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SSJBen
post Jul 25 2013, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(bakry @ Jul 25 2013, 02:10 PM)
I am currently playing my PS3 on my benq monitor. which monitor i cannot remember..22 or 24 inch..hdmi port...

Am planning to upgrade my monitor but using a tv instead. i'll be puttin it on my desk. Would a 30-40inch tv screw up my eyes in the long run if viewed close as if its a monitor?
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It won't screw up your eyes in the way you're thinking.

But having a 40inch TV 2-3 feet infront of you at 1080p is like looking at dog crap. The DPI on a 40inch way too big to be had infront of you.
Text will be blurry as heck, good luck with reading.
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post Jul 27 2013, 11:51 AM

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W904 = one of the best TV for gaming out there now, amazingly low input lag.

@kabuto
Please check your set for any excessive backlight clouding, I've seen lots of reports about it.
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post Jul 27 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(kabuto rider kick @ Jul 27 2013, 11:16 PM)
Yup agreed about the input lag,there's a review on the net mentioned the same,btw about the excessive backlight clouding,so far nothing funny with the tv or its pic quality,but still how to check?or where to look?

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Get a totally black background and just look at the lighting. If you see excessive patches of grays, those are clouding. I'm only asking because I've heard quite a few reports on it,.
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post Sep 13 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 13 2013, 06:28 PM)
guys got any tv price around 2k and nice for gaming and movie?
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Sony 40"R452a, goes for about RM1.9k. Lowest input lag for a TV under the RM2k mark, ranging around 25ms which is very, very good.
Quite a good TV across all ranges though — from blacks, to whites, to decent color accuracy.

There are some issues with uniformity, but that's to expect for LCD LED TVs as all of them suffer inbalancing in screen uniformity.
Blacks are pretty good, but can sometimes crush shadow detail a little bit. Whites are usually on a redder tint out of the box, so you'll have to calibrate a little bit but shouldn't be an issue.

Downsides? Motion blur on the R452 is quite subpar. So if you're sensitive to blurring images in fast scenes, you might be irritated.
Viewing angles are also quite poor, so don't expect a wide field of viewing. If you're using this TV for a bedroom, that shouldn't be an issue though.

Finally, if you can step up another RM300-400 in your budget then your choices open up to the better Sony W674, Panasonic E6 and Samsung E5500.
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post Sep 13 2013, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(lovehatesmisery @ Sep 13 2013, 08:52 PM)
I just bought Sony W674 42" for my room last week. Loving it so far; though I don't know what's the best setting for games. laugh.gif

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My settings for a bedroom:

Game Mode
Backlight: 6 or 7 (6 if I turn off all the lights)
Contrast: 93
Brightness: 49
Color temp: Warm 1
Sharpness: 50
Gamma: -1

White Balance
All default except blue gain at -2, this is to account for setting Clear White at Low

Post process settings
All disabled except - Clear White (Low) and Smooth Gradation (Medium)

Using these settings, I've managed to get delta errors to less than 3 which is the optimal limit for a mid-range LCD LED TV.
Measured gamma point is at 2.38 which is just 0.2 point away from the standard set by ITU and THX as a reference level.

Input lag with these settings is at 19ms (+4ms from an everything disabled 14.5ms W6). Rule of thumb, anything under 30ms is optimal for games, under 20ms is exceptional in today's standards. Many SF4, Blazblue, GG, MvC3 pros play on 40ms HDTVs.

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You can choose to enable Reality Creation (limit it to no more than 35 though) if you want on games which aren't natively at 720p (which sadly, is a lot of PS3 games). This sharpens images across live polys and textures as well, but it does make aliasing pop more.
Reality Creation adds about 15ms of input lag as well. I really only enable it in games where there's an excessive use of AA (again, not many PS3 games sadly).

Hope that helps. smile.gif

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 13 2013, 09:15 PM)
SSJBen why play ps3 on tv also need to do setting?
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To get the best possible image quality. Movies look better, games look better, it's a free benefit so why not go get it?
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post Sep 13 2013, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Sep 13 2013, 11:09 PM)
haha o i c
so is samsung or panasonic or sony better?
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Too vague of a question. You're like asking Merz, BMW or Audi better.
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post Sep 15 2013, 03:53 AM

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No problem, let me know how it goes for you.
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QUOTE(rizal13 @ Jan 23 2014, 12:34 AM)
hi guys,

Just got sony bravia as per link below, but i'm having problem on sync it with PS3 super slim and my laptop as well..its seem like not detecting the device..any idea on how to sync PS3 with this bravia tv..

please advice if u know..thx

http://www.sony.com.my/product/klv-40r452a
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What do you mean by sync? Bravia Sync? If Bravia Sync, you'll have to enable the feature on your PS3 first before you can sync it to the TV.
As for laptop... uhm.. plug and play?
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post Jan 23 2014, 02:48 AM

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QUOTE(rizal13 @ Jan 23 2014, 02:01 AM)
How to enable feature on PS3 1st? Laptop can just plug n play...i try so many time nothing happen when connecting HDMI between laptop and Sony TV.
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PS3 Bravia Sync
http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en...s/ctrlhdmi.html

As for the laptop, if you aren't getting display then that means either:

1) You didn't set the output display to your TV
2) HDMI cable issue
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post Jan 24 2014, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(zororo @ Jan 24 2014, 08:59 AM)
saw this at aeon for 2599.... hmm.gif how much is the leo bodnar score for this ?
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15ms in game mode with all post processing turned off, the same as the W6.

The W6 and the W7 is basically the same TV, only in SEA Sony sells it under 2 different series. Difference only in the size availbility and that the W7 has a long duct speaker instead.
In the US and Europe, they're both under the W6 series.
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post Feb 8 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Feb 8 2015, 11:45 AM)
As I'm focusing on 40" LED, my choices are now narrowed down to
Sony KDL-40W600B
Samsung H6350
Samsung UA40H5552

I couldn't find any usual retailers selling the H6350 though? sad.gif
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Because the H6350 is known as the H6300 in Malaysia. It's a decent TV, except its input lag is a little too high at a rated 46ms in Game mode. You want input lag on TVs to have less than 30ms. Not terrible if you don't plan to play games semi-competitively or very sensitive to input lag.
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post Feb 8 2015, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Feb 8 2015, 03:28 PM)
Couldn't really find any 40" H6300 in retail shops either sad.gif

As I will be using it for movies and sports as well besides gaming, would the H6300 be better than the Sony? I heard the Sony has poor motion blur?

But if the price difference btw both is around RM1k, I might jump on the Sony instead.
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Poor motion blur? Motion blur isn't measured by good or bad, because that's actually quite vague. It's measured by how much. All LCD TVs has a high amount of motion blur, this is a design flaw/limitation and will never be fixed, motion interpolation helps in some certain cases but it's never been a fix.

You want low motion blur, you either go plasma (which you can pick up some of the last remaining Panasonic sets for cheap) or wait for OLED TVs to drop down to reasonable price levels.

 

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