.
I adjust the fan speed according to my liking, somewhere between 1800rpm when i am in the house and max when i am out working.
If you have a normal casing, then you will have problem like me with all this aftermarket CPU cooler. heatsink is too big in a small area.

on my 955BE i am using the Hyper N620, thinking of testing out Hyper H620 later on the 1055T or buying another new cooler


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if it is this cool i will like to see amd bulldozer do 8ghz on ln2
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anybody ever thinking to go for extreme?
i'm thiking to make a budget 12cores system tongue.gif
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anybody ever thinking to go for extreme?
i'm thiking to make a budget 12cores system tongue.gif
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i thinking to go with 1055 x 2 XD

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Apr 28 2010, 04:35 PM)
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i thinking to go with 1055 x 2 XD
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QUOTE(tuonn @ Apr 28 2010, 05:38 PM)
with what board????
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with what board????
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Opteron AM3 boards wink.gif
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yeah that is the answer...as my best of knowledge,i think there is no board for am3 socket that support 2 proc like evga cloassified... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(tuonn @ Apr 28 2010, 06:19 PM)
yeah that is the answer...as my best of knowledge,i think there is no board for am3 socket that support 2 proc like evga cloassified... thumbup.gif
BTW..looking forward with ur xtremesystem bro... thumbup.gif
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becoz intel proc is overprice. not AMD cheap  tongue.gif
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perhaps intel will reduce the price of their i5 and i7 860 but only by a little.
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but performance wise, the x6 is more or less the same with i7 860, while the price is the same in US, USD299. i guess majority will go for intel since it is much more established, x6 gaming performance is not on par with x4 or i7, dont know why. Hope AMD can catch up lar.. my next upgrade i am eyeing on AMD system.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Apr 29 2010, 01:13 AM)
but performance wise, the x6 is more or less the same with i7 860, while the price is the same in US, USD299. i guess majority will go for intel since it is much more established, x6 gaming performance is not on par with x4 or i7, dont know why. Hope AMD can catch up lar.. my next upgrade i am eyeing on AMD system.
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+1..from review i read..this amdx6 have advantages at application like CS4,adobe and so on...
but in real n gaming is not very impressive...still 1090T performance is par on i7 860 with almost same price...
but still amd have 6 core n game start to utilize 4 core now...maybe by the end of next year,game we utilize full six core... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tuonn @ Apr 29 2010, 01:48 AM)
+1..from review i read..this amdx6 have advantages at application like CS4,adobe and so on...
but in real n gaming is not very impressive...still 1090T performance is par on i7 860 with almost same price...
but still amd have 6 core n game start to utilize 4 core now...maybe by the end of next year,game we utilize full six core... tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tuonn @ Apr 29 2010, 01:48 AM)
+1..from review i read..this amdx6 have advantages at application like CS4,adobe and so on...
but in real n gaming is not very impressive...still 1090T performance is par on i7 860 with almost same price...
but still amd have 6 core n game start to utilize 4 core now...maybe by the end of next year,game we utilize full six core... tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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This is where most people have a slight misunderstanding. If you have a game that runs on 4 core and you only have 4 cores, therefore your game cannot run at 100% because you have left no core for your OS, your antivirus, I/O systems, firewall, bittorrent, etc etc. They will have to share the 4 cores with your game.

This is where the additional cores come in handy, for now and the future. We are not asking people to change from 4 cores to 6. If you are looking to build a new system, like I did, then no point going for 4 when 6 is about the same price.

This is the same issue when dual core CPUs first came out. People were screaming NO POINT having 2 cores when games can't use it. Well, if the game use one, the other one can service the OS. Later the same people are the ones asking for MORE than 2 cores.
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yup i start thinking we need quad right now.. though few years back 2cores is more than enough..
so for upcoming years >6 cores should be common..

unless ppl only typing² typing..
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Till now the Quaddies seem happy to compete with most of the applications..Still got plenty of times until it'll be fully utilized on these upcomin optimization whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Hiruka @ Apr 29 2010, 11:21 AM)
Till now the Quaddies seem happy to compete with most of the applications..Still got plenty of times until it'll be fully utilized on these upcomin optimization whistling.gif
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Unless those benchmark programmes are not fully optimised for 6 multi-core applications, then these P2 X6 might perform better with later version of benchmark programmes. Then 6 cores can be fully utilised, though I highly doubt the current benchmark programmes cannot utilise a processor with 6 threads when they can on a processor with 8 threads.

Programmes run on threads, not cores. Thus, above statements like not utilising all 6 cores are literally false as P2 X6 only have 6 threads.

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Apr 29 2010, 04:47 PM)
Unless those benchmark programmes are not fully optimised for 6 multi-core applications, then these P2 X6 might perform better with later version of benchmark programmes. Then 6 cores can be fully utilised, though I highly doubt the current benchmark programmes cannot utilise a processor with 6 threads when they can on a processor with 8 threads.

Programmes run on threads, not cores. Thus, above statements like not utilising all 6 cores are literally false as P2 X6 only have 6 threads.
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i still don''t get it

most bench are cpu test not really real world test???

see this

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Real world gaming.

so which is better or which should i reflect on
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That is a CPU test, let the processor render as fast as possible rather than full usage the GPU. wink.gif

QUOTE(Moongrave @ Apr 29 2010, 06:43 PM)
When you put everything to the maximum, then GPU limitation takes over. However depending on setup and graphics card used, you will also start to see either CPU limitations or platform limitations as well, example here AMD Phenom II X6 1090T And 890FX Platform Review: Hello, Leo - Benchmark Results: Crysis (the most telling indication is when using HD5970 and GTX480). Other similar results can be found here: Phenom II X6 1090T CPU Review: Call of Duty 4 (note that those are set to maximum quality) and here: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T BE & 1055T - Gaming Performance (using HD5870 CrossFireX setups) hmm.gif

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so which is better or which should i reflect on
Why not read the source review here: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Hands-On Preview? Its already mentioned about the GPU limitations. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 29 2010, 10:29 AM)
This is where most people have a slight misunderstanding. If you have a game that runs on 4 core and you only have 4 cores, therefore your game cannot run at 100% because you have left no core for your OS, your antivirus, I/O systems, firewall, bittorrent, etc etc. They will have to share the 4 cores with your game.

