If you want media player that plays HD audio, currently only the higher priced ones can do that, e.g the Dvico 6500A, HDX BD1, HDMAX-BD-200C (all above RM1K). You will also need an AVR with HDMI input which also supports HD audio. (Note * Just having HDMI is not enough, it must also SUPPORT HD Audio, whether Bitstream or LPCM).

Those movie files with HD Audio (TrueHD ot DTS-MA) are normally files with .M2TS extension.

Those with .MKV extension normally only contain downconverted Regular Dolby/DTS 5.1.

(Note:- Although the cheaper Media players can play .m2ts files, the audio will not be real HD Audio, only downgraded 5.1 sound or sometimes even stereo or no sound)

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 16 2010, 11:55 PM

AVR is your Audio Video Receiver as in Pioneer, Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha.... (some may know them as Amplifiers)

They Can contain but they are not the norm yet, that's why I use the word "Normally".

WDTV Live may play TrueHD but what about DTS-MA. Partial function don't count as the real thing because lots of m2ts are using DTS-MA nowadays .

Anyway let's not bring topic of MKV that contain HD Audio into the picture since no media players in market can properly bitstream them currently , it will only confuse the TS

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 17 2010, 12:09 AM

All I see are files with just regular AC3 and DTS

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Added on March 17, 2010, 12:15 amLike I said TS looking for info on Current Media players in market, not something that relates to future . If he buys the Asus O!Play thinking it can play MKVs with HD Audio in future then you better answer to him in future



This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 17 2010, 12:22 AM

Since you have decided not to have HD Audio , why not just stick to a cheap media player. You can also get hold of a cheap AVR that does regular 5.1 sound.

Actually diff between HD Audio and regular 5.1 not really night and day difference especially with budget setups. So just forget HD Audio and play regular MKV with your media player. MKVs quality are actually quite good and the size can be about 4-5 times smaller than the full uncompressed BD copy. (Occasionally you can also try some m2ts if you know where to get them, but your setup can only hear regular 5.1 of course )

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 17 2010, 11:48 AM

I purposely used the sentence MKV 'normally' don't have HD Audio , just to avoid people sidetracking into something that confuse the TS but still you couldn't resist

Which 'You Guys' said that? I only read one guy said that MOST Notebok HDMI doesn't give Audio, only video. There's a difference between the word 'Most' and 'All' you know .

Anyway TS was asking more about HD Audio over HDMI, I hope you know the diff between HD Audio and regular Dolby/DTS 5.1 audio

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Added on March 18, 2010, 9:58 amHow's your BD1, still got poblem with certain files? No firmware updates yet? Sell to me cheap . I want to replace my POHD.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 19 2010, 02:06 PM

Just having 5.1 sound over HDMI doesn't mean it can handle HD Audio. Getting HD Audio will depend on the software, the sound Card capabilities etc.

Even your AVR must be able to handle HD Audio. There are some AVR with HDMI but the sound is not passed through.

In either case there must be a HD audio decoder (TrueHD/DTS-MA, not regular Dolby/DTS) present.

Selecting HD audio in the source movie and hearing 5.1 sound in your HT system doesn't mean you are getting HD Audio. For e.g when I play a blu-ray movie in my non-HD audio AVR , I still get 5.1 sound but it is only downgraded sound.

btw, you didn't quote "guys" wrongly. You quote "U Guys" wrongly . And it's not the english that I am talking about

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Added on March 18, 2010, 11:53 amEach player got some ++ and -- . You need to be more specific of your needs.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 18 2010, 11:53 AM

[quote=TrynRex,Mar 18 2010, 01:45 PM]
[quote=Ngto,Mar 18 2010, 11:46 AM]
Just having 5.1 sound over HDMI doesn't mean it can handle HD Audio. Getting HD Audio will depend on the software, the sound Card capabilities etc.
I am not sure about your setup but my setup is notebook -> AVR, my AVR shows that HD Audio is running with 7.1 and not only "just having 5.1 sound over HDMI". Does this mean my system can handle HD Audio?

Even your AVR must be able to handle HD Audio. There are some AVR with HDMI but the sound is not passed through.

In either case there must be a HD audio decoder (TrueHD/DTS-MA, not regular Dolby/DTS) present.

Selecting HD audio in the source movie and hearing 5.1 sound in your HT system doesn't mean you are getting HD Audio. For e.g when I play a blu-ray movie in my non-HD audio AVR , I still get 5.1 sound but it is only downgraded sound.

btw, you didn't quote "guys" wrongly. You quote "U Guys" wrongly . And it's not the english that I am talking about
I wrote "u guys" means that i am not specifically pointing at that person and just for general speaking.

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Make sure your AVR display screen TrueHD or DTS-MA logo light up. If you can see that ,then Ok, your system can handle HD Audio . Some 7.1 AVR can take a regular AC3 or DTS 5.1 sound and upmix some of the channels giving a virtual 7.1.

Like I said it's not about the english. I was referring to you saying someone said 'so and so ' when no one really said 'so and so'. Can we drop this issue now and move on .

