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gtoforce
post Mar 19 2010, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Mar 19 2010, 05:28 PM)
I notice that I get the best results in terms of increasing size, when I train in the lower rep ranges (5 or less). I think many people, especially the beginners get caught up in going on 'bodybuilding routines' of 8-12 reps because the pros do it, without first understanding themselves.

Charles Poliquin once mentioned that if you take 80% (or was it 85%) of your 1 rep max, generally most people can do 6 reps. If you get less than 4, it means that your training should be lower rep oriented. Myself only managed 3. So I can see why lower rep ranges work out so well for me.

I think if you're not experienced enough to write your own program, 5/3/1 is probably the best program if increasing strength is your main goal.

yeah_guyz I assume you want to climb mount kinabalu?

If yes, don't neglect your strength training. Most special forces unit in the armed forces require that their soldiers be able to bring their squat up to a minimum of 2 x bodyweight. These guys strap on 20kg and walk for up to 60km in less than one day, so they need very strong legs to withstand the forces that their legs go through.

As for your playground training, it's best to do it in a circuit training manner, alternating between upper body and lower body exercises. I highly recommend that you include burpees (for extra fun' dont just hold the pushup position, do the pushup) and mountain climbers. You can also do bodyweight squats. Btw, you never provided us with reps and sets numbers.
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tapi ronnie coleman cakap he hates 1 rep max
i think it's all trial and error
some people get the best results out of the 12/10/8 pyramid while others get the best out of something else
nothing is fixed in bb or weightlifting cuz different body requires different orientation..
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post Mar 23 2010, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Mar 22 2010, 09:23 PM)
I've had great results on slow eccentrics. I actually knew they existed all this while, but never really knew why they worked, till I visited Coach Jon. He explained that there should always be a gap between concentric and eccentric strength, so that your concentric strength will keep improving to catch up to the eccentric strength, since you can lower more than you can lift.

Now I mostly lift in a 4010 tempo, I hate doing slow eccentrics, but damn they work. Gotta learn to swallow your ego and use lighter weights. For me the benefits have mainly been in hypertrophy, although I noticed that going on slow eccentrics allow me to increase the weight or number of repetitions every week. Constant progress.

Btw how's your HCl experiment coming along?
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i've read about eccentrics and concentrics last year or so masa i baca about negatives
found some posts in bb.com talking about this
some of the google search results suggested, to me at least, that eccentrics is better most of the time due to major muscle tear but can invoke overtraining too and also its best used in compound movements...i could be wrong though...haha
maybe u guys can explain ur view on both eccentrics and concentrics?

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post Mar 23 2010, 10:41 PM

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thanks man
and no i dont really care about ego
what i want is to grow
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post Mar 24 2010, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Mar 23 2010, 10:51 PM)
I didnt mean YOU as in gtoforce haha, I meant it in a general way, don't misunderstand smile.gif
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haha
i meant in generally too
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post Apr 1 2010, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Apr 1 2010, 12:31 AM)
More about eccentric and tempo training from the master himself:

http://www.charlespoliquin.com/ArticlesMul...cle.aspx?ID=285
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thanks for the link bro

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post Apr 5 2010, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 5 2010, 09:46 AM)
That's funny. Almost anybody with a semi-decent squat (even half squat) and a few months (some even weeks) of training should be able to hit 140KG in the deadlift. How's your training like?

I'm pretty sure I can cough up a very simple routine you can use to break your plateau.
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whats the routine eh pizza?
i cant do 140kg for deadlift
my max is 100kg

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post Apr 21 2010, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Apr 20 2010, 11:27 PM)
Who's the new mod then?  AM I THE NEW MOD?  I NOMINATE ME
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well when ur a mod, u can try to not to sensor words we type in this thread
only for bb thread
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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 3 2010, 08:29 AM)
yeah thanks, but progress damn slow lah. i was on cutting all these while and i plateau for around 2 months for my squat and deadlift. At least now making progress a lil.

I'm weighing at 81.1kg nw smile.gif
leg training for me is squat squat and squat, then deadlifts, box jumps for explosiveness.

yes PR 145 1x1
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david no pics?

 

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