This is where the additional cores come in handy, for now and the future. We are not asking people to change from 4 cores to 6. If you are looking to build a new system, like I did, then no point going for 4 when 6 is about the same price.

This is the same issue when dual core CPUs first came out. People were screaming NO POINT having 2 cores when games can't use it. Well, if the game use one, the other one can service the OS. Later the same people are the ones asking for MORE than 2 cores.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 29 2010, 10:29 AM)
This is where most people have a slight misunderstanding. If you have a game that runs on 4 core and you only have 4 cores, therefore your game cannot run at 100% because you have left no core for your OS, your antivirus, I/O systems, firewall, bittorrent, etc etc. They will have to share the 4 cores with your game.

This is where the additional cores come in handy, for now and the future. We are not asking people to change from 4 cores to 6. If you are looking to build a new system, like I did, then no point going for 4 when 6 is about the same price.

This is the same issue when dual core CPUs first came out. People were screaming NO POINT having 2 cores when games can't use it. Well, if the game use one, the other one can service the OS. Later the same people are the ones asking for MORE than 2 cores.
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i dun think so
OS is the one that give resources to app , it doesnt give priority to background program
plus , antivirus , bt , msn etc is not a heavy program tat will occupied a core fully load
even games doesnt
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Apr 30 2010, 05:38 AM)
i dun think so
OS is the one that give resources to app , it doesnt give priority to background program
plus , antivirus , bt , msn etc is not a heavy program tat will occupied a core fully load
even games doesnt
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You do not need to fully load a core to slow it down. Anybody who used a single core CPU for servers 10 years ago can tell you that. Background process still have to run otherwise you can't run your game. I/O still gets top priority no matter what, OS still gets top priority in order to load your game or any application that runs in the foreground. BT will utilise I/O as it reads and writes to hdd and that puts a drain on a single core. If you have extra idle cores for the OS to assign a thread to it, then it would not interfere with your other applications.

Here is the deal, if it is a background process that can be slowed down, the OS would do it. If it cannot be slowed down, then it will drain the foreground process if you do not have sufficient CPU power to process.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 09:08 AM)
You do not need to fully load a core to slow it down. Anybody who used a single core CPU for servers 10 years ago can tell you that. Background process still have to run otherwise you can't run your game. I/O still gets top priority no matter what, OS still gets top priority in order to load your game or any application that runs in the foreground.
QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 09:08 AM)
Here is the deal, if it is a background process that can be slowed down, the OS would do it. If it cannot be slowed down, then it will drain the foreground process if you do not have sufficient CPU power to process.
That's not entirely true at all... Most background process runs on interrupts (and events triggered), meaning they do not run all the time. There's also operating system's pre-emptive scheduling to handle background task prioirty (e.g. allocating the amount of time slice to each process). I/O stuff also runs on interrupts (for example, the timer) while stuff like HDD read/write uses the PCI bus mastering (similar to Ultra DMA) which is transparent to the system. Even simple I/O such as audio playback uses that, also (Directsound) audio mixing involves some CPU usage (ie. nowadays CPUs are so fast that sound mixing can be done by software rather than hardware, and takes up very little resource). wink.gif

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 09:08 AM)
BT will utilise I/O as it reads and writes to hdd and that puts a drain on a single core. If you have extra idle cores for the OS to assign a thread to it, then it would not interfere with your other applications.
BT does not use a lot of resources, even on a single core. As for the HDD read/writes.. it is pretty much transparent (as mentioned above) and does not write to the HDD all the time (due to the operating system's write behind caching). icon_rolleyes.gif

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normal consumer won't even bother about how many cores the proc has, as long as it can run their basic applications.

If you are on the more technical side like me, doing things like running multiple virtual machines and running very heavy CPU and memory intensive applications and heavy programming projects are the reasons why i chose this proc at the first place. x2 can't even do half of what i need, x4 proc is just barely struggling, then the x6 is just ok. But for me i don't have the kaching to get the intel xeon or amd opteron, so i opt for this Thuban. I really wish there is a board for two thuban proc, but none

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If you are on the more technical side like me, doing things like running multiple virtual machines and running very heavy CPU and memory intensive applications and heavy programming projects are the reasons why i chose this proc at the first place. x2 can't even do half of what i need, x4 proc is just barely struggling, then the x6 is just ok.
Using the one on Linux? Not sure about that one, but Windows version of VMWare runs fine on my quad core as well as on my friend's Core i7 (running multiple VMs). Should be fine on the X4 as well.. hmm.gif

