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post Mar 11 2010, 04:07 PM, updated 15y ago

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hi all,
i cant really seem to find much info on this..
apart from what it does is that it adds impedance on the output.. forcing player to output higher power giving cleaner signals.. and possibly removes hissing noise from circuits (is it?)

but there are those headphone with very high impedance,
there's also customs, ksc also has impedance modding..
so..

what i'd like to know is.. how does having the adaptor.. or changing the impedance affect the sq, eq, or signature actually?
is higher better or...?
what about impedance matching? what is so significant about matching it? how do i match my player to iem's impedance?

thx in advance for any contributions on this questions..
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Mar 11 2010, 04:13 PM)
I don't see how forcing anything to a higher output power creates cleaner signals man...

Impedance matching is usually done at the cable/board level to maximize power transfer. To match the characteristic impedance (Zo).

The ER-4 from Etymotic has an impedence adapter (resistive adapter) that acts in conjunction with the capacitance  to form a filter that changes the frequency response of the unit using it.
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well i couldnt find much info.. that's one of them that i found.. probably..
anyway if talking about signal attenuation.. if the output is not strong enuff.. there will be some attenuation, or frequency drops..

QUOTE(nders @ Mar 11 2010, 04:10 PM)
I've read quite a few posts in head-fi suggesting that an adapter in most cases WILL have a negative impact on SQ, but well... you know, hearsay and head-fi. take it with a pinch of salt.
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im hoping someone here (eg: PcWork tongue.gif) who does have those adapters can give his experience on that..

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post Mar 12 2010, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 12 2010, 11:49 AM)
I wonder impedance adaptor can stop the hssing sound from my low end sound card.
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im not sure.. that's one of the thing i wanna try out.

QUOTE(PcWork @ Mar 12 2010, 05:45 PM)
i have the impedance adapter on hand. u are welcome to have a listen
overall it has different sound shaping effect to different type of driver.
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hoping u'd offered.. was considering of getting one from u actually.. but i wanted to be sure first.
anytime ur free to entertain me? i live in bangi so if ur in serdang i can drop by anytime.
thx
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post Mar 12 2010, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(jycheang @ Mar 12 2010, 09:44 PM)
I try get one from pc work but he too busy to reply pm.

try and let me know about the results.
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will do.. smile.gif
when he's available that is..
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jun 30 2011, 08:21 AM)
Actually, JDS Labs says because of high current demand of low impedance IEM/headphones, the amp is the one to get damaged.

But my question to JDS Labs have been answered. Apparently, and fortunately damage to the amp this way is very rare, but does happen. Some guy over at head-fi damages his amp by driving it to distortion levels for weeks. It was fried eventually. I don't think I will be doing that......and I don't think I'll lend it to my friends that long, and I guess I just have to be extra careful when they use it.  sweat.gif

If I find a dirt cheap one at some electronics store, might as well buy it for the sake of experimentation.  laugh.gif
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from what i understand, what happens here is, the amp sees less resistance on low impedance headphone, hence current will flow through more...
imagine water flowing through small river (high impedance) vs water flowing through large river (low impedance).

there will be too much current being drawn from the amp, hence amp overloaded.

as for the results of impedance adapter, i dont find it to my liking.
it reduces hiss, but at the same time it lowers high frequency info, making the sound more closed-in, less airy, or in my own way of saying, less natural ambience and decay.
some people actually uses this to get a better definition of bass, dropping hiss (or noise floor) allows more things to be heard, especially low level details.
but higher resistance also will reduce the strength of the sound, too much and u might end up filtering the soft sound altogether.

i think its better to improve the grounding for cutting down hiss, or the power line for more current output. but im not an amp builder, i cant say much.

 

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