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annielee
post Mar 12 2011, 12:24 AM

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i cant remember how much i spend for the 6 weeks..as i used my credit card most of the time, luckily i managed pay off when i got a job..
but that is not your worry now, as you need to get a visa to enter australia to work first..

as said, you are only qualify to apply for WHV at the moment..
ya, they can let you work in a 4-5 star hotel, but as what ? i doubt they can place you in a marketing dept straight...

im not sure which website you can use to search for job in hospitality in Aus, but i guess you can google and search..

bear in mind, now Aus government is strict on immigrants, and rules has been tightened every year, and im lucky i got my PR before that happen....

do ask the agent what type of visa they are providing, and check it on DIAC website to verify...

annielee
post Mar 12 2011, 09:48 AM

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my advise is to research and read more on the possibility to get a job or even visa to work in australia, if its not easy to get a job as a fresh grad in your profession, then apply for WHV, and dont waste your rm20k....

go here to read.. but this is more on PR to oz application forum..


QUOTE(NerdAlert @ Mar 12 2011, 01:37 AM)
so your solution is google for vacancy, apply WHV, and go then. I do not understand how strict to obtain PR, but as long as I learn something there. I dun mind come back Msia. btw, thank for your precious advise.  smile.gif
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annielee
post Mar 12 2011, 12:11 PM

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what do you mean by what condition ?

i applied PR on my own without any sponsor or job at all..
research and google as much as i can on the internet and found out i got enough points and go ahead to apply..
but i do encounter obstacles as well, as my 1st skills assessment failed coz i do not have enough years experience, so i have to wait for another year to qualify, and i waited and re-apply for skills assessment, and i passed :-) then i proceed to apply for PR, and got it in about 9 months :-)

but for graduates is not easy, as you dont have any working experience at all.. thats y, WHV is the only option for you..

QUOTE(NerdAlert @ Mar 12 2011, 12:00 PM)
can you tell me in what condition you get your PR? because of your long-term employment?
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annielee
post Mar 12 2011, 01:00 PM

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WHV is only once in a lifetime..
there's no working visa option for msian..
after WHV, you either apply for PR if you qualify or look for employer sponsorship..

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annielee
post Mar 12 2011, 03:33 PM

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WHV is a working holiday visa, and yes, you have to come back to Msia after the visa expires..

Even if you are traveling to Australia, you have to show a return ticket as well, as they are very strict on illegal work..

1 year ? unless you managed to find an employer to sponsor you, if you are apply for PR, 1 year is definitely is not enough..it will need at least 3-4 years, if im not wrong..
annielee
post Mar 14 2011, 12:54 AM

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yes, i do have the experience you've mentioned...

1. no PR, no job
2. got PR, no local (Oz) experience, also no job

when i first came over, i know it will be difficult to get a job, but didnt know it will be so hard..coz my professional cert is widely recognized, but they kept telling me without local experience, its very hard to hire me. but i gave myself 3 months, if still cant get a job, then i will be going back to msia..i send thousands over applications online and went for interview almost everyday....even went to Sydney (i was in Melbourne) for interview.. but still no good news...

i was lucky that one small local oz company willing to hire me as a contractor, the reason they gave is im the only one that can answer all their questions, so they didnt really bother whether i got local experience or not..and at the same time, there's a company in Perth where i did phone interview willing to hire me as permanent staff, but i chose to be a contractor in Melbourne, as i do not have to move to Perth even though moving there is not a problem to me as well.. that's how i got my 1st job.... after this 1st job, when the contract is nearing to end, it's not difficult for me to move to another job even though it's only few months as contractor..

no one mentioned coming to australia will be a bed of roses, but be prepare for the worst.. some really cant survive and even went back to msia..
i knew some came before the gfc, and found a job, but got redundant during gfc, and work casually in a non-related job to survive..and when the economy got better, he managed to get a job in his profession..


QUOTE(the7signals @ Mar 13 2011, 07:10 PM)
Well...just to share...

When I went over to Aust to study a masters degree in one of the G8 uni, I was already a qualified CPA with a few years of Big 5 work experience gain from Msia.

I applied for jobs which still pursuing the masters degree. Send in many applications letter to job agency. The reply I got at that time was,"Hey, you have good Big 5 work experience, but too bad you are not a PR, in order to work in Aust, you need a PR. Once you have a PR, with your experience, you will have job in no time..." It sounds so good and encouraging.