QUOTE(Avex @ Apr 30 2010, 09:45 AM)
But for me i don't have the kaching to get the intel xeon or amd opteron, so i opt for this Thuban. I really wish there is a board for two thuban proc, but none
For dual processors, there's the (ultra expensive) Mac Pro workstation. You can also look for dual socket servers (example here) sweat.gif I don't think Thuban supports dual processor configuration.. as that would be Istanbul territory (those Opteron series). icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Apr 30 2010, 09:29 AM)
That's not entirely true at all... Most background process runs on interrupts (and events triggered), meaning they do not run all the time. There's also operating system's pre-emptive scheduling to handle background task prioirty (e.g. allocating the amount of time slice to each process). I/O stuff also runs on interrupts (for example, the timer) while stuff like HDD read/write uses the PCI bus mastering (similar to Ultra DMA) which is transparent to the system. Even simple I/O such as audio playback uses that, also (Directsound) audio mixing involves some CPU usage (ie. nowadays CPUs are so fast that sound mixing can be done by software rather than hardware, and takes up very little resource).  wink.gif

BT does not use a lot of resources, even on a single core. As for the HDD read/writes.. it is pretty much transparent (as mentioned above) and does not write to the HDD all the time (due to the operating system's write behind caching). icon_rolleyes.gif

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Let me rephrase background task. Anything that is not running below Normal priority is not considered as background task. Just because it's not running in the foreground window, it does not make it a background task. Antivirus are not background, they are actually foreground task running hidden from view but that does not make them background task either. Since they all have the same priority, when they require a the CPU to allocate a time-slice to their process, they are going to get it.

That is why most people would report that any installation of an antivirus with active file scanning will always slow down the machine, unless you have sufficient CPUs to run it. I run Jackie Chan Internet Security 2010 and it slowed to a crawl on my dual core last time, exactly the same issue that most people complained about. Funny thing is that I don't have that problem anymore on my X6.
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 12:44 PM)
Let me rephrase background task. Anything that is not running below Normal priority is not considered as background task. Just because it's not running in the foreground window, it does not make it a background task. Antivirus are not background, they are actually foreground task running hidden from view but that does not make them background task either. Since they all have the same priority, when they require a the CPU to allocate a time-slice to their process, they are going to get it.
Again, not true at all... Anti-virus uses operating system hooks, thus whenever some programs starts running (e.g. starting an application), generates a (child) process, read/write to HDD (e.g. modify files) and/or does something unexpected (such as trying to invoke or modify a operating system function) then the anti-virus programs springs into action. Otherwise its relatively idle (not running most of the time). wink.gif

QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 12:44 PM)
That is why most people would report that any installation of an antivirus with active file scanning will always slow down the machine, unless you have sufficient CPUs to run it. I run Jackie Chan Internet Security 2010 and it slowed to a crawl on my dual core last time, exactly the same issue that most people complained about. Funny thing is that I don't have that problem anymore on my X6.
Active file scanning? That's HDD bottleneck... very little to do with the processor actually. Everyone will experience the same thing whenever the anti-virus starts a scheduled file scan (an annoyance which I usually turn off icon_idea.gif ), unless using SSD of course. Anyway, I've used lots of anti-malware stuff before including Kapersky (your Jackie Chan thingy), AVG, Avast, Norton Security Suite, etc.. and all of them more or less slows down most systems, including 8-core (dual processor) servers. Currently settled on Avira due to its small memory footprint and less resource hogging. tongue.gif

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Again, not true at all... Anti-virus uses operating system hooks, thus whenever some programs starts running (e.g. starting an application), generates a (child) process, read/write to HDD (e.g. modify files) and/or does something unexpected (such as trying to invoke or modify a operating system function) then the anti-virus programs springs into action. Otherwise its relatively idle (not running most of the time).  wink.gif

Active file scanning? That's HDD bottleneck... very little to do with the processor actually. Everyone will experience the same thing whenever the anti-virus starts a scheduled file scan (an annoyance which I usually turn off  icon_idea.gif ), unless using SSD of course. Anyway, I've used lots of anti-malware stuff before including Kapersky (your Jackie Chan thingy), AVG, Avast, Norton Security Suite, etc.. and all of them more or less slows down most systems, including 8-core (dual processor) servers. Currently settled on Avira due to its small memory footprint and less resource hogging. tongue.gif
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Correct but it is when you perform and operation that reads files and invokes scanning that slows down the system. When the antivirus is idle, so is the system and it also means I'm not using it. Any read write operations that involves most files are scanned by any active antivirus system and that usually happens when you use the machine. That is why game/apps loading time is always increased with anti-virus running

Yes, the antivirus slows down but the more the more core you can feed it, the faster it will run. Loading Vista on my dual core and X6 is about the same speed without the antivirus running. With the antivirus running, I hardly feel any difference on the X6 while the dual core takes a much longer time to load up. Furthermore, all 6 cores are being utilised with the OS distributing threads across it. Heck, even when I'm surfing the internet I have activity across all 6 cores.

I'm not talking about scheduled scans. I'm talking about the usual read/write file scanning and whatever heuristics thrown in to detect unknown virus. Those will always run, scanning the network and hdd, even when idle.

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I'm not talking about scheduled scans. I'm talking about the usual read/write file scanning and whatever heuristics thrown in to detect unknown virus. Those will always run, scanning the network and hdd, even when idle.
Those are "triggered" as I've mentioned above.. The anti-virus only runs whenever there's some activity in in the system (e.g. file read/write), otherwise it sits there waiting for an event. Remember the screenshot of the torrent thingy I've posted earlier? That's running with anti-virus (Avira) and firewall (Zone Alarm) together, yet it hardly taxes the processor at all (even though its a single core). wink.gif

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yes true , anti virus is not really resource hogging , most anti virus slow down cause by slow hdd read performance , current cpu is more than enuf to scan your pc
if not , im sure jackie chan having trouble running on atom netbook
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QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Apr 30 2010, 06:33 PM)
yes true , anti virus is not really resource hogging , most anti virus slow down cause by slow hdd read performance , current cpu is more than enuf to scan your pc
if not , im sure jackie chan having trouble running on atom netbook
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2 types of Jackie Chan antivirus.. one is just an antivirus and the other is the internet security. Internet security is more than just an antivirus and it integrates into your browser and network drivers to provide firewall protection too. So it is always scanning when you are just even clicking on internet pages or having any sort of network access.

