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jagung
post Jan 26 2011, 04:27 PM

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Hi guys.. need your viewpoint on this...
I've been itching to get the 1) Acer revo 3700 which is the DC Atom ION 2 based PC.. After googling around found out that there are alternatives for better and cheaper HTPC setup.

2) Asrock Vision 3D or HT100 PC.. running on i3 (barebone costs RM1400 and above )
3) Custom build mini itx, gigabyte motherboard (GA-E350N-USB3) that supports AMD fusion which is an APU.. not available in the market yet..

What this 3 have in common is the form factor .. its small and suitable for my living room... lower power consumption and noise level is also one of the reasons

Of the 3, I'm leaning towards the 3rd option which is the AMD fusion which performs much better than the ion2 but not more than the i3.. the price malaysia is not out yet and i'm guessing the cost to build should be similar to acer's 3700 or atom ion based motherboards.

http://semiaccurate.com/2011/01/03/gigabyt...mini-itx-board/

Appreciate any suggestions and opinions on this ..
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post Jan 27 2011, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 27 2011, 10:37 AM)
hi..
what abt the Dell Zino mini's?
The one that has ATI HD5450 / AMD Phenomâ„¢ II X3 P840 Triple-Core Processor / 1TB Sata / 4GB (1X4GB) DDR3  demand ~$2000  .  What would be the price if you were to build this spec on your own?
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Thanks for the suggestion, lets discuss this...
Price wise. The RRP for the Asus E35M1-I Deluxe AMD Fusion Motherboard cost around RM600 .. the heatsink looks more canggih than the gigabyte mb mentioned earlier
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Asus-E35M1-...pe-179019.shtml

4gb ram and Harddisk should be more or less RM500
Mini itx case and power supply should be around RM350
So total iz RM1450..buffer abit shud be around RM1500 ~ RM1600. Whats missing is the optical drive, monitor/keyboard..

In comparison between this build and Zino
The Zacate E-350 APU is powered by two 1.6GHz Bobcat cores, features Radeon HD 6310 on-die graphics - Processor wise i think the zino conquers but graphics side..
Five SATA 6Gbps ports, one eSATA connector, a PCI-Express 16x - Slightly future proof, since the graphic performance is limited by the discrete fusion processor upgrading to a more canggih card on PCI slot would defeat the purpose. extra sata for harddisk upgrade which the Zino doesn't have
USB 3.0 - Zino only USB 2.0






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post Jan 27 2011, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 27 2011, 11:53 AM)
cool Jagung!

future expansion is critical..

If the Mini itx case can be as 'tiny' as Zino, perhaps your choice would be the ideal one1
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I doubt it could be built to be as tiny as the Zino.. due to the harddrive/optical bays.. but certainly smallest custom build PC in its category, other similar or tinier are ready made barebone HTPCs like Asrock, Acer, Shuttle and etc.



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post Jan 27 2011, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jan 27 2011, 01:45 PM)
which itx casing are you targetting ?
http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3
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So far..have not really found "the one" yet.. there are so many varieties to choose from..but opt for quality (full aluminum) than price..

If budget permits it should be one of those Silverstone or Lianli cases

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post Jan 28 2011, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(lightastral @ Jan 27 2011, 09:04 PM)
its a nice case. im using that with zotac 9300 -g- e.
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nice bro.. envy u ..

how much did it cost to setup your rig ? particularly the chassis and the mb
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post Jan 31 2011, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(PaeseSono @ Jan 31 2011, 05:39 PM)
Can i join this thread? tongue.gif
Just got my mini itx system last 3 weeks  biggrin.gif
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Free world bro..

Curios to know .. what is ur machine specs ?
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post Feb 1 2011, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(PaeseSono @ Feb 1 2011, 04:27 PM)


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post Feb 14 2011, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(SnoWFisH @ Feb 13 2011, 10:16 AM)
Need help on XBMC, nobody on the xbmc forums could help so i hope you guys can  icon_question.gif

I'm using XBMC to play back MKV files with embedded subs (and also external ass & srt files) and they seem to appear all over the screen (Top, left, right, bottom of screen). They seem to be squeezed and flattened as well, making them unreadable. Any idea whats going on? I have already reformatted my XP machine but still same problem.

OS: Windows XP Pro 32 bit
XBMC version : 10.0
Shark codec installed. Tried k-lite but same problem.

Tried the video file in MPC and VLC, no problem.

I face no problem in using XBMC with my win7 notebook though. It plays beautifully on it.