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 18 2010, 02:32 PM

No problems with my AC Ryan . But maybe I am just using for straightforward playback. Not using network or any of the other features.

Anyway N1 is using same realtek chipset as AC Ryan, if I am not mistaken.

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Added on March 19, 2010, 12:08 amIs it new or used? For sale means how much?

btw, Wasn't there a DVD playback problem with the latest firmware?

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 19 2010, 12:09 AM

A while back, I read in the BD1 thread one user mentioned that DVD.iso stopped functioning after updating to 4.9 firmware. I don't know if this happened only to his set.

I also read that a new firmware is coming out in April. I think I will wait for while and see how that goes before deciding.

BD1 is priced in region of RM1.1K. The advantage over the cheaper media players is it can display the full Menus found in bdmv(m2ts files) or bd.iso. It is also able to bitstream HD audio to your AVR (provided it also support HD Audio).

Like I have told you before, since your budget is low, do you really need HD Audio? If you do, you have to pay RM1.1 K for the BD1 player and on top of that you have to buy an AVR which supports HD Audio which will cost you another RM1.5K. And what about your speaker system ?

Secondly regarding BD Menus, the BD1 has the advantage to activate those menus in m2ts and BD.iso files. But like I mentioned before, the other cheaper media players (like the POHD) can also play those fiiles, but only disadvantage is they can't display the menus. (please don't confuse with DVD menus, which all the players cheap or expensive can display).

Also take note that MKVs don't contain any menus, so even the expensive players like the BD1 won't be able to do anything about it.

Next point is do you want to play RMVB files ? Because the BD1 can't play those files.

update- BD1 I tested at shop
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It also can't play VCD files which the cheaper players (POHD) can.

The player specs said can play .dat (VCD) files, but when I tested at the shop the BD1 can't even recognise and list the files with .dat extension. Maybe this is a bug (Not that I am expecting enyone to play VCD files on this player, except me of course, for my Karaoke collection ). )

Also I tried to browse DVD folders but again it didn't allow that feature (even when system settings was set to browse (General). Another bug?

Then I tried to play 2 of the DVD I copied to my External HDD. One of them played successfully. The other (Jet Li's "Hero" double Layer copy) couldn't play. The menus appeared though, but pressing play or sellecting a chapter kicked back to the Menu after a brief moment.). This movie didn't have any problems whatsoevr playing on the cheaper Players.

The BD playback was of course problem free , whch is what this player's main purpose is for.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 20 2010, 01:52 PM

I have already posted the details before. Maybe you should go back through the previous posts. FYI, The other players which can display Blu-ray menus are even more expensive than the BD1

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 22 2010, 11:51 AM

You really should go back and read what I have posted before. I can't be repeating everything I have said before . Hope you take the trouble to read it

Ok, one last time, this was what I posted just 3 or 4 posts above :-

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Like I have told you before, since your budget is low, do you really need HD Audio? If you do, you have to pay RM1.1 K for the BD1 player and on top of that you have to buy an AVR which supports HD Audio which will cost you another RM1.5K. And what about your speaker system ?

Secondly regarding BD Menus, the BD1 has the advantage to activate those menus in m2ts and BD.iso files. But like I mentioned before, the other cheaper media players (like the POHD) can also play those fiiles, but only disadvantage is they can't display the menus. (please don't confuse with DVD menus, which all the players cheap or expensive can display).

Also take note that MKVs don't contain any menus, so even the expensive players like the BD1 won't be able to do anything about it.

Next point is do you want to play RMVB files ? Because the BD1 can't play those files.

update- BD1 I tested at shop
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It also can't play VCD files which the cheaper players (POHD) can.

The player specs said can play .dat (VCD) files, but when I tested at the shop the BD1 can't even recognise and list the files with .dat extension. Maybe this is a bug (Not that I am expecting enyone to play VCD files on this player, except me of course, for my Karaoke collection ). )

Also I tried to browse DVD folders but again it didn't allow that feature (even when system settings was set to browse (General). Another bug?

Then I tried to play 2 of the DVD I copied to my External HDD. One of them played successfully. The other (Jet Li's "Hero" double Layer copy) couldn't play. The menus appeared though, but pressing play or sellecting a chapter kicked back to the Menu after a brief moment.). This movie didn't have any problems whatsoevr playing on the cheaper Players.

The BD playback was of course problem free , whch is what this player's main purpose is for.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 22 2010, 01:43 PM

Don't worry , play around with your player first. Stick to mostly MKV for now (maybe can try out some m2ts/BD.iso if you like). MKV quality and sound are good enough and the files are quite easily available. On the other hand , M2ts and BD.iso files are not that many yet and not easily available, unless you know how to get them. They are more expensive too if you are buying from someone and each file size average around 40GB+ and take up a lot of your HD space. (MKV file size only average 8-10GB).

Next time got more money then can buy HD Audio AVR and media players like BD1. By that time price already much cheaper.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Mar 24 2010, 11:31 AM

He can't afford mah, so buy cheaper option loh. But knowledge is free, so he ask as much as he wants loh

Everyone has to start from somewhere