QUOTE(paskal @ Nov 18 2010, 04:11 PM)
wow lots and lots of opinions. this is good, that is no good. that one have this advantage, this one have that advantage. sure gonna make possible adopters turn away from the whole htpc idea.
1. if you want an absolutely fuss free playback platform, GET A DUNE. a htpc ain't for everyone.
2. if you're concerned about 23.976Hz playback and jitter on a htpc, GET A DUNE. no matter what type of graphics card you use, THERE WILL BE JITTER. yes ATi 5XXX card included (not only i3 IGP). and quite possibly any nVidia GC too. a PC uses multiple clock reference unlike a media player that could lock all its clock to a single clock generator. a PC have different clock reference for audio, video, cpu, northbrigde, southbridge and all that crap. and the OS manage everything, usually trying to sync everything to the CPU clock. an impossible feat at best for a software to sync a hardware clock to one another. YOU NEED TO USE RECLOCK.
3. some people won't notice motion jitter. a lot won't. i never noticed it when i was running on my LCD. because LCD just don't have that fast of a response rate. jitter is a dead giveaway after i installed my 50" full hd plasma. and mind you, ATi have a perfect 24p (23.976Hz) refresh rate. even then motion jitter is hugely noticeable on the new screen. refer above for reason.
4. AMD CPU generally have lots more heat dissipation compared to Intel CPU.
5. multicore CPU have even more heat.
6. most decoder can't properly make use of multiple core to decode video. ffdshow used to be one of it. no idea whether it has trickled down to the stable releases. only nightly builds used to have such capability. want low CPU usage (and make use of multiple core to decode) ? use CoreAVC.
7. if core i3 internal graphics processor sucks for you, you could always plug in another GC into it. why yes it's possible. the internal GPU will be disabled.
8. there's no non-IGP equipped core i3 because the IGP is integrated inside the CPU. so there's no i3 mainboard that don't have internal graphics because it's inside the CPU. wait i already said that.
9. DXVA hardware acceleration is implemented in most new GPU architecture. intel IGP, ATI, nVidia all have them. if hardware acc is hugely important for you, it'd be good to know that your choice aren't only limited to nvidia ion.
10. do forget the atom platform if you could pay the electric bill. because not all movies are encoded to allow for DXVA acceleration. you still need pure CPU processing power for some rare occasion. atom don't have that.
can't remember other questions.
but for someone that wants an absolute fuss free playback, i would seriously suggest the DUNE.
and echohesian, the motion deblocking problem with core i3 during DXVA acceleration could be cured by simply using the Microsoft DTD decoder that came with Windows 7. or maybe you could try CoreAVC. not free though. ffdshow still have this deblocking problem on i3. probably have to wait till either ffdshow new version or intel fix it with a new driver. try the ffdshow nightly builds just in case.
p/s: just drove for 6 hours so do forgive the crankiness
Added on November 18, 2010, 4:14 pmshi* i just messed up jitter with judder. not motion jitter, motion judder.
easy bro, dont get pissed...
wat a good reply u hv there..
1. perhaps will get a DUNE or other media player in future. but i cannot foresee when yet.
so now i will use PC as a HTPC also. where it allows me to perform paperwork, BT, entertainment, some light softwares usage those stuff...
2. since ATI do hv jitter, i think i might juz stick to IGP will do.
3. i do attach to FULL HD LCD TV sometime. that is one of the reason i build tis PC. but not always. most of the time i will be using it with a FULL HD monitor..probably in the future i will get another FULL HD TV to connect to it.
4. i heard some other forumer says nowadays AMD can be running cooler than an INTEL proc. well...i never tested.
5. based on previous comment, i3's IGP should hv no prob on handling FULL HD video. if it does, the i might need to opt for an discrete GPU. of course, i would prefer not to spending money again on decoding HD video.
6. i think if need to utilise the IGP, need to pair with either H55/H57 board only rite? as other boards if paired up then the IGP cannot be used and need to get a discrete GPU instead.
7. for that rare occasion of cannot use DXVA, i think it has no choice as discrete GPU also wont help either too.
so from all the conclusion, i think i3 still suits me for my need.
but now another dilemma arised...
to buy i3 or wait for sandy bridge?
one thing i afraid is when sandy bridge is released, then the current cpu line up might increase their prices....
like DDR2 is more expensive than DDR3...
Added on November 18, 2010, 5:36 pmQUOTE(calvin_ng @ Nov 18 2010, 05:20 PM)
in that case... why not just get a DUNE it is way better and much more flexible...
but since you wanted a htpc... and since you wanted to customize 1...
I would advise you to take a discreet graphics get a Nvidia 210 or 310
or Ati 5450 it is cheap and made for HTPC...
yeah, but with DUNE i cannot do word processing, light software usage like photoshop those....which i need also...
so as per bro paskal said, if IGP really disappoint me. then ATI 5000 series is the way.
Nvidia still cannot bitstream rite?
This post has been edited by cougar richard: Nov 18 2010, 05:36 PM 
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