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cheezzzz
post Mar 31 2010, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(Desvaro @ Mar 23 2010, 08:57 PM)
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this forum is a gold mine. thanks for posting and explaining. a very very good read! simple and straight to the point man. Im going to try this in my routine as I'm beginning to stall in some lifts. thanks for the info again!! biggrin.gif
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post Apr 8 2010, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ Apr 8 2010, 12:53 AM)

If one were stuck at the squats at parallel, I suggest doing jumps from a low box (sitting on it) to a high box. What this does is that it teaches you to powerfully get OUT of the hole. I move my low box to about 1 meter away from the high box and jump on it. My high box is about 90CM high.  So what's cool about this, is ...I can gauge my improvement two ways. Either by moving the box further away from each other, or increasing the height of my high box. Also the landing height tells a lot as well. If I'm tired, I'll land lower and lower (as in my butt will eventually touch my calves) but I try to keep my landing height at parallel.

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PB i just tried doing these box jumps today about 3 sets until failure. Then I realised how weak I was to 'get out of the hole'. Recently I reached the 1x BW mark for my squats and sometimes I feel 'sleepy' like you mentioned, and some times I stall and I actually fell down from squatting for the first time ever due to failure upon squatting 1x my BW. I feel maybe the motion for jumping on the box and the pushing of the weights upwards during squads could just be the same.
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post Apr 8 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(shanecross @ Apr 8 2010, 01:43 PM)
@ cheezzzz

What routine you on mate?

@Kirks

Sometimes, even at 75% of rep max, going for 4 sets of triples can be a pain in the butt after 6-7 sets. The thing about how i squat is, i try to control both ascending and descending, if I just bomb down it gets a little flimsy. On certain, days, the workouts aren't as taxing as the previous ones.hmmmm...So all in all, Sheiko makes your lift better mechanically.
I'm yet to try the REAL sheiko, the one that has a 4 day split due to time constrain.
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started on stronglifts 5x5 in feb. so far only about a month of continuous training. today's box jumps I did at the park were not part of my regular routine, I felt I needed a workout cuz gonna be away from gym for the next few days haha

I read a bit on sheiko, looks good. may want to try it once i can squat 1.5x BW n DL 2x BW and done with stronglifts.
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post Apr 9 2010, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(winkybear @ Apr 8 2010, 08:33 PM)
Hey guys,

Current on stronglifts 5x5. Will most likely reach 1xBW on the squat by the end of next week. I just realized that I had to start with 40kg on the deadlift and increase by 5kg each time I deadlift. I started with an empty bar and progressively added half of that each time, similar to the other workouts. D: Omg what a horrible mistake. No wonder the deadlifts felt easy.

What should I do now to let the deadlifts catch up with my squats in terms of adding the weight?
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great question. my deadlift is lagging behind as well. but I'm lifting as much as I can now. TBH u should try to use 20kg weight plates, so ur total weight will be 20+20+20 = 60kg. Cuz thats the ideal height for the bar to be from the ground.. but also dont add drastically. Lets say last deadlift workout u did 40kg. next day of deadlift workout start warming up with good mornings, stretch your hams, glutes,quads.. Continue the warm up with heavier sets, until u eventually feel its getting a bit hard and let that be the work set of the day. IMO its just my 2 cents and what I would do, but I hold no responsibility whether it is the right way or not.

example
1 x as much stretching as you need.
1 x 5 40kg
1 x 5 50kg
1 x 5 60kg - starting to feel really hard to lift
1 x 4 65kg - failure
(If by any point you feel it is getting really hard to lift,grip failing or whatsoever - thats your workset)

Attempt that weight again the next time u deadlift, should be able to do 1x5, then can continue adding 5kg progressively or 2.5kg progressively

PB: haahha not directly failure, like do until I feel that my explosiveness in jumps are weakening.

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post Apr 9 2010, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Apr 9 2010, 08:07 PM)
Sounds a little too much volume on the deadlift for stronglift 5x5.
I would suggest bigger increment in weight between sessions: perhaps 7.5kg instead of 5kg increase.

