saw the 46 inch X today but heavily priced at 3699
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Jun 1 2010, 11:37 PM
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saw the 46 inch X today but heavily priced at 3699
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Jun 2 2010, 03:04 AM
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Anyone know where to get monitor calibration service in PJ/KL area?
How much it cost? Different price between plasma, LCD & PC monitor? Thanks. |
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Jun 2 2010, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(Jern Tan @ Jun 2 2010, 03:04 AM) Anyone know where to get monitor calibration service in PJ/KL area? Pls PM me with your source details and we can discuss there.How much it cost? Different price between plasma, LCD & PC monitor? Thanks. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jun 2 2010, 10:28 AM |
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Jun 2 2010, 10:27 AM
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The 1st professional review of the EU V series is out. Black levels essentially the same as the VT series. So the black levels are slightly better than the 8G Kuro and not as good as the 9G Kuro. All this will only matter in a dim environment. The greyscale and gamma do not track as well as the 9G but it shd not be noticeable to the eye. Colour reproduction, better or equal to the Kuros. The lack of dithering shows up with banding on high gradiation shots. Some flickering on the V series noticed. So in essence, a good display. However, at the moment, it is not known where the black levels will settle at since Panasonic has announced that there will be gradual increments in those.
The bad news is it is pretty clear that the V series in EU will not be the same as the V series in Asia. The key giveaway of this is if u take a look at the global panasonic viera site, the V series in Asia will not have the Infinite Black Pro panel. Thus the black levels will not be equal to the 8G Kuros (but pretty close) but will be the best Panny set behind the VT. Our V series as some people is predicted similar to the G series in Europe. What this means is the ambient light rejection will not be as good as the VT. Actually, looking at the pricing this makes a lot of sense. Panasonic saved the best for the VT series in Asia. Av Forum Panasonic 50V20 Review |
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Jun 2 2010, 11:06 AM
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i suspect its the European G series minus the THX mode and similar to the Aussie model which is without the THX mode as well . maybe this model is meant for the asia pacific region outside of Japan .
the real set back is the preclusion of Infinite Black Pro panel . i was at HN yesterday inspecting this model and comparing side by side with last year Z series . the colors are more vibrant as this model comes with much higher contrast . in dark scene with signal input , the black level of the Z just about a notch better than this V but surprisingly whenever the scene changes , the panel becomes grayish or purplish rather than black as AD said in his earlier post . but i'm not sure whether the bright environment makes any difference to it . but at the price offered by panny here , we should not complain too much as i saw the suggested price at the avf review page at 1,600 british pounds . btw, HN RRP at RM 6,499 with standard 2 year warranty This post has been edited by sunnyK: Jun 2 2010, 11:13 AM |
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Jun 2 2010, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 2 2010, 10:27 AM) The 1st professional review of the EU V series is out. Black levels essentially the same as the VT series. So the black levels are slightly better than the 8G Kuro and not as good as the 9G Kuro. All this will only matter in a dim environment. The greyscale and gamma do not track as well as the 9G but it shd not be noticeable to the eye. Colour reproduction, better or equal to the Kuros. The lack of dithering shows up with banding on high gradiation shots. Some flickering on the V series noticed. So in essence, a good display. However, at the moment, it is not known where the black levels will settle at since Panasonic has announced that there will be gradual increments in those. As usual, we get products meant for the third world. Panasonic should have the decency to label it differently for the Asian region in order people would not be misled and not assume it is the global VThe bad news is it is pretty clear that the V series in EU will not be the same as the V series in Asia. The key giveaway of this is if u take a look at the global panasonic viera site, the V series in Asia will not have the Infinite Black Pro panel. Thus the black levels will not be equal to the 8G Kuros (but pretty close) but will be the best Panny set behind the VT. Our V series as some people is predicted similar to the G series in Europe. What this means is the ambient light rejection will not be as good as the VT. Actually, looking at the pricing this makes a lot of sense. Panasonic saved the best for the VT series in Asia. Av Forum Panasonic 50V20 Review As there are no local home threatre magazines, obviously, people would be buying the Mat Salleh home theatre magazines and reading the reviews. Then, people would be misled thinking the V here is the same V as globally. This is unethical. This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Jun 2 2010, 02:41 PM |
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Jun 2 2010, 02:52 PM
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Our V50 no THX too
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Jun 2 2010, 03:15 PM
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after read the avforums review on the V20, thought it is the Kuro alternative, but sad to know the V20 selling here in M'sia is not the same as the reviewed unit.
