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ken86
post Mar 19 2010, 11:19 AM

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Hmmm

1. “Strength” does not mean training like a powerlifter. Everybody immediately defaults to this position without even thinking about the argument. Powerlifting is a competitive sport that requires specialized training to increase strength in the three lifts. Training to increase your 1RM in the squat, bench, and deadlift qualifies as getting stronger, yes – but that is not the only way to define ‘getting stronger’. Increasing your strength might mean increasing your best set of 8 reps; or it might mean going from one set of 5 to four sets of 8 with the same weight; and it can even mean going from a maximum set of 5 to a very easy set of 5 (by using the relative feel of the set as an indicator).

“Getting stronger” can mean lots of things, and fundamentally all it means is that your muscles have added the ability to handle a workload. While I do think powerlifting overlaps with bodybuilding in many ways, they don’t have to be defined as the same thing. That’s an epic black/white fallacy which includes no other options between Sheiko and five-day Bro-splits.

2. Specialized training yields specialized results. This is why we can all point to ’small’ powerlifters moving gangsta weights around. Those guys have trained themselves to maximize every advantage in leverage, equipment, and they’ve trained for months or years to lift that way.

Comparing powerlifting and bodybulding is a wrong choice, honestly, because it always seems to lead to this nonsense. I think we may do better to start phrasing this as ‘basic strength training’ or what Rip calls his Basic Barbell Training. This differs from powerlifting in that there’s no specialization towards lifting 1RM weights in the big three. Instead, you’re focusing on those lifts, but also trying to improve other stuff to build well-rounded general strength. like 5/3/1

Obviously there’s a lot of overlap, but basic strength training doesn’t have the specialized elements of competition involved. As per point #1, you can most definitely train for strength without specializing into powerlifting – even if you’re using the same exercises and similar programs.

3. The biggest guys are always the strongest guys.

4. Crossfit is just a fancy term, it involves getting stronger and more conditioned as well. How much does it deviate from strength + conditioning ?
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post Mar 20 2010, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ Mar 19 2010, 02:20 PM)
Ken, you got the good point.

Back to the topic

i am thinking to have a morning workout before go to works

wake up on 6.30am, and have a 30min-1hours bodyweight playground workout

the idea of workout is as below, sequence from top to bottom.

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You are gonna burnt out real quick.

Unless you build up to it , bodyweight conditioning in the morning + swimming/training (my term of weighlifting = clean & jerk, snatch).

Since you don't plan in competing in climbing, you should just increase your GPP (general physical preparedness)

monday : train + some light cardio post workout
tuesday : Conditioning
wednesday : train + maybe 2 tabata circuit
thursday : conditoning
Friday : train + light cardio post workout
Saturday : Conditioning / rest
sunday : rest

Getting big is a combination of lifting heavy with correct form, and eating correctly. Getting ripped, is dieting down to strip off fat.

Getting strong is a product of "struggles", getting fast and athletic is practicing skill.

This post has been edited by ken86: Mar 20 2010, 10:29 AM
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post Apr 18 2010, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(jamis @ Apr 17 2010, 01:46 PM)
haha, the best i ever skip without tripping is only up to 100+ rounds else its going to fail aft 50 or 60 lol.

lol, yeah saw ur video the thing patah summore... sweat.gif

Oo easy with the sandbag, i almost injured myself the first time i swing, got to get use to the flow and make sure the warm up is sufficient especially ur traps and back.
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ken86
post Apr 21 2010, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 20 2010, 10:11 PM)
wohooO!!! i'm not a mod anymore!! Yes yes yes!!!! hahahahaha!!!!
Time to enjoy discussing in this forum again, and not have to worry about prying eyes.
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What happened lol ! I m curious who's the new mod as well
ken86
post May 25 2010, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ May 24 2010, 11:01 PM)
It is confirmed by Charles Poliquin though, and if Charles Poliquin said it, it's highly likely to be true.
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I remember reading this a while back and stuart mc gill is the best you can find in terms lower back stuffs

You also talk about our increased risk in the morning hours after waking. Can you explain this?

Stuart McGill: As you know, you’re taller when you wake up in the morning than when you go to bed at night. This is because the discs are hydrophilic, that means they suck up water while you sleep and when there are no stresses present.

After rising, hydrostatic stresses of just walking around and using the muscles during the day compress your spine and the fluid is squeezed out, decreasing the anular tensions in the disc. So, when you wake up the extra height in the discs are analogous to a full water balloon ready to burst and if you bend, you build up much higher stresses in the disc. In fact, the stresses are three times higher than when you perform the same bend two or three hours later.

Now I’m not talking about getting up and going for a walk or perhaps a boxer going for a jog first thing in the morning. I’m talking about heavy bending exercises, like for example the good-morning exercise or doing sit-ups. Somehow people thought that this would be a good thing to do in the morning. It’s the worst possible thing you could do for the back first thing in the morning. I personally have a more favorite morning exercise, it’s what I like to call a "great-morning," but I don’t think my wife would appreciate me talking about it! Full spine bending first thing in the morning is a great way to damage your back—an unwise thing to do.

anyways it makes perfect sense, and you wouldn't go training FIRST THING UPON WAKING, you will ingest some calories in the form of liquid preferably then drive to where u train and then u stretch

This post has been edited by ken86: May 25 2010, 09:19 AM
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post Sep 20 2010, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(tenno @ Sep 20 2010, 12:40 PM)
I managed to get hold of a tractor tire a couple of days ago.. been doing tire flipping... have to say it's a very, very intense workout with them tires... now looking to get a sledgehammer.. tire pounding next.. but those sledgehammers not cheap.. at my local hardware store, the heaviest (12 lbs) costs RM78.. the lightest is 6 lbs (RM38). But if u can get to do tire flipping.. it works maybe all muscles... total body, plus cardio.. not to mention the wow factor from surroundings...  tongue.gif
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those tractor tires are great, how heavy are those ? I got a 450 lbs one and the possibility is endless. Tire Flipping, tire battles (two person pushing the tire), and tire sled dragging (I loop a 3/8 inch chain and strap and drag it). It's superb GPP work/conditioning day (great alternative to the treadmill!) plus pairing it with some sledgehammer pounding. I got my sledgehammer second hand from those at the construction side pretty cheap.

 

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