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Sunway shopping or hotel voucher REIT V2, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Oct 2 2010, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE(zhi guo @ Oct 2 2010, 01:20 AM) Hello, anyone with experiences with Singapore Reits? Besides additonal forex risks, are there any unique issues/risks in buying S Reits? Do dividends received from S'pore attract Malaysian tax? 1. Dividend and capital gains are not taxable in Singapore. Any comments on Ascott Residence Trust reit, Lippo-Mapletree Indonesia reit and Starhill Global Reit? Thank you. 2. Income received from out of Malaysia, if you are a Malaysian Resident are not taxable (income tax) as well, but you need to declare it. 3. For more info and analysis on SGX REITs please visit this Website. So effectively, no tax. This post has been edited by gark: Oct 2 2010, 12:27 PM |
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Nov 11 2010, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 11 2010, 03:12 PM) I always buy in several trench, (kedukut/buying vegetable style), no matter reit or ordinary stocks, so always forgot what price I bought. Use spreadsheet lar... This post has been edited by gark: Nov 11 2010, 05:24 PM |
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Nov 29 2010, 03:59 PM
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Dec 24 2010, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(monkeyking @ Dec 24 2010, 04:41 AM) Singapore is much different, their financing is much lower than Malaysia as their interest rate is very low, so even though they bought at 5% yield, they would still have substantial margins to boost their earnings. IMHO I really think the owner of Queenbays Mall made a killing with the sale at 5% yield. If interest rate continues to go up, the the REIT prices are going to continue to come down. This post has been edited by gark: Dec 24 2010, 09:15 AM |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 24 2010, 10:09 AM) It is about escalating property valuation across aka properties bubble. That day I saw a >RM1 million shop lot yielding only 2.5%, even though with Giant hypermarket in front of it. Properties price keep on going on, but rental is not. So rental yield is squeezed an going down across. I recent come across, million+ condo, only can rent about 3-5K per months with fully furnished, still people rush to buy, might as well park the money in FD, easier. You need some properties market slump so that can get high yield properties. I reckon Capitaland bought Queensbay for future only, not now (as well as Sg financing is cheaper), as Queensbay is located between the 2 bridge, once the second bridge completed, the said location valuation may going up further. Also from foreigner pov, Malaysia property is damn cheap for them. BNM, quickly raise more interest rate! This post has been edited by gark: Dec 24 2010, 10:34 AM |
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QUOTE(ryan18 @ Apr 10 2011, 12:39 PM) hi a new REIT investor here. You can open an account with Phillips security for Singapore shares transaction over the internet. Charges are reasonably low at 0.28%, min SGD 25. Webpage. Otherwise local broker's brokerage is not too bad either... what if i want to invest in singapore REITs? i know its possible but the brokerage and other charges seems to be rather high, so if I want to invest what is the min lot that is recommended to buy so that the high brokerage and whatever charges is worth it? This post has been edited by gark: Apr 10 2011, 05:34 PM |
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 13 2011, 09:01 PM) I finally gave up queuing at $0.905 and took a small bite at 0.91. Bloody thing kept ignoring 0.905 for a few days at stayed at 0.91, gross DY shd be about 8% at that cost |
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Jul 25 2011, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 25 2011, 05:51 PM) For REIT's you don't need to see PE, because PE can be distorted by valuation gains, which you can see but not touch. DY is the better term to compare the performance of REITs, and also DY growth & Gearing. Other than that PE, BV, cash etc hold not much value. This post has been edited by gark: Jul 25 2011, 07:07 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 25 2011, 08:09 PM) Aiya bro Gark, i'm a typical kiasi Cina beng mar. All other investments and trades can see P/E - this one buta buta elek, chicken shit lar, especially when this happened to Shell several years back. Floor may be full of feathers Wah.. you buy based on your platform's PE ah? That is very very dangerous, often the PE shown on the platform is not accurate. You have to read the P&L sheet. There are many items such as one off gains, revaluation, currency difference etc which affect the PE. Never buy any stock based on platform PE, read the P&L.. and especially operating cashflow and then conclude your PE.The more info / data, the better heheh This applies to all stocks and not only REIT's. This post has been edited by gark: Jul 26 2011, 02:38 PM |
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Jul 26 2011, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2011, 03:00 PM) Different platforms, different P/E calculations mar - i aint suicidal. There are many things to consider other then PE, if just taking the lowest PE to be the best bet, then don't you think anyone also can invest successfully. Heh, I never once before used the PE is the media or platform as a guide, as they are often misleading.P/E on the platform's just one of several things i look at. If all else being equal, i'll take the lower P/E thank U very much BTW, saw your blog. You a fellow SJ'er? This post has been edited by gark: Jul 26 2011, 04:26 PM |
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 26 2011, 05:36 PM) Yup yup - P/E's like "last few" stuff as consideration, not the main ones. I see, well I have been there since 20+ years ago, so I am old timer SJ'er liao, used to be super cheap, ulu kampung place, but now.... Hhehe - U mean the blog on saline drips? Yeah - SJer, moved there in end 2007, nice place but a bit pricy (food-wise) VS PJ SS3 & Setia Alam. Back to topic, the only REIT with reasonable growth is AXREIT, so I am monitoring diligently. This post has been edited by gark: Jul 26 2011, 06:21 PM |
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Jul 27 2011, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 27 2011, 04:08 PM) Good lord - really? Reverse methodology of warrants & options (leveraged to the hilt)? REIT are relatively stable... so with large capital & low trading fees, you might eek out 0.3%-0.5% gain in each trade (after fees). Lets say you trade once a day, for 26 days the miniscule returns will be compounded, I am sure you can count the returns? not bad right? Huge capital + low trading fees..in terms of net returns over capital exposed (employed) should be very very thin lor. May be worth the effort & risk if this capital is just a small part of his/her total net worth gua. When loading up, how to ensure the volume doesnt move market price up and when unloading - how to ensure it doesn't move the market price down (such volume wor)? If a trade do fail, mah keep for dividends lor... Heh I am still learning this methodology and still don't have the guts to try it out yet. |
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 28 2011, 10:46 AM) Bro Gark - any URLs or books for me to steal some kungfu on this REITs trading ar? I want to see the logic and work it out on Excel No need book lar, you can work out the logic mah. Lets say a prominent REIT, sell queue 1.20, buy queue 1.19Lets say Buy 1.19 x 50,000 units = 59,500 Trading fees = (0.08% +0.03%) x 59,500 =65.45 Stamp Duty = RM 60 Total buy cost = 59500+65.45+60 =59625.45 And immediately put in sell queue... Sell 1.20 x 50,000 units = 60,000 Trading fees = (0.08%+0.03%) x 60,000 = 66 Stamp duty = 60 Total Sell cost = 60,000 - 66 - 60 =59,874 Total profit = 59874-59625 =RM 249 Total returns = 0.418%, then rinse and repeat ... the higher your capital the more you earn, but spread the risk over several REIT's Also for that kind of trading fees, you cannot use contra, must be usually cash upfront account... If lose money don't come find me yah. This post has been edited by gark: Jul 28 2011, 11:30 AM |
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