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post May 22 2010, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Cotton Diesel @ May 22 2010, 05:50 AM)
waaaa. Thanks PB. will search for it. Im on MAX-OT though.
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Erh...ur on the wrong thread. tongue.gif
Nolah just joking. This thread's a more on strength training. Max-OT is a hypertrophy program. I don't know how you're going to include them in though.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 21 2010, 10:55 PM)
Don't get cock stared when I enter the Bank Muamalat (stupid sports council banks our pay into this dumb bank where nobody speaks English), don't have to bother about who wins the election, don't have to worry about whose ass got shoved and whose didn't.  Yeah, quite a variety of reasons actually. Including better pay and an opportunity to learn from one of Asia's best coaches. Heck, I may even get a PR and compete for Singapore!

Okay for traps development. Doooo block clean pulls! Hold the top position. Jeezz.....burned my traps to death today.
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I know what is clean pulls.
But what's block clean pulls?


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post May 22 2010, 06:58 PM

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You lift from a block i reckon.
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post May 22 2010, 07:30 PM

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post May 22 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 22 2010, 10:57 AM)
Erh...ur on the wrong thread. tongue.gif
Nolah just joking. This thread's a more on strength training. Max-OT is a hypertrophy program. I don't know how you're going to include them in though.
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Dont be mad at me PB cry.gif . hahhahaha. no lah just sharing there, thought wanna get some tips first with the otai2 here. After i finished my program, i will come here and be part of you all. [if can la] tongue.gif
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Oh it's easy to be like us. Just train heavy, train compound, train with low reps, don't shave or bathe (secret to strength) and fart a lot.
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QUOTE(pizzaboy @ May 23 2010, 08:23 AM)
Oh it's easy to be like us. Just train heavy, train compound, train with low reps, don't shave or bathe (secret to strength) and fart a lot.
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is it? Tell me its a joke pls tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chicaman @ May 23 2010, 08:29 AM)
is it? Tell me its a joke pls tongue.gif
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Guys, i need some opinion here.

I recently changed to the 5X5 workout from Rippetoe. For the last one month, i have been unable to go to the gym constantly due to work. I use to go 5-6 times a week but now it's 2-3 and that's if i'm lucky to leave work early.

Therefore, i thought of going early in the morning to gym, perhaps 6+. I need to know if anyone has tried it before and how do you feel during work?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 23 2010, 02:44 PM)
Guys, i need some opinion here.

I recently changed to the 5X5 workout from Rippetoe. For the last one month, i have been unable to go to the gym constantly due to work. I use to go 5-6 times a week but now it's 2-3 and that's if i'm lucky to leave work early.

Therefore, i thought of going early in the morning to gym, perhaps 6+. I need to know if anyone has tried it before and how do you feel during work?

Thanks.
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As long as you take a bath, I don't see the problem. tongue.gif

And yes, I used to try it myself. Exercise at 8 am and then work 11 to 8.
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ May 23 2010, 06:11 PM)
As long as you take a bath, I don't see the problem. tongue.gif

And yes, I used to try it myself. Exercise at 8 am and then work 11 to 8.
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Haha, i have to be at work by 9. After trying out the 5X5 for a couple of weeks, it's tiring. I guess if i go in the mornings i need to alter the program.
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Hahaha. Just look at al the Hungarian lifter. Like yeti one. No shave, no shower. Let the testosterone deals itself.
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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 23 2010, 02:44 PM)
Guys, i need some opinion here.

I recently changed to the 5X5 workout from Rippetoe. For the last one month, i have been unable to go to the gym constantly due to work. I use to go 5-6 times a week but now it's 2-3 and that's if i'm lucky to leave work early.

Therefore, i thought of going early in the morning to gym, perhaps 6+. I need to know if anyone has tried it before and how do you feel during work?

Thanks.
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If you're gonna go at 6, you better wake up at around 4. It is not safe to lift weights during the first 2 hours that you're awake, you'll hurt your back much more easily.

I'm too busy to find the source now, but it was mentioned by Charles Poliquin. Maybe try googling Charles Poliquin and keywords like lifting first thing in the morning.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with training early in the morning. Just make sure your diet is in check.
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ May 23 2010, 09:26 PM)
If you're gonna go at 6, you better wake up at around 4. It is not safe to lift weights during the first 2 hours that you're awake, you'll hurt your back much more easily.

I'm too busy to find the source now, but it was mentioned by Charles Poliquin. Maybe try googling Charles Poliquin and keywords like lifting first thing in the morning.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with training early in the morning. Just make sure your diet is in check.
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Thanks for the insight. I did not know that.
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Psychology factor or physiological factor?
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ May 23 2010, 09:26 PM)
If you're gonna go at 6, you better wake up at around 4. It is not safe to lift weights during the first 2 hours that you're awake, you'll hurt your back much more easily.

I'm too busy to find the source now, but it was mentioned by Charles Poliquin. Maybe try googling Charles Poliquin and keywords like lifting first thing in the morning.

Other than that, there's nothing wrong with training early in the morning. Just make sure your diet is in check.
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Physiological factor.
The spine is extended and the filled with fluids between the spinal joints. Higher risk of injury.
That's why the suggestion to wait for at least 2 hours for the spine to 'normalise' before lifting heavy stuff especially squats and deadlifts.

I've just chatted with a friend, apparently this info is not verified. Take it with a huge pinch of salt. Please use common sense and google.

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But then again, I cannot train in the morning. Just have no strength and everywhere feels stiff.
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ May 24 2010, 02:07 PM)
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Physiological factor.
The spine is extended and the filled with fluids between the spinal joints. Higher risk of injury.
That's why the suggestion to wait for at least 2 hours for the spine to 'normalise' before lifting heavy stuff especially squats and deadlifts.

I've just chatted with a friend, apparently this info is not verified. Take it with a huge pinch of salt. Please use common sense and google.
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It is confirmed by Charles Poliquin though, and if Charles Poliquin said it, it's highly likely to be true.
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QUOTE(Desvaro @ May 24 2010, 11:01 PM)
It is confirmed by Charles Poliquin though, and if Charles Poliquin said it, it's highly likely to be true.
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I remember reading this a while back and stuart mc gill is the best you can find in terms lower back stuffs

You also talk about our increased risk in the morning hours after waking. Can you explain this?

Stuart McGill: As you know, you’re taller when you wake up in the morning than when you go to bed at night. This is because the discs are hydrophilic, that means they suck up water while you sleep and when there are no stresses present.

After rising, hydrostatic stresses of just walking around and using the muscles during the day compress your spine and the fluid is squeezed out, decreasing the anular tensions in the disc. So, when you wake up the extra height in the discs are analogous to a full water balloon ready to burst and if you bend, you build up much higher stresses in the disc. In fact, the stresses are three times higher than when you perform the same bend two or three hours later.

Now I’m not talking about getting up and going for a walk or perhaps a boxer going for a jog first thing in the morning. I’m talking about heavy bending exercises, like for example the good-morning exercise or doing sit-ups. Somehow people thought that this would be a good thing to do in the morning. It’s the worst possible thing you could do for the back first thing in the morning. I personally have a more favorite morning exercise, it’s what I like to call a "great-morning," but I don’t think my wife would appreciate me talking about it! Full spine bending first thing in the morning is a great way to damage your back—an unwise thing to do.

anyways it makes perfect sense, and you wouldn't go training FIRST THING UPON WAKING, you will ingest some calories in the form of liquid preferably then drive to where u train and then u stretch

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I woke up. Take my breakfast, chill2 with a TV series first. Then start my workout.

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