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post Mar 13 2010, 05:39 PM, updated 16y ago

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Just wondering, have anyone tested out the playback of Bluray disc on a HTPC????

I read somewhere that a good Bluray Rom will out do a ps3 in terms of Bluray playback. But is this true???ps3 owners??
The main point is, Can a Bluray Rom on a HTPC out do, or maybe match the quality of Bluray playback from a bluray player/ps3????

If it can, how much is the quality difference? Thinking of buying a Bluray rom, but in a dilemma of getting a PS3 too.


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post Mar 13 2010, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
Just wondering, have anyone tested out the playback of Bluray disc on a HTPC????

I read somewhere that a good Bluray Rom will out do a ps3 in terms of Bluray playback. But is this true???ps3 owners??
The main point is, Can a Bluray Rom on a HTPC out do, or maybe match the quality of Bluray playback from a bluray player/ps3????

If it can, how much is the quality difference? Thinking of buying a Bluray rom, but in a dilemma of getting a PS3 too.
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I used to have PS3 (once upon a time), connected to Toshiba Regza FULL HD 42'. PQ is awesome , 1080p is awesome , either games or Blu-ray movies. I still can recall watching The Eye (Jessica Alba), on blu-ray.. fantastic PQ , AQ is just simply mind blowing..

But once my PS3 era gone away..i swithced to HTPC , provided with Sony Blu-ray BDU X10S. Watching on my Acer FULL HD monitor, still no differences apart from ROM does not have audio output, output from Soundcard obviously..

So, i think it depends how you gonna enjoy the fun, either PS3 / ROM on HTPC, also if you have extra $ get Blu-ray ROM and Logitech 5.1 Speaker with Optical output or PS3 with Logitech 5.1 Speaker (Optical output)...forgotten the model name..

So...we are whom to choose what we want..now choose..
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post Mar 13 2010, 08:41 PM

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I've got both, and they both got awesome pictures, the only advantage of HTPC I can think of is you can tune the colour of the picture to reference standard without additional box such as dvdo duo or lumagen.
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QUOTE(taqies @ Mar 13 2010, 08:41 PM)
I've got both, and they both got awesome pictures, the only advantage of HTPC I can think of is you can tune the colour of the picture to reference standard without additional box such as dvdo duo or lumagen.
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The one problem with a HTPC is that most ATI or Nvidia cards have some form of problem or the other. Some do not pass Blacker than Black some Whiter than White. These are not important since u can still setup brightness and contrast. My main problem with the graphic cards is the inconsistent gamma performance. You either got to crush blacks or settle for a bad gamma curve. As you said, u can use some transformation to get the colour points on target, but gamma remains an issue.
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yes, i m thinking of setting up a htpc also , as bd-rom / ati 5 series is much more affordable now and can play arguably unlimited ripped format too so long as u get the rite codec , just that the disadvantage is the hassle of setting up, booting, tweaking and maybe the infamous bsod...
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 13 2010, 05:39 PM)
Just wondering, have anyone tested out the playback of Bluray disc on a HTPC????

I read somewhere that a good Bluray Rom will out do a ps3 in terms of Bluray playback. But is this true???ps3 owners??
The main point is, Can a Bluray Rom on a HTPC out do, or maybe match the quality of Bluray playback from a bluray player/ps3????

If it can, how much is the quality difference? Thinking of buying a Bluray rom, but in a dilemma of getting a PS3 too.
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If you thinking of playing game with HD mode....PS3 was the perfect choice....
i think PS3 can do more then HTPC...m i right... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 14 2010, 06:47 AM)
If you thinking of playing game with HD mode....PS3 was the perfect choice....
i think PS3 can do more then HTPC...m i right... hmm.gif
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PC graphics are much far superior then PS3, for console lovers , they can opt for PS3, in terms of playing blu-ray tru HTPC is still considered budget setup..
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post Mar 14 2010, 07:51 AM

