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post Mar 18 2010, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 18 2010, 05:33 PM)
no offence, but that is a failed logic.
you do know there's a graphics card that support both HDMI and HD bitstreaming. why you still wanna get something that lack one over the other?
rclxub.gif You're right, its just needs a better software to decode.. whistling.gif

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post Mar 18 2010, 06:06 PM

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Just curious , seriously you guys want DTS HD and HD audio out. Even the current 5.1 is good enough and yet some of us want full HD output for it. Anyway as long its digital and 5.1 and its HD , for me I'm okay with it.


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post Mar 18 2010, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 18 2010, 06:06 PM)
Just curious , seriously you guys want DTS HD and HD audio out. Even the current 5.1 is good enough and yet some of us want full HD output for it. Anyway as long its digital and 5.1 and its HD , for me I'm okay with it.
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some could hear the difference, some don't. like comparing mp3 to FLAC/APE.
most people can't hear the difference and are satisfied enough playing 192kbps mp3.
some on the other hand, hear a lot of difference between those two.
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post Mar 18 2010, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 18 2010, 06:06 PM)
Just curious , seriously you guys want DTS HD and HD audio out. Even the current 5.1 is good enough and yet some of us want full HD output for it. Anyway as long its digital and 5.1 and its HD , for me I'm okay with it.
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Turns out most people cant actually differentiate, but from a POV of a geeky person like most of us here (LYN), it appears that we always want the best in terms of hardware regardless the necessity..

It's sad I am running my HTPC at stereo..

I have a question, izzit possible to convert spdif into coaxial or optical?
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 18 2010, 07:10 PM)
Turns out most people cant actually differentiate, but from a POV of a geeky person like most of us here (LYN), it appears that we always want the best in terms of hardware regardless the necessity..

It's sad I am running my HTPC at stereo..

I have a question, izzit possible to convert spdif into coaxial or optical?
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IINM, SPDIF IS transmitted over coaxial. SPDIF is the codec used, and could be transmitted over coax or optical.
SPDIF is a stereo codec
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post Mar 18 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 18 2010, 07:19 PM)
IINM, SPDIF IS transmitted over coaxial. SPDIF is the codec used, and could be transmitted over coax or optical.
SPDIF is a stereo codec
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SPDIF can transmit 5.1 surround sound because it's compressed format.
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Guess a HDMI AVR is almost a must nowadays.. I have no complain regarding my current AVR except it only support coaxial and optical.. it's even difficult to find a slim profile soundcard..
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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 18 2010, 05:33 PM)
not currently. will be buying one in the near future.
why you ask?
Ok. I thought u already have it. So want ask ur experience using it. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 18 2010, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 18 2010, 05:33 PM)

and IMHO PQ for movie playback are not affected by which GC you have in the system. you could be running Intel GMA and still get the best PQ (if your CPU powerful enough to software decode the video)
My experience says there is a difference. I was using Nvidia 7100 IGP then switched to discrete Nvidia GT210.... big difference in colour and everything else....
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QUOTE(prasys @ Mar 18 2010, 06:06 PM)
Just curious , seriously you guys want DTS HD and HD audio out. Even the current 5.1 is good enough and yet some of us want full HD output for it. Anyway as long its digital and 5.1 and its HD , for me I'm okay with it.
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Last time I also feel DD5.1 is good enough until I try to hear HD audio (TrueHD/DTS-HD). My ears can hear a different. Right now because I always hear HD audio then I know current/normal audio not very good enough. nod.gif


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QUOTE(cosmicmeadow @ Mar 18 2010, 11:42 PM)
My experience says there is a difference. I was using Nvidia 7100 IGP then switched to discrete Nvidia GT210.... big difference in colour and everything else....
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there is a difference in PQ when watching movie?
guess i gotta have to plug my PCI-e GC to test it out. i'm sure i left it in a drawer somewhere
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post Mar 19 2010, 12:55 AM

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Just finish configure Shark007 Windows 7 codec + its x64 components on my freshly installed Windows 7 x64.

