Hmm... since the early 90's far as I can remember. Longest partnership in league history unless I'm mistaken. Ah well, they weren't exactly digging deep into their pockets anyway.

That's the thing mate. When you make a statement, you have to be bold about it. You can't wait to see what the outcome of our games is before taking a swipe at the mancs

No. They are two different competitions.

Good showing this morning. The biggest difference is that we put our chances away. Didn't test their keeper much otherwise. It was a little touch and go when Cardozo scored and I was biting my nails until Torres scored our 4th. Good thing we scored early because after that Benfica had to come at us.

So that's two good mornings in a row now Hope we continue to impress against Fulham over the weekend.

I wouldn't cream my pants yet. Just as one bad performance doesn't mean a player is crap, one good goal doesn't yet make him a superstar. I've seen highlights of Lucas when he played for Gremio and he was always played further up the park. It isn't a coincidence that his best games for us have come when he is deployed further forward. Just as Igor Biscan was struggling as a defender or defensive midfielder, only to play his beat game for us when he was playe d as an attacking midfielder against Bayer Leverkusen, Lucas has performed decently in the opposition half. Having said that, he has had some appaling games whether it's his fault or not.


While Insua may be young and can improve his game, one attribute he cannot change is his lack of pace. It isn't a coincidence that we've been conceeding from crosses. Like Carra before him, he really struggles against pacy wingers. Whilst he is a good squad player, I feel we still need a defender with a little more pace to give us options. 2 players for each position.

The game is live on Starsports is it not? 10pm kickoff. I'm pretty sure it is.

When asked, Agger cited a preference to play in the defensive midfielder position. Perhaps we should have played him there instead of Fabio Aurelio when we were overrun but Fiorentina in Florence. Then again, he was injured then wasn't he? My biggest criticism of Agger is that he is relatively weak in the air. He is a pretty strong bloke and this was evident when he once marked Drogba out of the game, forcing the Ivorian to go down each time there was contact in hope of getting a foul, but he should win more headers.

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Added on April 11, 2010, 8:29 amOldest or longest serving?

I'm not sure who was older but I believe either Ray Clemence or Bruce Grobbelaar had long careers with us.

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It's the 15th of April tomorrow - http://my-rawk.com/

It's the 15th of April lads. In honour of the 96, I wore my kit to work.

Here's something I found on RAWK.

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Rafa pays tribute

Though none of us were physically present at Hillsborough, and maybe only a little more were fans during the disaster, I feel that as Liverpool fans it is imperative to at least understand the magnitude of it and what it means to our kinsmen over in the UK. One hallmark of being a Liverpool fan is that we never forget. It's why we still utter the name of Bill Shankly and pay respect to him each year. Similarly it's why fans still shed tears during the Hillsborough memorial though it's been just over 20 years. I read all the time how posters here claim that we are different. Well if you ask me, two very big components of what makes this true is that we never forget, and our solidarity. It is important for us to empathise with the families that are still fighting for justice after all this time. If hope that all of you have at least read about Hillsborough. Here are the accounts of several posters on RAWK after witnessing the memorial.















The last one said it all for me. It's this kind of devotion that makes me feel proud to be a Liverpool fan. It's why I still wear my kit when I draw flack every day. Just yesterday I got stick from 3 mancs and 1 non-football fan. I keep getting asked why I still bother. When I do, I just smile because I know that they will never understand.

YNWA 96.

Just because we are milllions of miles away it doesn't mean that Hillsborough should mean any less to us. I post these pics each year and I'll do it again. It was what our red brothers and sisters in Indonesia did a couple of years ago in memory of Hillsborough. Seeing this kind of devotion brings tears to my eyes.

Each time you say you are different or you slander rival fans, ask yourself if you are as devoted. If you are, then slander away.

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Sadly, I doubt you'd get many to attend. My point of posting the pics of our Indonesian counterparts was two fold.

a) To show that you needn't have been physically present at Hillsborough to pay homage to our fallen reds and,
b) To show that amidst claims from several posters that we are "special" or "different", it means more when you do it than if you were to only say it.

We once tried collecting donations for the victim's families at one of our gatherings via selling merchandise but as yo may have guessed, no takers. Could not hide my disappointment at the time.

I feel the same way as you. Once again I wish to reiterate that I'm not just a fan of Liverpool but also a fan of Liverpool fans. I only wish I could be as devoted.

It's a bit unfair to expect anyone here to feel anything but at the very least, I think we can read about it to honour the victims and their families and to tell the world of their plight. It's the least we can do.

I agree mate. The problem is that younger fans don't see a need to do so. Reminds me of a topic we discussed about a year ago on history being important. The vast majority of fans felt that watching every game was enough, and not knowing one's history didn't matter. Maybe not for any other club but for a club that never forgets, it's a massive crime. I don't expect many to research. As it is you still get posters asking about what the result of a game is when the answer is only a click away.

Why does he keep getting injured? I'll take a stab at this.

1) He play alone upfront all the time and gets kicked about pretty often.
2) It appears that he an only he is capable of getting goals on his own, resulting in him having to do a lot of work.
3) He plays whenever he is fit and the strain of constantly having to create opportunities on his own, means he suffers from a higher level of fatigue compared to the other lads.
4) Apparently we only have on other striker in N'Gog and he couldn't hit the broadside of an aicraft carrier.

You hit the nail on the head there mate. Each time Torres plays for us, it looks as though we adopt a "hit the ball up to Torres and hope that he can do something" approach to the game. Rooney may work hard, just like our Dirk Kuyt but unlike Rooney, Torres does not receive the same amount of support. Aside from Benayoun and Gerrard, we don't have any matchwinners. Unlike Torres, Rooney often plays behind a striker, whether it be Berbatov or Owen. He struggles when playing alone upfront.

If I were to be harsh and judge his performance on the bottom line, the only "wonder" worth mentioning is the Champions League in 2005. Forget that we finished 2nd last season because it was obviously a smokescreen just as Istanbul was, and let's be honest, in another couple of years, who is going to remember we almost pipped Man Utd to the title? Not sure about our players having flourished at International level. Kuyt and Babel may be regulars for Holland, but so is Johnny Heitinga who plays for Everton. Benayoun plays for a team that doesn't exactly qualify regularly for top level competitions. Skrtel and Kyrgiakos play for average European sides. Reina plays second fiddle to Cassilas. Mascherano may be captain of Argentina but it is a team brimming with talent and even then, they almost didn't make the cut for the World Cup. Anyone thought they'd get thrashed by Bolivia even if it was at the dizzying heights of the La Paz?

Just being realistic here.