Well at least for me, I shoot much more accurate using the L86 iron sights. Thermal kinda tricky when someone uses Cold blooded perk. It's a lot better to have a better view using the iron sights.

Mobility is always good. Commando perk pro can help you get out of the hot zone after a few kills faster.

Remember not all of the opposing team uses HBS. If you move as a team, you can clear HBS users while the rest stay confused on where the shot came from.

It's your choice really, the build I use work for me.

This post has been edited by nipaa1412: Mar 24 2010, 11:23 AM

Refer to my last post i think you miss the sentence after i dont hav problem blah3.

RANDOM?Its not random its the RECOIL.

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Added on March 23, 2010, 6:57 pmWell most them wont get confused coz they are finding someone that is using the scrambler perk.The skull icon after someone is death is like giving a little warning that a enemy is nearby.

This post has been edited by youjingng: Mar 23 2010, 06:57 PM

Recoil does not affect hip spread.

What affects hip spread?Care to tell me?

Hip spread is hip spread. Its effect on the gun's accuracy is so great that the recoil is insignificant.

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Draw a circle that touches all 4 points of the crosshair. That's how big the hip spread is for the gun (note: different guns have different hip spread).

For most of the guns in CoD4 (and assumingly, for MW2 as well), the hip-firing recoil does not kick the center of the crosshair away from the middle of the screen. And even if they do, the random-ness of hip spread (the larger the crosshair, the more random the spread is) far outweighs the hip-recoil.

The only way to make hip-burst-firing marginally successful is to go prone with steady aim and stay still. But...
1. that'll just make you a sitting duck.
2. aiming down the sight in that kind of situation is far more effective than to spray from the hip.

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Mar 23 2010, 10:28 PM

Burst fire does absolutely jack shit for accuracy from the hip in CoD games. This isn't Counter-Strike.

Falk I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. Burst fire DOES help with accuracy of hip fire in CoD4. You can try it yourself if you don't believe me. Do some tests in-game, with continuous fire or controlled burst fire, the difference is really big.

sorry, wrong gun. LOL.

the 1st LMG available, L86. i got mixed up. see, that's how long i didn't use LMG.

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Added on March 24, 2010, 1:55 pm

i use commando cos if see fella close range, better chance of me whacking the fella.

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Added on March 24, 2010, 1:59 pmeverything also need skill la. G18 akimbo do wrong also gone.

same here. ACR person.

i find it helps, when enemy appear there's no time to hold up the gun for better aim. so just shoot from hip, bursting helps as it controls the recoil thus allowing better aim.

1]Use more LMG.I recommend the MG4.

2]SPAS-12.FTW

3]G18 require little to no skill.Even a newbie can get a good K/D with this pistol.

4]Burst firing from the hip?The 1st burst is the most crucial.A single bullet from the 1st burst that misses is a matter of life and death.Except you are playing HARDCORE.

I think it's a moot point to use shotguns when you u are using a LMG that could gun down targets at a distance. I did rather use a handgun for fast draw or a stinger to counter air support.

Having shotguns proves that you are more engaged to CQBs. You are better off with a SMG cum shotgun build for CQB.

The raffica can also do quick swap but slightly slower than the other pistols.The .44 magnum has the fastest swap among the other pistols.


I already have a shotgun run and gun build. .Besides i'm getting a very good K/D with this build in every match[specific map]

All pistols have the same swap time.

Man, you need to get your facts right.

Except for the raffica and the magnum.

Raise/drop time for all pistols (including M93r and Magnum) are the same. (0.3/0.5)

This post has been edited by Luftwacko: Mar 24 2010, 07:42 PM

MG 4 silenced because its fast and silencers reduce recoil and gun flare. My secondary is normally G18 akimbo.

Sleight of Hand Pro or Bling Pro - MG4 Silenced, Grip, G18 - Akimbo Silenced.
Stopping Power Pro
Steady Aim Pro

I NEVER hip fire because its completely random and wastes ammo imho. I'd rather swap to my G18 or knife. Otherwise, he'll be in range for a rain of bullets anyway.

Did you know that the MG4 ironsights are BUG.?

1) ok

2) no time to change la. i run around with main gun, see enemy 1st thing i do is knife liao lo

3) i find it needs skill, since G18 starts by being single gun rather than akimbo. then there's the skill needed to go near for firing range but not necessarly newbie can get it right. K/D IMO not tied to the gun that much because learning to hide / move / survive plays the role.

4) yes. after that is hope to finish off.

You mean like this?

Its not a bug, they're just misaligned.

Yah thats the WORD!!TY .The sights is really hard to use in long range engagements.

BtW don't attach the the silencer.It will reveal you on the map when you fire.BUG!!

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Added on March 26, 2010, 6:55 pm1]I recommend this class build for the MG4

Primary:MG4[Thermal]
Secondary:I recommend any machine pistole.
EQ:Your choice.Usually i use C4 for my MG class[i play ground war domination]
Perk1:Sleight of Hand
Perk2:Stopping Power or Cold-Blooded
Perk3:Steady Aim or Ninja

A little bit of explanation.The MG4 is considered as the ACR version LMG with no dmg drop off and HUGE ammo cap.With the GRIP its recoil is similar to the ACR.Without the GRIP it is similar to the M4A1.I recommend the THermal because of the weapon low recoil and lets you easily acquire target from far range.Sleight of Hand is a must have perk for obvious reason faster reload and faster ADS.If you want to play a stealthy approach go for the cold-blooded and ninja coz i find it works really well.If you got hard time killing ppl you should use the SP but i will not recommend it because of the MG4's high ROF.

2]SPAS-12 can also be use as a run and gun style.



This post has been edited by youjingng: Mar 26 2010, 06:55 PM

k. similar to my usual build. i usually don't use thermal, fine with red dot or iron sight for long range.