QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 29 2010, 03:33 PM)
I guess it using the wave vibration to generate back the current. Any vibration or movement from the wave can generate current to large enough for charging.
Say what? So, mechanical agitation can amplify electrical current?QUOTE(befitozi @ Mar 29 2010, 06:54 PM)
Tell me, is there current flowing through air between the up and down steps of a coil transformer?
Simple picture to 'assist' you

There's no current flowing through the air, as many have pointed out. This is an inductively coupled circuit, but EMF flows in the steel core.Simple picture to 'assist' you

QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 1 2010, 07:22 PM)
Wires with rubber insulators can conduct to the core? Go back to school and learn SPM physics please.
Transformers works with electromagnetic induction. I guess there is no point we discuss this topic with you as you definitely have no idea about Faraday's and Lenz's laws, what more Maxwell's Field equations.
Added on April 1, 2010, 7:33 pmBack to topic.
I always found this topic to be extremely fascinating.
Anyone thought about transmission through higher dimensional space? Some theories suggest that EM waves are side effects of other phenomena happening in higher dimensions. Maybe if we induce that said effect at the source and have it propagate through such space and reproduce itself at the destination.
Though the physics of this could be solved, what about the engineering of it. Food for thought.
Higher dimensional space rarely means a superspace, in most physics calculations it's a subspace i.e. a compactified dimension. If we can reach into these compactified dimensions and meddle with stuff anytime we like, I don't think our universe's physical laws will be the way they are because then, our physical constants would have been very, very different to begin with.Transformers works with electromagnetic induction. I guess there is no point we discuss this topic with you as you definitely have no idea about Faraday's and Lenz's laws, what more Maxwell's Field equations.
Added on April 1, 2010, 7:33 pmBack to topic.
I always found this topic to be extremely fascinating.
Anyone thought about transmission through higher dimensional space? Some theories suggest that EM waves are side effects of other phenomena happening in higher dimensions. Maybe if we induce that said effect at the source and have it propagate through such space and reproduce itself at the destination.
Though the physics of this could be solved, what about the engineering of it. Food for thought.
QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 2 2010, 05:01 PM)
1. Radio waves are EM too. As long as it is below UV frequency it should be fine
2. Similar to the idea i said about higher dimensions. Using a different medium not in direct contact with our physical world
3. Similar to laser/photonic transmission. Very promising field imo.
Using higher dimensional space to do stuff is a dumb idea and besides, the maths doesn't permit it. If it has no direct contact with our physical world, it also means we can't touch it and transfer information through it.2. Similar to the idea i said about higher dimensions. Using a different medium not in direct contact with our physical world
3. Similar to laser/photonic transmission. Very promising field imo.
QUOTE(Xerone @ Apr 3 2010, 11:13 PM)
But transferring information and transferring useful power are slightly different things right? Information can be digital signals (transferred using EM waves) and only require very small amount of energy. I'm only a mechanical engineer but I'm guessing the receiving end of the Touch n Go thing has some sort of amplifier to boots input signal from the card. Low frequencies should suffice for this application.
But for powering devices, wouldn't we need a higher frequency for greater current?
We don't need a high frequency for a greater current, we just need a suitable frequency based on the transmission medium. Transmitting power wirelessly would require both devices to be in resonance at the same frequency, so that a resonant cavity can be set up. This resonant cavity's frequency must be optimized based on our requirements, whether we're transferring a little or a lot of electricity, and whether we're transmitting a short distance or a long distance. It's kind of like the carrier wave that's most suitable for the medium or the transmission parameters.But for powering devices, wouldn't we need a higher frequency for greater current?
For instance, to transmit over long distances, we'll have to use longer wavelengths. Nikola Tesla suggested the use of the Schumann cavity for resonant-coupled wireless power transmission.
QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 7 2010, 02:58 PM)
I believe lightning strikes the best natural & ancient example of electricity travels wirelessly.
Lasers, microwaves, infrared etc can do that too if the output power is strong enough.
Lightning is plasma. It has a conductive medium to flow through. Yeah, that's wireless if you rigidly define "wireless" as being the absence of metallic conductors. If such were the definition, then transmission through conductive plastics would be considered "wireless" as well.Lasers, microwaves, infrared etc can do that too if the output power is strong enough.
Lasers, microwaves and others can't do it as easily for a few reasons. It depends on how much energy that ambient air can absorb in those wavelengths. Microwaves can pass through air rather easily, so it won't impart much energy into ambient air. Infrared radiation can heat ambient air, but it'll take a hell lot of energy for IR to get to the breakdown point of ambient air. Lasers get scattered and attenuated somewhat by ambient air, but it still doesn't dump a lot of energy into ambient air because air don't typically absorb visible light spectra anyway.
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