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Below RM500 you can get HTPC and you can enjoy HD movies but for game maniac,ps3 is the right choice
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QUOTE(VSX-AX2as @ Mar 14 2010, 07:51 AM)
Below RM500 you can get HTPC and you can enjoy HD movies but for game maniac,ps3 is the right choice
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RM500? you must be joking..My HTPC cost at least RM1.9k to setup..we are talking about Home Theater Personal Computer, and not media player!
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The Ati HD 5-series cards along is more than RM500. laugh.gif
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post Mar 14 2010, 08:24 AM

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hey sKyWiR3pT3lTd, wats yr HTPC's specs? cerita abit le
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post Mar 14 2010, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(VSX-AX2as @ Mar 14 2010, 07:51 AM)
Below RM500 you can get HTPC and you can enjoy HD movies but for game maniac,ps3 is the right choice
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For a game maniac, owning all consoles and HTPC should be mandatory. Definitely can't get HTPC for under RM500.
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 14 2010, 08:24 AM)
hey sKyWiR3pT3lTd, wats yr HTPC's specs? cerita abit le
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You can check the HTPC V2 thread for my spec. Starters spec. I haven't had time to customize further..
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post Mar 14 2010, 12:15 PM

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saw on utube, some dude checking playback of bluray on ps3 and bluray on bluray rom.

apparently the bluray rom has better playback then the ps3

anyone no owns a bluray rom??? hows the performance of a bluray rom on htpc???
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 14 2010, 12:15 PM)
saw on utube, some dude checking playback of bluray on ps3 and bluray on bluray rom.

apparently the bluray rom has better playback then the ps3

anyone no owns a bluray rom??? hows the performance of a bluray rom on htpc???
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Sony BDU X10S mine, loads faster, detects any type of Disc, rips movies faster than DVD RW, and of course , plays Blu-ray movie with the help of 3rd party Movie playback software..like PowerDVD9, Corel WinDVD10 etc..
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post Mar 14 2010, 12:44 PM

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wont it spoil your BD Rom lense, if u use it to read normal DvDs??? is it meant to mix??

and hows the playback? is it smooth?
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 14 2010, 12:44 PM)
wont it spoil your BD Rom lense, if u use it to read normal DvDs??? is it meant to mix??

and hows the playback? is it smooth?
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I dont read other than Blu-ray disc on BD ROM. When i first bought it , i just tested..thats it...never run other than Blu-ray disc, Sony known for sensitivity issue..even my first ROM stopped playing , cause i tried to play DVD, but luckily got warranty claim on the spot cause lense spoiled..

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 12:23 PM)
Sony BDU X10S mine, loads faster, detects any type of Disc, rips movies faster than DVD RW, and of course , plays Blu-ray movie with the help of 3rd party Movie playback software..like PowerDVD9, Corel WinDVD10 etc..
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Can we bitstream HD audio (TrueHD/DTS-HD) with BD-ROM?
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QUOTE(minimize @ Mar 14 2010, 01:21 PM)
Can we bitstream HD audio (TrueHD/DTS-HD) with BD-ROM?
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You bitstream through your Sound card not BDROM.. BD-rom doesnt have the audio connector , it all comes from your soundcard to the AVR etc..
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 07:40 AM)
PC graphics are much far superior then PS3, for console lovers , they can opt for PS3, in terms of playing blu-ray tru HTPC is still considered budget setup..
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Ps3 for only RM1299 and HTPC RM1.9K.......budget set up.... hmm.gif
maybe for pc monitor it will superior...what about if we connect to LCD tv or plasma...?
maybe you have explaination...coz i never experience about HTPC
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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 14 2010, 05:12 PM)
Ps3 for only RM1299 and HTPC RM1.9K.......budget set up.... hmm.gif
maybe for pc monitor it will superior...what about if we connect to LCD tv or plasma...?
maybe you have explaination...coz i never experience about HTPC
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I've only tested once on Toshiba Regza RV600E FULL HD, full resolution , watched blu-ray through my BD-ROM , awesome..

1.3 k , but how much the games cost you?.. Blu-ray disc doesnt cost you that pricey cost like PS3 games..