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As far as I know, ever since dual-cores are released, anti-virus scanning never proved taxing to the processors anymore, just the reading speed bottleneck by the harddisk.
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There is still the noticeable pause or stutter when loading the Program Files menus.
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AMD phenom 2 X6 soon will release 1075T.. 3.0Gz... shud be lower than price than 1090T... but still afford to buy stuff...

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AMD phenom 2 X6 soon will release 1075T.. 3.0Gz... shud be lower than price than 1090T... but still afford to buy stuff...

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1289/1/  << sos kicap..
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thumbup.gif AMD Phenom II x6 1090T reviews thumbup.gif I LOVE this processor because it run super cool and easy to reach up to 4ghz !!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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thumbup.gif AMD Phenom II x6 1090T reviews  thumbup.gif I LOVE this processor because it run super cool and easy to reach up to 4ghz !!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Well, according to the benchmark and overlock, it showed lower performance compared to the Core i5 and Core i7. Also requires high voltage to overclock. Take note that the benchmark was made oversea, the temperature they obtained will absolutely not be the temperature you will get locally. Their ambient temperature is cooler, depending on where they stay.
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actually my friend manage to go to 4Ghz with a Noctua NH-D14 and with a Coolermaster HAF 922
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thumbup.gif AMD Phenom II x6 1090T reviews  thumbup.gif I LOVE this processor because it run super cool and easy to reach up to 4ghz !!!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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actually my friend manage to go to 4Ghz with a Noctua NH-D14 and with a Coolermaster HAF 922
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Not the point now is it?

For some reason, I still see people saying progs/games not fulling utilising this 6C/6T processors when a 4C/8T or 6C/12T processor can.

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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Apr 30 2010, 12:44 PM)
Let me rephrase background task. Anything that is not running below Normal priority is not considered as background task. Just because it's not running in the foreground window, it does not make it a background task. Antivirus are not background, they are actually foreground task running hidden from view but that does not make them background task either. Since they all have the same priority, when they require a the CPU to allocate a time-slice to their process, they are going to get it.

That is why most people would report that any installation of an antivirus with active file scanning will always slow down the machine, unless you have sufficient CPUs to run it. I run Jackie Chan Internet Security 2010 and it slowed to a crawl on my dual core last time, exactly the same issue that most people complained about. Funny thing is that I don't have that problem anymore on my X6.
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jackie chan antivirus is not bad....but it take alot of CPU power to run it...thats why i decided to go for Avira
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this thread is dead.not so hot just like X6 was introduce few weeks ago. Izzit becoz it not live up to what it was expected? I personally slightly regret about its performance. Im AMD fanboy and i hope it can compete i7 next round.
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ May 7 2010, 10:16 AM)
this thread is dead.not so hot just like X6 was introduce few weeks ago. Izzit becoz it not live up to what it was expected? I personally slightly regret about its performance. Im AMD fanboy and i hope it can compete i7 next round.
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is like what i said few months back. It just a phenom ii x4 with an added 2 cores, unless more games (crysis2 esp biggrin.gif) and others mainstream apps can take advantage of it, i dun see any good reason 2 get it.
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juz wait for the bulldozer/llano, then see if it can compete with nehalem in terms of performance. btw if im not mistaken the bulldozer/llano proc will still be in am3 socket right, according to their roadmap, correct me if im wrong..
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hmmm if still the same socket, i hope their memory performance will be better
coz the core architecture is good on memory
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QUOTE(techmostwanted @ May 7 2010, 10:25 AM)
is like what i said few months back. It just a phenom ii x4 with an added 2 cores, unless more games (crysis2 esp biggrin.gif) and others mainstream apps can take advantage of it, i dun see any good reason 2 get it.
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Another misleading statement. If games like Crysis 2 couldn't take advantage of AMD P2 X6 which is of 6C/6T then it definitely wouldn't perform as well with Intel Ci7 4C/8T.
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What i can see here is X6 can compete i7 with its performance per price..
if u compare X6 (rm6XX) and the i7 980X (RM35xx)..
The price of i8 is almost 6 times higher than X6.
How about the performance?
i7 only 3-4 time better than X6..
0r maybe less...
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QUOTE(selferino @ May 8 2010, 08:13 PM)
juz wait for the bulldozer/llano, then see if it can compete with nehalem in terms of performance. btw if im not mistaken the bulldozer/llano proc will still be in am3 socket right, according to their roadmap, correct me if im wrong..
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Yes it is compatible with AM3.

Anyway,AMD Phenom II X6 were never meant to compete i7.At least,with Phenom II X6,old user can upgrade to X6 cheaply.
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are this x6 really so lousy?? still cant par i7 920??

thinking wan migrate to AMD but now hmm.gif
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It can on par with 8 series but not on 9 series.
I repeat,this is for budget user.
What proc u using now?
If from intel > amd i suggest no becos its waste - -

Its good for old AM2+ user or newer user want get new pc with cheaper price.
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i from intel.. using QX processor....

i dy quit AMD for long time ago since Athlon pwn Prescott that time....

