There is a grey 70-200 VR-I, but pretty limited.
And it looks pretty white actually despite being claimed to be grey.

My gut feel tells me it's not gonna be cheap.
Maybe with some luck and a small sum of top up will land u a 70-200 VR1.

Same comment as above. Anyway, in terms of optics, the Nikkors are still ahead.

Lol...yeah, or worst case just train urself to handle it. Before VR ever existed, how did the photogs handle such equipment?

If you do not mind the range, consider the Tokina 11-16 F2.8.
I'm using the 12-24 Toki myself, and Toki built quality is just superb.
The sigma 10-20 is a nice lens too, but the reason why i did not consider it was because of the variable aperture, and also the distortions in the wider angles.

The 20mm is another interesting lens, one that i'd like to have in my arsenal right now. But on a D90,k it just isn't wide enough. If you intend to use it as a walkaround, it'll be nice, but as a landscape lens, maybe you'd enjoy it more if you're using a D700...)

Bro, you sure?
Or it's just an April fool joke from you.
Cz if it's true, i'm gonna call up to order...

LOL...The price drop really caused a purchase spree i suppose...

Yes, agree with shadow111.
Try to reserve with some deposit. Since u already firmed up with the D90, i think it would be fair to place some depo and wait for your D90 to arrive.
And for those who doesn't know, most of the cam shops in PG which are well known are around Komtar, in fact most of em are along the same street...

Actually there is.
Just that normal users might not appreciate it.
Having 51 focus points and a more precise focusing system is a major improvement.
Besides, u get weather sealing, better metering system, a better body ergonomically (Subjective) and also more control buttons.
Image Quality wise, it's said that both comes very close to each other, but there are still a lot of difference on the D300s which D90 users will find it pretty appealing.

Btw, i'd say wait for the D700 replacement if you intend to go FF. The time should come when the D700 gets a facelift or a new FF is introduced.

Bro, iirc, you've been talking about changing into a D90 since ages ago.
So apa lagi, when u gonna logout from here and actually go to the shops to get urs?

Sp00kY, shoo~~~ go play with ur 5D M2...LOL...
These kind of price now, who will want to sell?

If you're new, go on P.
Then learn when u need to use A and S.
As for using M, if you have certain things in mind which is not achievable by using either A or S, only use M.
Using M doesn't make you an expert, nor does it show you're a better photographer.

I have to disagree with you to a certain extent.
First of all, the sharpness of the 1.8@1.8 is sharper than the 1.4 (be it D or G)@1.4.
As you stop down to F/2.8, the 1.8 is still sharper than both the 1.4 in the center, but on the corners the 1.4 does better.
Again as you stop down to F/4, the 1.8 is sharper than the 1.4 in the center, but loses out at the corners.

The reason for one not being able to get a sharp picture with a 50mm F/1.8 is the user problem and not the lens issue.
I've had friends who had taken stunningly sharp images with 50mm F/1.8s at 1.8 wide open, even i sometimes do that myself when i really need F/1.8.
Just remember, the DOF at F/1.8 is really shallow, a lot of times you don't get it sharp because of the shallow DOF and not really because the lens ain't sharp.

Bro, dun blame ur skills.
Like what most of us here do, keep shooting, learning and practising.

Bro, noob here also... Just happen to know about this particular topic cz it had been discussed before among us only.

Haha bro, i know lar...
Forgotten who told me, but the 5D M2 is really a sweet cam. 21MP FF does make a difference...

As what the other forumers adviced u, re-attach your lens.
Maybe you'd want to consider cleaning the lens mount as well.

I use ACR. U can download it for free at Adobe's webbie.

Many claims it's not as sharp, but from what i've tested the sharpness is still very very good for the amount of money you're paying.
The Nikkor 17-55 is definitely a way superior lens, but the price is also way more expensive.

Agreed to a certain extent.

BB, with the VC at 50mm, 1/4s, 10 out of 10 shot spot on. Just like how the VRII can do 1/15 @200mm easily...

Finally you got it...
Welcome to the club!!!

Well, if you're looking for a camera, get the D90.
If you want video, get the 550D.

Regarding the AF motor question, it is true that new lenses are AF-S now and comes with motor, but they do come at higher prices too.
So for people like me who couldn't afford an AF-S 70-200 VR II, getting the D90 with the 80-200 might be the bext choice for me.

celciuz, nicely done pieces there...
I'd prefer to slightly overexpose as well for portraits and the reason you've mentioned earlier.
And for your pics, it's just nice on both my calibrated screens, doesn't really look too much over, just nice.

Btw, for creamy bokeh, KTCY, remember the 105 DC we tested, damn that's one of the most poisonous portrait lens ever built...
If you can find the 135, thats even better.
But currently, i'm happy with the loaned 85 F/1.8 in my drybox...The bokeh is still fantastic eventhough not as good as the 1.4...

Oh ya, isepunya, if u expect creamy bokeh at the range of 17-50, u better hope u have something <1.4, for anything at 2.8, it just wouldn't really work...

Before the 1.2, lets just wait for the 85 F/1.4 VR which is due to release soon, that i believe will be another extremely poisonous lens...

Guys, looks ok on my screen...Shoulder is properly visible, but maybe burn it a little bit might be better since many commented on that.

BB, what screen u using to view this? I used both my LCD and my lappie also no problem lar...Or maybe it's time for me to re-calibrate my screens liao???

Helped you do some minor PP-ing to the pic, hope you dun mind.
Basically, just a little bit of sharpening and playing with the curves.

Here's the outcome:


The lizard is your subject, so try to make it stand out as much as possible from the background.
Besides, the pic is a tad too soft, try to unsharp mask it a little and you'll find that it makes a hell lot of difference.

LOL...Bro, the 200mm F2 is legendary, the bokeh, and also the price...LOL...
But if i could choose the best portrait lens, it will be between the 135 DC or the 200 F2.

Btw bro, UGPM...

I got mine for RM460 back then when it was just launched.
But beware of counterfeits, there r a lot of fake lowepros out there.
If you do not know how to spot one, always bring someone who knows how to help you check.
Insist on seeing the actual thing before you buy it, dun just trust one or 2 photos online.

Which is sharper, first it all depends on how you define sharp.
Sharp across the frame? Sharp at the center of the frame?

The F/1.4 is a sharper lens across the frame at almost all apertures (up to F8), though it might lose out in terms of center sharpness.
The F/1.8 is a sharper when center sharpness comes into consideration, but well, you sacrifice the corners.

The hand part, that is where you have to practise more on your composition.

BB, still got opening?