So, its definitely a budget setup however..
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post Mar 14 2010, 06:22 PM

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but for htpc how to enjoy dts hd? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(norazwan79 @ Mar 14 2010, 06:22 PM)
but for htpc how to enjoy dts hd? hmm.gif
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Find a sound card which can stream DTS-HD-MA, (Lossless better), or plug your AVR to soundcard and output from AVR..which is compatible with 5.1 , 7.1 etc
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 05:25 PM)
I've only tested once on Toshiba Regza RV600E FULL HD, full resolution , watched blu-ray through my BD-ROM , awesome..

1.3 k , but how much the games cost you?.. Blu-ray disc doesnt cost you that pricey cost like PS3 games..

So, its definitely a budget setup however..
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ya it make sense...
for me game not a big problem i buy only high rating game ...
hmm.gif 2nd hand game cheap wat... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 14 2010, 08:01 PM)
ya it make sense...
for me game not a big problem i buy only high rating game ...
hmm.gif  2nd hand game cheap wat... tongue.gif
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Cool, then your a safe card player then..btw.. I heard there some soundcards that coming out in DTS HD ..not sure which SC's..
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it means u dont need to perfectly good soundcard, if u have good 5.1/7.1 speakers?

hmmss
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 07:40 AM)
PC graphics are much far superior then PS3, for console lovers , they can opt for PS3, in terms of playing blu-ray tru HTPC is still considered budget setup..
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PC gfx is superior, so what? My PC set up is about rm20-30k but PC games still suck coz even after spending so much money, the game still lags on my puny little 30" monitor n we're still at the mercy of Microsoft Windows n it's perennial crashes. Some games like Microsoft's very own big game like Gears Of War won't even start after installation.

PS3 game is guaranteed super smooth experience. Just put the game in n play. Best thing is, I'm sitting in a super comfy lounge chair with wireless controller in hand n gaming at 1080p on a 60" screen in my living room. Can even call friends over for some havoc with multi player FIFA session. Try that with a PC. Best thing is, the PS3 set up costs only half of my PC set up.


QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 05:25 PM)
I've only tested once on Toshiba Regza RV600E FULL HD, full resolution , watched blu-ray through my BD-ROM , awesome..

1.3 k , but how much the games cost you?.. Blu-ray disc doesnt cost you that pricey cost like PS3 games..

So, its definitely a budget setup however..
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PS3 games cost about the same as PC games. What r u talking about?
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For PC user, normally they custom the pc setup for movie&gaming purpose, as for game console supporter, no need to think about the intel/AMD, motherboard, ram,graphic card..etc.
For bluray playback purpose, maybe u have to spend "2x PS3 price" for the best graphic & hd audio bitstreaming of HTPC.
All these up to individual's different favourite.............
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Anyone know where can i find ready stocks for Sony BDU X10S ?
Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 15 2010, 04:16 AM)
PC gfx is superior, so what? My PC set up is about rm20-30k but PC games still suck coz even after spending so much money, the game still lags on my puny little 30" monitor n we're still at the mercy of Microsoft Windows n it's perennial crashes. Some games like Microsoft's very own big game like Gears Of War won't even start after installation.

PS3 game is guaranteed super smooth experience.  Just put the game in n play. Best thing is, I'm sitting in a super comfy lounge chair with wireless controller in hand n gaming at 1080p on a 60" screen in my living room. Can even call friends over for some havoc with multi player FIFA session. Try that with a PC. Best thing is, the PS3 set up costs only half of my PC set up. 
PS3 games cost about the same as PC games. What r u talking about?
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totally agree with you...
last time have around 10k PC...
still cant compare with 1.2k PS3...
most important is PC game not support HD..
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BETTER GO FOR PS3
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 15 2010, 04:16 AM)
PC gfx is superior, so what? My PC set up is about rm20-30k but PC games still suck coz even after spending so much money, the game still lags on my puny little 30" monitor n we're still at the mercy of Microsoft Windows n it's perennial crashes. Some games like Microsoft's very own big game like Gears Of War won't even start after installation.