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 9 2010, 12:52 AM)
i from intel..  using QX processor....

i dy quit AMD for long time ago since Athlon pwn Prescott that time....
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Which QX number do u use?
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But hey guys, judging from the performance, it doesn't seem so bad like some people claimed. For the price u pay, multithreaded performance is still there. RM600+ for a hexacore, as compare to any intel offering in similar price class, its quite clear that price/performance ratio, AMD still holds it. As for the higher end AMD hexacore @ 3.2ghz vs core i7 930/920, it does the job fairly well beating i7 in some test too. Alot stronger competition now as compare to only the X4 965... That's jz my opinion, its not that bad.... =)

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amd six core aint bad.....of course major benchmark result show i7 win....but i bet 100% u din look at da i7 price tag.
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ May 9 2010, 08:13 AM)
Which QX number do u use?
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using QX6800... now looking for sell n upgrade to thuban..

but as they claimed that x6 1055T performance still fall behind intel i7... r this really??
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 9 2010, 09:24 PM)
using QX6800... now looking for sell n upgrade to thuban..

but as they claimed that x6 1055T performance still fall behind intel i7... r this really??
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 9 2010, 09:24 PM)
using QX6800... now looking for sell n upgrade to thuban..

but as they claimed that x6 1055T performance still fall behind intel i7... r this really??
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multi threaded performance amd win some tests
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AMD are impressive because they are selling a 6 core cpu at quad core price but i don't think i'll need 6 physical core for my desktop at this moment smile.gif

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guess they need something like HyperThreading to boost some benchmarks...hopefully the 960T can be unlocked to a hexacore...
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ May 9 2010, 11:57 AM)
amd six core aint bad.....of course major benchmark result show i7 win....but i bet 100% u din look at da i7 price tag.
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but prices are known to fall after launch so the actual pricing competitor is still unknown.
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X6 still winning at multi tasking, rendering, converting, encoding..
But in gaming.. X6 is far away from i7.
And i5 750 performance is also a little bit hgiher than X6.

Btw if gaming isnt ur priority, then go for X6..
It has con and pro...
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QUOTE(Cubex01 @ May 11 2010, 10:27 AM)
X6 still winning at multi tasking, rendering, converting, encoding..
But in gaming.. X6 is far away from i7.
And i5 750 performance is also a little bit hgiher than X6.

Btw if gaming isnt ur priority, then go for X6..
It has con and pro...
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Multi-tasking and rendering?
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if less 5fps which already surpass 50fps by average.. won't give much different..

most important thing is no stuttering or instant fps dropping while gaming..
there's no point if can hit max fps but lagging in the split second..

like from 80fps to 35fps rather than 60fps to 40fps..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 11 2010, 11:19 AM)
if less 5fps which already surpass 50fps by average.. won't give much different..

most important thing is no stuttering or instant fps dropping while gaming..
there's no point if can hit max fps but lagging in the split second..

like from 80fps to 35fps rather than 60fps to 40fps..
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So this is meant for HD5870 or GTX470?
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in game we need balance.. faster cpu to drive gpu..
no point if having the world's most faster cpu if just afford to buy an average gpu..

right now.. 3.5ghz multicore just enough.. and wait for latest game that can use them up.. like BF2..
http://www.guru3d.com/article/phenom-ii-x6...1090t-review/18

it's not multicore to be blamed.. just that why game not utilize them.. move on..

reviewers also still use old games.. lol..
i found alot of site bias on their thought..

but kudos to this to show the minimum fps..
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mai...x_core_review/6
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Cannot utilise? Please read my previous post. This is getting ridiculous.
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Cannot utilise? Please read my previous post. This is getting ridiculous.
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Read biased review, you mean?
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Read biased review, you mean?
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why u being fanatic? i'm not taking any sides..
just telling the fact.. that some of us missed the glance..

afterall ur previous 1 liner comment not giving anything either..
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 11 2010, 12:41 PM)
why u being fanatic? i'm not taking any sides..
just telling the fact.. that some of us missed the glance..

afterall ur previous 1 liner comment not giving anything either..
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Reviews being biased was what you said, not me.
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Reviews being biased was what you said, not me.
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i said because it's the fact.. not many showing the minimum fps in regards to show the gaming experiences..

oh nevermind then..
this kinda behaviour is like, can't taking the heat of i7 being menopause in the near future after investing on plastic surgery..

as being an extra ordinary gentleman - i let u win. smile.gif
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 11 2010, 01:03 PM)
i said because it's the fact.. not many showing the minimum fps in regards to show the gaming experiences..

oh nevermind then..
this kinda behaviour is like, can't taking the heat of i7 being menopause in the near future after investing on plastic surgery..

as being an extra ordinary gentleman - i let u win. smile.gif
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And by mentioning your post makes me a fanatic? It is too much, even for a extraordinary gentleman.
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QUOTE(area61 @ May 10 2010, 11:51 PM)
guess they need something like HyperThreading to boost some benchmarks...hopefully the 960T can be unlocked to a hexacore...
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depend on batches . all of this is a bet.
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 11 2010, 01:03 PM)
i said because it's the fact.. not many showing the minimum fps in regards to show the gaming experiences..

oh nevermind then..
this kinda behaviour is like, can't taking the heat of i7 being menopause in the near future after investing on plastic surgery..

as being an extra ordinary gentleman - i let u win. smile.gif
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i think your point it true. min fps is also important to justify the smoothness of games.
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omg ... now baru finally i know got a x4 core can unlock to x6 @@ !!!!! interest in it ~ wat about its price tag now and is there any shop in lowyat selling this unit ? @@ !!!! so interest ~ omg OO
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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ May 11 2010, 05:45 PM)
i think your point it true. min fps is also important to justify the smoothness of games.
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yes indeed.. but it's hard to search the review providing with that info..
thus ppl get blinded.. even worst can't even hear..