Too bad |
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Jun 2 2010, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jun 2 2010, 12:27 PM) ....The key giveaway of this is if u take a look at the global panasonic viera site, the V series in Asia will not have the Infinite Black Pro panel. Thus the black levels will not be equal to the 8G Kuros (but pretty close) but will be the best Panny set behind the VT...... I'm not sure about other features, because i have yet to compare the specs on AV Forums review and the one on Asia site. But are you sure about the Infinite Black thinggy ? because here on Panasonic Asia sites it stated about that infinite black thing and also on my box if i remember... Av Forum Panasonic 50V20 Review V-Series Plasma TV Asia This post has been edited by ameenskywalker: Jun 2 2010, 03:52 PM |
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Jun 2 2010, 03:53 PM
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aiyah cincai lah , as the price offered here is for the non THX mode and non PRO also . everything in business as in life , will balance out eventually
TBM have the 50'' V available anytime from now . think of getting this beauty soon aiyah , check both continents specs . why asia specs lighter by 1 kg for 50'' . like that also can arr This post has been edited by sunnyK: Jun 2 2010, 03:56 PM |
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Jun 2 2010, 03:57 PM
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Yeah the different is only the THX mode, PRO mode for isfccc calibration is there on V20 series confirmed... so with this kind of price, we're not so much screwed as most had believed...
Added on June 2, 2010, 3:58 pm QUOTE(sunnyK @ Jun 2 2010, 05:53 PM) minus THX logo !! This post has been edited by ameenskywalker: Jun 2 2010, 03:58 PM |
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Jun 2 2010, 04:01 PM
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this model already without the infinite black PRO filter ,and luckily have the PRO mode for isfccc btw, how's your new toy |
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Jun 2 2010, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(ameenskywalker @ Jun 2 2010, 03:46 PM) I'm not sure about other features, because i have yet to compare the specs on AV Forums review and the one on Asia site. But are you sure about the Infinite Black thinggy ? because here on Panasonic Asia sites it stated about that infinite black thing and also on my box if i remember... ameen,V-Series Plasma TV Asia The site that u mention is where the data is from. The EU V series uses the Infinite Black Pro panel. The Asian V series uses the Infinite Black Panel. They are different. The EU G series uses the Infinite Black Panel but has THX. The G series has the Pro settings. |
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Jun 2 2010, 04:09 PM
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Jun 2 2010, 04:14 PM
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keep a steady pace . don't push this baby too fast or otherwise you may see black moon rising sooner , rather than later
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Jun 2 2010, 04:47 PM
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somebody go and buy v50 fast and let us know
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Jun 2 2010, 04:56 PM
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An eye opener for me that a certain model (say V) is NOT the same globally. Different specs for different regions (not just minor differences !). From electricity supply (110 vs 240 volts), I can understand but this double standard (maybe triple standard) is giving me a bad impression of Panasonic. I assume multinational companies do the same thing, right ?
I should now read international reviews with a bucket of salt as the model reviewed may not be the same as what I intend to buy in M'sia. Thanks to all for highlighting this scary truth. Maybe I should write to Panasonic about this and ask the MD to join this forum ! Ha. |
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Jun 2 2010, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 2 2010, 04:56 PM) An eye opener for me that a certain model (say V) is NOT the same globally. Different specs for different regions (not just minor differences !). From electricity supply (110 vs 240 volts), I can understand but this double standard (maybe triple standard) is giving me a bad impression of Panasonic. I assume multinational companies do the same thing, right ? Malaysia has been a dumping ground for inferior products for a long time. Go to a prominent UK retailer here in Malaysia and go to the food section. Quite a number of food items are near expiry date, infact nearly all. I should now read international reviews with a bucket of salt as the model reviewed may not be the same as what I intend to buy in M'sia. Thanks to all for highlighting this scary truth. Maybe I should write to Panasonic about this and ask the MD to join this forum ! Ha. In the UK, there is no way they can sell food items near the expiry date. Infact, it has to be more than a year away. So, they send it to third world countries like ours where there are no consumer laws. Some of their food items like jams etc are expiring like 1 or 2 months away and others, a few weeks away. Panasonic, having the longest presence here and largest operation outside Japan in Malaysia should be giving Malaysia their best products. |
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Jun 2 2010, 05:49 PM
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Since Panasonic Malaysia is so unethical I've totally lost confidence in their products
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Jun 2 2010, 05:55 PM
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talking about panasonic serving malaysian their best products , while at HN ,i saw a unopen box with the real thing inside , full-specs with infinite black PRO panels with THX and also 3D
this super V at 50" , if i remember correctly , the RRP is RM 12-13 k . jee , even their last year top of the line 54'' Z series retail at RM 22 k and the fella tell me i can have it for about RM 18 k. talk about serving us their best products but at premium prices . in the end , we may be dissapointed for the under-specs models sold here but like i said earlier , at the price being offered by panny ,in terms of value for money ,i felt this is a better model than the LGs or Sammys C6 . the build quality is good for its price so is the overall PQ . however , this is just my opinion p/s : it will be a good idea to write to panny and tell them exactly how we malaysian felt being treated as " below the privileged" This post has been edited by sunnyK: Jun 2 2010, 06:04 PM |
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