I applied for Aust PR thereafter. After 6 months, my PR was approved. Then I resume in sending out applicationg letters again. The reply I got this time was,"Yes, you are a qualified Australia CPA with Big 5 work experience, you have Aust PR, but to bad, your work experience is gain from Malaysia and not Aust. Meaning to say, you do not have Australian work experience. So please get some australian experience, then you will be in good shape in applying for jobs in Australia..."

I continued to send out application letters non stop. I stayed back for about 6 months after completed my masters degree hoping to get a job which didn't come. Then I decided to come back to Malaysia. My friend stayed back and got themselves some casual jobs to earn the so called "valuable" Aust working experience....

One of my friends shared this reply he got from job agency with me after he got some aust work experience from casual job...."Hmm, yes now you have some aust work experience, but it is not related to what you study and what you are applying for. Please get some related work experience before you apply..."

Hmm....it is really painful and not easy to migrate to Australia. Tried so hard and yet things just didn't work out. Till today, my plan of working and staying in Australia has turn into a Dream that will remain as a Dream forever.
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annielee
post May 22 2011, 01:34 AM

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as you know, the higher you earn, the more tax you pay..
in oz, i dont recall claiming those tax rebate that you enjoyed in msia, as in oz the welfare is good enough, which is why i think not much tax rebates..
the only tax rebate i claimed b4 are work related training/exams....

you can find the rates in ATO website

there are few calculator on the website that you can used to estimate your monthly nett salary as well..

QUOTE(naleh33 @ May 21 2011, 10:57 PM)
Hey anyone here knows the tax structure of australia in details? I know that there are a few salary brackets according to your salary range but the australia tax website did not really provide much details about tax rebate. Like in malaysia, you can claim tax rebate for books, sport equipment, housing interest and etc... does australia practise it as well or it is a flat tax structure. No rebate at all??
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Added on May 22, 2011, 1:39 ameven with PR, if you are not physically in Oz, i doubt you will get any replies from the SEEK jobs you applied..
it will be good if you can ask for a transfer from IBM Msia to IBM Australia..

definitely you will have face some hard time, as some recruiter will prefer local experience under your belt as well..


QUOTE(sploj @ May 20 2011, 05:20 PM)
I hold a PR visa and am intending on moving back to Australia with 3 years of Malaysian IT working experience under my belt. I moved back to Malaysia upon graduation and have worked in IBM Malaysia and a local software consulting company in my 3 years back here.

Friends, what should I be prepared for, in terms of moving back to Australia?

My biggest concern, is of course, securing a job there.
I have tried applying on SEEK but have gotten minimal responses.

I would appreciate all advice smile.gif
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annielee
post May 22 2011, 01:23 PM

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yup, you can always engage an accountant or tax agents to do your tax and ask them about it..
and you can claim back the tax rebate for the tax agent fees for next year..
thats what i did for the 1st year, coz im not sure about the tax system over there..

QUOTE(naleh33 @ May 22 2011, 01:17 PM)
I know the about the tax bracket and the rates. The only thing that I am not clear is the tax rebates which you said is quite hard to come by since the welfare is good.
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Added on May 22, 2011, 1:24 pmya i agree as well, we cant always get the best of both worlds, so it depends what you want..


QUOTE(KVReninem @ May 22 2011, 02:58 AM)
mm beg to diff.

Look; Australia not a perfect society; same goes our Malaysia.

In Australia; all this weeds; alcohol...is part of life living free. You can do what ever you want; but at the cost that if you caused trouble; trouble finds you back.

They value life; value family too. Some times things don't work out; you cant make all agree at a same point; but eventually, things work out.

About kids; yes. by 18 you have the rights to move out & give parents their space. Its a good move to keep them independent & learn the whole world themselves. Tell me; in Malaysia; why kids are still not growing up & be spoon-feed till their late pre marriage age?
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annielee
post May 23 2011, 03:31 PM

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wish all the best, do update us on your job search when you are there next month :-)

QUOTE(sploj @ May 23 2011, 03:18 PM)
thank you 7signals and annielee for your advice.
Unfortunately I have left IBM Malaysia, but while I was there, I was working as an engineer monitoring compliance for IT solutions developed by IBM Australia & New Zealand. My role was an ANZ Compliance Engineer. I wonder if that counts as local (Australian) experience.

Nonetheless, I have stated my working experience in IBM succinctly in my resume.
I am already all geared up, leaving Malaysia at the end of June for Melbourne.

Is the job market still tough?
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