QUOTE(yong_lin94 @ May 11 2010, 07:39 PM)
omg ... now baru finally i know got a x4 core can unlock to x6 @@ !!!!! interest in it ~ wat about its price tag now and is there any shop in lowyat selling this unit ? @@ !!!! so interest ~ omg OO
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and u must missed that amd announced not to release X4 based on thuban core.. which have a chance to unlock extra cores..

so no chance until further notice..
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8tvt: really? i missed that news. last time i read that it will be launch on sept if i not mstaken!
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QUOTE(adie82 @ May 11 2010, 09:24 PM)
8tvt: really? i missed that news. last time i read that it will be launch on sept if i not mstaken!
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u may check this for further info..

http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/18890

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In fact, AMD has confirmed to TR that it will not be introducing a Thuban-based quad-core part today or in the near future. The purported Phenom II X4 960T chips floating around out there are real, but they are engineering samples not slated to materialize as real products any time soon. The firm tells us a Phenom II X4 product with Turbo Core technology may not ever happen, since the bulk of its efforts are now focused on next-generation products. If such a beast does ship eventually, it may be an OEM-only part intended for system builders, not for wider distribution.


just pray² to get one.. laugh.gif

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So much of discussion on the AMD hexacores. Anyone actually own one now to give some personal statement?
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n fact, AMD has confirmed to TR that it will not be introducing a Thuban-based quad-core part today or in the near future. The purported Phenom II X4 960T chips floating around out there are real, but they are engineering samples not slated to materialize as real products any time soon. The firm tells us a Phenom II X4 product with Turbo Core technology may not ever happen, since the bulk of its efforts are now focused on next-generation products. If such a beast does ship eventually, it may be an OEM-only part intended for system builders, not for wider distribution.

Wrong statement.

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O.o

Wrong statement.

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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 11 2010, 11:12 PM)
why u say it's wrong? they got retail cpu?
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the 960T is the processor thats based on the Thuban(X6)...hence the quad 960t can become a hexa..pricing and
availability is still a question..
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the 960T is the processor thats based on the Thuban(X6)...hence the quad 960t can become a hexa..pricing and
availability is still a question..
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lol that's not making it a wrong statement.. it could be one of the engineering sample..
it's not becoz the proc doesn't exist.. just that the recent news says amd not releasing it for the mass market..

so how u want to unlock if not able to get one? get it?
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QUOTE(8tvt @ May 12 2010, 12:28 AM)
lol that's not making it a wrong statement.. it could be one of the engineering sample..
it's not becoz the proc doesn't exist.. just that the recent news says amd not releasing it for the mass market..

so how u want to unlock if not able to get one? get it?
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n fact, AMD has confirmed to TR that it will not be introducing a Thuban-based quad-core part today or in the near future. The purported Phenom II X4 960T chips floating around out there are real, but they are engineering samples not slated to materialize as real products any time soon. The firm tells us a Phenom II X4 product with Turbo Core technology may not ever happen, since the bulk of its efforts are now focused on next-generation products. If such a beast does ship eventually, it may be an OEM-only part intended for system builders, not for wider distribution.

That's a strong statement. It suggests AMD is expecting a rather high-yield rate in order to justify not selling cut down procs. I suppose that might be possible since its based on a mature engineering process.
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AMD Cancels Phenom II X4 960T Quad-Core Processors Based on Thuban Die
In what could come as a bad news to enthusiasts looking forward to the AMD Phenom II X4 960T "Zosma" quad-core processor, AMD has scrapped plans to release it, at least to the retail market. The chip could still be available to OEM vendors designing their desktop products around it. In a circular to the press, an AMD representative said "I've been asked the question about whether there will be a Phenom II X4 960T "Thuban" quad-core by enough individuals, that I think it is a good idea to proactively share the answer to everyone. While there are indeed engineering CPU samples floating around of a 4-core Thuban 960T, I do not expect that processor will be released for general availability. Perhaps it may make its way to OEMs by special request, but that remains to be seen."

Phenom II X4 960T was a certain release from AMD until now. Various motherboard vendors released beta BIOS that could support the chip, and some enthusiasts with access to engineering samples were even successful in unlocking its disabled cores. The prospect of unlocking disabled cores to yield a six-core processor at the price of a typical quad-core processor is what garnered interest among some sections of the enthusiasts. For AMD, the adverse effect Zosma could have on the sales of more expensive Phenom II X6 seems to have outweighed propagating its new Turbo Core technology at more mainstream prices.

http://www.techpowerup.com/122130/AMD_Canc...Thuban_Die.html
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Is Gigabyte is the only provider for USB 3.0 AMD mobo?
GA-870-UD3

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/latest/gigabyte-i...d-platform.html

Do you think when USB3.0 & Sata 6GBps will become common. cant wait to upgrade to new rig
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I am looking for the new AMD Phenom II AM3 X6 1055T 95W. I saw some 125W around, but wondering when are they going to release the 95W part smile.gif.
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QUOTE(megat89 @ May 13 2010, 09:21 AM)
AMD Cancels Phenom II X4 960T Quad-Core Processors Based on Thuban Die
In what could come as a bad news to enthusiasts looking forward to the AMD Phenom II X4 960T "Zosma" quad-core processor, AMD has scrapped plans to release it, at least to the retail market. The chip could still be available to OEM vendors designing their desktop products around it. In a circular to the press, an AMD representative said "I've been asked the question about whether there will be a Phenom II X4 960T "Thuban" quad-core by enough individuals, that I think it is a good idea to proactively share the answer to everyone. While there are indeed engineering CPU samples floating around of a 4-core Thuban 960T, I do not expect that processor will be released for general availability. Perhaps it may make its way to OEMs by special request, but that remains to be seen."

