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post Mar 7 2010, 11:01 PM, updated 16y ago

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What is the difference between HTC magic and HTC tattoo? beside the price..
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post Mar 7 2010, 11:09 PM

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why dont you refer it on gsmarena ?i think you can do comparison there.
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post Mar 8 2010, 11:23 AM

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ok, thx
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post Mar 11 2010, 04:00 PM

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pity u bro..

this's link for Magic..
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_magic-2714.php

n this's for tattoo..
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_tattoo-2932.php

OS is a major different here..
And screen size.. nod.gif nod.gif

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post Mar 11 2010, 10:00 PM

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seems like it has launched for a year + now.. any new replacement coming soon?
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post Mar 13 2010, 10:11 AM

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price here

http://mytechnews.info/b/2010/03/buy-buy-buy.html
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post Mar 13 2010, 10:32 AM

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The htc magic more better ...
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post Mar 13 2010, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Mar 7 2010, 11:01 PM)
What is the difference between HTC magic and HTC tattoo? beside the price..
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The biggest difference is the screen, where Magic is capacitive touch screen, and Tattoo is resistive touch screen.
Resistive=pressure (fingernail/stylus)
Capacitive=touch (finger)

QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Mar 11 2010, 10:00 PM)
seems like it has launched for a year + now.. any new replacement coming soon?
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in fact, any other Android phones by HTC are the better replacements, Magic is one of the oldest phone to have Android OS.
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QUOTE(yan5619 @ Mar 13 2010, 05:33 PM)
The biggest difference is the screen, where Magic is capacitive touch screen, and Tattoo is resistive touch screen.
Resistive=pressure (fingernail/stylus)
Capacitive=touch (finger)
in fact, any other Android phones by HTC are the better replacements, Magic is one of the oldest phone to have Android OS.
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Thanks for useful info!

I think i will get the HERO. Hopefully after LEGEND is introduce, the HERO price will drop..
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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Mar 13 2010, 10:33 PM)
Thanks for useful info!

I think i will get the HERO. Hopefully after LEGEND is introduce, the HERO price will drop..
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The RRP for Hero has been officially reduced to +-1.8k.
If you want the price to drop further, then you'll have to wait for months.
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post Mar 13 2010, 11:46 PM

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means is it good to get Magic now? its only 1.3k plus
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post Mar 14 2010, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(hakunamatata @ Mar 13 2010, 10:33 PM)
Thanks for useful info!

I think i will get the HERO. Hopefully after LEGEND is introduce, the HERO price will drop..
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If u have free time , u can to Htc Promotion there have a look.
Thanks u 1

QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 13 2010, 11:46 PM)
means is it good to get Magic now? its only 1.3k plus
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1.3k plus is the Value price to get it .
If u have free time , u can to Htc Promotion there have a look.

Thanks u !

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post Mar 14 2010, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 13 2010, 11:46 PM)
means is it good to get Magic now? its only 1.3k plus
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good or not depends on you.
altho it is upgradable, but then you should know that with the pace Android/HTC is moving, well, Magic may not get so much of attention.

if you want to keep the price to the min, and doesn't mind being in the same level while others have all the newer stuff, then it's good for you =)
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post Mar 14 2010, 11:14 AM

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Wonder if Magic can have the Multi TOuch as Hero has?
the zoom-in function?

SenseUI as well?
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post Mar 14 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(kanethesun @ Mar 14 2010, 11:14 AM)
Wonder if Magic can have the Multi TOuch as Hero has?
the zoom-in function?

SenseUI as well?
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Can, but you'll have to root it and stuff for the mean time.
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post Mar 15 2010, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(yan5619 @ Mar 14 2010, 11:12 AM)
good or not depends on you.
altho it is upgradable, but then you should know that with the pace Android/HTC is moving, well, Magic may not get so much of attention.

if you want to keep the price to the min, and doesn't mind being in the same level while others have all the newer stuff, then it's good for you =)
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hmmmm, its upgradable as in firmware? I am new to android and HTC because i've used Nokia and SE for the past few years, changed to LG last year and it really sucks.... since neowin reported adroid is growing fast, i wanna try android...

what do you mean tho by same level as other having new stuff?
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post Mar 15 2010, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 15 2010, 12:24 AM)
hmmmm, its upgradable as in firmware? I am new to android and HTC because i've used Nokia and SE for the past few years, changed to LG last year and it really sucks.... since neowin reported adroid is growing fast, i wanna try android...

what do you mean tho by same level as other having new stuff?
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yes the firmware.
sorry for the poor description.

say now, tattoo are running on Androif 1.6, while the latest available version is Android 2.1.
you may be able to root it right away after you got ur device, but then you may not get 'official releases' for later versions (or so) because the Tattoo and Magic are the older gen phones, and the hardware will be incompatible/not so competitive for the newer versions. in this situation, you may be stucked in the older version.

take another example, the HTC Hero is much more promising as it is (compared with Magic) the first phone to have Sense UI, and it is competitive enough to get the upgrade 'attention'. And thus, news are coming out that version 2.1 is to be released for Heros.