And XBMC always freezes when I try to search at network drives (SMB).

Any ideas?  icon_question.gif

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I already tried video calibration but no difference.
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hmm.gif ... i've been using xbmc quite awhile now.. i've played mkv files with it before and have not encountered problems with the subs...

Does the problem happen in general to all your mkv videos ? have u tried with another mkv video different ripper/subber.. some mkvs come embedded with subs.. u might want to try removing those srts when using embedded or reverse...

Try removing those codec packs and re-install xbmc.. i never install these codec packs... the standard xbmc is able to play all files without them

Im using version 10 as well, but i might have watched my mkv files on a earlier version ... trying downgrading to version 9..

Let us know the result...

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post Feb 23 2011, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(TechMy @ Feb 23 2011, 01:52 PM)
My HTPC Rig
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Lian Li Q07
Intel e5300
Zotac 9300
Silverstone PSU
Corsair xms2 4gb
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Bro..How much u bought ur case Lianli ?

Any issues detected ?
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post Feb 23 2011, 06:46 PM

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nice...

Looks really tiny case... q07 successor is the q11.. thinking of getting it .. should be the same size...

from your pic it really looks small .. is ur monitor model syncmaster b2230 ? i might be using the same as yours..trying to estimate the size of it...
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post Feb 26 2011, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(numbertwo @ Feb 23 2011, 10:21 PM)
jagung, is you project undergoing  , decided ?  pls share your to-be spec? maybe i would like to join the bandwagon too..
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Sorry for late reply just got back from overseas. My to be spec is simple.. just to share some great programs im using.
XBMC will be my main media center, best media center ever...tried media portal but not as good... xbmc is much more simpler and prettier in my opinion... get boxee if u prefer an alternative.
Utorrent with Dropbox if i ever need to queue a torrent file remotely from my office...google this if u need a step by step guide.
The Renamer. Great program to automatically rename ur video files individually or by batch..

Now for my rig.. im looking at 2 possibilities.. either the AMD fusion or Intel Sandy Bridge.. to compare both
Sandy (Asus P8H67-I DELUXE) would be an overkill for what i only need..but i don't mind looking pass the high price tag but for its faster and upgradeable CPU...definitely great for games.. delayed due to flaws on earlier chipset.. who knows when exactly its gonna reach Malaysia...

Fusion (Asus E35M1-I DELUXE) would be value for money, plus i really like the heatsink from Asus...it would definitely make a very quiet HTPC...the downside is to forget about upgrading to a better graphics card or playing high end games, I have a PS3 i doubt i would. With an empty PCI slot, i can only think of adding in a sound card.. Someone posted earlier about HD audio pass through, according to another forum the answer is yes..I was told by Asus Malaysia that its already available in our market , but i have not seen resellers selling them yet, I'm arranging to get it directly from Asus...

Then again with sandy i would need to rethink on the type of chassis and room in it to dissipate the heat, its going to be hot if i my plan is to fit in 2 x 2TB 3.5" HDDs, fusion would fit perfectly on any type of chassis. There are so many chassis but so few to choose from.. but i've shortlisted a few which is Lian-li PC-Q08 or PC-Q11 and Silverstone SG05.

Eventually this baby its gonna be hooked up to a Onkyo AVR (HT-S3300).
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post May 5 2011, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(eteractive @ May 4 2011, 11:56 PM)
Hi, I'm new here. Would like to have HTPC for my new place.

1. GIGABYTE E350N-USB3 FUSION or ASUS E35M1-M PRO - Is the processor and video built-in is fast and capable of viewing full HD movies (MKV)?
2. 2GB DDR3 RAM?
3. HDD - any disk space
4. CASING - any nice casing, maybe Silverstone
5. COOLMASTER FAN- required?

Anything that I'm missing? I need to make sure that the videos played are in smooth condition.

Also, any recommendation on sound system?

Thanks!
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Im currently using a similar setup.. great budget HTPC. no problems so far.. works great with XBMC.. 24hrs running my downloads.

ASUS E35M1-M PRO
8GB RAM
2 TB HDD
Silverstone ML03
CM 650 extreme powersupply

If you are getting the ML03 you might consider getting additional case fans.. at first i did not put any case fans.. temperature was around 51-56 .. after mounting a big fan on the ML03 that has vented holes on the top case cover(pulls) and smaller fans on the side vents(push).. drop to 41-43..

Definately noise level increased but.. you can tweak the fan speed with AI suite.. have not got the time to do so..