Phenom II X4 960T was a certain release from AMD until now. Various motherboard vendors released beta BIOS that could support the chip, and some enthusiasts with access to engineering samples were even successful in unlocking its disabled cores. The prospect of unlocking disabled cores to yield a six-core processor at the price of a typical quad-core processor is what garnered interest among some sections of the enthusiasts. For AMD, the adverse effect Zosma could have on the sales of more expensive Phenom II X6 seems to have outweighed propagating its new Turbo Core technology at more mainstream prices.

http://www.techpowerup.com/122130/AMD_Canc...Thuban_Die.html
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no point amd release thier quad based on thuban since those thuban are based on deneb + 2core
they r same ,summore amd affairs of unlocking might affect thier hexa sales
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QUOTE(danielyeap @ May 13 2010, 12:36 PM)
I am looking for the new AMD Phenom II AM3 X6 1055T 95W. I saw some 125W around, but wondering when are they going to release the 95W part smile.gif.
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I think there is no 1055T for 95W at least near future. actually it consider low power considering it has 6 real core
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I think there is no 1055T for 95W at least near future. actually it consider low power considering it has 6 real core
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amd thuban is just phenom x4 965 with 2 cores

if you want to get amd as a new user wait for amd bulldozer
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ May 13 2010, 08:19 PM)
amd thuban is just phenom x4 965 with 2 cores

if you want to get amd as a new user wait for amd bulldozer
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QUOTE(Moongrave @ May 13 2010, 08:19 PM)
amd thuban is just phenom x4 965 with 2 cores

if you want to get amd as a new user wait for amd bulldozer
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that mean.. X6 is not for u coz donno how to make it useful..
same goes to the bulldozer later..
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if im not mistaken, the next bulldozer wil only work on 8 series mobo, so no-no 4 7 series mobo even they hav am3 socket there, so rather thn upgrading to thuban i suggest get an 8 series mobo smile.gif
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so, which one is better 4 gaming?
Phenom II X4 965BE 3.4GHz Vs X6 1055T 2.8GHz Vs Core i5 750 2.66GHz?
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post May 14 2010, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(BuCk_Real @ May 14 2010, 09:19 AM)
so, which one is better 4 gaming?
Phenom II X4 965BE 3.4GHz Vs X6 1055T 2.8GHz Vs Core i5 750 2.66GHz?
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those what u listed are more than enough for average gaming..
if performance limited by the gpu.. all would be the same..

it's not like last time, where we need to oc for extra performance..

the later proc has turbo core which can speed up if needed..
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post May 15 2010, 09:11 PM

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The turbo core can increase how many percent?
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post May 15 2010, 09:47 PM

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500-600mhz..
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post May 16 2010, 09:18 PM

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for those using 890fx chipset... what is your temp on the NB

mine hovering abt 55 at idle and i saw in a review website, in bios screenshot the NB is 80+!!!!

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post May 16 2010, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ May 16 2010, 09:18 PM)
for those using 890fx chipset... what is your temp on the NB

mine hovering abt 55 at idle and i saw in a review website, in bios screenshot the NB is 80+!!!!
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how did u check tat, izzit that the temp of the motherboard? like in everest my motherbord temp is usually
45 C, so tats my northbridge temp izzit? how bout the SB temp? my mobo is msi 770-c45 btw.
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QUOTE(selferino @ May 16 2010, 09:56 PM)
how did u check tat, izzit that the temp of the motherboard? like in everest my motherbord temp is usually
45 C, so tats my northbridge temp izzit? how bout the SB temp? my mobo is msi 770-c45 btw.
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i check using bios and also everest...

motherboard temp is not NB temp.. IIRC.. it would be called system temp in this case below

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post May 19 2010, 11:59 AM

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side track, anyone selling off their phenom IIx4 (945,955)??
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QUOTE(TiF @ May 19 2010, 11:59 AM)
side track, anyone selling off their phenom IIx4 (945,955)??
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dun mind trading it wif u main rig tongue.gif
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QUOTE(selferino @ May 20 2010, 12:25 AM)
dun mind trading it wif u main rig tongue.gif
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i just wan to upgrade my 2nd rig.. tongue.gif
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post Feb 14 2011, 12:00 AM

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just bought phenom x6 1055.
The original fan is noisy(processer fan).....any idea which fan can better & how much is it
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QUOTE(aviecena2020 @ Feb 14 2011, 12:00 AM)
just bought phenom x6 1055.
The original fan is noisy(processer fan).....any idea which fan can better & how much is it
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want change the fan alone?
or change cpu heatsink + fan? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(aviecena2020 @ Feb 14 2011, 12:00 AM)
just bought phenom x6 1055.
The original fan is noisy(processer fan).....any idea which fan can better & how much is it
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tx-3 for around rm50 o cm 212+ around rm80+.
o u wan around rm200?
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:33 PM

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^ if not doing much overclocking, go with the cheap & good TX3
or top up abit for 212+
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post Feb 16 2011, 09:44 PM

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so guyz..
at this moment,i'm not thinking to overclocl..just use for internet surfing
tx3 or 212+ sure no noise ka..
stock fan is what type....i also do no....hehe
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post Feb 16 2011, 10:09 PM

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cooler master hyper 212+ with 120mm fan, should be more silent. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 1 2011, 08:26 PM

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Hmm, I using cooler master v6, quite noisy when it under load thou, maybe you can try h50 for it?

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hw abt phenom II x4 975BE...hw much is tat???.. i m reli interested
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post Apr 6 2011, 11:18 AM

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post May 22 2011, 07:16 PM

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Sorry noob question. Is the X6 is supporting for 790GX-G65 ??