Actually, I don't know what is the problem with my current setup because the same codec I installed in my Acer 4740 (i5 430m laptop), it work just fine without any configuration. However, with my i3 530 system, WMP failed to play the video. It just show green screen with sound at the background. So after playing with a few setting, this is the best setting I have. I don't know if it use hardware acceleration or not but my cpu utilization barely reach 20%.

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At first, I just try to enable "Use FFDshow DXVA codec" and it play wonderfully with very low cpu utilization (hardly reach 10%) but if subtitle is enable, the picture behind the subtitle will be jagged.

BTW, if compare to my old e8400 system, current system is much colder than before. The CPU temp is only 35C for current if compare to 50C for e8400. Plus, it only running using stock HSF.

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anyone know how to autostart XBMC when booting up the pc?

not via windows startup or adding things in the registry smile.gif

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post Mar 19 2010, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Mar 18 2010, 09:51 PM)
Guess a HDMI AVR is almost a must nowadays.. I have no complain regarding my current AVR except it only support coaxial and optical.. it's even difficult to find a slim profile soundcard..
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same situation also. we cannot get slim profile hdmi sound card but now we can get entry level ATi 5xxx that have low profile available. bingo..
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post Mar 19 2010, 11:51 AM

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Looking for cheapest mobo...my requirement..
-mini-itx
-play 1080p & BD
-cheaper solution compared to dual ATOM + ION...
I just dont know what mobo to use. Cracking my head already searching LYN for it..
Any mobo price approx at 200-300 (exc. processor) with chipset able to meet my requirement?
Thanks.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:11 PM

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my upcoming setup = 32' led tv, bluray player, htpc and a pioneer home theater look like this

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pls guide me on how to connect the wire?
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:34 PM

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Until now, I have using mobo sound card and video chip from the 785 series, it works perfectly. I use the optical audio output from the mobo and decode with my AVR (NAD T763), other than some software tweak to make digital SPDIF output as standard in software side, I don't have any problem decoding the sound from the BD disc.

Except one problem. It can't decode Lossless HD sound. But it can play DTS HD sound from the BD disc, and played flawlessly.

Can I tell the difference between those DTS or HD DTS? I don't think so, but to be honest, we will need a blindfold test in order to know. Its not fair to comment without proper test environment.

Lossless HD audio can only be transmitted via HDMI cable to the AVR that has such connection. My AVR is old style DTS ES etc.. no hdmi.
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post Mar 19 2010, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(xsi @ Mar 19 2010, 11:51 AM)
Looking for cheapest mobo...my requirement..
-mini-itx
-play 1080p & BD
-cheaper solution compared to dual ATOM + ION...
I just dont know what mobo to use. Cracking my head already searching LYN for it..
Any mobo price approx at 200-300 (exc. processor) with chipset able to meet my requirement?
Thanks.
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already check Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX WiFi Motherboard ?
you prefer intel or amd? for mini-itx, Zotac are quite popular brand.

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post Mar 19 2010, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Mar 19 2010, 01:48 PM)
already check Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX WiFi Motherboard ?
you prefer intel or amd? for mini-itx, Zotac are quite popular brand.
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Bro,
thanks for the reply.
I dont mind intel of AMD....most importantly is the cost... blush.gif
Zotac is quite on the high side (in term of price), right?
I was thinking MSI or anything equivalent, but not sure whether it is available or not....
so far if found nothing when searching here...
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post Mar 19 2010, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(xsi @ Mar 19 2010, 02:24 PM)
Bro,
thanks for the reply.
I dont mind intel of AMD....most importantly is the cost... blush.gif
Zotac is quite on the high side (in term of price), right?
I was thinking MSI or anything equivalent, but not sure whether it is available or not....
so far if found nothing when searching here...
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maybe you can consider micro-ATX, more room for upgrading. In future you can add some video capture card for Astro or TV Recording. hmm.gif

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