And yes, this situation happens to most technology devices, however, Android is new, and the newer versions will come out much faster than other OSes, thus, getting a 'newer generation' of phone is preferable, IMHO.
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QUOTE(yan5619 @ Mar 15 2010, 09:23 AM)
yes the firmware.
sorry for the poor description.

say now, tattoo are running on Androif 1.6, while the latest available version is Android 2.1.
you may be able to root it right away after you got ur device, but then you may not get 'official releases' for later versions (or so) because the Tattoo and Magic are the older gen phones, and the hardware will be incompatible/not so competitive for the newer versions. in this situation, you may be stucked in the older version.

take another example, the HTC Hero is much more promising as it is (compared with Magic) the first phone to have Sense UI, and it is competitive enough to get the upgrade 'attention'. And thus, news are coming out that version 2.1 is to be released for Heros.

And yes, this situation happens to most technology devices, however, Android is new, and the newer versions will come out much faster than other OSes, thus, getting a 'newer generation' of phone is preferable, IMHO.
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oh ok understood... but than now hero very expensive and i feel that the design of the device ain't as nice as magic, don't you think?
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 15 2010, 11:01 AM)
oh ok understood... but than now hero very expensive and i feel that the design of the device ain't as nice as magic, don't you think?
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maybe can consider tattoo. its also the newer gen like hero. hero release 1st than follow by tattoo.
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wah don't want! HTC Tattoo design even worst!!! lol... the big giant button spoil the look... how i wish magic can hold hero firmware with no problem... but anyways, for a basic user like me, want to sms, online, call and ebuddy only... is magic good enough? basically, i sometimes do take random photos too....

and also, i want to know does the magic have any lag to it when its in the gallery... LG Viewty is super lag where u need to wait about 7-8 second to load one single image...

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i'm not sure bout the lagging issue as you mentioned, but yes, for very basic uses like online and sms, it's already sufficient.

a higher version is usually preferred to contain more new and advanced apps or games.
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 15 2010, 09:38 PM)
wah don't want! HTC Tattoo design even worst!!! lol... the big giant button spoil the look... how i wish magic can hold hero firmware with no problem... but anyways, for a basic user like me, want to sms, online, call and ebuddy only... is magic good enough? basically, i sometimes do take random photos too....

and also, i want to know does the magic have any lag to it when its in the gallery... LG Viewty is super lag where u need to wait about 7-8 second to load one single image...
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of course magic can hold hero firmware with a bit of porting of course, you can find them in xda-developers forum. FYI, apart from the 3.5mm jack and 5mpx camera Hero and Magic is virtually having the same hardware. In fact, in some instances you can use Hero's Recovery smile.gif


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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 16 2010, 01:19 AM)
of course magic can hold hero firmware with a bit of porting of course, you can find them in xda-developers forum. FYI, apart from the 3.5mm jack and 5mpx camera Hero and Magic is virtually having the same hardware. In fact, in some instances you can use Hero's Recovery smile.gif
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wow really? But i did some research on the net and some said it will lag a bit and some feature don't work properly... is that true?
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lag - hmmm this is a bit subjective .. and also dependent on the cpu & memory load at that time. The way to measure performance, i'm using Linpack for Android from greencomputing http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/

you can check the submitted results as reference http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpac...pack-by-device/
you can compare the performance of hero and magic smile.gif

some feature don't work properly ?? such as ???

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM)
lag - hmmm this is a bit subjective .. and also dependent on the cpu & memory load at that time. The way to measure performance, i'm using Linpack for Android from greencomputing http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpack/

you can check the submitted results as reference http://www.greenecomputing.com/apps/linpac...pack-by-device/
you can compare the performance of hero and magic smile.gif

some feature don't work properly ?? such as ???
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i read that some camera feature don't work and so on... maybe from u as an experience android user.... if i upgrade to hero rom.... what are the thing that cannot function properly?

And about the lag issue, all i want is it don't lag/delay while loading image... It takes about 30 second to go from standby to opening an image...

Will the HTC Magic be that lag or it still have a lag feel to it? i mean like delay while opening gallery, will it be as smooth as Sony Ericsson or iPhone?
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ok, the below is purely my own experience, others experience may differ

previously i was using MyHero 2.0.5(Hero Based Sense ROM) and it serves me quite well, everything seems to work normal, call, sms, LED, trackball lights, ringer, gps, wifi, bluetooth, data, camera and all.