X6 issit AM3?
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 22 2011, 07:16 PM)
Sorry noob question. Is the X6 is supporting for 790GX-G65 ??

X6 issit AM3?
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A simple Google search would have yielded your desired results.

Anyway, yes, the AMD Phenom II X6 line of processors are AM3 based.
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Ok then support. Thanks alot. I feel my Phenom X4 965 slow. Maybe I didn't OC. LOL Comparing AMD and Intel I think intel faster in multi tasking alot stuff

Oh yeah, 1 question does CPU affect the running of a game speed or its HDD and graphic card?
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 22 2011, 08:20 PM)
Ok then support. Thanks alot. I feel my Phenom X4 965 slow. Maybe I didn't OC. LOL Comparing AMD and Intel I think intel faster in multi tasking alot stuff
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feel slow in what program?
folding@home? unsure.gif

QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 25 2011, 02:21 PM)
Oh yeah, 1 question does CPU affect the running of a game speed or its HDD and graphic card?
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hehe, yes. biggrin.gif
cpu does affect gaming performance.
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 25 2011, 01:21 PM)
Oh yeah, 1 question does CPU affect the running of a game speed or its HDD and graphic card?
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If you are using a pentium 4 then yes, it does affect but nowdays games are more reliant on graphic cards biggrin.gif wink.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 25 2011, 10:50 PM)
hehe, yes. biggrin.gif
cpu does affect gaming performance.
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No wonderr >_> yohh always laggy when I play CoD4. Old game somemore so laggy
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 22 2011, 08:20 PM)
Ok then support. Thanks alot. I feel my Phenom X4 965 slow. Maybe I didn't OC. LOL Comparing AMD and Intel I think intel faster in multi tasking alot stuff
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in your case....there are alot of factor could cause such slow down...such as OS,memory,graphic card and HDD.

you cant just blame on proc because its AMD!

QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 25 2011, 02:21 PM)
Oh yeah, 1 question does CPU affect the running of a game speed or its HDD and graphic card?
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it depend on the game....some game are CPU resource hunger...some are GPU resource hunger

different game different requirement

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ May 26 2011, 08:25 AM)
in your case....there are alot of factor could cause such slow down...such as OS,memory,graphic card and HDD.

you cant just blame on proc because its AMD!
it depend on the game....some game are CPU resource hunger...some are GPU resource hunger

different game different requirement
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AHHH, Right now insufficient of RAM man. Shouldn't bought x32 version of win7. Instead of 4GB got only 3.3 .. Right now every time open a few stuff Free space : 600-800mb left.
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 27 2011, 06:21 PM)
AHHH, Right now insufficient of RAM man. Shouldn't bought x32 version of win7. Instead of 4GB got only 3.3 .. Right now every time open a few stuff Free space : 600-800mb left.
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wow, what are those program you opened? unsure.gif
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Normal stuff for young kids, flying spaghetti monster,Steam,Firefox 2 windows 1 windows = Lowyat 1 windows = Social. MSN, Xfire,Skype, GG messenger. Then left like 700mb >_> not even photoshop yet. http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk35/Cl.../lollololll.jpg

Not doing Folding@Home for quite long deee
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 28 2011, 10:04 AM)
Normal stuff for young kids, flying spaghetti monster,Steam,Firefox 2 windows 1 windows = Lowyat 1 windows = Social. MSN, Xfire,Skype, GG messenger. Then left like 700mb >_> not even photoshop yet. http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk35/Cl.../lollololll.jpg
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probably there are still many process run in background. unsure.gif
not doing folding@home?

QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 29 2011, 08:19 AM)
Not doing Folding@Home for quite long deee
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i see. your cpu perform not bad for folding@home. brows.gif
come back folding if you wish. biggrin.gif
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post May 29 2011, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 25 2011, 02:21 PM)
Oh yeah, 1 question does CPU affect the running of a game speed or its HDD and graphic card?
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depends. some games like GTA 4 hungers for 4 cores. so even if u have good GC but wilt 2 cores u'll still face lag.
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 29 2011, 08:11 PM)
i see. your cpu perform not bad for folding@home. brows.gif
come back folding if you wish. biggrin.gif
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hehehe tempting man. Don't make me addict back to Folding@Home. Last time stop because I wanna game >:P
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 30 2011, 09:12 AM)
hehehe tempting man. Don't make me addict back to Folding@Home. Last time stop because I wanna game >:P
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hehe, our team need more fire power.
with your cpu, probably can do 5-7k ppd, depends on project. brows.gif
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QUOTE(saturn85 @ May 30 2011, 07:58 PM)
hehe, our team need more fire power.
with your cpu, probably can do 5-7k ppd, depends on project. brows.gif
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Can I do it at night for you? I won't be doing Folding in the morning lehh D:

Your team is 2999 right? folding for you already tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 30 2011, 08:05 PM)
Can I do it at night for you? I won't be doing Folding in the morning lehh D:
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not for me bro. notworthy.gif
for the team, use your folding id. nod.gif
fold at any time as you wish, no problem. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ClericKilla @ May 30 2011, 09:01 PM)
Your team is 2999 right? folding for you already tongue.gif
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hmm, yes, team 2999 - folding@malaysia.
thanks, but i think it is not the efficiency way bro. notworthy.gif

because it is recommended to use smp client for your cpu for folding.
and in order for smp client work unit to get bonus point.
you need your own passkey.
thats why i suggest to use your own folding ID + your own passkey. nod.gif

AMD's Phenom II X6 to EOL by Q1 2012 unsure.gif

 

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