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post May 6 2011, 04:34 PM

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With HTPC... the benefits definitely outweighs media player

With the media players your stuck with the stock interface...some players might look really nice, compact, sleek.. but when it comes to interface kinda dull and boring.

If u are talking geeky..there are many interfaces that are family friendly like XBMC..
with XBMC you can tweak, download new skins and customize ur layouts easily..

Bored with XBMC.. download another software..

Freedom is the key...


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post May 6 2011, 05:53 PM

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Yea..auto movie scraping works 80% of the time.. i usually do a manual scrape in XBMC or use Ember to manually scrape (much more tedious).

http://code.google.com/p/embermediamanager/
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post May 10 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(jamkuwong @ May 10 2011, 01:35 PM)
Hi, intend to get a HTPC as above. May I know where to buy? Can I get all those in one shop @ Lowyat? My budget would be RM 1000. Is it enough? Any recommended shop? Thanks in advance.
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Go CZONE lowayt. Not the cheapest but u can get everything there.

Around 1k can.. instead of 8gb ram/2tb hdd ..4gb/1tb shud be enough
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post Oct 10 2011, 01:06 PM

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Hi Guys..

Need some recommendation on a silent / fanless PSU for HTPC

My HTPC setup
Silverstone ML03
Asus E35m1-m pro
2TB WD green x 2
8gb ram
OS W7 4bit
Cooler master extreme 550w (planning to replace)

I've been very satisfied with this setup for the past 7 months, mainly using it for XBMC and light surfing on my 42" lcd tv in the living room.

Recently i've been noticing increase of fan noise from the PSU.. im not sure if the noise level has always been like that or simply my hearing has improved tongue.gif ...

Been looking around in lowyat and best i could find is the Seasonic silence from Czone retailing at RM180.. but it still has a fan and would run during peak usage

Also found on the web another model from Season x-400 which is fanless 500w.. price range is high and not sold in Malaysia yet.

My concern here is my casing ML03 might not have sufficient airflow to dissipate the heat from a fanless PSU

Anyone with experience on using the silent psu or fanless ?


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post Oct 10 2011, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Oct 10 2011, 02:28 PM)
my spec...
msi e350ia-e45
8gb ram
1tb samsung hdd
coolermaster elite360 casing with power supply
not really silent cuz can hear hdd loading sound
surprisingly never heard any sound from cpu unless i put my ear next to the casing
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Im using WD Green hdd.. It's quiet during boot up and especially when loading huge 1080 mkv files ..

maybe u can try switching to WD green..

or maybe the noise is caused by the vibration from the hdd to your casing, try using silicone washer and screw to dampen the vibrating.. my ML03 casing comes with these screws and washer.
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post Oct 10 2011, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(kenjixx @ Oct 10 2011, 05:05 PM)
i see... maybe i should spend some money on a SSD then boot up will be super silent
and btw you can try to ask at hardware Q&A for recommendation
people there are more helpful on this kind of question biggrin.gif
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Yup i totally agree with you SSD will definitely eliminate the noise issue..price, capacity, performance difference for SSD compared HDD just to eliminate noise issue kinda overkilling it right sweat.gif
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post Oct 11 2011, 11:18 AM

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Yes i agree with you, for fanless airflow is important

For my case its definitely noise coming from power supply because my MB asus e350m1-m pro uses passive cooling for the cpu...

The noise level from my psu feels like a hair dryer at low speed.. really regret getting this cooler master extreme psu

How long have you been using the Xigmatek ?...

The cooler master that i got wasn't that noisy for the first few months...
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post Oct 11 2011, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(peter32 @ Oct 11 2011, 12:24 PM)
Stan, quite recently I disccused the cpu fan noise issue with other forumner, and he intro Noctua NH-C12P SE14 replacing my stock cpu cooling unit.

Although the Noctua do come with 14' noctua fan, i actually install the cooler without the fan, and it can sustain the temperature very well with or without fan, even if I stress the cpu with 100% load test.

You may want to look into the noctua cpu cooler itself.


Added on October 11, 2011, 12:26 pmJagung, I saw the silverstone casing photo online, and notice that the psu area do not come with top ventilation for the PSU.  Maybe thats the reason the PSU fan has to go at top speed to cool it.
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Casing do have vents but at the bottom.. my PSU fan is also at the bottom ..but the clearance from vent to table is quite narrow... IMO even though narrow (half inch clearance to the table) PSU bottom fan intakes air in and air is extracted at the back vents

You just gave me an idea... i want to try removing the casings bottom mash vents ..maybe the vents are restricting air intake

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