I still don't understand what is the problem with B.Yond. There should be a stretch mode because SD will look weird. SD is not meant to be watched in stretched mode. I think you all complain wrongly. Astro is showing you guys how to watch SD in correct way. Hope you all understand.

and do you think that the zoom mode is perfectly OK?

Looks weird? not to me. The further you watch Astro SD from the TV, the more clearer it gets, Just now I went at some restaurant, they have a Panasonic 40" displaying normal Astro, I thought it was in HD, then I sit nearer to the TV, it gets blurry. Same goes with Stretch mode

Showing or shoving down their throats? These astro subscribers are paying astro good money, if they are not satisfied, they can rant and get angry as much as they can

i rest my case

not zoom mode. We should watch in pillar box mode.

weird la. You're watching it not the way it is meant to be watched...

No la. Really one. Movie/show should be watched the way it meant to be watched.

Well for some, their own TV upscaling mode is better than the others whereby they can watch stretched mode without getting "fat people" version. But it's all a matter of preferences tbh.

while I agree that the purist way of watching 4:3 programmes is in pillar-box mode, I reserve the right to watch it the way I want to.

As well there are purists in audio who think that they should not listen in multichannel because they only have two ears, yet I like running my 2-channel audio through Dolby Prologic II or DTS:Neo.

Should AVR manufacturers remove the DPLII and DTS:Neo option because these are not the "correct" way of listening to stereo material?

I don't see how Astro, having cut the original 16:9 video to transmit in 4:3 have any right to tell us how to watch it. Why don't they transmit SD in 16:9 anyways? if you have a 4:3 screen you'll be letterboxed, and that would be ok because everyone is used to letterboxing.



This post has been edited by SiriuslyCold: Mar 14 2010, 10:01 PM

Yeah maybe ur right. But u should know not all people are same. Each one of us has own perspective. Some like black and some like white.
Same here as paying astro subcriber, i think we have right to choose our convience way to watch as long as we happy with that.

So I think look weird it not a issue to here. Like me, sometime I switch to pillar box when I not happy with the picture and mostly I convience watch in stretch mode.

If astro want us strictly to watch the correct way I think they should remove zoom option at the first place. No more option to select aspect ratio right?

I respect your right to have your stretch back, my replies aren't trying to say anything against that but I still feel I need to pull you up on some things

I'm cool with that but make sure you don't enter into any discussion about picture quality if you stretch

a better comparison would be listening to the music at the wrong speed and claiming it is just as a good

No, becasue they enhance the quality. Quality is the key to this discussion not distortion. You're fighting for the right to distort.

The source has to be produced in 16:9 and for the vast majority of material it simply isn't available or the channel is not 100% letterbox.

Astro haven't cut the video, the originating channel does that and broadcasts it to the region.

How can a stretching mode happened without getting fat people? you don't know what you're talking about bro. stretch = fat = stretch.

Sound transmitted if it sounded the same, then its the same. Unless you make it change speed, then its wrong.
Watching in wrong aspect ratio is same as listen to music at wrong speed.

I'm not sure how convenience is convenience. Watching astro is like praying to me. It's very sacred things. Everything must be done
rite. That is, the aspect ratio must be correct and the sound must be correct. I don't mind setup before watching.

So that is convenience way to you. But not to others. I think not fair to force someone to choose something (pillar box, zoom, stretch) they not happy/convenience to watched.

anyway back to the poll,

I see that "stretched" has lost about 20% from it's early 70+ number down to 50+ but no real % change going in the favor of pillar box or zoom.

This post has been edited by TallJustin: Mar 14 2010, 11:16 PM

re: Prologic II/DTS:neo

A true audio purist would content that anything that messes with the original signal is not enhancing quality.

you're not speaking for them are you?

My 7 series samsung does a better upscaling than my older hdtv and both the tv does show some differences when the stretch option is on. When it fills up the whole panel with the stretch option on, the built-in dvb-tuner on the 7 series does a great job to enhance the picture quality, making it less "fatter". Like I said, it's all a matter of preferences.

wonders what music producers would think if radio stations play their music distoterdly just because paying listeners like it that way..

I'm not sure why you guys want to fill up the screen just for the sake of fill up the screen. Just because you bought 42" LCD but due to SD 4:3 only fill 80% of your screen, you feel bad and want to stretch until the people also look fat. That's not the way to enjoy LCD. It's blasphemous.

OK then. Since it's the weekend, and the managers are on leave, we should expect some news from Assterung tomorrow right? I recall somebody here said that there will be a meeting tomorrow about this.

music producers these days are already distorting the music, but that's another story