where you get RM5500? I also want to buy from your contact.

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Added on June 28, 2010, 2:15 pmwhat about those non technical people or those who do not read this forum, pity them. They pay so much for all this hassle?

This post has been edited by michaeltan1943: Jun 28 2010, 02:16 PM

If they do not even realise it, does it matter. There are a lot of people out there who make the decision of a particular display by checking how thin it is, how the design is, if it has a media player built in etc....

With knowledge comes bigger headaches...

No display is perfect michael, they all have their problems...

Cannot say like that bro. Its like saying, if I do not know I got VD (venereal disease), it does not matter.

I know what you mean but yours is a misleading analogy (VD lol). The floating black in Pannys is NOT a health hazard.

Anyway, without ameenskywalker's and anfieldude's guidance and a completely dark room, I wouldn't even be aware of the floating blacks. You must be looking for it in order to notice it but under normal viewing circumstances, chances are you won't notice it.

Sorry, comparing a consumer electronics problem against a disease is just not correct. I really do not want to argue with u on this.

Anyway, I am here to give technical guidance. I would advise those who see it to try out what I said. The minimum gain voltage (brightness) setting seems to trigger a portion of the algo or drive that causes the blacks to elevate temporarily. This is why the blacks float. As the content stabilizes, the algo corrects itself.

Try it if it works, great, else forget what I said. I am not a VD expert!

panny plasmas have had floating black issues in the past . it does not bother me as it is a very rare occurrence and even if it does , it only happen in "slip" seconds

i absolutely agree with AD on his 1183 post


i say for this model, set the lowest contrast and brightness that you think you can accept and enjoy

This post has been edited by sunnyK: Jun 28 2010, 04:56 PM

I ordered Xtreamer Pro Media Player shall share the experience after I have try it.

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Added on June 28, 2010, 6:12 pmHi, so far so good with an avergae of 5 hours operation a day, will post it once I catch the "Black CAT" I phoned and email Panasonic Malaysia on some issuses still no reply from them.

This post has been edited by kgsiaw: Jun 28 2010, 06:12 PM

Regarding these floating black, will Panasonic do anything about it ? does it considered as defects as well ?

floating black I think this issue is unique to panasonic plasma TV, just like rising black pana will simply claim that it is by design

they are not saying anything about these problems right now at least in the USA, because right now pana got sue by USA users

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Added on June 28, 2010, 9:13 pmMy V-series also don't have such problem so far, Guess not every tv have this problem.............

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Added on June 28, 2010, 9:19 pm
Astro Beyond normal channel ( Non HD channel) it zit better PQ compare to normal astro decoder in V20 ? I already use Monster S video Cable, still not satisfy for super sport channel.








This post has been edited by Cliff_Tan73: Jun 28 2010, 09:19 PM

The quality of non-HD channels is the same whether you use standard Astro or Astro B.yond decoder.

The improvement is due to the video connection used. For standard Astro decoder, the best is S-video. For B.yond decoder, you use HDMI connection. If you can see improvement after switching from composite (yellow cable) to s-video, then you should also get significant improvement when moving from S-video to HDMI.

The only advice I can give is that for Hi-Def TVs, please seriously consider upgrading to Astro B.yond. If you want to stick with standard Astro, might as well watch it on your old CRT TV because standard Astro was designed for that.

dont think you can get v series 50" plasma tv at RM5500...the price is for U series only

U 50 around RM4500 can get already,,,,,,,if 50V20 around RM5500, inform me also.I want to upgrade it also.

Sometimes, its not whether it affects or not or whether it is visible or not.

It is a matter of principle really.

A big and reputable company must come clean and inform the consumer about such possibilities occuring. Like Toyota in the US.

If small things like this a given company does not inform its buyers, what about big things like a possible explosion? Will the company also keep quiet?

What if something big crops up in a couple of years?

Like I said, it is a matter of principle.

RM 5,500 for V series was quoted by the manager of an established electrical shop. I hope she did not quote me the wrong model. She quoted Samsung ps50c6500 for 4,999.00. This quotation is without gifts.
Will try to negotiate further. I have seen the sammy quality, I would say not to bad. The anti-reflection is pretty good as the dont use glass on the front...i think.

The shop name start as S or T or H ????

Some black level readings that I obtained for 2009 Panasonic Plasmas

Panasonic 42X10
New : 0.009ft/L
600 hrs : 0.016ft/L
2000hrs : 0.035ft/L

These are my own measurements and they are quite consistent. I use a Chroma 5 and it is accurate until 0.006 ft/L. However, its probably not as accurate as a high end meter but the trend is there. The Chroma 5 can be used for relative measurements and black level. This years Pannys might be a challenge to measure as it is close to the threshold of the

There was a question earlier about Asian sets not showing increase in black levels. It seems like there is an increase. Will you notice it? In a dimly lit room, yes, in a bright room not likely.

don't worry, panasonic has done something about their rapid rising black design flaw

+1 and many thanks for sharing!

It will be great if you could also provide some figures for competing brands such as the Sammys to put it in perspective.

2000 hrs and and black levels deteriorate by 400%. At the rate of my Panny usage (350 hrs/month), I'll hit it in 6 months. Hopefully, the 2010 models deterioration rate is not that high!