I don't think in plyos or jumps, you need to do until you're weakening. Each rep should be strong. That's why the low reps and longer rest time per set.
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true but

Example 3: Deadlift work weight 220lbs/100kg

* 5x135lbs/60kg (once you have the strength, start straight with 135lbs/60kg, your legs are warmed up from Squats anyway and the correct starting position has the bar starting at mid-shin level).
* 5x175lbs/80kg (45lbs/20kg increase)
* 5x220lbs/100kg (45lbs/20kg increase)

Concept is pretty much that. but 5 sets (including warm ups) is really a bit too much la ahhah, my bad.

noted the plyos n jumps though, thanks for the advice biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2010, 09:36 PM

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hey guys, ive a question.. today i kinda went down too fast on my squat and i felt a sharp joint-like pain at my tailbone area. stopped immediately and rested. attempted to squat again but everytime i descend for squats i get that pain.

for now ima rest.. anyone have any idea whats going on? any advice for recovery? should I use machines for my next workout day or.. are there any other alternatives? that is if I dont recover in time haha
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post Apr 22 2010, 09:11 PM

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thanks pb! wished I read your advice earlier so I'd lie down more often haha.

tmr is deadlift day sad.gif will see how it goes. may just work other bodyparts. I take it that I should stay away from squats too if it persists right?
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post May 4 2010, 11:44 AM

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got a question guys.. just realised how many variations of the squat there is and is there ever such thing as 1 squat that hits every part of your body? cuz I know some variations have more emphasis on quads, some more on the glutes and hams.

ever since my lower back injury (due to squeezing out of the hole during a squat, apparently they call it good morning-ing out of a squat) I am trying to strengthen my glute and hams, not to mention hip as well to hopefully fix this issue.

so is there 1 squat that is the 'full body exercise' that most ppl claim it to be? or technically it is a full body exercise with variations? currently I'm doing back squats to thighs being parallel. I am considering ATG squats or even a wide stance squat. With that I am still considering whether to back squat or front squat, cuz FS i cant handle that much weight as opposed to back. any suggestions guys?
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post May 4 2010, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 4 2010, 09:28 PM)
how heavy did u actually "good morning-ed" out from ur squat? I can imagine how much stress u put on your lower back if your "good morning" is above 100kg
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i didnt literally but i know it was somewhat not natural already as the weights were not so much on the heel, shifting to toes at some point. i did 70kg.

im thinking mebe cuz my hip,hams and glutes are weak, thats why my squat stalled so early. im thinking of reverting to another stance wider,narrower,atg... i dono man.. what do u suggest david?
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post May 4 2010, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 4 2010, 10:16 PM)
Ur falling forward cuz U don't know how to keep your butt out. Technique issues.
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confirm nothing to do with glute/hip strength? ._. and all this while i keep hearing how squat is a great body workout but ive never had it hit my glutes enough.

and whats the benefit of atg? what if i really dont have the strength lol. it isnt so much the keeping butt out thing, i always make sure my ass is out when i squat n when i go up. but i never do ATG, i do either parallel or slightly pass only but never ATG.
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post May 5 2010, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(david890701 @ May 5 2010, 06:56 AM)
everytime after i squat hard enough, my quad, hamstring, abductors, glutes all sore.

You sure u did it right?
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thats why. i probably did not lol. mind to share your stance? and do u ATG or just parallel?
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post May 5 2010, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(yeah_guyz @ May 5 2010, 11:39 AM)
i thought ATG more on glute, dont forget the hips drive too. correct me if i were wrong

if want to hit quad, try front squat
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this is what im talking about..so anyone to clarify the differences between the variations? widestance, narrow stance, atg, parallel, front squat, back squat..
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post May 5 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(John91 @ May 5 2010, 11:48 AM)
Atg hit more glutes. Slightly below parallel on quads. I feel stances are up to personal preference as long as your form is correct. Google it up la banyak malas.
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post May 5 2010, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(choyster @ May 5 2010, 07:18 PM)
guys just a question, which part of the body do you think is more important to develop first before the other,  arms or body(chest/abs)?
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the body parts with bigger muscle. chest, back,leg and shoulder.

supplement with core (abs) n lower back strengthening n calf too? bi n tri... when ppl notice u get bigger then only botherla..

imo compound lifts. not so much of which part is more important to develop. u dont want to look like a popsicle on 2 sticks. up there so big but legs like chicken

 

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