PS3 game is guaranteed super smooth experience.  Just put the game in n play. Best thing is, I'm sitting in a super comfy lounge chair with wireless controller in hand n gaming at 1080p on a 60" screen in my living room. Can even call friends over for some havoc with multi player FIFA session. Try that with a PC. Best thing is, the PS3 set up costs only half of my PC set up.  
PS3 games cost about the same as PC games. What r u talking about?
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Mar 15 2010, 02:01 PM)
totally agree with you...
last time have around 10k PC...
still cant compare with 1.2k PS3...
most important is PC game not support HD..
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I'm sure there gonna be anytime soon any manufacturer will opt for FULL HD GC's to the market..


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Anyone know where can i find ready stocks for Sony BDU X10S ?
Thanks in advance.
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Try Sri Computer in Lowyat, i only know they have stocks at the moment, or try at Compuzone (Lowyat).

All the best searching for one.. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 14 2010, 03:59 PM)
You bitstream through your Sound card not BDROM.. BD-rom doesnt have the audio connector , it all comes from your soundcard to the AVR etc..
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I'm using ATI HD5570 and right now i can bitstream HD audio from m2ts file to AVR.
So can I bitstream from my ATI when playing blu-ray using BD-ROM? icon_question.gif

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the only real difference between the PS3 and HTPC is for multiformat HD content... BD quality wise, its already 1080p for Video so there really shouldn't be any difference in terms of quality...

HTPC may have the advantage of being able to play .mkv and other media files that the PS3 isn't able to... that's about it I believe.
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QUOTE(minimize @ Mar 15 2010, 08:27 PM)
I'm using ATI HD5570 and right now i can bitstream HD audio from m2ts file to AVR.
So can I bitstream from my ATI when playing blu-ray using BD-ROM?  icon_question.gif
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Dont think so mate..you can bitstream from your m2ts to AVR , not from ATI..its only for your HD Display..
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Dont think so mate..you can bitstream from your m2ts to AVR , not from ATI..its only for your HD Display..
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you think wrong.
nowadays people don't have to buy a HD soundcard to enjoy hd sound. enough with a display card that supports hd audio bitstreaming through hdmi (like the ati 5 series).
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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 15 2010, 10:34 PM)
you think wrong.
nowadays people don't have to buy a HD soundcard to enjoy hd sound. enough with a display card that supports hd audio bitstreaming through hdmi (like the ati 5 series).
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Yeah, i know its bitstream through hdmi from display card but to where you gonna output the HD sound?
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Yeah, i know its bitstream through hdmi from display card but to where you gonna output the HD sound?
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if like that, get a good speaker that produces Surround sound will be good enough i reckon, like HD sound d i think
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yea, get an ATI 5xxx series VGA will do the job for both HD video and audio

HD 5850 spec :

Integrated HD audio controller

* Output protected high bit rate 7.1 channel surround sound over HDMI with no additional cables required
* Supports AC-3, AAC, Dolby TrueHD and DTS Master Audio formats



however, of cos you still need a HDMI AVR as well haha...

advantage HTPC to PS3, i guess its just reading extra video format in softcopy way (mkv, m2ts, bdiso)
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however, can it be operated with hdmi as audio/display(tv speakers) and sound card to your normal 2.1 speakers, At the same time????

as for my issue, i only can choose 1.
either hdmi --> audio and display(tv speakers)
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hdmi --->display only and soundcard to standard speakers



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QUOTE(paskal @ Mar 15 2010, 10:51 PM)
the speakers of course biggrin.gif
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What LCD Monitor you are using?
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toshiba regza 40" lcd tv
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 16 2010, 03:20 PM)
toshiba regza 40" lcd tv
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Wow, fantastic stuff..is it FULL HD bro?
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yea full hd. thats y now stress la, wanna fully utilize all that i have.....
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QUOTE(robotizer @ Mar 16 2010, 09:47 PM)
yea full hd. thats y now stress la, wanna fully utilize all that i have.....
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