Currently I'm using CursorSense 1.2.6.1(Magic Based Sense ROM) and its slightly smoother/snappier compare to MyHero.

only thing that is considered crippled is the Bluetooth File Transfer. As of now, there are no Sense ROM (cupcake 1.5) that support bluetooth file transfer.

about the lag, if you compare to iPhone then i would say yes, there is but its definitely NOT 30 seconds, not even close. To open up gallery is almost instance, but it may take 2-3 seconds to load all those thumbnails (currently i have about 50 over images and 7 videos on my sdcard) , to open a single image is almost instant smile.gif

I've tried some 2.1 roms thats available, they feel even faster and snappier however certain feature still not fully available (LED, camera partially works etc etc). I'm waiting for a fully working 2.1 ROM then i'll migrate smile.gif

Hope that helps
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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 17 2010, 02:35 AM)
ok, the below is purely my own experience, others experience may differ

previously i was using MyHero 2.0.5(Hero Based Sense ROM) and it serves me quite well, everything seems to work normal, call, sms, LED, trackball lights, ringer, gps, wifi, bluetooth, data, camera and all.

Currently I'm using CursorSense 1.2.6.1(Magic Based Sense ROM) and its slightly smoother/snappier compare to MyHero.

only thing that is considered crippled is the Bluetooth File Transfer. As of now, there are no Sense ROM (cupcake 1.5) that support bluetooth file transfer.

about the lag, if you compare to iPhone then i would say yes, there is but its definitely NOT 30 seconds, not even close. To open up gallery is almost instance, but it may take 2-3 seconds to load all those thumbnails (currently i have about 50 over images and 7 videos on my sdcard) , to open a single image is almost instant smile.gif

I've tried some 2.1 roms thats available, they feel even faster and snappier however certain feature still not fully available (LED, camera partially works etc etc). I'm waiting for a fully working 2.1 ROM then i'll migrate smile.gif

Hope that helps
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wow that really helps and gave me some knowledge about Magic... about the Rom thing i will care later... as long the preinstalled rom can serve me well than i'm fine with it! hahaha.... thanks man...

Oh, there isn't any bluetooth file transfer yet... i heard there will be one soon right?
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Like i said, currently all Sense(cupcake) rom does not have BT file transfer and i don't they will in the near future.

if u need that feature, u can use non Sense (cupcake) or anything from Donut and above...
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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 17 2010, 02:46 PM)
Like i said, currently all Sense(cupcake) rom does not have BT file transfer and i don't they will in the near future.

if u need that feature, u can use non Sense (cupcake) or anything from Donut and above...
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hmmmm, well i am not sure what u are talking 'yet'.... hahahaha... dunno what the crap are cupcakes and donut (sounds like food...) But anyways ur review and knowledge given really provides me something to look upon when i get my Magic... do u think i should wait for Desire to be release hoping the price will even drop further or should i just buy it next week when the HTC promotion at lowyat is still on?
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haha, no worries ... those are android version codename

- cupcake =1.5
- donut = 1.6
- eclair = 2.0~2.1

Sense is HTC custom interface on top of Android OS, something like TouchFlo in winmo.

you will definitely get familiar with these terms once you get your Magic. Regarding when to buy, its entirely up to you man ...hahaha

good luck

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QUOTE(mikeeeee @ Mar 18 2010, 12:36 AM)
haha, no worries ... those are android version codename

- cupcake =1.5
- donut = 1.6
- eclair = 2.0~2.1

Sense is HTC custom interface on top of Android OS, something like TouchFlo in winmo.

you will definitely get familiar with these terms once you get your Magic. Regarding when to buy, its entirely up to you man ...hahaha

good luck
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oh alright! Thats another good thing to know... biggrin.gif! ok when i get the Magic... i'll post it here... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SpIcYjOe @ Mar 18 2010, 01:29 AM)
oh alright! Thats another good thing to know... biggrin.gif! ok when i get the Magic... i'll post it here... biggrin.gif
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I just go PC fair, and notice magic still Rm1499 without negotiation yet. The sales guy told me they discontinue this product. So no more white model for me. I shall wait for HTC legend price drop then...

Magic no market place.... else I already bought it... sigh...
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QUOTE(mycacha @ Apr 11 2010, 06:50 PM)
I just go PC fair, and notice magic still Rm1499 without negotiation yet. The sales guy told me they discontinue this product. So no more white model for me. I shall wait for HTC legend price drop then...

Magic no market place.... else I already bought it... sigh...
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You can always root it to get Market if you want... brows.gif Browse through the Magic's official thread and you'll found that many have done it. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(wiind @ Apr 11 2010, 08:22 PM)
You can always root it to get Market if you want...  brows.gif Browse through the Magic's official thread and you'll found that many have done it.  thumbup.gif
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Ya.. but because when I buy, it's new, afraid spoiled the warranty.... izzit very easy to root it?
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QUOTE(mycacha @ Apr 11 2010, 09:40 PM)
Ya.. but because when I buy, it's new, afraid spoiled the warranty.... izzit very easy to root it?
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correct me if im wrong ppl, but i heard, after rooting...if theres any probz wid phone n u hav to send bac for warranty, u cn always jus RE-root it bac..?? hmmm...is dis true?? tongue.gif

 

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