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post Apr 6 2010, 11:38 PM

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Overclocking..
For curiosity. A desire to know or learn. It will lead you to know more about computer part.
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post Apr 6 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Apr 7 2010, 12:38 AM)
PC Hardwares life is very long(CPU can last 10-20years).
OCing and with Great Temperature Control won't cause anything bad to be happened.
Even if it minus some of the hardwares life, just be it. You will change the hardwares after a few years, so, minus it's life about 5-10years(if it's 20years life) is totally good and reasonable.
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CPU (processor) can tahan 10-20 years...?? shakehead.gif shocking.gif shakehead.gif
any source can prove it, dude ? brows.gif
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post Apr 6 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(kok-yew @ Apr 6 2010, 11:42 PM)
CPU (processor) can tahan 10-20 years...?? shakehead.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
any source can prove it, dude ?  brows.gif
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Mr. Google will help.
From what you will see when Googling, most users claim that the CPU(Processor) is very hard to die if handled properly even you OCed it.
GPU will die 1st before Processor basically. LOL.

The BEST:

Indefinitely. CPUs "die" due to the effects of electromigration. This is basically when the atoms in the circuits of a chips start to stretch apart and grow outward. Eventually, they will either break or come in contact with other circuits and short out. Depending on numerous factors, such as the manufacturing process (older and larger processes will tend to last longer), heat (less is better) and voltage (less is better), a processor could theoretically last hundreds of years, or short out in a couple minutes. Virtually all processors you will ever encounter will last far longer than the useful life of the product, so it isn't anything you'll have to worry about.

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post Apr 6 2010, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(kok-yew @ Apr 6 2010, 11:42 PM)
CPU (processor) can tahan 10-20 years...?? shakehead.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
any source can prove it, dude ?  brows.gif
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Yes they can, a processor that runs under ideal temperature all the time like those servers in datacenter with huge powerful cooling system, they can last for decades

Even for most common home users who don't overclock and mess around with the voltage, the CPU can last more than 10 years


Unlike motherboard and PSU who more often than never dies from blown capacitor and other huge electronics component failing, semiconductor last way longer than that.
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post Apr 7 2010, 12:40 AM

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I reckon there are more cases of CPU killed by accumulated dust rather than overclocking nowadays..... whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 01:34 AM

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TS : Found someone quote for overclock term and it very gorgeous, use this rule when you are step into OC world ^-^ and you can handle it well ^-^

" Aim For The Best Performance In Overclocking. Trust In The God Of Overclock, Lord Hertz, Lord Latency, Lord Celcius... Do Not Defy Their Will Of Your Maximum Overclock "
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post Apr 7 2010, 03:10 AM

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QUOTE(New beginer @ Mar 22 2010, 02:54 PM)
I want to know, cause im new bout it. Im 0 knowledge bout it.
First is to squeeze more performance out of a cheaper processor, to match (or on par with) the performance of a more expensive processor. In other words get more performance at a cheaper cost brows.gif . Second is to "extend the life" of the processor (no need upgrading for another few more years). In other words, getting current/new performance with older/yesteryear's processor. laugh.gif

Caveat: Better cooling required usually (e.g. better CPU cooler or HSF) and beefier PSU recommended. flex.gif

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post Apr 7 2010, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(kok-yew @ Apr 6 2010, 11:42 PM)
CPU (processor) can tahan 10-20 years...?? shakehead.gif  shocking.gif  shakehead.gif
any source can prove it, dude ?  brows.gif
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most of the time, it's mobo that died or become old-ancient tech (later become useless junk) rather than the proc itself die.


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post Apr 7 2010, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(uzer85 @ Apr 7 2010, 10:36 AM)
most of the time, it's mobo that died or become old-ancient tech (later become useless junk) rather than the proc itself die.
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ya, i still have an Pentium(Pentium 1) proc which still can use, but i cant find anyway to format it(dont have win95, so i destror the WORKING mobo and keep the proc laugh.gif
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post Apr 7 2010, 09:02 PM

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easy explanation

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post Apr 7 2010, 09:06 PM

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QUOTE(AlexLee277 @ Apr 6 2010, 11:35 PM)
yes it will shorten our cpu/gpu/ram lifetime.

but how short it will shorten it into?

a NORMAL lifetime of a computer hardware is 10year(there are still some P2 and P3 era hardware working out there) so u can estimate how long a computer hardware can live

from 5 year lifetime to 3 year lifetime?
A normal processor operation temp is 40-60°C some even 70°C and a Overclocked processor with a 3rd Party cooling normally will get 50-60°C nod.gif some even LOWER with water cooling.

so, normally, a 1.8Ghz to 2.5Ghz is counted as light overclocking it can increase 5+- fps which CANT REALLY U CAN FEEL IT shakehead.gif

normally, Overclocking is just done by computer enthusiast for the purpose of getting higher score in benchmarking program...
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Lifespan of CPU is hard to predict, also overclocking doesn't mean it will reduce its lifespan, there is other things to the equation other than temperature, like voltage. Putting crazy voltage, even with L2N cooling or liquid helium, will reduce the lifespan of the CPU from few years to a few days. Just look at all those 'suicide runs' to achieve highest possible frequencies of the CPU with crazy voltages, they CPU won't even run after few days

5fps is a BIG increase if you mean minimum framerate. Some game that are CPU bound will benefits greatly from this gain, the difference between 20 and 25fps minimum framerate is huge in heated battle when you gaming

Overclocking is not for enthusiasts, its for cheapskate person like me who likes to have higher performance for fraction of a price. I buy Phenom 955BE instead of 965BE for RM100 less, and upping the multiplier to 17 from 16, to 965BE 3.4GHz. Effectively I get 965BE for RM100 less

When overclocking, look out for golden CPU, or GPU. I get lucky previously, from old Pentium 4 2.0GHz Northwood with C1 stepping that could be overclocked to 3GHz with stock cooling, also a paltry Sempron 2500+ 1.4GHz s754 overclcoked to 2.5GHz without a single milivolt of voltage increase also with stock cooling and 6800LE, that could be fully unlocked to 16 pipeline and get near 6800Ultra speed. Surprisingly, all the CPU I mentioned above still worked and kicking till today, except the graphics card which died because of lightning strike

Conclusion is, lifespan of PC components is just like human lifespan, you won't know when it going to die. Benefits? You get more for what you pay for, but you gotta know how a PC works before delving in overclocking waters. This is no place for spoonfeeding, you could find 10000001 guide for overclocking when you online. Goldfries don't like this kind of thread where we spoonfeeding newbies

 

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